From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 09 06:18:59 2015 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jan 2015 11:18:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40809 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9Xak-00051y-LE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 06:18:58 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36844) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9Xai-00051r-T1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 06:18:57 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9Xah-0000Nv-Sq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 06:18:56 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:39481) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9Xah-0000Nl-Q1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 06:18:55 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38557) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9Xag-0001vN-ND for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 06:18:55 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9Xaa-0000ML-Ot for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 06:18:54 -0500 Received: from ishtar.tlinx.org ([173.164.175.65]:38270 helo=Ishtar.hs.tlinx.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9Xaa-0000LF-6i for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 06:18:48 -0500 Received: from [192.168.4.12] (Athenae [192.168.4.12]) by Ishtar.hs.tlinx.org (8.14.7/8.14.4/SuSE Linux 0.8) with ESMTP id t09BIbXL029868 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 03:18:41 -0800 Message-ID: <54AFB90D.70503@tlinx.org> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 03:18:37 -0800 From: Linda Walsh User-Agent: Thunderbird MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Subject: RFE: please fix limited dd output control (want xfer stats, but not blocks). Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) The blocks are a bit uninteresting: 7+0 records in 7+0 records out 6+0 records in .... 11+0 records out 8+0 records in 8+0 records out 2+0 records in ... 2+0 records out 15+0 records in 15+0 records out --- Tells me nothing -- not size of recs, nor time.. nothing interesting. What I'd rather see: 983040 bytes (983 KB) copied, 0.0135631 s, 72.5 MB/s 327680 bytes (328 KB) copied, 0.00869602 s, 37.7 MB/s 393216 bytes (393 KB) copied, 0.00978036 s, 40.2 MB/s 458752 bytes (459 KB) copied, 0.00906681 s, 50.6 MB/s ... 65536 bytes (66 KB) copied, 0.00843794 s, 7.8 MB/s 65536 bytes (66 KB) copied, 0.00845365 s, 7.8 MB/s 983040 bytes (983 KB) copied, 0.0128341 s, 76.6 MB/s 262144 bytes (262 KB) copied, 0.01019 s, 25.7 MB/s 262144 bytes (262 KB) copied, 0.00933135 s, 28.1 MB/s 589824 bytes (590 KB) copied, 0.0124597 s, 47.3 MB/s 1048576 bytes (1.0 MB) copied, 0.0138104 s, 75.9 MB/s --- (Which, BTW, uses program intelligence to use the same output units as the user used for input units, rather than giving them units in an unfamiliar dialect). Side note: ----------- Which, BTW, is consistent using with use of other non-metric units, like hours (you don't hear about kilo-hours or kilo-minutes) because the units are not a multiple of 10 that is appropriate to use with Metric prefixes). I think the litmus test is whether or not the unit being used is some power of 10 (and no arbitrary constant 'k' to convert it to a metric unit. Thus bits, being a single, recognizable flux change on disk correspond on a 1:1 basis (sans compression) to flux changes, and the number of flux changes one can pack into a cm^2 is a pure calculation with base-10 metric units. VS. Speaking of 'Bytes', or Sectors, one is no longer speaking of a direct metric unit, but of a convertible one. It is rare and not official practice to use metric prefixes with non Metric units. As bytes are not a metric unit, using base-10 metric prefixes shouldn't a point of discussion or contentions. Bytes infer base-2 multiple quantities that can only be precisely specified by base-2 prefixes. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 09 07:35:27 2015 Received: (at 19544) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jan 2015 12:35:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40825 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9Yml-0008L2-8V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 07:35:27 -0500 Received: from mail4.vodafone.ie ([213.233.128.170]:24650) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9Ymh-0008Ks-Ry for 19544@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 07:35:24 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmoFAMHJr1RtTDRB/2dsb2JhbABcgwaDYE/GIIJPAoEWQwEBAQEBfYQNAQUjDwFWCw0BCgICBRYLAgIJAwIBAgFFBgEMCAEBiCwBtGCFaY4BAQsggSGOAF+CaIFBBZhRgnGCLYtIIoF/HxSBPD6BNIFAAQEB Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([109.76.52.65]) by mail3.vodafone.ie with ESMTP; 09 Jan 2015 12:35:22 +0000 Message-ID: <54AFCB09.2040005@draigBrady.com> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 12:35:21 +0000 From: =?UTF-8?B?UMOhZHJhaWcgQnJhZHk=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linda Walsh , 19544@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#19544: RFE: please fix limited dd output control (want xfer stats, but not blocks). References: <54AFB90D.70503@tlinx.org> In-Reply-To: <54AFB90D.70503@tlinx.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19544 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On 09/01/15 11:18, Linda Walsh wrote: > > The blocks are a bit uninteresting: > > 7+0 records in > 7+0 records out > 6+0 records in > .... > > 11+0 records out > 8+0 records in > 8+0 records out > 2+0 records in > ... > 2+0 records out > 15+0 records in > 15+0 records out > --- > > Tells me nothing -- not size of recs, nor time.. nothing interesting. > > What I'd rather see: > > 983040 bytes (983 KB) copied, 0.0135631 s, 72.5 MB/s > 327680 bytes (328 KB) copied, 0.00869602 s, 37.7 MB/s > 393216 bytes (393 KB) copied, 0.00978036 s, 40.2 MB/s > 458752 bytes (459 KB) copied, 0.00906681 s, 50.6 MB/s > ... > 65536 bytes (66 KB) copied, 0.00843794 s, 7.8 MB/s > 65536 bytes (66 KB) copied, 0.00845365 s, 7.8 MB/s > 983040 bytes (983 KB) copied, 0.0128341 s, 76.6 MB/s > 262144 bytes (262 KB) copied, 0.01019 s, 25.7 MB/s > 262144 bytes (262 KB) copied, 0.00933135 s, 28.1 MB/s > 589824 bytes (590 KB) copied, 0.0124597 s, 47.3 MB/s > 1048576 bytes (1.0 MB) copied, 0.0138104 s, 75.9 MB/s > --- There is a new status=progress option that will output the above format every second, but on a single updated line. > (Which, BTW, uses program intelligence to use the same output units as > the user used for input units, rather than giving them units in an > unfamiliar dialect). this has been discussed previously. thanks, Pádraig From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 09 14:48:52 2015 Received: (at 19544) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jan 2015 19:48:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41109 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9fYC-0002IS-0i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 14:48:52 -0500 Received: from ishtar.tlinx.org ([173.164.175.65]:55148 helo=Ishtar.hs.tlinx.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9fYA-0002IK-BL for 19544@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jan 2015 14:48:51 -0500 Received: from [192.168.4.12] (Athenae [192.168.4.12]) by Ishtar.hs.tlinx.org (8.14.7/8.14.4/SuSE Linux 0.8) with ESMTP id t09Jmgq2057211; Fri, 9 Jan 2015 11:48:45 -0800 Message-ID: <54B0309B.9090904@tlinx.org> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2015 11:48:43 -0800 From: Linda Walsh User-Agent: Thunderbird MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pádraig Brady Subject: Re: bug#19544: RFE: please fix limited dd output control (want xfer stats, but not blocks). References: <54AFB90D.70503@tlinx.org> <54AFCB09.2040005@draigBrady.com> In-Reply-To: <54AFCB09.2040005@draigBrady.