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24.4; (desktop-save-mode 1) save frame as page and desktop sticky (_NET_WM_STATE_STICKY) when close Emacs shaded, (setq desktop-restore-frames nil) fix issue.

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From: Oleksandr Gavenko <gavenkoa <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.4; (desktop-save-mode 1) save frame as page and desktop sticky
 (_NET_WM_STATE_STICKY) when close Emacs shaded, (setq desktop-restore-frames
 nil) fix issue.
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 23:46:34 +0200

I upgrade Emacs on Debian to 24.4.1.

New changes for desktop-save-mode:

  *** Desktop now saves and restores the frame/window configuration.
  To disable this, set `desktop-restore-frames' to nil.

I don't set desktop-restore-frames previously.

When I use Fvwm `WindowShade` command on Emacs window it hided, only titlebar
shown.

If I close Emacs in shaded state and run again it gain sticky attribute (so it
shown on every page/desktop, follow my page/desktop switching).

So with "emacs -q" and only "(desktop-save-mode 1)" this behavior reproduced.

(setq desktop-restore-frames nil) fix issue.

Here ~/.emacs.desktop which hold data that lead to sticky attribute:

(setq desktop-saved-frameset [frameset 1 (21652 39439 387790 976000) (desktop . "206") "user <at> desktop.home.int" nil nil ((((font-backend xft x) (font . "-Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-14-*-*-*-c-70-iso10646-1") (font-parameter . "-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-c-*-iso10646-1") (border-width . 0) (internal-border-width . 0) (right-divider-width . 0) (bottom-divider-width . 0) (vertical-scroll-bars . right) (foreground-color . "black") (background-color . "white") (mouse-color . "black") (border-color . "black") (screen-gamma) (line-spacing) (left-fringe . 10) (right-fringe . 11) (scroll-bar-foreground) (scroll-bar-background . "grey75") (menu-bar-lines . 1) (tool-bar-lines . 1) (title) (wait-for-wm . t) (fullscreen) (tool-bar-position . top) (icon-type . t) (auto-raise) (auto-lower) (cursor-type . box) (scroll-bar-width . 16) (alpha) (horizontal-scroll-bars . t) (display-type . color) (background-mode . light) (cursor-color . "black") (environment) (frameset--id . "0B83-6D5C-17FD-9D99") (frameset--mini t . t) (modeline . t) (minibuffer . t) (unsplittable) (icon-name) (visibility . t) (display . ":0") (explicit-name) (sticky) (height . 35) (width . 80) (left . 0) (top . 0)) ((min-height . 4) (min-width . 10) (min-height-ignore . 2) (min-width-ignore . 8) (min-height-safe . 1) (min-width-safe . 2) (min-pixel-height . 56) (min-pixel-width . 70) (min-pixel-height-ignore . 28) (min-pixel-width-ignore . 56) (min-pixel-height-safe . 14) (min-pixel-width-safe . 14)) leaf (pixel-width . 597) (pixel-height . 476) (total-width . 85) (total-height . 34) (normal-height . 1.0) (normal-width . 1.0) (buffer ".emacs-my" (selected . t) (hscroll . 0) (fringes 10 11 nil) (margins nil) (scroll-bars 16 3 t nil) (vscroll . 0) (dedicated) (point . 24) (start . 1))))])

Here X window properties that is on newly running sticky Emacs:

  $ xprop -id 0x200001b

  _NET_WM_STATE(ATOM) = _NET_WM_STATE_STICKY
  _MOTIF_DRAG_RECEIVER_INFO(_MOTIF_DRAG_RECEIVER_INFO) = 0x6c, 0x0, 0x5, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0
  XdndAware(ATOM) = BITMAP
  WM_STATE(WM_STATE):
                  window state: Normal
                  icon window: 0x0
  _WIN_AREA(CARDINAL) = 0, 0
  _WIN_WORKSPACE(CARDINAL) = 1
  _WIN_LAYER(CARDINAL) = 4
  _WIN_STATE(CARDINAL) = 1
  _NET_FRAME_EXTENTS(CARDINAL) = 6, 6, 22, 6
  _KDE_NET_WM_FRAME_STRUT(CARDINAL) = 6, 6, 22, 6
  _NET_WM_ALLOWED_ACTIONS(ATOM) = _NET_WM_ACTION_CHANGE_DESKTOP, _NET_WM_ACTION_CLOSE, _NET_WM_ACTION_FULLSCREEN, _NET_WM_ACTION_MAXIMIZE_HORZ, _NET_WM_ACTION_MAXIMIZE_VERT, _NET_WM_ACTION_MOVE, _NET_WM_ACTION_RESIZE, _NET_WM_ACTION_SHADE, _NET_WM_ACTION_STICK
  _NET_WM_DESKTOP(CARDINAL) = 4294967295
  _NET_WM_ICON_VISIBLE_NAME(UTF8_STRING) = "emacs <at> desktop.home.int"
  _NET_WM_VISIBLE_NAME(UTF8_STRING) = "emacs <at> desktop.home.int «Emacs:emacs»"
  WM_HINTS(WM_HINTS):
                  Client accepts input or input focus: True
                  Initial state is Normal State.
                  bitmap id # to use for icon: 0x2000293
                  bitmap id # of mask for icon: 0x2000299
                  window id # of group leader: 0x2000001
  _NET_WM_OPAQUE_REGION(CARDINAL) = 7, 0, 1892, 7, 0, 7, 1906, 1153
  _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE(ATOM) = _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_NORMAL
  _NET_WM_SYNC_REQUEST_COUNTER(CARDINAL) = 33554460, 33554461
  _NET_WM_USER_TIME_WINDOW(WINDOW): window id # 0x200001b
  WM_CLIENT_LEADER(WINDOW): window id # 0x2000001
  _NET_WM_PID(CARDINAL) = 13282
  WM_LOCALE_NAME(STRING) = "en_US.UTF-8"
  WM_CLIENT_MACHINE(STRING) = "desktop"
  WM_NORMAL_HINTS(WM_SIZE_HINTS):
                  program specified minimum size: 51 by 96
                  program specified resize increment: 7 by 14
                  program specified base size: 44 by 82
                  window gravity: NorthWest
  WM_PROTOCOLS(ATOM): protocols  WM_DELETE_WINDOW, WM_TAKE_FOCUS, _NET_WM_PING, _NET_WM_SYNC_REQUEST
  WM_CLASS(STRING) = "emacs", "Emacs"
  WM_ICON_NAME(STRING) = "emacs <at> desktop.home.int"
  _NET_WM_ICON_NAME(UTF8_STRING) = "emacs <at> desktop.home.int"
  WM_NAME(STRING) = "emacs <at> desktop.home.int"
  _NET_WM_NAME(UTF8_STRING) = "emacs <at> desktop.home.int"


In GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.3)
 of 2014-10-25 on trouble, modified by Debian
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11601000
System Description:	Debian GNU/Linux testing (jessie)

Configured using:
 `configure --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --sharedstatedir=/var/lib
 --libexecdir=/usr/lib --localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info
 --mandir=/usr/share/man --with-pop=yes
 --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs24:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/24.4/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/24.4/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp
 --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --sharedstatedir=/var/lib
 --libexecdir=/usr/lib --localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info
 --mandir=/usr/share/man --with-pop=yes
 --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs24:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/24.4/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/24.4/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp
 --with-x=yes --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-toolkit-scroll-bars 'CFLAGS=-g -O2
 -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=format-security -Wall'
 CPPFLAGS=-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 LDFLAGS=-Wl,-z,relro'

-- 
Best regards!

Message #8 received at 19413 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Oleksandr Gavenko <gavenkoa <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 19413 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#19413: 24.4;
 (desktop-save-mode 1) save frame as page and desktop
 sticky	(_NET_WM_STATE_STICKY) when close Emacs shaded,
 (setq	desktop-restore-frames nil) fix issue.
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 23:52:40 +0200

> From: Oleksandr Gavenko <gavenkoa <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 23:46:34 +0200
> 
> I upgrade Emacs on Debian to 24.4.1.
> 
> New changes for desktop-save-mode:
> 
>   *** Desktop now saves and restores the frame/window configuration.
>   To disable this, set `desktop-restore-frames' to nil.
> 
> I don't set desktop-restore-frames previously.
> 
> When I use Fvwm `WindowShade` command on Emacs window it hided, only titlebar
> shown.
> 
> If I close Emacs in shaded state and run again it gain sticky attribute (so it
> shown on every page/desktop, follow my page/desktop switching).
> 
> So with "emacs -q" and only "(desktop-save-mode 1)" this behavior reproduced.

AFAIR, Debian has a lot of stuff hiding in site-init files, and -q
doesn't disable that.  Does the same problem happen with -Q or
--no-site-file?

Message #11 received at 19413 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Oleksandr Gavenko <gavenkoa <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 19413 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#19413: 24.4;
 (desktop-save-mode 1) save frame as page and desktop
 sticky	(_NET_WM_STATE_STICKY) when close Emacs shaded,
 (setq	desktop-restore-frames nil) fix issue.
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 00:35:12 +0200

On 2014-12-19, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

>> When I use Fvwm `WindowShade` command on Emacs window it hided, only titlebar
>> shown.
>> 
>> If I close Emacs in shaded state and run again it gain sticky attribute (so it
>> shown on every page/desktop, follow my page/desktop switching).
>> 
>> So with "emacs -q" and only "(desktop-save-mode 1)" this behavior reproduced.
>
> AFAIR, Debian has a lot of stuff hiding in site-init files, and -q
> doesn't disable that.  Does the same problem happen with -Q or
> --no-site-file?

Ok. I reproduce with --no-site-file and clean ~/.emacs with only:

  (desktop-save-mode 1)

But one correction - I lay about "-q". Evaluation of (desktop-save-mode 1) in
non-startup stage works different. For example it doesn't read
~/.emacs.desktop file (or just doesn't rearrange frame geometry) and when I
leave Emacs - it prompt for place for .emacs.desktop. With --no-site-file and
above ~/.emacs I am not asked for savefile and bug reproduced.

Here X window properties for shaded Emacs:

  $ xprop -id 0x200001a

  _NET_WM_STATE(ATOM) = _NET_WM_STATE_SHADED
  _MOTIF_DRAG_RECEIVER_INFO(_MOTIF_DRAG_RECEIVER_INFO) = 0x6c, 0x0, 0x5, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0
  XdndAware(ATOM) = BITMAP
  WM_STATE(WM_STATE):
                  window state: Normal
                  icon window: 0x0
  _WIN_AREA(CARDINAL) = 0, 0
  _WIN_WORKSPACE(CARDINAL) = 2
  _WIN_LAYER(CARDINAL) = 4
  _WIN_STATE(CARDINAL) = 32
  _NET_FRAME_EXTENTS(CARDINAL) = 6, 6, 22, 6
  _KDE_NET_WM_FRAME_STRUT(CARDINAL) = 6, 6, 22, 6
  _NET_WM_ALLOWED_ACTIONS(ATOM) = _NET_WM_ACTION_CHANGE_DESKTOP, _NET_WM_ACTION_CLOSE, _NET_WM_ACTION_FULLSCREEN, _NET_WM_ACTION_MAXIMIZE_HORZ, _NET_WM_ACTION_MAXIMIZE_VERT, _NET_WM_ACTION_MOVE, _NET_WM_ACTION_RESIZE, _NET_WM_ACTION_SHADE, _NET_WM_ACTION_STICK
  _NET_WM_DESKTOP(CARDINAL) = 2
  _NET_WM_ICON_VISIBLE_NAME(UTF8_STRING) = "EMACS desktop.home.int: *unsent wide reply to Eli Zaretskii*"
  _NET_WM_VISIBLE_NAME(UTF8_STRING) = "EMACS desktop.home.int: *unsent wide reply to Eli Zaretskii* «Emacs:emacs»"
  WM_HINTS(WM_HINTS):
                  Client accepts input or input focus: True
                  Initial state is Normal State.
                  bitmap id # to use for icon: 0x200097e
                  bitmap id # of mask for icon: 0x2000984
                  window id # of group leader: 0x2000001
  _NET_WM_ICON(CARDINAL) =        Icon (48 x 48):
  _NET_WM_OPAQUE_REGION(CARDINAL) = 7, 0, 1894, 7, 0, 7, 1908, 1165
  _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE(ATOM) = _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_NORMAL
  _NET_WM_SYNC_REQUEST_COUNTER(CARDINAL) = 33554460, 33554461
  _NET_WM_USER_TIME_WINDOW(WINDOW): window id # 0x200001b
  WM_CLIENT_LEADER(WINDOW): window id # 0x2000001
  _NET_WM_PID(CARDINAL) = 19038
  WM_LOCALE_NAME(STRING) = "en_US.UTF-8"
  WM_CLIENT_MACHINE(STRING) = "desktop"
  WM_NORMAL_HINTS(WM_SIZE_HINTS):
                  program specified minimum size: 0 by 0
                  program specified base size: 0 by 0
                  window gravity: NorthWest
  WM_PROTOCOLS(ATOM): protocols  WM_DELETE_WINDOW, WM_TAKE_FOCUS, _NET_WM_PING, _NET_WM_SYNC_REQUEST
  WM_CLASS(STRING) = "emacs", "Emacs"
  WM_ICON_NAME(STRING) = "EMACS desktop.home.int: *unsent wide reply to Eli Zaretskii*"
  _NET_WM_ICON_NAME(UTF8_STRING) = "EMACS desktop.home.int: *unsent wide reply to Eli Zaretskii*"
  WM_NAME(STRING) = "EMACS desktop.home.int: *unsent wide reply to Eli Zaretskii*"
  _NET_WM_NAME(UTF8_STRING) = "EMACS desktop.home.int: *unsent wide reply to Eli Zaretskii*"

I see difference in value:

  _NET_WM_STATE(ATOM) = _NET_WM_STATE_SHADED

vs:

  _NET_WM_STATE(ATOM) = _NET_WM_STATE_STICKY

Is desktop-save code incorrectly recognise _NET_WM_STATE_SHADED ?

-- 
Best regards!

Message #14 received at 19413 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: Oleksandr Gavenko <gavenkoa <at> gmail.com>, 19413 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#19413: 24.4; (desktop-save-mode 1) save frame as page and
 desktop sticky (_NET_WM_STATE_STICKY) when close Emacs shaded,
 (setq desktop-restore-frames nil) fix issue.
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 11:10:46 +0100

> (setq desktop-saved-frameset [frameset 1 (21652 39439 387790 976000) (desktop . "206") "user <at> desktop.home.int" nil nil (((... (sticky) ... )))])

`sticky' is nil here.  When in the restored frame you evaluate

(frame-parameter nil 'sticky)

what do you get?

martin

Message #17 received at 19413 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Oleksandr Gavenko <gavenkoa <at> gmail.com>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
Cc: 19413 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#19413: 24.4;
 (desktop-save-mode 1) save frame as page and desktop sticky
 (_NET_WM_STATE_STICKY) when close Emacs shaded, (setq desktop-restore-frames
 nil) fix issue.
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 14:33:48 +0200

On 2014-12-20, martin rudalics wrote:

>> (setq desktop-saved-frameset [frameset 1 (21652 39439 387790 976000) (desktop . "206") "user <at> desktop.home.int" nil nil (((... (sticky) ... )))])
>
> `sticky' is nil here.  When in the restored frame you evaluate
>
> (frame-parameter nil 'sticky)
>
> what do you get?
>

When frame sticky (Fvwm decorate it especially) I get "t". For non-sticky I
get "nil".

I check what file used as desktop save file (two last line from output when I
C-x C-c from Emacs):

  $ strace -f -eopen emacs --no-site-file  2>&1 | grep -v 'ENOENT\|python'
  ...
  [pid  9179] open("/home/user/.emacs.desktop", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC|O_CLOEXEC, 0666) = 14
  [pid  9179] open("/home/user/.emacs.d/auto-save-list/.saves-9179-desktop.home.int~", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC|O_CLOEXEC, 0666) = 14

With only .emacs:

  (desktop-save-mode 1)

and "emacs --no-site-file" and ~/.emacs.desktop:

(setq desktop-saved-frameset [frameset 1 (21653 23984 363080 668000) (desktop . "206") "user <at> desktop.home.int" nil nil ((((font-backend xft x) (font . "-Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-14-*-*-*-c-70-iso10646-1") (font-parameter . "-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-c-*-iso10646-1") (border-width . 0) (internal-border-width . 0) (right-divider-width . 0) (bottom-divider-width . 0) (vertical-scroll-bars . right) (foreground-color . "black") (background-color . "white") (mouse-color . "black") (border-color . "black") (screen-gamma) (line-spacing) (left-fringe . 10) (right-fringe . 11) (scroll-bar-foreground) (scroll-bar-background . "grey75") (menu-bar-lines . 1) (tool-bar-lines . 1) (title) (wait-for-wm . t) (fullscreen) (tool-bar-position . top) (icon-type . t) (auto-raise) (auto-lower) (cursor-type . box) (scroll-bar-width . 16) (alpha) (horizontal-scroll-bars . t) (display-type . color) (background-mode . light) (cursor-color . "black") (environment) (frameset--id . "A948-AB72-D73D-287C") (frameset--mini t . t) (modeline . t) (minibuffer . t) (unsplittable) (icon-name) (visibility . t) (display . ":0") (explicit-name) (height . 35) (width . 80) (left . 1240) (top . 28)) ((min-height . 8) (min-width . 10) (min-height-ignore . 4) (min-width-ignore . 8) (min-height-safe . 2) (min-width-safe . 2) (min-pixel-height . 112) (min-pixel-width . 70) (min-pixel-height-ignore . 56) (min-pixel-width-ignore . 56) (min-pixel-height-safe . 28) (min-pixel-width-safe . 14)) vc (pixel-width . 597) (pixel-height . 476) (total-width . 85) (total-height . 34) (normal-height . 1.0) (normal-width . 1.0) (combination-limit) (leaf (pixel-width . 597) (pixel-height . 238) (total-width . 85) (total-height . 17) (normal-height . 0.5) (normal-width . 1.0) (buffer "mc.ext" (selected) (hscroll . 0) (fringes 10 11 nil) (margins nil) (scroll-bars 16 3 t nil) (vscroll . 0) (dedicated) (point . 5457) (start . 5293))) (leaf (last . t) (pixel-width . 597) (pixel-height . 238) (total-width . 85) (total-height . 17) (normal-height . 0.5) (normal-width . 1.0) (buffer "*Messages*" (selected . t) (hscroll . 0) (fringes 10 11 nil) (margins nil) (scroll-bars 16 3 t nil) (vscroll . 0) (dedicated) (point . 284) (start . 1)))))])

I always get normally started Emacs unless I shaded Emacs window. When I close
shaded Emacs ~/.emacs.desktop changed to:

(setq desktop-saved-frameset [frameset 1 (21653 24375 351017 568000) (desktop . "206") "user <at> desktop.home.int" nil nil ((((font-backend xft x) (font . "-Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-14-*-*-*-c-70-iso10646-1") (font-parameter . "-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-c-*-iso10646-1") (border-width . 0) (internal-border-width . 0) (right-divider-width . 0) (bottom-divider-width . 0) (vertical-scroll-bars . right) (foreground-color . "black") (background-color . "white") (mouse-color . "black") (border-color . "black") (screen-gamma) (line-spacing) (left-fringe . 10) (right-fringe . 11) (scroll-bar-foreground) (scroll-bar-background . "grey75") (menu-bar-lines . 1) (tool-bar-lines . 1) (title) (wait-for-wm . t) (fullscreen) (tool-bar-position . top) (icon-type . t) (auto-raise) (auto-lower) (cursor-type . box) (scroll-bar-width . 16) (alpha) (horizontal-scroll-bars . t) (display-type . color) (background-mode . light) (cursor-color . "black") (environment) (frameset--id . "A948-AB72-D73D-287C") (frameset--mini t . t) (modeline . t) (minibuffer . t) (unsplittable) (icon-name) (visibility . t) (display . ":0") (explicit-name) (sticky) (height . 35) (width . 80) (left . 1240) (top . 28)) ((min-height . 8) (min-width . 10) (min-height-ignore . 4) (min-width-ignore . 8) (min-height-safe . 2) (min-width-safe . 2) (min-pixel-height . 112) (min-pixel-width . 70) (min-pixel-height-ignore . 56) (min-pixel-width-ignore . 56) (min-pixel-height-safe . 28) (min-pixel-width-safe . 14)) vc (pixel-width . 597) (pixel-height . 476) (total-width . 85) (total-height . 34) (normal-height . 1.0) (normal-width . 1.0) (combination-limit) (leaf (pixel-width . 597) (pixel-height . 238) (total-width . 85) (total-height . 17) (normal-height . 0.5) (normal-width . 1.0) (buffer "mc.ext" (selected) (hscroll . 0) (fringes 10 11 nil) (margins nil) (scroll-bars 16 3 t nil) (vscroll . 0) (dedicated) (point . 5457) (start . 5293))) (leaf (last . t) (pixel-width . 597) (pixel-height . 238) (total-width . 85) (total-height . 17) (normal-height . 0.5) (normal-width . 1.0) (buffer "*Messages*" (selected . t) (hscroll . 0) (fringes 10 11 nil) (margins nil) (scroll-bars 16 3 t nil) (vscroll . 0) (dedicated) (point . 284) (start . 1)))))])

You can see difference in "(sticky)" above. New "emacs --no-site-file" opened
as sticky and when I close Emacs ~/.emacs.desktop changed to:

(setq desktop-saved-frameset [frameset 1 (21653 24557 165658 111000) (desktop . "206") "user <at> desktop.home.int" nil nil ((((font-backend xft x) (font . "-Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-14-*-*-*-c-70-iso10646-1") (font-parameter . "-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-c-*-iso10646-1") (border-width . 0) (internal-border-width . 0) (right-divider-width . 0) (bottom-divider-width . 0) (vertical-scroll-bars . right) (foreground-color . "black") (background-color . "white") (mouse-color . "black") (border-color . "black") (screen-gamma) (line-spacing) (left-fringe . 10) (right-fringe . 11) (scroll-bar-foreground) (scroll-bar-background . "grey75") (menu-bar-lines . 1) (tool-bar-lines . 1) (title) (wait-for-wm . t) (fullscreen) (tool-bar-position . top) (icon-type . t) (auto-raise) (auto-lower) (cursor-type . box) (scroll-bar-width . 16) (alpha) (horizontal-scroll-bars . t) (display-type . color) (background-mode . light) (cursor-color . "black") (environment) (frameset--id . "A948-AB72-D73D-287C") (frameset--mini t . t) (modeline . t) (minibuffer . t) (unsplittable) (icon-name) (visibility . t) (display . ":0") (explicit-name) (sticky . t) (height . 35) (width . 80) (left . 1240) (top . 28)) ((min-height . 8) (min-width . 10) (min-height-ignore . 4) (min-width-ignore . 8) (min-height-safe . 2) (min-width-safe . 2) (min-pixel-height . 112) (min-pixel-width . 70) (min-pixel-height-ignore . 56) (min-pixel-width-ignore . 56) (min-pixel-height-safe . 28) (min-pixel-width-safe . 14)) vc (pixel-width . 597) (pixel-height . 476) (total-width . 85) (total-height . 34) (normal-height . 1.0) (normal-width . 1.0) (combination-limit) (leaf (pixel-width . 597) (pixel-height . 238) (total-width . 85) (total-height . 17) (normal-height . 0.5) (normal-width . 1.0) (buffer "mc.ext" (selected) (hscroll . 0) (fringes 10 11 nil) (margins nil) (scroll-bars 16 3 t nil) (vscroll . 0) (dedicated) (point . 5457) (start . 5293))) (leaf (last . t) (pixel-width . 597) (pixel-height . 238) (total-width . 85) (total-height . 17) (normal-height . 0.5) (normal-width . 1.0) (buffer "*Messages*" (selected . t) (hscroll . 0) (fringes 10 11 nil) (margins nil) (scroll-bars 16 3 t nil) (vscroll . 0) (dedicated) (point . 284) (start . 1)))))])

You can see difference in "(sticky . t)" above. Next rerun leave
~/.emacs.desktop without changes.

As shown strace Emacs load ~/.emacs.d/elpa/* so I rename this dir.

Evaluation of "(desktop-save-mode 1)" in "emacs -Q" (not from ~/.emacs) prompt
me on exit:

  Current desktop was not loaded from a file.  Overwrite this desktop file? (yes or no)

If leave Emacs with shaded window (pressing X button in titlebar) I get GTK
file selection dialogs about .emacs.desktop file. After leaving "(sticky)"
seen in ~/.emacs.desktop.

I check value of:

  after-init-hook is a variable defined in `startup.el'.
  Its value is (#[0 "..."
       [command-line-args desktop-save-mode desktop-restore-frames initial-window-system inhibit-startup-screen "--no-desktop" delete 0 daemonp desktop-read t]
       4 "\n\n(fn)"]
   x-wm-set-size-hint)


and if load "emacs -Q" and then evaluate (desktop-read) with "(sticky)" in
~/.emacs.desktop I get sticky Emacs window.

So there are two problems:

 1) Emacs instead saving shaded window attribute add "(sticky)" to ~/.emacs.desktop

 2) (desktop-read) wrongly apply (sticky), and (sticky . t) and (sticky . nil)
 - as always sticky.

I check /src/xterm.h:

  /* Atoms dealing with EWMH (i.e. _NET_...) */
  Atom Xatom_net_wm_state, Xatom_net_wm_state_fullscreen,
    Xatom_net_wm_state_maximized_horz, Xatom_net_wm_state_maximized_vert,
    Xatom_net_wm_state_sticky, Xatom_net_wm_state_hidden,
    Xatom_net_frame_extents,
    Xatom_net_current_desktop, Xatom_net_workarea;

There are no _NET_WM_STATE_SHADED that defined in:

  http://standards.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/wm-spec-1.3.html#idm140130317598336
    _NET_WM_STATE

which say:

  Possible atoms are:

  _NET_WM_STATE_MODAL, ATOM
  _NET_WM_STATE_STICKY, ATOM
  _NET_WM_STATE_MAXIMIZED_VERT, ATOM
  _NET_WM_STATE_MAXIMIZED_HORZ, ATOM
  _NET_WM_STATE_SHADED, ATOM
  _NET_WM_STATE_SKIP_TASKBAR, ATOM
  _NET_WM_STATE_SKIP_PAGER, ATOM
  _NET_WM_STATE_HIDDEN, ATOM
  _NET_WM_STATE_FULLSCREEN, ATOM
  _NET_WM_STATE_ABOVE, ATOM
  _NET_WM_STATE_BELOW, ATOM
  _NET_WM_STATE_DEMANDS_ATTENTION, ATOM

-- 
Best regards!

Message #20 received at 19413 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: Oleksandr Gavenko <gavenkoa <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 19413 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#19413: 24.4; (desktop-save-mode 1) save frame as page and
 desktop sticky (_NET_WM_STATE_STICKY) when close Emacs shaded,
 (setq desktop-restore-frames nil) fix issue.
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 15:50:14 +0100

> When frame sticky (Fvwm decorate it especially) I get "t". For non-sticky I
> get "nil".

So the value of sticky corresponds to what you see on screen.  Correct?

