From unknown Thu Jun 19 16:24:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#19510: --with-ns won't run on Fedora 21 Resent-From: Paul Eggert Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 21:30:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 19510 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 19510@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: Emacs bug reports and feature requests Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.14204069792496 (code B ref -1); Sun, 04 Jan 2015 21:30:03 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jan 2015 21:29:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36677 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7sjz-0000eC-I0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 16:29:39 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39346) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7sjx-0000e4-CT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 16:29:37 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7sjw-00021I-7x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 16:29:37 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:41257) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7sjw-00021E-4Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 16:29:36 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41067) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7sjv-0003kI-BY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 16:29:36 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7sjs-00020q-1Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 16:29:35 -0500 Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:33610) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7sjr-00020k-Sw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 16:29:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AE6739E801A for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 13:29:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FCn3YKBurf1T for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 13:29:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-173-55-11-52.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [173.55.11.52]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F0A64A6000C for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 13:29:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54A9B0B1.7020308@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 13:29:21 -0800 From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) On Fedora 21 x86-64, if I configure emacs with "./configure --with-ns CFLAGS='-g3 -O2 -DGNUSTEP'" (the -DGNUSTEP is to work around Bug#19507), the resulting executable fails with the following diagnostic: 2015-01-04 13:27:06.763 emacs[28811] Did not find correct version of backend (libgnustep-back-024.bundle), falling back to std (libgnustep-back.bundle). 2015-01-04 13:27:06.764 emacs[28811] NSApplication.m:304 Assertion failed in initialize_gnustep_backend. Unable to find backend back ./emacs: Uncaught exception NSInternalInconsistencyException, reason: NSApplication.m:304 Assertion failed in initialize_gnustep_backend. Unable to find backend back Sorry, I don't know what those diagnostics mean. I'm using just the standard Fedora 21 installation as far as I know. From unknown Thu Jun 19 16:24:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#19510: --with-ns won't run on Fedora 21 Resent-From: "Jan D." Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 06:35:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19510 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Paul Eggert , 19510@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 19510-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19510.142043969627128 (code B ref 19510); Mon, 05 Jan 2015 06:35:01 +0000 Received: (at 19510) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jan 2015 06:34:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36897 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y81Fg-00073T-D9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 01:34:56 -0500 Received: from mailfe06.swip.net ([212.247.154.161]:58776 helo=swip.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y81Fe-00073H-0C for 19510@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 01:34:54 -0500 X-T2-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40 Received: from hosdjarv.se (account mj138573@tele2.se [46.59.42.57] verified) by mailfe06.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPA id 559796540; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 07:34:51 +0100 Message-ID: <54AA308B.4020205@swipnet.se> Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 07:34:51 +0100 From: "Jan D." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <54A9B0B1.7020308@cs.ucla.edu> In-Reply-To: <54A9B0B1.7020308@cs.ucla.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Paul Eggert skrev den 2015-01-04 22:29: > On Fedora 21 x86-64, if I configure emacs with "./configure --with-ns > CFLAGS='-g3 -O2 -DGNUSTEP'" (the -DGNUSTEP is to work around Bug#19507), > the resulting executable fails with the following diagnostic: > > 2015-01-04 13:27:06.763 emacs[28811] Did not find correct version of > backend (libgnustep-back-024.bundle), falling back to std > (libgnustep-back.bundle). > 2015-01-04 13:27:06.764 emacs[28811] NSApplication.m:304 Assertion > failed in initialize_gnustep_backend. Unable to find backend back > ./emacs: Uncaught exception NSInternalInconsistencyException, reason: > NSApplication.m:304 Assertion failed in initialize_gnustep_backend. > Unable to find backend back > > Sorry, I don't know what those diagnostics mean. I'm using just the > standard Fedora 21 installation as far as I know. > > It looks like you have installed the wrong backend. Jan D. From unknown Thu Jun 19 16:24:23 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.503 (Entity 5.503) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Paul Eggert Subject: bug#19510: closed (Re: bug#19510: --with-ns won't run on Fedora 21) Message-ID: References: <54AC9C0C.3050004@cs.ucla.edu> <54A9B0B1.7020308@cs.ucla.edu> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 19510 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 19510@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 02:39:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1420598342-4623-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1420598342-4623-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #19510: --with-ns won't run on Fedora 21 which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 19510@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 19510: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D19510 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1420598342-4623-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 19510-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jan 2015 02:38:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39055 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8gVk-0001Ba-W6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 21:38:17 -0500 Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:51003) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8gVi-0001BR-IJ for 19510-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2015 21:38:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3F0A60099; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 18:38:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dSzz9RJa+Qkx; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 18:38:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-173-55-11-52.