From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:16:04 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 19076 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 19076@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.141622268731243 (code B ref -1); Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:12:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2014 11:11:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35793 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XqKDN-00087m-PF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 06:11:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49939) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XqKDJ-00087T-Jy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 06:11:23 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqKDD-0003PK-7y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 06:11:21 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:48491) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqKDD-0003PE-4Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 06:11:15 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51633) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqKD7-0007so-AG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 06:11:15 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqKD1-00037k-NG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 06:11:09 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:57339) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqKD1-00034n-9R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 06:11:03 -0500 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1XqKCe-0002cO-Cb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 12:10:40 +0100 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen X-Now-Playing: The Cure's _Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me_ X-Hashcash: 1:23:141117:bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org::yxYDypFbr8YOVn3G:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000JL5R Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 12:10:40 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1XqKCe-0002cO-Cb X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1416827441.01194@Hj2KlaAlxj4llONtbfMxKw X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) I have the following in my .Xdefaults file: emacs.verticalScrollBars: off When I start Emacs up, the initial frame comes up with no mode line and no echo area, so it's impossible to see what happens when I type `M-x ...', for instance. In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.16 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw scroll bars) of 2014-11-17 on stories Repository revision: 8b98d158a75b94b80d17b3af3419b3163c64945c Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10707000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 7.6 (wheezy) Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GSETTINGS NOTIFY GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE LIBOTF XFT ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US locale-coding-system: iso-latin-1-unix Major mode: Group Minor modes in effect: gnus-topic-mode: t gnus-undo-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t Recent messages: Wrote /home/larsi/.emacs Undo! Saving file /home/larsi/.emacs... Wrote /home/larsi/.emacs Auto-saving... 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text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process gfilenotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 518841 24321) (symbols 48 162510 0) (miscs 40 103 605) (strings 32 199984 4616) (string-bytes 1 7411713) (vectors 16 33719) (vector-slots 8 1570270 240113) (floats 8 6579 284) (intervals 56 3958 1386) (buffers 976 32) (heap 1024 73533 3596)) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:16:04 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 07:53:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19076 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , 19076@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 19076-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19076.14162971363502 (code B ref 19076); Tue, 18 Nov 2014 07:53:01 +0000 Received: (at 19076) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2014 07:52:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36787 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XqdaC-0000uP-05 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 02:52:16 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:61828) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xqda9-0000uH-QE for 19076@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 02:52:14 -0500 Received: from [88.117.87.150] ([88.117.87.150]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MXZw6-1XV4S30Kk2-00WW5H; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 08:52:05 +0100 Message-ID: <546AFAA1.5060100@gmx.at> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 08:52:01 +0100 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:c7aSBu8V6kUZJiAEAoRnnk291UozBZjvWVYwzVRFCvWWoytgCDN z1DsQXfdejnJX5ukl4jK8HHsKMbE6FZPm93rL2my715BUgBclVyI4SjT0MELCJs10g0sTlr b0x86tADk+y5Y+ayVAbolOQxLgSNA3OhXkDW46L3hxXae69+2kbIyyQmyTDrgCTFQVPljC8 RDob9V6PeZv/1i9Z5tTkQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) > I have the following in my .Xdefaults file: > > emacs.verticalScrollBars: off > > When I start Emacs up, the initial frame comes up with no mode line and > no echo area, so it's impossible to see what happens when I type > `M-x ...', for instance. With emacs -Q? Do you have a vague idea when this happened for the first time? In any case please insert (window--dump-frame) in your *scratch* buffer, evaluate it, and post the contents of *window-frame-dump* buffer here. Thank you, martin From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:16:04 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 12:39:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19076 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: 19076@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 19076-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19076.141631431313338 (code B ref 19076); Tue, 18 Nov 2014 12:39:01 +0000 Received: (at 19076) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2014 12:38:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36902 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xqi3F-0003T4-2R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 07:38:33 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:46697) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xqi3B-0003Su-Ni for 19076@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 07:38:31 -0500 