From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:12:37 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#19148 <19148@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#19148 <19148@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: ls --inode --sort=inode Reply-To: bug#19148 <19148@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 04:12:37 +0000 retitle 19148 ls --inode --sort=3Dinode reassign 19148 coreutils submitter 19148 =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson severity 19148 normal tag 19148 notabug thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 21 19:04:21 2014 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Nov 2014 00:04:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41328 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XryBZ-0005iA-0v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 19:04:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56676) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XryBW-0005i2-MV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 19:04:19 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XryBP-0007nH-L5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 19:04:18 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:35850) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XryBP-0007nC-I2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 19:04:11 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58345) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XryBJ-0004bz-C2 for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 19:04:11 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XryBD-0007ko-C2 for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 19:04:05 -0500 Received: from homie.mail.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.208]:55100 helo=homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XryBD-0007kh-4q for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 19:03:59 -0500 Received: from homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D818434806E for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 16:03:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= jidanni.org; bh=jo3MxKxBbdEEUJid/VGc36e5ZL8=; b=JiJ9kFn2O3KBj8OM 6UMIZ8nzj73/GDHE23QaZaUnUYqF9jD3ix2YO/QIIPvN1yyq5b8r28sw8eA2dxP9 gDvYcZCZOWRaf1G+cevVWPk8vveSnI0XO8J+Pvo7za7jZbf3SgpyQ1kx7G6PI4/v foOrkfypy358QPHOml7WYPRgGnY= Received: from jidanni.org (114-26-43-143.dynamic.hinet.net [114.26.43.143]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A2C9C348062 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 16:03:57 -0800 (PST) From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Subject: ls --inode --sort=inode Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 07:57:49 +0800 Message-ID: <87mw7kayyq.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) $ man ls --sort=WORD sort by WORD instead of name: none (-U), size (-S), time (-t), version (-v), extension (-X) Perhaps add new functionality: inode (-i) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 21 19:33:21 2014 Received: (at 19148) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Nov 2014 00:33:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41334 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xrydc-0006Oh-MF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 19:33:21 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:43243) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xryda-0006OY-J6 for 19148@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 19:33:19 -0500 Received: from int-mx11.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx11.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.24]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id sAM0XHkC030108 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 21 Nov 2014 19:33:17 -0500 Received: from [10.3.113.145] (ovpn-113-145.phx2.redhat.com [10.3.113.145]) by int-mx11.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id sAM0XFfV002667; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 19:33:17 -0500 Message-ID: <546FD9CA.4010902@redhat.com> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 17:33:14 -0700 From: Eric Blake Organization: Red Hat, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8IERhbiBKYWNvYnNvbg==?= , 19148@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#19148: ls --inode --sort=inode References: <87mw7kayyq.fsf@jidanni.org> In-Reply-To: <87mw7kayyq.fsf@jidanni.org> OpenPGP: url=http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9fusifNPtmIkwlmb02ADRmROjsW2esXc3" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.5.11.24 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19148 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --9fusifNPtmIkwlmb02ADRmROjsW2esXc3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/21/2014 04:57 PM, =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson wrote: > $ man ls > --sort=3DWORD > sort by WORD instead of name: none (-U), size (-S), tim= e (-t), > version (-v), extension (-X) >=20 > Perhaps add new functionality: inode (-i) Nice idea, especially since we've already proven that 'rm' and other tasks run faster when it first sorts by inode internally. To _some_ extent, you can get the behavior by doing: ls -iU | sort -k1,1n | sed 's/^[0-9]* //' but since ls already is wired for sorting, it has a nice appeal to do it all from with ls. Also, my workaround doesn't help with ls outputs other than single file per line, and isn't entirely robust if a filename contains newline. However, we CANNOT treat '--sort=3Dinode' as equivalent to '-i', because the existing meaning of -i does NOT affect sorting (all of the other sort options -U, -S, -t, -v, and -X DO affect sorting, and --sort is just a long-option-y way of spelling the