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [173.55.11.52]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C405AA60098; Tue, 6 Jan 2015 18:38:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54AC9C0C.3050004@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2015 18:38:04 -0800 From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jan D." , 19510-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#19510: --with-ns won't run on Fedora 21 References: <54A9B0B1.7020308@cs.ucla.edu> <54AA308B.4020205@swipnet.se> In-Reply-To: <54AA308B.4020205@swipnet.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19510-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Jan D. wrote: > It looks like you have installed the wrong backend. I imagine it was something more complicated than that, as I hadn't installed anything other than what Fedora 21 packages. I had already installed the gnustep-gui-devel package but apparently that does not suffice to run GnuStep apps. After installing gnustep-examples the problem went away. The examples themselves aren't needed, but they have prerequisites that apparently supply the missing runtime components. The whole thing is very mysterious, I must say; it would be nice if the diagnostics were clearer, but I'm so lost that I don't know what they should say. Anyway, thank for checking, and I am closing the bug. Bug#19507 still remains (it wasn't affected by installing gnustep-examples). ------------=_1420598342-4623-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jan 2015 21:29:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36677 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7sjz-0000eC-I0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 16:29:39 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39346) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7sjx-0000e4-CT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 16:29:37 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7sjw-00021I-7x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 16:29:37 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:41257) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7sjw-00021E-4Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 16:29:36 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41067) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7sjv-0003kI-BY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 16:29:36 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7sjs-00020q-1Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 16:29:35 -0500 Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:33610) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y7sjr-00020k-Sw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jan 2015 16:29:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AE6739E801A for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 13:29:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FCn3YKBurf1T for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 13:29:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (pool-173-55-11-52.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [173.55.11.52]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F0A64A6000C for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2015 13:29:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54A9B0B1.7020308@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 13:29:21 -0800 From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Emacs bug reports and feature requests Subject: --with-ns won't run on Fedora 21 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) On Fedora 21 x86-64, if I configure emacs with "./configure --with-ns CFLAGS='-g3 -O2 -DGNUSTEP'" (the -DGNUSTEP is to work around Bug#19507), the resulting executable fails with the following diagnostic: 2015-01-04 13:27:06.763 emacs[28811] Did not find correct version of backend (libgnustep-back-024.bundle), falling back to std (libgnustep-back.bundle). 2015-01-04 13:27:06.764 emacs[28811] NSApplication.m:304 Assertion failed in initialize_gnustep_backend. Unable to find backend back ./emacs: Uncaught exception NSInternalInconsistencyException, reason: NSApplication.m:304 Assertion failed in initialize_gnustep_backend. Unable to find backend back Sorry, I don't know what those diagnostics mean. I'm using just the standard Fedora 21 installation as far as I know. ------------=_1420598342-4623-1-- From unknown Thu Jun 19 16:24:23 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#19510: --with-ns won't run on Fedora 21 Resent-From: "Jan D." Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2015 06:00:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19510 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Paul Eggert Cc: 19510-done@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 19510-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D19510.142061039523519 (code D ref 19510); Wed, 07 Jan 2015 06:00:03 +0000 Received: (at 19510-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jan 2015 05:59:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39106 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8jes-00067H-Sq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2015 00:59:55 -0500 Received: from mailfe05.swip.net ([212.247.154.129]:37733 helo=swip.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y8jep-000675-9u for 19510-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2015 00:59:52 -0500 X-T2-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 Received: from hosdjarv.se (account mj138573@tele2.se [46.59.42.57] verified) by mailfe05.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPA id 558225188; Wed, 07 Jan 2015 06:59:47 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.1 \(1993\)) From: "Jan D." In-Reply-To: <54AC9C0C.3050004@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 06:59:46 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <16710D8A-7436-4667-AD6E-AE6BA294652F@swipnet.se> References: <54A9B0B1.7020308@cs.ucla.edu> <54AA308B.4020205@swipnet.se> <54AC9C0C.3050004@cs.ucla.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1993) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) > 7 jan 2015 kl. 03:38 skrev Paul Eggert : >=20 > Jan D. wrote: >> It looks like you have installed the wrong backend. >=20 > I imagine it was something more complicated than that, as I hadn't = installed anything other than what Fedora 21 packages. I had already = installed the gnustep-gui-devel package but apparently that does not = suffice to run GnuStep apps. After installing gnustep-examples the = problem went away. The examples themselves aren't needed, but they have = prerequisites that apparently supply the missing runtime components. = The whole thing is very mysterious, I must say; it would be nice if the = diagnostics were clearer, but I'm so lost that I don't know what they = should say. I don't have Fedora 21 installed, but on 20 you had to install = gnustep-back separately. At one time there was two backends you could choose from, but 20 only = seems to have one. >=20 > Anyway, thank for checking, and I am closing the bug. Bug#19507 still = remains (it wasn't affected by installing gnustep-examples). Right. Jan D.