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Xqi2s-0003RX-Nj; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 13:38:10 +0100 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen References: <546AFAA1.5060100@gmx.at> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEW61s2akn/T/vJWGi8/ QTSJbV8IAwsxDhp/E/MZAAACKklEQVQ4jVXTO2/bMBAAYFKwO4uJiK6MgOwNCNdrgh7FtYJ41RxU IefAtfj3e0fbEX1ejPvIO74k4ntf4jmdlZBqFGpUiBjEDZ6SUxRaacSc3QaGAINDheMIkO8A/2SH I6JSdak+47zQJAIS1REIY4Tpe48WqQF3Hi8gdbvXqg2cwKuNZYYUUsq2o7zWYyu5UplxaSEYlH4R Uk/3sOORk2330+GlAmM6mvB4zDmf8CAuYIQQzRMQ+JhP1h6skBvsaUFzztYWELuvHnukNOXzBrS9 xgiJ018afSylWtEV4JAafx5ticPxCjS+b57G6ZonUHLbh/k95RvYGnpVYCrw+w7mk73Fjxr2j19w eqnhebKKCx3pdw+zbeUv3iFBdbrGzYdWa4KcTp8VPIv5U7V7KrUm+1ZB239/V4JnJGtHtb2Sh/7b xyiDzfFkD0rXsDsr9CnSUdIV+68bbHoJ4GNMnEeswIgO4tlzA41AsDzcIEB0I78dBFgJXMPSGIlD An7yAf6tkQDeSnMjuyH5DPTU8xALwGvZhyGAS0SGD/CeRPYirAmQYyiwdOCBjqQRMwP1mGOBuILP DV2tpESgZel4hRhzfm36jivQF6WGDWLKTnRn+uMAu1hBHMhoLQsCDnewZKofI60U/R0kGNKwLhAw QN1jCTSWgPNQz3AMeXCO/VKiwMIDYTsOilDgo4IQaR3xfVfgjW6GwwM4D3mNkb/zVFbJkfnQ6bPi Rfr/susSamWqd0cAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Arto Lindsay's _Mundo Civilizado_: "Erotic City" X-Hashcash: 1:23:141118:19076@debbugs.gnu.org::OiKf6C1yPPrvKlRN:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000Wvoy X-Hashcash: 1:23:141118:rudalics@gmx.at::JZ5Sy2x1Ip0dK1zt:00aV2U Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 13:38:10 +0100 In-Reply-To: <546AFAA1.5060100@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Tue, 18 Nov 2014 08:52:01 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1Xqi2s-0003RX-Nj X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1416919091.74595@Rk9dHaFdhHgEV7HCcbba8Q X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) martin rudalics writes: >> I have the following in my .Xdefaults file: >> >> emacs.verticalScrollBars: off >> >> When I start Emacs up, the initial frame comes up with no mode line and >> no echo area, so it's impossible to see what happens when I type >> `M-x ...', for instance. > > With emacs -Q? With emacs -Q it ignores X defaults, too, so it doesn't happen there. But it does happen with -q. > Do you have a vague idea when this happened for the first time? I think... like... three weeks ago, perhaps? Two weeks? > In any case please insert (window--dump-frame) in your *scratch* buffer, > evaluate it, and post the contents of *window-frame-dump* buffer here. Hm. I can't see to reproduce this on this display. I'll do the dump-frame thing tomorrow at work. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:16:04 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 15:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19076 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, 19076@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 19076-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19076.1416326324711 (code B ref 19076); Tue, 18 Nov 2014 15:59:01 +0000 Received: (at 19076) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2014 15:58:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37411 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XqlAu-0000BI-4s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 10:58:44 -0500 Received: from mtaout28.012.net.il ([80.179.55.184]:38853) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XqlAo-0000B6-39 for 19076@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 10:58:38 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout28.012.net.il by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NF800900S55VT00@mtaout28.012.net.il> for 19076@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:55:58 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NF800NQ5S99WDA0@mtaout28.012.net.il>; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:55:58 +0200 (IST) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:58:27 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83oas4a4bg.fsf@gnu.org> References: <546AFAA1.5060100@gmx.at> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen > Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 13:38:10 +0100 > Cc: 19076@debbugs.gnu.org > > > Do you have a vague idea when this happened for the first time? > > I think... like... three weeks ago, perhaps? Two weeks? Do you per chance have old src/emacs-25.0.50.xx binaries from past builds, which you could try to find when it started? From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:16:04 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 19:41:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19076 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, 19076@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 19076-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19076.141633960421896 (code B ref 19076); Tue, 18 Nov 2014 19:41:03 +0000 Received: (at 19076) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2014 19:40:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37547 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xqod6-0005gh-50 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:40:03 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:43560) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xqocz-0005gN-Fq for 19076@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:39:57 -0500 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Xqocf-0004NK-LY; Tue, 18 Nov 2014 20:39:33 +0100 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen References: <546AFAA1.5060100@gmx.at> <83oas4a4bg.fsf@gnu.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEVUCQZ2hNYiSrgsWsiB j+AiUMEyOochRa5Ua78+JkYlV8ext+p/frshAAACVklEQVQ4jV2RsYvbMBTG35pR1EOObg7qteNV BK7ZTDUUvCUIiqf2CopNtwzVdfSlNbotUFDOcwgUb4XQRf9c35PsnNMP4iTvp+97T8/g7PTKMsYS 6aWU3k+ZRSUZuJpNWVDCsvzkMza1dZJ7eKLjGZNB3ntJR04IyppAInNPUTIjr/QnCSEko/opgox5 TGVAhhBzkoGwXHo6DDQPKUQNrggkIU998zFIzvOQApAByBCd+wsiMwnjqh9hGDqPixl2Ab4UvOgW XXcQQmxt1FYIMK+tbeyD6g639J/KggT3dm63W9X99h+s6LrjQURB+0XxlSq6IKxuz2C9+TFXqjgq Ajf5KZJbePr6U6G6TvWWqBv4+10EcFTHWMcZFmq2hId3s5QjKQaD9++vjeHwyqRpylfBv8BPPTXG bFIFbj9D0iffJtg8+A5QOrxSms6Q1biQTJzHLW1TVncz/P0Sga37i4DWtnV6wz/2i2QvBC4AgSv1 o3YbfkMgz9hWHBY0H5S6bNz67Wpe0FBhMYtFBLZp97PVUaluLOphW3hQc7xiMQaNtmsNv8Ja/gON Nm27obVQ2gChbhCYNy4NoIhLwy/s4bQ2lbuLhHSkxwCqfcq5GglBVWnd7jWuNOUXoHxsNWqN606f GQHbYtyuB4HwAHSJjgr2lIWKhmVwWKSVi28ujrD8hgC37voeJt5zya81tFXrqrbRff+QZh41AhJM 6BlNqApz4IoQkCK4t8bswBn4BJNdqMOEOn32vtEO28KzMA6H838qpy9BaBcPDOlnD+z6A5NLMDgJ /wMkj6k13s4WlAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Talking Heads's _Once In A Lifetime (3)_: "Lifetime Piling Up" X-Hashcash: 1:23:141118:rudalics@gmx.at::OiVXPvTXkMET9tRR:000B9S X-Hashcash: 1:23:141118:eliz@gnu.org::95Eg+0nspdBFVNxF:00000uJR8 X-Hashcash: 1:23:141118:19076@debbugs.gnu.org::OmNahUpwdhguMd0I:00000000000000000000000000000000000000016xkI Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 20:39:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83oas4a4bg.