From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Nov 22 17:31:39 2014 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Nov 2014 22:31:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42050 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XsJDO-0007b5-Es for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:31:39 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42992) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XsJ6k-0007QS-Kn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:24:47 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XsJ6d-0000Ym-GT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:24:46 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:58022) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XsJ6d-0000Ye-D6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:24:39 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44691) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XsJ6X-00048S-C9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:24:39 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XsJ6R-0000Xl-DE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:24:33 -0500 Received: from mail-la0-f46.google.com ([209.85.215.46]:56393) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XsJ6R-0000Xh-4z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:24:27 -0500 Received: by mail-la0-f46.google.com with SMTP id gd6so5936346lab.5 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 14:24:25 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=oxHR004PpFa3ygaQWYV9Q4AHFk+52SWYdxubp8mOuYQ=; b=YnSrqwOSZCBZY5BkfTU6yZ3IzdnVEQcXmjDiFlhz/vaAcaS7fzsqHDePBhqXoCsgbM UGPb5hlfLJtKu1w2mWS9zJgGEsR2oC9GU4PNPLlrsM2GzVjy7EauVbW6uYh3ALXngEME IKIcu4b9o2YUOs1JHRIE1MF7ESsJMMuWOuldojL5VuJERFZ/KF0I4l2Z8dZtRsR01YKo RPegyxlweay7uwG8Hxh5tmraOSaROkj/Z8LGJ/N0bpH2XQKofz1HpjQ3CnBDF3GrgMIR 7AODb03toCbY4VhSz1Gelft4CN9xM7UuYjfkxjGE+EbRf/xj6TOUSLPus81qsmcTlIOG ZZlw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnsP9fLDTxBaOXejZRdgZ/oTuFGjZfQviPtFhBwdTVaRZstwSGBWRbLhgO7urWpp8XLAGxH MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.121.1 with SMTP id lg1mr12444999lab.28.1416695065341; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 14:24:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.93.8 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 14:24:25 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [209.6.93.175] Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:24:25 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: 24.4; Batch mode doesn't call package-initialize, can't find packages From: Gary Oberbrunner To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0115ef1020154f05087a066c X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:31:37 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) --089e0115ef1020154f05087a066c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 In batch mode, emacs doesn't load installed packages, although the doc implies that it should. If you want to eval forms that require packages, you have to call (package-initialize) explicitly. For instance, from a shell: % emacs -batch -eval '(progn (message "%s" package-directory-list))' Symbol's value as variable is void: package-directory-list % emacs -batch -eval '(progn (package-initialize) (message "%s" package-directory-list))' (c:/emacs/emacs/share/emacs/24.4/site-lisp/elpa c:/emacs/emacs/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa) Or, since I have the 'dash' package installed in my ~/.emacs.d/elpa: % emacs -batch -eval "(progn (require 'dash))" Cannot open load file: no such file or directory, dash % emacs -batch -eval "(progn (package-initialize) (require 'dash))" % The documentation at http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Startup-Summary.html is not totally clear on this, but it implies that packages should be loaded. In GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2014-10-24 on LEG570 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --prefix=/c/usr' Important settings: value of $LANG: ENU locale-coding-system: cp1252 Major mode: Apropos -- Gary --089e0115ef1020154f05087a066c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In batch mode, emacs doesn't load installed packa= ges, although the doc implies that it should.=C2=A0 If you want to eval for= ms that require packages, you have to call (package-initialize) explicitly.=

For instance, from a shell:

<= div>% emacs -batch -eval '(progn (message "%s" package-direct= ory-list))'
Symbol's value as variable is void: package-d= irectory-list
% emacs -batch -eval '(progn (package-initializ= e) (message "%s" package-directory-list))'
(c:/emac= s/emacs/share/emacs/24.4/site-lisp/elpa c:/emacs/emacs/share/emacs/site-lis= p/elpa)

Or, since I have the 'dash' packag= e installed in my ~/.emacs.d/elpa:

% emacs -batch = -eval "(progn (require 'dash))"
Cannot open load fi= le: no such file or directory, dash
% emacs -batch -eval "(p= rogn (package-initialize) (require 'dash))"
%
=
The documentation at
is not totally clear on this, but it implies that packages should be loa= ded.