> I always get normally started Emacs unless I shaded Emacs window. When I close
> shaded Emacs ~/.emacs.desktop changed to:
>
> (setq desktop-saved-frameset [frameset 1 (21653 24375 351017 568000) (desktop . "206") "user <at> desktop.home.int" nil nil ((((font-backend xft x) (font . "-Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-14-*-*-*-c-70-iso10646-1") (font-parameter . "-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-c-*-iso10646-1") (border-width . 0) (internal-border-width . 0) (right-divider-width . 0) (bottom-divider-width . 0) (vertical-scroll-bars . right) (foreground-color . "black") (background-color . "white") (mouse-color . "black") (border-color . "black") (screen-gamma) (line-spacing) (left-fringe . 10) (right-fringe . 11) (scroll-bar-foreground) (scroll-bar-background . "grey75") (menu-bar-lines . 1) (tool-bar-lines . 1) (title) (wait-for-wm . t) (fullscreen) (tool-bar-position . top) (icon-type . t) (auto-raise) (auto-lower) (cursor-type . box) (scroll-bar-width . 16) (alpha) (horizontal-scroll-bars . t) (display-type . color) (background-mode . light) (cursor-color . "black") (environment) (frameset--id . "A948
-AB72-D73D-287C") (frameset--mini t . t) (modeline . t) (minibuffer . t) (unsplittable) (icon-name) (visibility . t) (display . ":0") (explicit-name) (sticky) (height . 35) (width . 80) (left . 1240) (top . 28)) ((min-height . 8) (min-width . 10) (min-height-ignore . 4) (min-width-ignore . 8) (min-height-safe . 2) (min-width-safe . 2) (min-pixel-height . 112) (min-pixel-width . 70) (min-pixel-height-ignore . 56) (min-pixel-width-ignore . 56) (min-pixel-height-safe . 28) (min-pixel-width-safe . 14)) vc (pixel-width . 597) (pixel-height . 476) (total-width . 85) (total-height . 34) (normal-height . 
1.0) (normal-width . 1.0) (combination-limit) (leaf (pixel-width . 597) (pixel-height . 238) (total-width . 85) (total-height . 17) (normal-height . 0.5) (normal-width . 1.0) (buffer "mc.ext" (selected) (hscroll . 0) (fringes 10 11 nil) (margins nil) (scroll-bars 16 3 t nil) (vscroll . 0) (dedicated) (point . 5457) (start . 5293))) (leaf (last . t) (pixel-width . 597) (pixel-height . 238) (total-width . 85) (total-height . 17) (normal-height . 0.5) (normal-width . 1.0) (buffer "*Messages*" (selected . t) (hscroll . 0) (fringes 10 11 nil) (margins nil) (scroll-bars 16 3 t nil) (vscroll . 0) (dedicated) (point . 284) (start . 1)))))])
>
> You can see difference in "(sticky)" above. New "emacs --no-site-file" opened
> as sticky and when I close Emacs ~/.emacs.desktop changed to:
>
> (setq desktop-saved-frameset [frameset 1 (21653 24557 165658 111000) (desktop . "206") "user <at> desktop.home.int" nil nil ((((font-backend xft x) (font . "-Misc-Fixed-normal-normal-normal-*-14-*-*-*-c-70-iso10646-1") (font-parameter . "-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-c-*-iso10646-1") (border-width . 0) (internal-border-width . 0) (right-divider-width . 0) (bottom-divider-width . 0) (vertical-scroll-bars . right) (foreground-color . "black") (background-color . "white") (mouse-color . "black") (border-color . "black") (screen-gamma) (line-spacing) (left-fringe . 10) (right-fringe . 11) (scroll-bar-foreground) (scroll-bar-background . "grey75") (menu-bar-lines . 1) (tool-bar-lines . 1) (title) (wait-for-wm . t) (fullscreen) (tool-bar-position . top) (icon-type . t) (auto-raise) (auto-lower) (cursor-type . box) (scroll-bar-width . 16) (alpha) (horizontal-scroll-bars . t) (display-type . color) (background-mode . light) (cursor-color . "black") (environment) (frameset--id . "A948
-AB72-D73D-287C") (frameset--mini t . t) (modeline . t) (minibuffer . t) (unsplittable) (icon-name) (visibility . t) (display . ":0") (explicit-name) (sticky . t) (height . 35) (width . 80) (left . 1240) (top . 28)) ((min-height . 8) (min-width . 10) (min-height-ignore . 4) (min-width-ignore . 8) (min-height-safe . 2) (min-width-safe . 2) (min-pixel-height . 112) (min-pixel-width . 70) (min-pixel-height-ignore . 56) (min-pixel-width-ignore . 56) (min-pixel-height-safe . 28) (min-pixel-width-safe . 14)) vc (pixel-width . 597) (pixel-height . 476) (total-width . 85) (total-height . 34) 
(normal-height . 1.0) (normal-width . 1.0) (combination-limit) (leaf (pixel-width . 597) (pixel-height . 238) (total-width . 85) (total-height . 17) (normal-height . 0.5) (normal-width . 1.0) (buffer "mc.ext" (selected) (hscroll . 0) (fringes 10 11 nil) (margins nil) (scroll-bars 16 3 t nil) (vscroll . 0) (dedicated) (point . 5457) (start . 5293))) (leaf (last . t) (pixel-width . 597) (pixel-height . 238) (total-width . 85) (total-height . 17) (normal-height . 0.5) (normal-width . 1.0) (buffer "*Messages*" (selected . t) (hscroll . 0) (fringes 10 11 nil) (margins nil) (scroll-bars 16 3 t nil) (vscroll . 0) (dedicated) (point . 284) (start . 1)))))])
>
> You can see difference in "(sticky . t)" above. Next rerun leave
> ~/.emacs.desktop without changes.

To get it right: You first close Emacs with a shaded frame and if you
afterwards look at the desktop file it has (sticky) in it.  If you now
restart Emacs and close it again, the desktop file has (sticky . t).