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19544 Cc: 19544@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Pádraig Brady wrote: > There is a new status=progress option that will > output the above format every second, but on > a single updated line. --- excellent. >> (Which, BTW, uses program intelligence to use the same output units as >> the user used for input units, rather than giving them units in an >> unfamiliar dialect). > > this has been discussed previously. --- True, but it hasn't been fixed and reasons against *localization* to the user's stated dialect and preference were never given. How is it that giving the users what they want meets with such resistance? It seems I wasn't the only one who had the opinion I presented, and there was no good technical reason why it shouldn't be done. As you say, this was previously discussed and the result was there was no good technical reason for not doing it, but those who own 'dd' decided not to do it in their version at that time. That doesn't mean you might not have come up with some technical reason not to it since your last "discussion". > thanks, > Pádraig thanks as well, ;-) Linda From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Oct 21 18:06:42 2018 Received: (at 19544) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Oct 2018 22:06:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34835 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gELru-0003jr-Ld for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2018 18:06:42 -0400 Received: from mail-it1-f180.google.com ([209.85.166.180]:33569) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gELrq-0003jR-IX; Sun, 21 Oct 2018 18:06:38 -0400 Received: by mail-it1-f180.google.com with SMTP id h6-v6so8396706ith.0; Sun, 21 Oct 2018 15:06:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UcpOnHM9scKLrqNam5H5zJdQIwFbAaXtscu6gomKt6A=; b=Pn9tV4JeVj+aDAmfQ15M/D2KzSPl7pj6z31vZrvzpbxjtYdnWgiHuxdC/oczHhnB/D ZWYzC7ob8SekbCJzzAdiy07AydJ87ujd+4gc41XYP9d+rPRY/vY9BXPoLZiAf+NJYmFP F6nUy2G8E80Frs51YRwHjZagGScUCZCLyjUBhkKOYLJxO5fQ0jb9SCv8q16PEacX9ctc L4J/r0BuNk7yRx7J0Y8rZ4EaX95xgsjG7UE4SHdTX8SjhCIBIh6pTIS8+rmEGdvt1P7v lN7zXmGGAOVAvD0Ge52wbrPil5SGbheQtVrqR5j63gtUmRThaGmHfWEbif4SUXGKe4Dz 5JLw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UcpOnHM9scKLrqNam5H5zJdQIwFbAaXtscu6gomKt6A=; b=HOiQGmZY6niWgi1kVKKlZwQovf6b77qN1kUR6ihE4X9U0iqddzzEPJZFDlJ3FdTZKE h7Cs4FgFGcYCVSw6/i7VYE/9JYXMKvZ/i1cSRA09adb1l9dAt4pyk+6Ou8+QvV1QzIzz Ow9vtHifkklmSFBOaLE68/E7ptu+cGvzZG3NGzGknfgbnQ4aZ3QNVOWXUsdmXtdq+8vs e1mngE5nBlfAZExxdqIx/lsBxXekEMdT3iJiChR8NI8/9wW9IG9LDIRM0AlDHbVZKw6u MKqF7f6qlbaTZd2Rn6YRQfUNfb2n7UatvEsmdXKEzNJ8OGhI8NmJeK42FDWAIHVMcrtt HsJQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfohZsCfqUolWaONfGuDj5tnAwRtlm9oFDBlp6Q78u9NkKMzQVHC4 sKX2G2Puh/BwKxu4xesyIzXCrssi X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV61dMLzWJQz0hx64eiedpXpxaQHTsiq72oHddnGBP3CkTM596Zx4WQ/AsWnbyPEezeuVbPi7bA== X-Received: by 2002:a02:b56c:: with SMTP id z41-v6mr32213932jaj.133.1540159592351; Sun, 21 Oct 2018 15:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomato.housegordon.com (moose.housegordon.com. [184.68.105.38]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id q185-v6sm4812776itc.30.2018.10.21.15.06.30 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 21 Oct 2018 15:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#19544: RFE: please fix limited dd output control (want xfer stats, but not blocks). To: 19544@debbugs.gnu.org References: <54AFB90D.70503@tlinx.org> <54AFCB09.2040005@draigBrady.com> <54B0309B.9090904@tlinx.org> From: Assaf Gordon Message-ID: <1b489521-d3fd-68e5-cd4f-e69165c604ce@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:06:29 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <54B0309B.9090904@tlinx.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19544 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 19544 fixed close 19544 stop (triaging old bugs) On 09/01/15 04:18 AM, Linda Walsh wrote: > > The blocks are a bit uninteresting: > > 15+0 records out > --- > > Tells me nothing -- not size of recs, nor time.. nothing interesting. > > What I'd rather see: > > 327680 bytes (328 KB) copied, 0.00869602 s, 37.7 MB/s On 09/01/15 12:48 PM, Linda Walsh wrote: > > Pádraig Brady wrote: >> There is a new status=progress option that will >> output the above format every second, but on >> a single updated line. > --- > excellent. > Closing as "fixed". -assaf From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:20:28 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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