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:58:27 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/24.4.51 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1Xqocf-0004NK-LY X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1416944373.73228@SW44/nMPmvvVxkgpaSinPg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen >> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 13:38:10 +0100 >> Cc: 19076@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> > Do you have a vague idea when this happened for the first time? >> >> I think... like... three weeks ago, perhaps? Two weeks? > > Do you per chance have old src/emacs-25.0.50.xx binaries from past > builds, which you could try to find when it started? Good idea. Let's see... Yes, I do. I'll give them a try tomorrow at the office machine and see whether I can reproduce it there. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:16:04 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:06:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19076 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: 19076@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 19076-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19076.141640233311030 (code B ref 19076); Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:06:02 +0000 Received: (at 19076) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2014 13:05:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37936 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xr4wv-0002rp-8z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 08:05:33 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:51693) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xr4wt-0002re-CE for 19076@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 08:05:32 -0500 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Xr4wb-0003i3-De; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:05:13 +0100 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen References: <546AFAA1.5060100@gmx.at> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAFVBMVEUjBhX59vD8/PwJAQmC UFHUvav36dJoJcG2AAACPUlEQVQ4jV2UsZLjIBBE5w588aK6VS7VSjFV2DllDY5tL5DLJfj/T7hG QrZvyczTTPc0BlJNj6WEMSSu1hhzKr/7jjYwYMdZD2x08w6+sCHdUirMfS15Ack35QngvIF1v/8w xjql2tLs1zv4NpqianP63tUrmCAxF3Dd1TcwQuKgsBLvItRXt8wuZ8+8T7IBmLLMl0U6B3V9fwEh OMa4BB/MTyBhNquc/gfDZKCds1KLkUI2L7tWYLycVHs1+hjnFwjWzQBznszxpvLjCT4tR4CchIn4 Ij6qRj9IGefE+WqOGSvddzAyxRCit+aYUgh+d9V3EFnYOmtOOQfPVaPr+9RyZkbqFzSyVIGCekyX NsJszHOy4r6DToXMMYhNW5gdlDjmq0Ycf4qnFRTpXPbbNab4BKt4nksHHOsxFTBV0JVcEdWCTglR YsxakVNsIBMtxYSW0e+g95cGZaH0AwhenCv44gKWorwOPv2uoLMP1bZFOEcAaU977MO8ztLCEjK0 RHdqxjyjBT5PnyEmZBz4SkJSM+Dg5tSGkJML6yImcaytumI/SZSG4AQjswrGtgBdSrwT9AJ5KcBo dp7kpMmcSK2dsofPpdweC2DIHDYwBEzHiJckEZWb6LZW6db6IHBO+gfwj8TeOFwfqmBrNboRbsyh ArNWrOA2hE/8pSaIbBU6AKh+bP5eKtAbOAA0RcWfcfk1xMvLAeDCZhfqflnfC2lLMwo7cH1Yiqhm iyX5CZpe2dXNtvQT9Nsz8gb+ATyq4jQ3pEOOAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Lori Carson's _Everything I Touch Runs Wild (1)_: "Something's Got Me" X-Hashcash: 1:23:141119:19076@debbugs.gnu.org::Xq1NkTf194jPtnAV:00000000000000000000000000000000000000001qou X-Hashcash: 1:23:141119:rudalics@gmx.at::5NdZcke3/7JySeWL:004kz3 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:05:12 +0100 In-Reply-To: <546AFAA1.5060100@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Tue, 18 Nov 2014 08:52:01 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1Xr4wb-0003i3-De X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1417007113.59233@Ainl7H9xbwieORvR7LMGKQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) martin rudalics writes: > In any case please insert (window--dump-frame) in your *scratch* buffer, > evaluate it, and post the contents of *window-frame-dump* buffer here. Here it is, starting with "emacs -q" from trunk, with no mode line or echo area: frame pixel: 596 x 1182 cols/lines: 85 x 88 units: 7 x 13 frame text pixel: 578 x 1144 cols/lines: 82 x 88 tool: 36 scroll: 0/0 fringe: 16 border: 1 right: 0 bottom: 0 # parent: nil pixel left: 0 top: 36 size: 594 x 1131 new: 0 char left: 0 top: 3 size: 84 x 87 new: 0 normal: 1.0 x 1.0 new: 0 body pixel: 578 x 1118 char: 82 x 86 width left fringe: 8 left margin: 0 right margin: 0 width right fringe: 8 scroll-bar: 0 divider: 0 height header-line: 0 mode-line: 13 divider: 0 # parent: nil pixel left: 0 top: 1167 size: 594 x 13 new: 0 char left: 0 top: 90 size: 594 x 1 new: 0 normal: 1.0 x 1.0 new: 0 body pixel: 578 x 13 char: 82 x 1 width left fringe: 8 left margin: 0 right margin: 0 width right fringe: 8 scroll-bar: 0 divider: 0 height header-line: 0 mode-line: 0 divider: 0 -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:16:04 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:19:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19076 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 19076@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 19076-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19076.141640311412254 (code B ref 19076); Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:19:02 +0000 Received: (at 19076) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2014 13:18:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37945 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xr59S-0003BW-9G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 08:18:33 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:46535) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xr59M-0003BI-MJ for 19076@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 08:18:28 -0500 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Xr593-0003xs-4y; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:18:05 +0100 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen References: <546AFAA1.5060100@gmx.at> <83oas4a4bg.fsf@gnu.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAFVBMVEUjBhX59vD8/PwJAQmC UFHUvav36dJoJcG2AAACPUlEQVQ4jV2UsZLjIBBE5w588aK6VS7VSjFV2DllDY5tL5DLJfj/T7hG QrZvyczTTPc0BlJNj6WEMSSu1hhzKr/7jjYwYMdZD2x08w6+sCHdUirMfS15Ack35QngvIF1v/8w xjql2tLs1zv4NpqianP63tUrmCAxF3Dd1TcwQuKgsBLvItRXt8wuZ8+8T7IBmLLMl0U6B3V9fwEh OMa4BB/MTyBhNquc/gfDZKCds1KLkUI2L7tWYLycVHs1+hjnFwjWzQBznszxpvLjCT4tR4CchIn4 Ij6qRj9IGefE+WqOGSvddzAyxRCit+aYUgh+d9V3EFnYOmtOOQfPVaPr+9RyZkbqFzSyVIGCekyX NsJszHOy4r6DToXMMYhNW5gdlDjmq0Ycf4qnFRTpXPbbNab4BKt4nksHHOsxFTBV0JVcEdWCTglR YsxakVNsIBMtxYSW0e+g95cGZaH0AwhenCv44gKWorwOPv2uoLMP1bZFOEcAaU977MO8ztLCEjK0 RHdqxjyjBT5PnyEmZBz4SkJSM+Dg5tSGkJML6yImcaytumI/SZSG4AQjswrGtgBdSrwT9AJ5KcBo dp7kpMmcSK2dsofPpdweC2DIHDYwBEzHiJckEZWb6LZW6db6IHBO+gfwj8TeOFwfqmBrNboRbsyh ArNWrOA2hE/8pSaIbBU6AKh+bP5eKtAbOAA0RcWfcfk1xMvLAeDCZhfqflnfC2lLMwo7cH1Yiqhm iyX5CZpe2dXNtvQT9Nsz8gb+ATyq4jQ3pEOOAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Lori Carson's _Everything I Touch Runs Wild (1)_: "Something's Got Me" X-Hashcash: 1:23:141119:19076@debbugs.gnu.org::rlWDmUcyae7Pax4A:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000Ep72 X-Hashcash: 1:23:141119:eliz@gnu.org::RqaL9IYBB4fpN21F:00000HYq1 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:18:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83oas4a4bg.