In GNU Emacs 24= .4.1 (i686-pc-mingw32)
=C2=A0of 2014-10-24 on LEG570
Wi= ndowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601
Configured using:
=C2=A0`configure --prefix=3D/c/usr'
=

Important settings:
=C2=A0 value of $LANG: EN= U
=C2=A0 locale-coding-system: cp1252

Ma= jor mode: Apropos


--
Gary
--089e0115ef1020154f05087a066c-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 23 06:26:44 2014 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Nov 2014 11:26:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42206 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XsVJU-0001g1-29 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 06:26:44 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46923) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XsVJR-0001fr-Be for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 06:26:41 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XsVJM-0007TW-2t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 06:26:41 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,URIBL_SBL autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:33181) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XsVJL-0007TS-WA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 06:26:36 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48615) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XsVJG-00073k-Vm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 06:26:35 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XsVJB-0007SM-9c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 06:26:30 -0500 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:57307) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XsVJB-0007SI-43 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 06:26:25 -0500 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XsVJA-0006do-ER for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 12:26:24 +0100 Received: from c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([98.229.61.72]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 12:26:24 +0100 Received: from tzz by c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 12:26:24 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Ted Zlatanov Subject: Re: bug#19151: 24.4; Batch mode doesn't call package-initialize, can't find packages Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 06:26:51 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Lines: 24 Message-ID: <87fvda6ttw.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:2v8OxXEf8UyP/IYzQsjQ/x6Grag= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:24:25 -0500 Gary Oberbrunner wrote: GO> In batch mode, emacs doesn't load installed packages, although the doc GO> implies that it should. If you want to eval forms that require packages, GO> you have to call (package-initialize) explicitly. ... GO> The documentation at GO> http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Startup-Summary.html GO> is not totally clear on this, but it implies that packages should be loaded. I see this in the docs at (info "(elisp) Startup Summary") 15. If ‘package-enable-at-startup’ is non-‘nil’, it calls the function ‘package-initialize’ to activate any optional Emacs Lisp package that has been installed. *Note Packaging Basics::. Seems pretty clear to me. We could use a command-line argument to make --batch more useful, though. Something like --package-initialize, -p Set `package-enable-at-startup' so packages are initialized WDYT? Ted From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 23 11:29:43 2014 Received: (at 19151) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Nov 2014 16:29:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42835 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xsa2h-0004NW-2i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:29:43 -0500 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:32917) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xsa2e-0004NN-LO for 19151@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:29:41 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NFI001002SJXA00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 19151@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 18:29:38 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NFI001HU35EI7A0@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 18:29:38 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 18:29:46 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#19151: 24.4; Batch mode doesn't call package-initialize, can't find packages In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Gary Oberbrunner Message-id: <837fylsww5.fsf@gnu.org> References: X-Spam-Score: 1.6 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:24:25 -0500 > From: Gary Oberbrunner > > In batch mode, emacs doesn't load installed packages, although the doc implies > that it should. If you want to eval forms that require packages, you have to > call (package-initialize) explicitly. > > For instance, from a shell: > > % emacs -batch -eval '(progn (message "%s" package-directory-list))' > Symbol's value as variable is void: package-directory-list > % emacs -batch -eval '(progn (package-initialize) (message "%s" > package-directory-list))' > (c:/emacs/emacs/share/emacs/24.4/site-lisp/elpa > c:/emacs/emacs/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa) > > Or, since I have the 'dash' package installed in my ~/.emacs.d/elpa: > > % emacs -batch -eval "(progn (require 'dash))" > Cannot open load file: no such file or directory, dash > % emacs -batch -eval "(progn (package-initialize) (require 'dash))" > % > > The documentation at > http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Startup-Summary.html > is not totally clear on this, but it implies that packages should be loaded. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:24:25 -0500 > From: Gary Oberbrunner > > In batch mode, emacs doesn't load installed packages, although the doc implies > that it should. If you want to eval forms that require packages, you have to > call (package-initialize) explicitly. > > For instance, from a shell: > > % emacs -batch -eval '(progn (message "%s" package-directory-list))' > Symbol's value as variable is void: package-directory-list > % emacs -batch -eval '(progn (package-initialize) (message "%s" > package-directory-list))' > (c:/emacs/emacs/share/emacs/24.4/site-lisp/elpa > c:/emacs/emacs/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa) > > Or, since I have the 'dash' package installed in my ~/.emacs.d/elpa: > > % emacs -batch -eval "(progn (require 'dash))" > Cannot open load file: no such file or directory, dash > % emacs -batch -eval "(progn (package-initialize) (require 'dash))" > % > > The documentation at > http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Startup-Summary.html > is not totally clear on this, but it implies that packages should be loaded. [...] Content analysis details: (1.6 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.179.55.169 listed in list.dnswl.org] 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.6 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL's NS IP listed in the SBL blocklist [URIs: oberbrunner.com] > Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:24:25 -0500 > From: Gary Oberbrunner > > In batch mode, emacs doesn't load installed packages, although the doc implies > that it should. If you want to eval forms that require packages, you have to > call (package-initialize) explicitly. > > For instance, from a shell: > > % emacs -batch -eval '(progn (message "%s" package-directory-list))' > Symbol's value as variable is void: package-directory-list > % emacs -batch -eval '(progn (package-initialize) (message "%s" > package-directory-list))' > (c:/emacs/emacs/share/emacs/24.4/site-lisp/elpa > c:/emacs/emacs/share/emacs/site-lisp/elpa) > > Or, since I have the 'dash' package installed in my ~/.emacs.d/elpa: > > % emacs -batch -eval "(progn (require 'dash))" > Cannot open load file: no such file or directory, dash > % emacs -batch -eval "(progn (package-initialize) (require 'dash))" > % > > The documentation at > http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Startup-Summary.html > is not totally clear on this, but it implies that packages should be loaded. I think this is a documentation bug. package-initialize is not invoked under -q (which I Think makes sense), and -batch implies -q. 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[206.188.64.44]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id m133sm3131527ioa.23.2016.07.01.18.24.35 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 01 Jul 2016 18:24:35 -0700 (PDT) From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#19151: 24.4; Batch mode doesn't call package-initialize, can't find packages References: <837fylsww5.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2016 21:24:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: <837fylsww5.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 23 Nov 2014 18:29:46 +0200") Message-ID: <87furshlwi.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19151 Cc: Gary Oberbrunner , 19151@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain tags 19151 patch quit Eli Zaretskii writes: >> The documentation at >> http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Startup-Summary.html >> is not totally clear on this, but it implies that packages should be loaded. > > I think this is a documentation bug. package-initialize is not > invoked under -q (which I Think makes sense), and -batch implies -q. Other items nearby explicitly talk about those options, here's a patch to add it for package-initialize as well. Looks ok? --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: inline; filename=v1-0001-Explain-when-package-initialize-isn-t-called.patch Content-Description: patch >From a656d3ce526fc475a3067599f09b85771ea39ba0 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Noam Postavsky Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 21:15:28 -0400 Subject: [PATCH v1] Explain when package-initialize isn't called * doc/lispref/os.texi (Startup Summary): Explain that package-initialize is not called when options -q, -Q, or --batch were passed (Bug #19151). --- doc/lispref/os.texi | 8 +++++--- 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/doc/lispref/os.texi b/doc/lispref/os.texi index 5f189b9..e15eec7 100644 --- a/doc/lispref/os.texi +++ b/doc/lispref/os.texi @@ -155,9 +155,11 @@ Startup Summary option @samp{--batch} was specified. @item -If @code{package-enable-at-startup} is non-@code{nil}, it calls the -function @code{package-initialize} to activate any optional Emacs Lisp -package that has been installed. @xref{Packaging Basics}. +It calls the function @code{package-initialize} to activate any +optional Emacs Lisp package that has been installed. @xref{Packaging +Basics}. This is not done if @code{package-enable-at-startup} is +@code{nil}, nor if the options @samp{-q}, @samp{-Q}, or @samp{--batch} +were specified. @vindex after-init-time @item -- 2.8.0 --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 02 04:00:56 2016 Received: (at 19151) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jul 2016 08:00:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34328 