From unknown Mon Aug 18 00:05:50 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#19232 <19232@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#19232 <19232@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 25.0.50; ring.el: why not autoload `ring-member' etc.? Reply-To: bug#19232 <19232@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2025 07:05:50 +0000 retitle 19232 25.0.50; ring.el: why not autoload `ring-member' etc.? reassign 19232 emacs submitter 19232 Drew Adams severity 19232 wishlist tag 19232 notabug wontfix thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 30 14:19:07 2014 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Nov 2014 19:19:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50139 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XvA1S-0002Pp-Um for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 14:19:07 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35232) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XvA1R-0002Ph-E0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 14:19:05 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XvA1H-0006UG-4r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 14:19:05 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:53926) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XvA1H-0006UC-1L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 14:18:55 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36908) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XvA17-0005OD-T6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 14:18:54 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XvA0z-0006SY-6e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 14:18:45 -0500 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:36544) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XvA0y-0006SP-Vd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 14:18:37 -0500 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id sAUJIZEg012073 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 19:18:36 GMT Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id sAUJIYEB006056 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 19:18:35 GMT Received: from abhmp0010.oracle.com (abhmp0010.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id sAUJIYOi006053 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 19:18:34 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <0c8bdd78-ef47-4ce6-ae96-353a1920c5c1@default> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 11:18:30 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 25.0.50; ring.el: why not autoload `ring-member' etc.? X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Subject line says it all. Why make users `require' ring.el for such functions, or autoload them themselves? Do what you do now for `ringp' and `make-ring' for other functions as well, such as `ring-insert', `ring-member', and `ring-next'. This is a utility library. In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2014-10-20 on LEG570 Bzr revision: 118168 rgm@gnu.org-20141020195941-icp42t8ttcnud09g Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs CPPFLAGS=3D-DGLYPH_DEBUG=3D1' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 30 22:59:45 2014 Received: (at 19232) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Dec 2014 03:59:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50254 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XvI9I-0005PK-PY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 22:59:44 -0500 Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:59628) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XvI9G-0005P5-C0; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 22:59:42 -0500 Received: from pastel.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id sB13xdFX017820; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 22:59:40 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 210B485E7; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 22:59:39 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: bug#19232: 25.0.50; ring.el: why not autoload `ring-member' etc.? Message-ID: References: <0c8bdd78-ef47-4ce6-ae96-353a1920c5c1@default> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 22:59:39 -0500 In-Reply-To: <0c8bdd78-ef47-4ce6-ae96-353a1920c5c1@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 30 Nov 2014 11:18:30 -0800 (PST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV5141=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9393 : core <5141> : inlines <1571> : streams <1350042> : uri <1836816> X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19232 Cc: 19232@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) tags 19232 notabug thanks > Subject line says it all. Why make users `require' ring.el for such > functions, or autoload them themselves? Do what you do now for `ringp' > and `make-ring' for other functions as well, such as `ring-insert', > `ring-member', and `ring-next'. This is a utility library. I think the error is to autoload ring-p and make-ring. Of course it's a bit late to fix it, but that's no reason to add many more autoloads. Just (require 'ring) like everyone else if you use functions from that library. 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