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:58:27 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1Xr593-0003xs-4y X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1417007885.3975@p8NJNMBJgffwKWA0/Xzkgg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen >> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 13:38:10 +0100 >> Cc: 19076@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> > Do you have a vague idea when this happened for the first time? >> >> I think... like... three weeks ago, perhaps? Two weeks? > > Do you per chance have old src/emacs-25.0.50.xx binaries from past > builds, which you could try to find when it started? I "bisected" it down to these two from the backup disk: -rwxr-xr-x 1 larsi larsi 30251403 Sep 18 20:03 /mirror/home/larsi/src/emacs/trunk/src/emacs-24.4.50.10 -rwxr-xr-x 1 larsi larsi 30151900 Aug 25 18:04 /mirror/home/larsi/src/emacs/trunk/src/emacs-24.4.50.9 emacs-24.4.50.9 is OK, and emacs-24.4.50.10 is not, so it happened between Aug 25 and Sep 18. Which is longer ago than I thought. emacs-24.4.50.9 doesn't seem to respond to emacs.verticalScrollBars: off at all -- it shows the vertical scroll bar (in addition to the mode line and echo area). So perhaps the code that reacts to emacs.verticalScrollBars also did something with those two? It may also be geometry sensitive, since I'm not able to reproduce this on a different screen. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:16:04 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19076 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Cc: 19076@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 19076-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19076.141641239032493 (code B ref 19076); Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:54:02 +0000 Received: (at 19076) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2014 15:53:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38446 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xr7Z7-0008S0-MZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 10:53:09 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:55407) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xr7Z5-0008Ru-Sy for 19076@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 10:53:08 -0500 Received: from [62.47.138.79] ([62.47.138.79]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MGFz9-1XmOT01v9j-00FFfP; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 16:53:05 +0100 Message-ID: <546CBCDC.6020602@gmx.at> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 16:53:00 +0100 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <546AFAA1.5060100@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:waVOYluu2Ggdf/jSycs/JQXHt8xuemi/ehBGVymkETSrvnHRi3j 9pXMi6lDtrjcD9v791KPCSfAFxxUwIDn3DyrqAp6iuW9saKnLU8emn478/AmK3toTyYBRvZ Dgy7BrM6hWcTWK/lyfrsvsLoEMAVVDQ4NSEB11ikHzE/SxqxBnn3MefaFDr3ArdTrhpb10O ODiQJmWBnWKW/Xm/DucDQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) > frame pixel: 596 x 1182 cols/lines: 85 x 88 units: 7 x 13 > frame text pixel: 578 x 1144 cols/lines: 82 x 88 > tool: 36 scroll: 0/0 fringe: 16 border: 1 right: 0 bottom: 0 > > # parent: nil > pixel left: 0 top: 36 size: 594 x 1131 new: 0 > char left: 0 top: 3 size: 84 x 87 new: 0 > normal: 1.0 x 1.0 new: 0 > body pixel: 578 x 1118 char: 82 x 86 > width left fringe: 8 left margin: 0 right margin: 0 > width right fringe: 8 scroll-bar: 0 divider: 0 > height header-line: 0 mode-line: 13 divider: 0 > > # parent: nil > pixel left: 0 top: 1167 size: 594 x 13 new: 0 > char left: 0 top: 90 size: 594 x 1 new: 0 > normal: 1.0 x 1.0 new: 0 > body pixel: 578 x 13 char: 82 x 1 > width left fringe: 8 left margin: 0 right margin: 0 > width right fringe: 8 scroll-bar: 0 divider: 0 > height header-line: 0 mode-line: 0 divider: 0 These values look completely normal. Please tell me also the value returned by (x-frame-geometry). Do mode line and echo area reappear when you change the frame size or split a window? martin From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:16:04 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 10:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19076 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: 19076@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 19076-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19076.14164784491597 (code B ref 19076); Thu, 20 Nov 2014 10:15:02 +0000 Received: (at 19076) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2014 10:14:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39081 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XrOkb-0000Pg-H9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 05:14:09 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:38032) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XrOkZ-0000PY-9e for 19076@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 05:14:08 -0500 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1XrOkG-0007Sw-Eg; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 11:13:48 +0100 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen References: <546AFAA1.5060100@gmx.at> <546CBCDC.6020602@gmx.at> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEW+hI/3qpX4o4zumor1 wM4xJTUQCxd5WnQed2KMAAACbklEQVQ4jU2UzZLbIAzH1awTn7H7ADW8QGoOvaYZZXxNdyJ4gQJX NmPM61dAvF2Nk7H1++sDLAxKsqlZSi2/mNKg1FwZg7kKdqDV+e0MP0etRyHULKoNUoNUG5HDG5GJ NiVCSOmDJaBkcsbhEozrc4QVb7F/F8PI4OSNicvduO5kw9rdjvQsNSQD5yxmpmYlXPF4v3IXoHXy 3rtHJJuN7TF2GN9lKT4fo/HWgnEpOVhWvIQn98vt5u7knCPvify6dOsSrlMBc0Tuy/NlvL/3EHt7 5aVy8e8X9pQ6R+8zHQPlZwFi6JM3rPf15zLnfJdawSC3ok7ehs27Gur/lOJy3loici2jT+ZDynPZ q+L2lvyt1qfEKy9AtggqvnUzxpGp62ggEVCwiJelRB2kKODEWtis9S4iYqJHvLaIX54sJmt45Qwu 6YFXORSQkr2w0vtAKxPsdgAP9mNMxoQHVnul4nAAytwW/X2B6QVKokdpLnxG/Gigwy0UQNUPn6Dv 8HZn4KCBg1TnBhBv1ia/4g72VAyMXXy9u8QGlAToEJd+RYu1wXt/KO3yoLBV7Z1HBCDbfKhTIgFe yLIc+pwZqLpyfqggsJz9KR/ayoumBoUq34GooJKQq1EDQwNM+lDUmbfsKYY9VTWX82bLRDSgSlr3 +mvv/9l2N/Fh8obYGXJqQMqxgjo2ZX6pjdZTqYmB3u0ML3vTvFHy84TP/0/5LAV8eWaPHIZ2J0qE nKbikxM7RQFCigYK0/pNj+eDVrOeJ/4EAOMKIB76c3+A+I2vSYw7KDZwsqmqhjq7r2rsHyZRbuQk BgGjGPUXq9+Y7yh+/wOeJBMoWvgS/gAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Martin Finke's _Cast In Old Cast Iron_: "Cast In Old Cast Iron" X-Hashcash: 1:23:141120:19076@debbugs.gnu.org::Ia+Up1rKIwE3Uqoe:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000RyW9 X-Hashcash: 1:23:141120:rudalics@gmx.at::grzFVFklm1NtD5yg:00XnBN Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 11:13:48 +0100 In-Reply-To: <546CBCDC.6020602@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Wed, 19 Nov 2014 16:53:00 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1XrOkG-0007Sw-Eg X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1417083229.41356@6iM6yaGpplbGhjZf0rWlMA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) martin rudalics writes: > These values look completely normal. Please tell me also the value > returned by (x-frame-geometry). ((frame-position 0 . 