same), and for back-compat reasons, we cannot change the behavior of -i. Also, I'm very reluctant to burn another short-option letter for 'ls'. Besides, since both '-i' and '-I' are already burned, and what other good mnemonic would we even have? I guess it would be okay to have a long option with no short-option counterpart; it would look a bit awkward in the help text, but we could figure something out. --=20 Eric Blake eblake redhat com +1-919-301-3266 Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org --9fusifNPtmIkwlmb02ADRmROjsW2esXc3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Public key at http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJUb9nKAAoJEKeha0olJ0NqPtgIAK/vbJOk9jeEYDFiy4t6YJww Tpu+1PS4IvpooSvoWu3tycmM7Nu87aWLO2uN1rmOguPmNyVmbFg2d76Bf/xPqkJL C/6tAfVMVBbiB85fIW5jhhDepb68/RVnlmbcQCaQuIEjzRKtpcyZIREXriHwT3XR MOUQcSI4l/DSBpYQAl4RCAKZD1pRGgqFPhRi9sgIeV/wGJWAmnOrRA68r7WdNU2O CoRSFXU/8QGjUeprJez2scJJR6L4Lj7O2Sxgp3nSk31GM2IWgskaVMEvHV9OPJkg ZEUq+G0wrWKo5UbJbyqnl62nTHGdWLyt+wf3rKiAhTnTfyM0J1Uj87kQFF45Zqw= =NGid -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9fusifNPtmIkwlmb02ADRmROjsW2esXc3-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 21 20:06:07 2014 Received: (at 19148) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Nov 2014 01:06:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41342 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xrz9L-00078s-L7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 20:06:07 -0500 Received: from mail2.vodafone.ie ([213.233.128.44]:16894) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xrz9J-00078h-9E for 19148@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 20:06:05 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ar8GAB/gb1RtTZiq/2dsb2JhbABcgw6CUYFjzFmDHQEJAoEHFgEBAQEBfYQDAQEEIw8BVgkCDQsCAgUWCwICCQMCAQIBRQYBDAgBAYhBAZlfnHuGC5EIAQsggS2PZYJ5gVUBBKctjmCDfUiCewEBAQ Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([109.77.152.170]) by mail2.vodafone.ie with ESMTP; 22 Nov 2014 01:06:03 +0000 Message-ID: <546FE17B.6070800@draigBrady.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 01:06:03 +0000 From: =?UTF-8?B?UMOhZHJhaWcgQnJhZHk=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8IERhbiBKYWNvYnNvbg==?= , 19148@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#19148: ls --inode --sort=inode References: <87mw7kayyq.fsf@jidanni.org> In-Reply-To: <87mw7kayyq.fsf@jidanni.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19148 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On 21/11/14 23:57, 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote: > $ man ls > --sort=WORD > sort by WORD instead of name: none (-U), size (-S), time (-t), > version (-v), extension (-X) > > Perhaps add new functionality: inode (-i) Yes maybe, especially when combined with -R. Do you have a specific use case to help decide on applicability. Note `find | sort` seems more suited for low level access like this. thanks, Pádraig. 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I thought that is why there was a separate --sort, just for those cases... Ah.. Oh.. OK. Anyway P=C3=A1draig, my usage case was **secret** (so dumb as to make thi= s bug report INVALID, so I'm not revealing it!) 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Content preview: tag 19148 notabug close 19148 stop [...] Content analysis details: (2.0 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [213.233.128.44 listed in list.dnswl.org] 1.8 MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject: header 0.2 NO_SUBJECT Extra score for no subject tag 19148 notabug close 19148 stop From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 21 21:10:50 2014 Received: (at 19148) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Nov 2014 02:10:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41362 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xs09x-0001ZD-Rg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 21:10:50 -0500 Received: from homie.mail.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.208]:48024 helo=homiemail-a6.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xs09q-0001Yx-TG for 19148@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 21:10:43 -0500 Received: from homiemail-a6.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a6.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F94D59806C for <19148@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 18:10:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; s=jidanni.org; bh=68UUo9B+V8yicKE8meH l+XMM3cI=; b=H1L0sFC1d7kFTFoWAsXoCirAq2850y/r50YnnXHuT5AIJAAnnhV CWENcIjULEHFufS9WUNFEfGiHO0Xz54QRyqjHUIlX/ir809DnWEKahAm1gigOHLM FAiI910DOFUpBDATCSYW6GoszySgZsDppZEwMZSruc2rnQOtJfLN3cAY= Received: from jidanni.org (114-26-43-143.dynamic.hinet.net [114.26.43.143]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a6.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 29EAB598069 for <19148@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 18:10:42 -0800 (PST) From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: 19148@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#19148 acknowledged by developer () References: <546FE902.6030507@draigBrady.com> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 10:10:39 +0800 Message-ID: <8761e8astc.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19148 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) I still wish this $ ls -i --sort=3Dinode ls: invalid argument =E2=80=98inode=E2=80=99 for =E2=80=98--sort=E2=80=99 Valid arguments are: - =E2=80=98none=E2=80=99 - =E2=80=98time=E2=80=99 - =E2=80=98size=E2=80=99 - =E2=80=98extension=E2=80=99 - =E2=80=98version=E2=80=99 Try 'ls --help' for more information. worked. 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