From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 21 10:33:25 2014 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Nov 2014 15:33:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41038 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XrqD6-0006Bx-Rn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 10:33:25 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34355) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XrqD4-0006Bp-M3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 10:33:23 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XrqD0-000767-1l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 10:33:22 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:51871) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XrqCz-00075z-Va for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 10:33:17 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35939) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XrqCv-0001Jr-Kg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 10:33:17 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XrqCr-00071b-AY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 10:33:13 -0500 Received: from kawka.in.waw.pl ([178.63.212.103]:44722) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XrqCr-00070C-1p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 10:33:09 -0500 Received: from zbyszek by kawka.in.waw.pl with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1XrqCh-0002HQ-Gq; Fri, 21 Nov 2014 16:32:59 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?q?Zbigniew=20J=C4=99drzejewski-Szmek?= To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: [PATCH] * etc/emacs.appdata.xml: Extend the description Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 16:32:51 +0100 Message-Id: <1416583971-8733-1-git-send-email-zbyszek@in.waw.pl> X-Mailer: git-send-email 1.7.10.4 In-Reply-To: References: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: Petr Hracek , Richard Hughes , =?UTF-8?q?Zbigniew=20J=C4=99drzejewski-Szmek?= X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) This extends the description to be easier to understand for users who have no idea what emacs is, and are trying to pick out an editor out of a list. Therefore it concentrates less on lisp and extensibility, but more on features and functionality and describes them more verbosely. There are also more screenshots, showing actual use, so people can see the editor in action in various modes. --- Hi, this patch updates the appdata file to have longer, newbie-oriented description. I prepared an appdata file for the Fedora package but only submitted it through the Fedora bug-tracker [1]. Meanwhile, an upstream appdata entry was added. This is a merge of the two files: it merges the two descriptions and adds more screenshots. Screenshots are located on my personal page, and while they are not going away anytime soon, I image that if you incorporate my patch, you might want to transfer them to gnu.org. The URLs in the patch should be updated than. Thanks, Zbyszek [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1124892 etc/emacs.appdata.xml | 56 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---------------- 1 file changed, 39 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-) diff --git a/etc/emacs.appdata.xml b/etc/emacs.appdata.xml index d662bcba55..e1fe10414e 100644 --- a/etc/emacs.appdata.xml +++ b/etc/emacs.appdata.xml @@ -6,26 +6,48 @@ GPL-3.0+ and GFDL-1.3 GNU Emacs - An extensible text editor + Edit text files, view pictures and binary files

- GNU Emacs is an extensible, customizable text editor - and more. - At its core is an interpreter for Emacs Lisp, a dialect of the Lisp - programming language with extensions to support text editing. + Emacs is a powerful, customizable, self-documenting, modeless + editor. It is used primarely to edit text, including text + documents, source code of programs, web pages and XML documents, + but can also be used to display and edit binary files.

-

The features of GNU Emacs include:

-
    -
  • Content-sensitive editing modes, including syntax coloring, for - a wide-range of file types
    • -
  • Complete built-in documentation, including a tutorial for new users
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  • Full Unicode support for nearly all human languages and their scripts
    • -
  • Highly customizable, using Emacs Lisp code or a graphical interface
    • -
  • Includes a project planner, mail and news reader, debugger - interface, calendar, and more
    • -
- - - http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/images/appdata.png +

+ Emacs allows efficient editing of text with shortcuts which allow + operating on letters, words, sentences, and paragraphs as single + units. This includes both moving around and operations like + copying, deleting, transposing, and pasting. Macros can be + conveniently defined to repeat sequences of commands. In addition, + Emacs is (partially) built in a scripting language (elisp) which + can also be used to define further functions extending existing + capabilities. +

+

+ Emacs has extensive support for editing source code, including + programmable syntax highlighting, automatic indentation, source + code indexing, overview modes, and navigation based on language + specific units like functions and blocks. It is also possible to + invoke the compiler from within Emacs and easily move between + compiler output and corresponding positions in the source. +

+

+ Emacs has multiple modules which provide further functionality: + read mail and news, browse pictures, view man and info pages, + browse the web, use a calendar and project planner, invoke the + debugger, execute arbitrary programs, and more, without leaving + the editor. Complete built-in documentation is included, including + a tutorial for new users. Unicode and nearly all human languages + and their scripts are supported. +

+ + + http://in.waw.pl/~zbyszek/fedora/emacs-two-buffers.png + http://in.waw.pl/~zbyszek/fedora/emacs-editing-xml.png + http://in.waw.pl/~zbyszek/fedora/emacs-hexl-mode.png + http://in.waw.pl/~zbyszek/fedora/emacs-showing-svg.png + http://in.waw.pl/~zbyszek/fedora/emacs-with-python-source.png http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs emacs-devel_at_gnu.org -- 1.9.3 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 13 05:16:59 2020 Received: (at 19139) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Aug 2020 09:16:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46896 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k69M3-0004U3-JL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 05:16:59 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:54884) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k69M0-0004Nx-NR for 19139@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 05:16:58 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=j5ZeZp7Pqoo0SFwLZ92+n8bOqpscjoUCqSxCyTP8rfs=; b=gcLVKxUEJkgA5qu6r1iWtZ4xFq FW+YeiyTFKX+jHUyBW7q3kHNB0hGmczwd+Y4yP0W+aDEtVCUGVBkK8XgQU5P1B/Lbbw4g8iyiNg7P 8TsKC4OVa0QggKAA06zJcxLuahRXZOFNFCTzL48Gm5smK3LhHTxrWor24da6gltQsyck=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k69Li-0004N0-0r; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 11:16:49 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Zbigniew =?utf-8?Q?J=C4=99drzejewski-Szmek?= Subject: Re: bug#19139: [PATCH] * etc/emacs.appdata.xml: Extend the description References: <1416583971-8733-1-git-send-email-zbyszek@in.waw.pl> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 11:16:36 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1416583971-8733-1-git-send-email-zbyszek@in.waw.pl> ("Zbigniew =?utf-8?Q?J=C4=99drzejewski-Szmek=22's?= message of "Fri, 21 Nov 2014 16:32:51 +0100") Message-ID: <87d03uhpmz.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: (This was posted five years ago, but unfortunately got no attention at the time.) Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek writes: > This extends the description to be easier to understand for > users who have no idea what emacs is, and are trying to pick > out an editor out of a list. Therefore it concentrates less > on lisp and [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19139 Cc: Petr Hracek , Richard Hughes , 19139@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) (This was posted five years ago, but unfortunately got no attention at the time.) Zbigniew J=C4=99drzejewski-Szmek writes: > This extends the description to be easier to understand for > users who have no idea what emacs is, and are trying to pick > out an editor out of a list. Therefore it concentrates less > on lisp and extensibility, but more on features and functionality > and describes them more verbosely. > > There are also more screenshots, showing actual use, so people > can see the editor in action in various modes. I'm not sure that we can actually include any screenshots in this file? It would be brittle to refer to external images, anyway... > - An extensible text editor > + Edit text files, view pictures and binary files I'm not sure that's a more understandable description... > - GNU Emacs is an extensible, customizable text editor - and more. > - At its core is an interpreter for Emacs Lisp, a dialect of the Lisp > - programming language with extensions to support text editing. > + Emacs is a powerful, customizable, self-documenting, modeless > + editor. It is used primarely to edit text, including text > + documents, source code of programs, web pages and XML documents, > + but can also be used to display and edit binary files. (etc) I actually the original text here -- I'm not sure "modeless" is a selling point, especially as you can just switch evil mode on and get a modeful editor. 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