0) (frame-outer-size 598 . 1184) (external-border-size 1 . 1) (title-height . 0) (menu-bar-external) (menu-bar-size 0 . 0) (tool-bar-external) (tool-bar-position . top) (tool-bar-size 596 . 36) (frame-inner-size 596 . 1146)) > Do mode line and echo area reappear when you change the frame size or > split a window? If I resize the frame, the mode line and echo area reappears. If I just split a window, the uppermost window gets a mode line, but there's still no mode line or echo area in the bottom window. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:16:04 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 16:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19076 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Cc: 19076@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 19076-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19076.14164994417914 (code B ref 19076); Thu, 20 Nov 2014 16:04:02 +0000 Received: (at 19076) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2014 16:04:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39668 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XrUDA-00023Z-QS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 11:04:01 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:56757) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XrUD8-00023R-QJ for 19076@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 11:04:00 -0500 Received: from [178.190.161.43] ([178.190.161.43]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lcjgd-1YGgk005dX-00k4H7; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:03:55 +0100 Message-ID: <546E10E2.8060903@gmx.at> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:03:46 +0100 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <546AFAA1.5060100@gmx.at> <546CBCDC.6020602@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090205060702040606030801" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:tVHIiBtp7sgX/0/7SNVRtuUSRPy0Jq5vCJazyHo4ZoOZoHozxD0 UBz1B5Tu3yk90YLH9aGZLN0T+zXJTxSsLNAdcsxAJ17lki4K64D/E4oI1+XP/ib8mUpWiaz PyOsKVDN81lsw53NfBEmPvHlDqb48KMJvpehe6G3G/1lEIteQw+hFJTaJ3SMLe3tTkoEn+t n7nQEeSsgbteyimnajn+A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090205060702040606030801 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > ((frame-position 0 . 0) (frame-outer-size 598 . 1184) (external-border-size 1 . 1) (title-height . 0) (menu-bar-external) (menu-bar-size 0 . 0) (tool-bar-external) (tool-bar-position . top) (tool-bar-size 596 . 36) (frame-inner-size 596 . 1146)) These values are as expected too. > If I resize the frame, the mode line and echo area reappears. If I just > split a window, the uppermost window gets a mode line, but there's still > no mode line or echo area in the bottom window. I see. Does the problem also appear when you turn the tool bar initially off? Do you use `desktop-save-mode'? If any of these is true, can you try the patch I proposed for Bug#19048 and which I attach here again. Thanks, martin --------------090205060702040606030801 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; name="x_set_tool_bar_lines.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="x_set_tool_bar_lines.patch" diff --git a/src/w32fns.c b/src/w32fns.c index 1b290b7..e514970 100644 --- a/src/w32fns.c +++ b/src/w32fns.c @@ -1721,15 +1721,7 @@ x_set_tool_bar_lines (struct frame *f, Lisp_Object value, Lisp_Object oldval) else nlines = 0; - if (nlines == 0) - x_change_tool_bar_height (f, nlines * FRAME_LINE_HEIGHT (f)); - else - { - f->n_tool_bar_rows = 0; - FRAME_TOOL_BAR_LINES (f) = nlines; - adjust_frame_glyphs (f); - SET_FRAME_GARBAGED (f); - } + x_change_tool_bar_height (f, nlines * FRAME_LINE_HEIGHT (f)); } @@ -1749,11 +1741,7 @@ x_change_tool_bar_height (struct frame *f, int height) /* Recalculate tool bar and frame text sizes. */ FRAME_TOOL_BAR_HEIGHT (f) = height; FRAME_TOOL_BAR_LINES (f) = lines; -/** FRAME_TEXT_HEIGHT (f) **/ -/** = FRAME_PIXEL_TO_TEXT_HEIGHT (f, FRAME_PIXEL_HEIGHT (f)); **/ -/** FRAME_LINES (f) **/ -/** = FRAME_PIXEL_HEIGHT_TO_TEXT_LINES (f, FRAME_PIXEL_HEIGHT (f)); **/ - /* Store the `tool-bar-lines' and `height' frame parameters. */ + /* Store `tool-bar-lines' and `height' frame parameters. */ store_frame_param (f, Qtool_bar_lines, make_number (lines)); store_frame_param (f, Qheight, make_number (FRAME_LINES (f))); @@ -1772,6 +1760,10 @@ x_change_tool_bar_height (struct frame *f, int height) adjust_frame_size (f, -1, -1, (old_height == 0 || height == 0) ? 2 : 4, 0, Qtool_bar_lines); + /* adjust_frame_size might not have done anything, garbage frame + here. */ + adjust_frame_glyphs (f); + SET_FRAME_GARBAGED (f); if (FRAME_X_WINDOW (f)) x_clear_under_internal_border (f); } diff --git a/src/xfns.c b/src/xfns.c index aaa75f2..59715d0 100644 --- a/src/xfns.c +++ b/src/xfns.c @@ -1075,19 +1075,7 @@ x_set_tool_bar_lines (struct frame *f, Lisp_Object value, Lisp_Object oldval) else nlines = 0; -#ifdef USE_GTK x_change_tool_bar_height (f, nlines * FRAME_LINE_HEIGHT (f)); -#else /* !USE_GTK */ - if (nlines == 0) - x_change_tool_bar_height (f, nlines * FRAME_LINE_HEIGHT (f)); - else - { - f->n_tool_bar_rows = 0; - FRAME_TOOL_BAR_LINES (f) = nlines; - adjust_frame_glyphs (f); - SET_FRAME_GARBAGED (f); - } -#endif /* USE_GTK */ } @@ -1124,10 +1112,6 @@ x_change_tool_bar_height (struct frame *f, int height) /* Recalculate tool bar and frame text sizes. */ FRAME_TOOL_BAR_HEIGHT (f) = height; FRAME_TOOL_BAR_LINES (f) = lines; -/** FRAME_TEXT_HEIGHT (f) **/ -/** = FRAME_PIXEL_TO_TEXT_HEIGHT (f, FRAME_PIXEL_HEIGHT (f)); **/ -/** FRAME_LINES (f) **/ -/** = FRAME_PIXEL_HEIGHT_TO_TEXT_LINES (f, FRAME_PIXEL_HEIGHT (f)); **/ /* Store the `tool-bar-lines' and `height' frame parameters. */ store_frame_param (f, Qtool_bar_lines, make_number (lines)); store_frame_param (f, Qheight, make_number (FRAME_LINES (f))); @@ -1153,6 +1137,10 @@ x_change_tool_bar_height (struct frame *f, int height) adjust_frame_size (f, -1, -1, (old_height == 0 || height == 0) ? 