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bJFrE-0006fo-5i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 04:00:56 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58826) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bJFrC-0006fb-UA for 19151@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 04:00:55 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJFr4-0007gD-6B for 19151@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 04:00:49 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48857) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJFr4-0007g9-2a; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 04:00:46 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2578 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bJFr3-0000WC-6j; Sat, 02 Jul 2016 04:00:45 -0400 Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2016 11:00:31 +0300 Message-Id: <837fd4tqow.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net In-reply-to: <87furshlwi.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> (npostavs@users.sourceforge.net) Subject: Re: bug#19151: 24.4; Batch mode doesn't call package-initialize, can't find packages References: <837fylsww5.fsf@gnu.org> <87furshlwi.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19151 Cc: garyo@oberbrunner.com, 19151@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) > From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net > Cc: Gary Oberbrunner , 19151@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2016 21:24:45 -0400 > > >From a656d3ce526fc475a3067599f09b85771ea39ba0 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > From: Noam Postavsky > Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 21:15:28 -0400 > Subject: [PATCH v1] Explain when package-initialize isn't called > > * doc/lispref/os.texi (Startup Summary): Explain that package-initialize > is not called when options -q, -Q, or --batch were passed (Bug #19151). > --- > doc/lispref/os.texi | 8 +++++--- > 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/doc/lispref/os.texi b/doc/lispref/os.texi > index 5f189b9..e15eec7 100644 > --- a/doc/lispref/os.texi > +++ b/doc/lispref/os.texi > @@ -155,9 +155,11 @@ Startup Summary > option @samp{--batch} was specified. > > @item > -If @code{package-enable-at-startup} is non-@code{nil}, it calls the > -function @code{package-initialize} to activate any optional Emacs Lisp > -package that has been installed. @xref{Packaging Basics}. > +It calls the function @code{package-initialize} to activate any > +optional Emacs Lisp package that has been installed. @xref{Packaging > +Basics}. This is not done if @code{package-enable-at-startup} is > +@code{nil}, nor if the options @samp{-q}, @samp{-Q}, or @samp{--batch} > +were specified. I would rephrase the last sentence: However, when @code{package-enable-at-startup} is @code{nil}, Emacs doesn't initialize packages. When Emacs is started with one of the options @samp{-q}, @samp{-Q}, or @samp{--batch}, @code{package-enable-at-startup} is @code{nil} by default; to initialize packages in that case, explicitly set that variable to a non-@code{nil} value (e.g., via the @samp{--eval} option). The reason is that the additional explicit information about how to initialize packages in this case is IMO valuable, and also we should avoid passive tense as much as possible. Thanks. 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[206.188.64.44]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id y73sm2181105iof.32.2016.07.02.13.50.34 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 02 Jul 2016 13:50:34 -0700 (PDT) From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#19151: 24.4; Batch mode doesn't call package-initialize, can't find packages References: <837fylsww5.fsf@gnu.org> <87furshlwi.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <837fd4tqow.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2016 16:50:42 -0400 In-Reply-To: <837fd4tqow.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 02 Jul 2016 11:00:31 +0300") Message-ID: <877fd3hihp.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19151 Cc: garyo@oberbrunner.com, 19151@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Eli Zaretskii writes: >> +It calls the function @code{package-initialize} to activate any >> +optional Emacs Lisp package that has been installed. @xref{Packaging >> +Basics}. This is not done if @code{package-enable-at-startup} is >> +@code{nil}, nor if the options @samp{-q}, @samp{-Q}, or @samp{--batch} >> +were specified. > > I would rephrase the last sentence: > > However, when @code{package-enable-at-startup} is @code{nil}, Emacs > doesn't initialize packages. When Emacs is started with one of the > options @samp{-q}, @samp{-Q}, or @samp{--batch}, > @code{package-enable-at-startup} is @code{nil} by default; to > initialize packages in that case, explicitly set that variable to a > non-@code{nil} value (e.g., via the @samp{--eval} option). Phrasing is alright, but it's factually inaccurate. In startup.el we have ;; If any package directory exists, initialize the package system. (and user-init-file package-enable-at-startup ...