> So there are two problems:
>
>   1) Emacs instead saving shaded window attribute add "(sticky)" to ~/.emacs.desktop

So if you do not have a desktop file initially but enable
`desktop-save-mode' and then

(1) close Emacs with a shaded frame, and

(2) close Emacs with an unshaded frame

the difference is a (sticky) entry for (1) and no such entry for (2).
Is that correct?

>   2) (desktop-read) wrongly apply (sticky), and (sticky . t) and (sticky . nil)
>   - as always sticky.

This sounds like a reasonable explanation.  x_net_wm_state has

/**   store_frame_param (f, Qsticky, sticky ? Qt : Qnil); **/

without any further comment, maybe it's related.  Does Emacs process

(set-frame-parameter nil 'sticky ...)

correctly on your system without desktop saving involved?

> I check /src/xterm.h:
>
>    /* Atoms dealing with EWMH (i.e. _NET_...) */
>    Atom Xatom_net_wm_state, Xatom_net_wm_state_fullscreen,
>      Xatom_net_wm_state_maximized_horz, Xatom_net_wm_state_maximized_vert,
>      Xatom_net_wm_state_sticky, Xatom_net_wm_state_hidden,
>      Xatom_net_frame_extents,
>      Xatom_net_current_desktop, Xatom_net_workarea;
>
> There are no _NET_WM_STATE_SHADED that defined in:
>
>    http://standards.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/wm-spec-1.3.html#idm140130317598336
>      _NET_WM_STATE
>
> which say:
>
>    Possible atoms are:
>
>    _NET_WM_STATE_MODAL, ATOM
>    _NET_WM_STATE_STICKY, ATOM
>    _NET_WM_STATE_MAXIMIZED_VERT, ATOM
>    _NET_WM_STATE_MAXIMIZED_HORZ, ATOM
>    _NET_WM_STATE_SHADED, ATOM
>    _NET_WM_STATE_SKIP_TASKBAR, ATOM
>    _NET_WM_STATE_SKIP_PAGER, ATOM
>    _NET_WM_STATE_HIDDEN, ATOM
>    _NET_WM_STATE_FULLSCREEN, ATOM
>    _NET_WM_STATE_ABOVE, ATOM
>    _NET_WM_STATE_BELOW, ATOM
>    _NET_WM_STATE_DEMANDS_ATTENTION, ATOM

We have to possibilities to deal with these: Either we wait for Jan to
return from his voyage or you fix these issues yourself.  Given your
findings above I'm quite confident that you could do it.

martin

Message #23 received at 19413 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Oleksandr Gavenko <gavenkoa <at> gmail.com>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
Cc: 19413 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#19413: 24.4;
 (desktop-save-mode 1) save frame as page and desktop sticky
 (_NET_WM_STATE_STICKY) when close Emacs shaded, (setq desktop-restore-frames
 nil) fix issue.
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 19:33:40 +0200

On 2014-12-20, martin rudalics wrote:

>> When frame sticky (Fvwm decorate it especially) I get "t". For non-sticky I
>> get "nil".
>
> So the value of sticky corresponds to what you see on screen.  Correct?

Yes.

> To get it right: You first close Emacs with a shaded frame and if you
> afterwards look at the desktop file it has (sticky) in it.  If you now
> restart Emacs and close it again, the desktop file has (sticky . t).

Yes.

>> So there are two problems:
>>
>>   1) Emacs instead saving shaded window attribute add "(sticky)" to ~/.emacs.desktop
>
> So if you do not have a desktop file initially but enable
> `desktop-save-mode' and then
>
> (1) close Emacs with a shaded frame, and
>
> (2) close Emacs with an unshaded frame
>
> the difference is a (sticky) entry for (1) and no such entry for (2).
> Is that correct?

Yes.

>>   2) (desktop-read) wrongly apply (sticky), and (sticky . t) and (sticky . nil)
>>   - as always sticky.
>
> This sounds like a reasonable explanation.  x_net_wm_state has
>
> /**   store_frame_param (f, Qsticky, sticky ? Qt : Qnil); **/
>
> without any further comment, maybe it's related.  Does Emacs process
>
> (set-frame-parameter nil 'sticky ...)
>
> correctly on your system without desktop saving involved?

Any of:

  (set-frame-parameter nil 'sticky t)
  (set-frame-parameter nil 'sticky nil)
  (set-frame-parameter nil 'sticky 1)
  (set-frame-parameter nil 'sticky -1)

make clean "emacs -Q" sticky. Seems that issue here.

It is possible Fvwm bug but I don't know how to distinct. In FvwmConsole I
run:

  WindowId 0x2400013 Stick false
  WindowId 0x2400013 Stick true

and Emacs window change stickness exactly to command.

>> I check /src/xterm.h:
>>
>>    /* Atoms dealing with EWMH (i.e. _NET_...) */
>>    Atom Xatom_net_wm_state, Xatom_net_wm_state_fullscreen,
>>      Xatom_net_wm_state_maximized_horz, Xatom_net_wm_state_maximized_vert,
>>      Xatom_net_wm_state_sticky, Xatom_net_wm_state_hidden,
>>      Xatom_net_frame_extents,
>>      Xatom_net_current_desktop, Xatom_net_workarea;
>>
>> There are no _NET_WM_STATE_SHADED that defined in:
>>
>>    http://standards.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/wm-spec-1.3.html#idm140130317598336
>>      _NET_WM_STATE
>>
>> which say:
>>
>>    Possible atoms are:
>>
>>    _NET_WM_STATE_MODAL, ATOM
>>    _NET_WM_STATE_STICKY, ATOM
>>    _NET_WM_STATE_MAXIMIZED_VERT, ATOM
>>    _NET_WM_STATE_MAXIMIZED_HORZ, ATOM
>>    _NET_WM_STATE_SHADED, ATOM
>>    _NET_WM_STATE_SKIP_TASKBAR, ATOM
>>    _NET_WM_STATE_SKIP_PAGER, ATOM
>>    _NET_WM_STATE_HIDDEN, ATOM
>>    _NET_WM_STATE_FULLSCREEN, ATOM
>>    _NET_WM_STATE_ABOVE, ATOM
>>    _NET_WM_STATE_BELOW, ATOM
>>    _NET_WM_STATE_DEMANDS_ATTENTION, ATOM
>
> We have to possibilities to deal with these: Either we wait for Jan to
> return from his voyage or you fix these issues yourself.  Given your
> findings above I'm quite confident that you could do it.