2 : 4, 0, Qtool_bar_lines); + /* adjust_frame_size might not have done anything, garbage frame + here. */ + adjust_frame_glyphs (f); + SET_FRAME_GARBAGED (f); if (FRAME_X_WINDOW (f)) x_clear_under_internal_border (f); --------------090205060702040606030801-- From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:16:04 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 13:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19076 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: 19076@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 19076-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19076.141709494430057 (code B ref 19076); Thu, 27 Nov 2014 13:30:02 +0000 Received: (at 19076) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Nov 2014 13:29:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47064 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xtz83-0007oh-I3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 08:29:03 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:60228) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xtz80-0007oH-GE for 19076@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 08:29:01 -0500 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Xtz7h-0002W4-CT; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 14:28:41 +0100 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen References: <546AFAA1.5060100@gmx.at> <546CBCDC.6020602@gmx.at> <546E10E2.8060903@gmx.at> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAElBMVEViYlIuNC0RFxeinYQE BQXj5txWTOCpAAACTUlEQVQ4jXWTUXIjIQxEG0j+Jcb7jxQOwISd/3iKA3jX5ftfZRtP2clWdqmU g3nQUksyxnNtt68L/wUf7YWHePn+4iciPz7KdxBbqi3+/g5emoxV2gGufev9AKfTKQzR8wFaSw/w V1apXVtPc4f+XFMI2C4pzS3+iniJmpr8A/zKKkE19e0ruG4tOM8TFnwFWxd1hVIJPX2C1nm5UEbf rqG3J+AX0Vg0LiIbo/cHuIS+UsqCSF7oJDxACwiaGSRjxZau+gB3fUtrzssl3egfjxBqfPB6CWdd Wtpa+gSaB20Ht4V1WdNTKkStipBVFaWvz6wYGydVmYow1uQhxYuaA0HIrk4v6AcAr6qZxWwGg26Y lZxVnuLunofRzaILbusrz3vINOgudbiPYQG4vW+cgL46kH3sbDHfjVKY8iuBwGSCsdedem4JKc2Z 0Txj1H23fM9vOXw0XnYmOnYmIJiJJBzTxNdclMlq0jKYFXPabvP4nCllJiW0JlHAEP327rtLr3Wf HoEu7wV3rXcmiBTH7mfGki6r4Y1J3X6NwS41pwcroTTOBT626x14Qcz0wSgSBAr/caF7nkhavfK/ W0aSArOc00sd1aXpBLla6ZEFPrHgLEQdxr7ywdj3t0YpqXoo3MFu02WhC7AB9+MxzrMwEuhSBRvq OcxKz0ezH6GdjM1Nnz+1o1bWWiUQArfZATf+afZa1jN3nAR4iHHJLJ17g/geShBF2uCxCBtZijsC 51qKBBokAFAiZKFAjGzwsnD2pGOOjB998jIbed9q+gMJHshbJ1bbSgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: The Ex's _Catch My Shoe_: "24 Problems" X-Hashcash: 1:23:141127:19076@debbugs.gnu.org::B/aVagv1L5NbBTei:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000AJQn X-Hashcash: 1:23:141127:rudalics@gmx.at::0010NMMpH6rACu8Z:00VqNc Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 14:28:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: <546E10E2.8060903@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:03:46 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1Xtz7h-0002W4-CT X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1417699721.75177@D39paDxvbmBnoALs48z5ZQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) martin rudalics writes: >> If I resize the frame, the mode line and echo area reappears. If I just >> split a window, the uppermost window gets a mode line, but there's still >> no mode line or echo area in the bottom window. > > I see. Does the problem also appear when you turn the tool bar > initially off? I'm not sure how to test that... > Do you use `desktop-save-mode'? If any of these is > true, can you try the patch I proposed for Bug#19048 and which I attach > here again. I don't use `desktop-save-mode'. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:16:04 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 13:32:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19076 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: 19076@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 19076-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19076.141709506330336 (code B ref 19076); Thu, 27 Nov 2014 13:32:01 +0000 Received: (at 19076) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Nov 2014 13:31:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47068 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xtz9z-0007tE-3p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 08:31:03 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:60263) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xtz9x-0007sp-8K for 19076@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 08:31:01 -0500 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Xtz9V-0002fX-1G; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 14:30:33 +0100 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen References: <546AFAA1.5060100@gmx.at> <546CBCDC.6020602@gmx.at> <546E10E2.8060903@gmx.at> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAElBMVEViYlIuNC0RFxeinYQE BQXj5txWTOCpAAACTUlEQVQ4jXWTUXIjIQxEG0j+Jcb7jxQOwISd/3iKA3jX5ftfZRtP2clWdqmU g3nQUksyxnNtt68L/wUf7YWHePn+4iciPz7KdxBbqi3+/g5emoxV2gGufev9AKfTKQzR8wFaSw/w V1apXVtPc4f+XFMI2C4pzS3+iniJmpr8A/zKKkE19e0ruG4tOM8TFnwFWxd1hVIJPX2C1nm5UEbf rqG3J+AX0Vg0LiIbo/cHuIS+UsqCSF7oJDxACwiaGSRjxZau+gB3fUtrzssl3egfjxBqfPB6CWdd Wtpa+gSaB20Ht4V1WdNTKkStipBVFaWvz6wYGydVmYow1uQhxYuaA0HIrk4v6AcAr6qZxWwGg26Y lZxVnuLunofRzaILbusrz3vINOgudbiPYQG4vW+cgL46kH3sbDHfjVKY8iuBwGSCsdedem4JKc2Z 0Txj1H23fM9vOXw0XnYmOnYmIJiJJBzTxNdclMlq0jKYFXPabvP4nCllJiW0JlHAEP327rtLr3Wf HoEu7wV3rXcmiBTH7mfGki6r4Y1J3X6NwS41pwcroTTOBT626x14Qcz0wSgSBAr/caF7nkhavfK/ W0aSArOc00sd1aXpBLla6ZEFPrHgLEQdxr7ywdj3t0YpqXoo3MFu02WhC7AB9+MxzrMwEuhSBRvq OcxKz0ezH6GdjM1Nnz+1o1bWWiUQArfZATf+afZa1jN3nAR4iHHJLJ17g/geShBF2uCxCBtZijsC 51qKBBokAFAiZKFAjGzwsnD2pGOOjB998jIbed9q+gMJHshbJ1bbSgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: The Ex's _Catch My Shoe_: "24 Problems" X-Hashcash: 1:23:141127:19076@debbugs.gnu.org::d9UGTbTXacyTiL2z:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000HB54 X-Hashcash: 1:23:141127:rudalics@gmx.at::IAz+sEfkl9ncrf7U:00Q0hY Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 14:30:32 +0100 In-Reply-To: <546E10E2.8060903@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:03:46 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1Xtz9V-0002fX-1G X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1417699834.93178@knY4VJBzava7qxeNAkDmYQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) martin rudalics writes: > I see. Does the problem also appear when you turn the tool bar > initially off? Do you use `desktop-save-mode'? If any of these is > true, can you try the patch I proposed for Bug#19048 and which I attach > here again. I tried applying the patch, but it doesn't seem to apply cleanly to the trunk any more. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:16:04 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 18:36:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19076 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Cc: 19076@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 19076-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19076.14171133586848 (code B ref 19076); Thu, 27 Nov 2014 18:36:01 +0000 Received: (at 19076) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Nov 2014 18:35:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47893 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xu3v4-0001mM-9B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 13:35:58 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:63868) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xu3v2-0001mE-9v for 19076@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 13:35:56 -0500 Received: from [188.22.37.213] ([188.22.37.213]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M3j17-1YBSFG0B6X-00rKXo; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 19:35:55 +0100 Message-ID: <54776F03.70701@gmx.at> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 19:35:47 +0100 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <546AFAA1.5060100@gmx.at> <546CBCDC.6020602@gmx.at> <546E10E2.8060903@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:Ie9zHS/nrm4gNrOPFPtnfm1N9AKG4UbPLHWxC6wC9JDM6vHLdFI AVrfb01ds1GiV2Ee+bK1u3Pzd2eFE297+dSAVJY3Wz51uCHCckx6uTf7CoQ/scCakdiGDQP Lq7dsCP/tYkVzH5mkhFKFvZIo9Cnt8D4hz+wnPZonHz7GMzrKl54idJ9tHcIm8GGtQErPTv nEDPyXsURwPRvyT7f3Kkw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) >> I see. Does the problem also appear when you turn the tool bar >> initially off? > > I'm not sure how to test that... If the problem occurs with your usual .emacs then simply turn `tool-bar-mode' off there. martin From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:16:04 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 18:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19076 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Cc: 19076@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 19076-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19076.14171133756919 (code B ref 19076); Thu, 27 Nov 2014 18:37:02 +0000 Received: (at 19076) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Nov 2014 18:36:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47899 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xu3vK-0001nX-IT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 13:36:14 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:63427) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xu3vI-0001nN-OS for 19076@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 13:36:13 -0500 Received: from [188.22.37.213] ([188.22.37.213]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MA8hF-1Xn8yl1Lej-00BI9F; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 19:36:06 +0100 Message-ID: <54776F10.7000807@gmx.at> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 19:36:00 +0100 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <546AFAA1.5060100@gmx.at> <546CBCDC.6020602@gmx.at> <546E10E2.8060903@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:0XP4XcqpiCfd1Giguromzkr75G3vApRnHamiA0tlSsh/FHxI98H 2VNAQzJ8EJDP/hHT78vn4ORx6NQ6C/olmQeo7rACVe6k7xug2PVBM0cB9i4erzKl2nRHWbq UgMHi3NResPnk7kENlpL29TLoVw3cj22zdLUrf3x9/3PPS352ZFGpJG0Ivh9WPrzO9F5LX2 zcEmEQV44URKDFoSdGpIQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) > I tried applying the patch, but it doesn't seem to apply cleanly to the > trunk any more. Because it's already in trunk. So if you still see the problem, the patch didn't help anyway. Could you try bisecting then? Sorry, I have no better idea. martin From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:16:04 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 18:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19076 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , 19076@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 19076-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19076.1423852093745 (code B ref 19076); Fri, 13 Feb 2015 18:29:02 +0000 Received: (at 19076) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Feb 2015 18:28:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42147 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YMKyK-0000Bw-Db for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:28:12 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:61582) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YMKyI-0000Bj-FV for 19076@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:28:10 -0500 Received: from [88.117.117.6] ([88.117.117.6]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LyR1G-1XYPhh0ImE-015siT; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 19:27:59 +0100 Message-ID: <54DE4225.1090006@gmx.at> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 19:27:49 +0100 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:1nd0x74prTy5jWKVpDqzKeODDsiR70iSLOWMl7sBIee8yBwMIeY e12BSWXWiOD/RoYsRW429RDY9FLtFnKkqGKvvtJSJZgBSwvACQRF57v12mgxTRlcvj9EbWq VNFnZBRkbfZdByRFR3010kjDE/3m1zCYxZ4pHkGYTsj3DDXupWkB1+lvs0ZLbZKZ1k6psdl 2R9wOXKw2Pb3cKReTojhA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) > I have the following in my .Xdefaults file: > > emacs.verticalScrollBars: off > > When I start Emacs up, the initial frame comes up with no mode line and > no echo area, so it's impossible to see what happens when I type > `M-x ...', for instance. Does this still happen? If so I'd like to tell you how to debug this. Thanks, martin From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:16:04 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 04:19:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19076 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: 19076@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 19076-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19076.14238874976028 (code B ref 19076); Sat, 14 Feb 2015 04:19:02 +0000 Received: (at 19076) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Feb 2015 04:18:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42499 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YMUBM-0001Z9-JW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 23:18:16 -0500 Received: from smtp.syd.comcen.com.au ([203.23.236.77]:2278) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YMUBK-0001Z0-DS for 19076@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 23:18:15 -0500 Received: from building.gnus.org ([27.96.197.126]) by smtp.syd.comcen.com.au (8.13.4/8.12.9) with ESMTP id t1E4H9S4032764; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 15:17:09 +1100 (EST) From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <54DE4225.1090006@gmx.at> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 15:17:04 +1100 In-Reply-To: <54DE4225.1090006@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Fri, 13 Feb 2015 19:27:49 +0100") Message-ID: <87bnkxi0u7.