[lots more file searching] (package-initialize)) The -q option sets user-init-file to nil. I guess we needn't mention user-init-file by name in the docs as it's an internal detail. Here's a new patch: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: inline; filename=v2-0001-Explain-when-package-initialize-isn-t-called.patch Content-Description: patch2 >From b1d2cf2c2ca86151c25d1c59c7eb210179086be2 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Noam Postavsky Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 21:15:28 -0400 Subject: [PATCH v2] Explain when package-initialize isn't called * doc/lispref/os.texi (Startup Summary): Explain that package-initialize is not called when options -q, -Q, or --batch were passed (Bug #19151). --- doc/lispref/os.texi | 10 +++++++--- 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/doc/lispref/os.texi b/doc/lispref/os.texi index 5f189b9..ec14b01 100644 --- a/doc/lispref/os.texi +++ b/doc/lispref/os.texi @@ -155,9 +155,13 @@ Startup Summary option @samp{--batch} was specified. @item -If @code{package-enable-at-startup} is non-@code{nil}, it calls the -function @code{package-initialize} to activate any optional Emacs Lisp -package that has been installed. @xref{Packaging Basics}. +It calls the function @code{package-initialize} to activate any +optional Emacs Lisp package that has been installed. @xref{Packaging +Basics}. However, Emacs doesn't initialize packages when +@code{package-enable-at-startup} is @code{nil} or when it's started +with one of the options @samp{-q}, @samp{-Q}, or @samp{--batch}. To +initialize packages in the latter case, @code{package-initialize} +should be called explicitly (e.g., via the @samp{--funcall} option). @vindex after-init-time @item -- 2.8.0 --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 03 00:15:27 2016 Received: (at 19151) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jul 2016 04:15:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35043 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bJYoY-0007ug-SY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2016 00:15:27 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43010) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bJYoW-0007uU-V4 for 19151@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2016 00:15:25 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJYoQ-0005jE-NW for 19151@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2016 00:15:19 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59335) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bJYoL-0005iu-EW; Sun, 03 Jul 2016 00:15:13 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4009 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bJYoK-0004BX-11; Sun, 03 Jul 2016 00:15:12 -0400 Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2016 07:14:59 +0300 Message-Id: <83wpl3qrwc.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net In-reply-to: <877fd3hihp.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> (npostavs@users.sourceforge.net) Subject: Re: bug#19151: 24.4; Batch mode doesn't call package-initialize, can't find packages References: <837fylsww5.fsf@gnu.org> <87furshlwi.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <837fd4tqow.fsf@gnu.org> <877fd3hihp.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19151 Cc: garyo@oberbrunner.com, 19151@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) > From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net > Cc: 19151@debbugs.gnu.org, garyo@oberbrunner.com > Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2016 16:50:42 -0400 > > >From b1d2cf2c2ca86151c25d1c59c7eb210179086be2 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 > From: Noam Postavsky > Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 21:15:28 -0400 > Subject: [PATCH v2] Explain when package-initialize isn't called > > * doc/lispref/os.texi (Startup Summary): Explain that package-initialize > is not called when options -q, -Q, or --batch were passed (Bug #19151). > --- > doc/lispref/os.texi | 10 +++++++--- > 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/doc/lispref/os.texi b/doc/lispref/os.texi > index 5f189b9..ec14b01 100644 > --- a/doc/lispref/os.texi > +++ b/doc/lispref/os.texi > @@ -155,9 +155,13 @@ Startup Summary > option @samp{--batch} was specified. > > @item > -If @code{package-enable-at-startup} is non-@code{nil}, it calls the > -function @code{package-initialize} to activate any optional Emacs Lisp > -package that has been installed. @xref{Packaging Basics}. > +It calls the function @code{package-initialize} to activate any > +optional Emacs Lisp package that has been installed. @xref{Packaging > +Basics}. However, Emacs doesn't initialize packages when > +@code{package-enable-at-startup} is @code{nil} or when it's started > +with one of the options @samp{-q}, @samp{-Q}, or @samp{--batch}. To > +initialize packages in the latter case, @code{package-initialize} > +should be called explicitly (e.g., via the @samp{--funcall} option). > > @vindex after-init-time > @item > -- > 2.8.0 Fine with me, thanks. 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[206.188.64.44]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id q128sm3708246iod.30.2016.07.03.06.21.04 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 03 Jul 2016 06:21:04 -0700 (PDT) From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#19151: 24.4; Batch mode doesn't call package-initialize, can't find packages References: <837fylsww5.fsf@gnu.org> <87furshlwi.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <837fd4tqow.fsf@gnu.org> <877fd3hihp.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <83wpl3qrwc.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2016 09:21:13 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83wpl3qrwc.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 03 Jul 2016 07:14:59 +0300") Message-ID: <87h9c6g8mu.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19151 Cc: garyo@oberbrunner.com, 19151@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) tags 19151 fixed close 19151 25.1 quit Eli Zaretskii writes: > > Fine with me, thanks. 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