xterm.c and elisp frame handling code are complicate to me.

I just can summarise investigation: 

 * (set-frame-parameter nil 'sticky ...) doesn't work, it always set
   _NET_WM_STATE(ATOM) to _NET_WM_STATE_STICKY regardless passed value.

 * Emacs code base know nothing about _NET_WM_STATE_SHADED value of
   _NET_WM_STATE(ATOM).

 * There are no "shaded" (info "(elisp)Window Frame Parameters"). I see:
   ‘sticky’, ‘visibility’, ‘fullscreen’ (maximized, fullboth, fullwidth,
   fullheight).

 * Closing shaded Emacs with "(desktop-save-mode 1)" add (stick) parameter to
   ~/.emacs.desktop

-- 
Best regards!

Message #26 received at 19413 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jan Djärv <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>
To: Oleksandr Gavenko <gavenkoa <at> gmail.com>, martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
Cc: 19413 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#19413: 24.4; (desktop-save-mode 1) save frame as page and
 desktop sticky (_NET_WM_STATE_STICKY) when close Emacs shaded,
 (setq desktop-restore-frames nil) fix issue.
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 09:52:24 +0100

Den 2014-12-20 18:33, Oleksandr Gavenko skrev:
>
> I just can summarise investigation:
>
>   * (set-frame-parameter nil 'sticky ...) doesn't work, it always set
>     _NET_WM_STATE(ATOM) to _NET_WM_STATE_STICKY regardless passed value.

(set-frame-parameter nil 'sticky nil) does the right thing on non-buggy window 
managers.  Yours is not onw of them it seems.

>
>   * Emacs code base know nothing about _NET_WM_STATE_SHADED value of
>     _NET_WM_STATE(ATOM).

No.

>
>   * There are no "shaded" (info "(elisp)Window Frame Parameters"). I see:
>     ‘sticky’, ‘visibility’, ‘fullscreen’ (maximized, fullboth, fullwidth,
>     fullheight).

We don't support shaded.

>
>   * Closing shaded Emacs with "(desktop-save-mode 1)" add (stick) parameter to
>     ~/.emacs.desktop
>

This is the same as (set-frame-parameter nil 'sticky nil), which triggers a 
bug in your window manager.  Thats the whole problem.

	Jan D.

Message #29 received at 19413 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Jan Djärv <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>
Cc: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>, 19413 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Oleksandr Gavenko <gavenkoa <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#19413: 24.4; (desktop-save-mode 1) save frame as page and
 desktop sticky (_NET_WM_STATE_STICKY) when close Emacs shaded, (setq
 desktop-restore-frames nil) fix issue.
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 22:16:48 +0100

Jan Djärv <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se> writes:

>>   * Closing shaded Emacs with "(desktop-save-mode 1)" add (stick) parameter to
>>     ~/.emacs.desktop
>>
>
> This is the same as (set-frame-parameter nil 'sticky nil), which
> triggers a bug in your window manager.  Thats the whole problem.

(I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved
at the time.)

Skimming this bug report, it's not clear whether the problem is in Emacs
or in the window manager.  Is there something to be done here on the
Emacs side (if indeed this is still a problem in the current Emacs/wm
versions)?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #34 received at 19413 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>,
 Jan Djärv <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>,
 Oleksandr Gavenko <gavenkoa <at> gmail.com>, 19413 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#19413: 24.4; (desktop-save-mode 1) save frame as page and
 desktop sticky (_NET_WM_STATE_STICKY) when close Emacs shaded, (setq
 desktop-restore-frames nil) fix issue.
Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2022 14:13:25 +0800

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> Skimming this bug report, it's not clear whether the problem is in Emacs
> or in the window manager.  Is there something to be done here on the
> Emacs side (if indeed this is still a problem in the current Emacs/wm
> versions)?

I think not, the reporter should switch to a more well-behaved window
manager if the problem is still present.

Thanks.

Message #37 received at 19413 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com>
Cc: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>,
 Jan Djärv <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>, 19413 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Oleksandr Gavenko <gavenkoa <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#19413: 24.4; (desktop-save-mode 1) save frame as page and
 desktop sticky (_NET_WM_STATE_STICKY) when close Emacs shaded, (setq
 desktop-restore-frames nil) fix issue.
Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2022 03:35:34 +0100

Po Lu <luangruo <at> yahoo.com> writes:

>> Skimming this bug report, it's not clear whether the problem is in Emacs
>> or in the window manager.  Is there something to be done here on the
>> Emacs side (if indeed this is still a problem in the current Emacs/wm
>> versions)?
>
> I think not, the reporter should switch to a more well-behaved window
> manager if the problem is still present.

And there was no further response in a month, so I think this is the
conclusion, and I'm therefore closing this bug report.  If there's more
to be done here, please respond to the debbugs address and we'll reopen.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

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