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-comcen-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-comcen-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-comcen-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=0.113, required 4, AWL 0.02, BAYES_40 -0.01, RDNS_NONE 0.10) X-comcen-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) martin rudalics writes: >> I have the following in my .Xdefaults file: >> >> emacs.verticalScrollBars: off >> >> When I start Emacs up, the initial frame comes up with no mode line and >> no echo area, so it's impossible to see what happens when I type >> `M-x ...', for instance. > > Does this still happen? If so I'd like to tell you how to debug this. It only seems to happen at certain geometries, so I'm unable to reproduce this on this screen. But I'll be back in the office next week and can try debugging it then. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:16:04 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: bug#19076: closed (Re: bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear) Message-ID: References: <87fux3yb5p.fsf@gnus.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 19076 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 19076@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2016 06:23:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1454912582-19333-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1454912582-19333-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and= buffer area disappear which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 19076@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 19076: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D19076 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1454912582-19333-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 19076-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2016 06:22:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37890 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aSfDP-00050n-6y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 01:22:28 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:49873) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aSfDK-00050c-Mx for 19076-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 01:22:26 -0500 Received: from cpe-60-225-211-161.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([60.225.211.161] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aSfCw-00047U-6m for 19076-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 07:21:58 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: 19076-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#19076: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear References: Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2016 17:21:54 +1100 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 17 Nov 2014 12:10:40 +0100") Message-ID: <87fux3yb5p.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1aSfCw-00047U-6m X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1455517319.09191@Idqy6lIgPr2Q8cgKQVRfnA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19076-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > I have the following in my .Xdefaults file: > > emacs.verticalScrollBars: off > > When I start Emacs up, the initial frame comes up with no mode line and > no echo area, so it's impossible to see what happens when I type > `M-x ...', for instance. I'm no longer seeing this, so I'm closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no ------------=_1454912582-19333-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2014 11:11:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35793 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XqKDN-00087m-PF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 06:11:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49939) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XqKDJ-00087T-Jy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 06:11:23 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqKDD-0003PK-7y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 06:11:21 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:48491) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqKDD-0003PE-4Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 06:11:15 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51633) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqKD7-0007so-AG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 06:11:15 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqKD1-00037k-NG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 06:11:09 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:57339) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XqKD1-00034n-9R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 06:11:03 -0500 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1XqKCe-0002cO-Cb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 12:10:40 +0100 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 25.0.50; Switching vertical scroll bars off makes the mode line and buffer area disappear X-Now-Playing: The Cure's _Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me_ X-Hashcash: 1:23:141117:bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org::yxYDypFbr8YOVn3G:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000JL5R Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 12:10:40 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1XqKCe-0002cO-Cb X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1416827441.01194@Hj2KlaAlxj4llONtbfMxKw X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) I have the following in my .Xdefaults file: emacs.verticalScrollBars: off When I start Emacs up, the initial frame comes up with no mode line and no echo area, so it's impossible to see what happens when I type `M-x ...', for instance. In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.16 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw scroll bars) of 2014-11-17 on stories Repository revision: 8b98d158a75b94b80d17b3af3419b3163c64945c Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10707000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 7.6 (wheezy) Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GSETTINGS NOTIFY GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE LIBOTF XFT ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US locale-coding-system: iso-latin-1-unix Major mode: Group Minor modes in effect: gnus-topic-mode: t gnus-undo-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t Recent messages: Wrote /home/larsi/.emacs Undo! Saving file /home/larsi/.emacs... Wrote /home/larsi/.emacs Auto-saving... 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