From unknown Fri Aug 15 21:24:26 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#19069: 25.0.50; loading help.elc tells Symbol's value as variable is void: < Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 15:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 19069 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 19069@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: Bug-Gnu-Emacs Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.14161508585207 (code B ref -1); Sun, 16 Nov 2014 15:15:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2014 15:14:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35441 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xq1Wr-0001Lv-Qx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 10:14:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37411) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xq1Wo-0001Lm-OJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 10:14:15 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xq1We-0006vD-I3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 10:14:14 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:56982) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xq1We-0006v9-Eu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 10:14:04 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39110) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xq1WW-0004tC-PP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 10:14:04 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xq1WM-0006tc-Kq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 10:13:56 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:55001) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xq1WM-0006tO-BT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 10:13:46 -0500 Received: from [178.190.163.170] ([178.190.163.170]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MLunc-1XtIFI2E84-007kEQ for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 16:13:44 +0100 Message-ID: <5468BF25.6040705@gmx.at> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 16:13:41 +0100 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:P1LqxTCcDm5phGTAoRi4VMLZjedIRe9AhDY0/VBy58iOGIEbFai ZxgavI6c6/QVNOxVMScXTCcSmBj5jljGpnnywLPQZa09iBeDtNXGX0NxdG5ak8L4lvLjtAy jt7q4FeU1edFl3/MHF1CDrwS/imV9PqInUbVgNKscysvG2XWqrLbJw8ZfPqpuD2tgLsYCd+ Q4vrzht1fJ7/OZirenCOw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) With today's trunk (load "~/lisp/help.elc") tells me load: Symbol's value as variable is void: < In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2014-11-16 on MACHNO Repository revision: 2444ac6de86b318763f0cc8b1de5fb757cb09170 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --prefix=/c/emacs-trunk --enable-checking=yes --enable-check-lisp-object-type=yes 'CFLAGS=-O0 -g3' CPPFLAGS=-DGLYPH_DEBUG=1' martin From unknown Fri Aug 15 21:24:26 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#19069: 25.0.50; loading help.elc tells Symbol's value as variable is void: < Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 15:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19069 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: 19069@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 19069-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19069.14161535259653 (code B ref 19069); Sun, 16 Nov 2014 15:59:01 +0000 Received: (at 19069) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2014 15:58:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35472 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xq2Dt-0002Vd-50 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 10:58:45 -0500 Received: from mtaout25.012.net.il ([80.179.55.181]:59084) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xq2Dq-0002VU-QD for 19069@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 10:58:43 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout25.012.net.il by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NF500A002O37P00@mtaout25.012.net.il> for 19069@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 17:54:17 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NF50047V2UHDW60@mtaout25.012.net.il>; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 17:54:17 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 17:58:29 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <5468BF25.6040705@gmx.at> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <8361efdtne.fsf@gnu.org> References: <5468BF25.6040705@gmx.at> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 16:13:41 +0100 > From: martin rudalics > > With today's trunk > > (load "~/lisp/help.elc") > > tells me > > load: Symbol's value as variable is void: < Not reproducible (unless ~/lisp/help.elc is something other than help.el from the trunk, byte-compiled). From unknown Fri Aug 15 21:24:26 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.503 (Entity 5.503) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: martin rudalics Subject: bug#19069: closed (Re: bug#19069: 25.0.50; loading help.elc tells Symbol's value as variable is void: <) Message-ID: References: <5468CD4C.9030301@gmx.at> <5468BF25.6040705@gmx.at> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 19069 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 19069@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 16:15:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1416154502-11238-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1416154502-11238-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #19069: 25.0.50; loading help.elc tells Symbol's value as variable is void:= < which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 19069@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 19069: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D19069 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1416154502-11238-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 19069-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2014 16:14:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35476 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xq2Sp-0002ty-Jr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 11:14:11 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:55544) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xq2Sm-0002to-ND for 19069-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 11:14:09 -0500 Received: from [178.190.163.170] ([178.190.163.170]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LiTJE-1YNzEX2pie-00chHZ; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 17:14:05 +0100 Message-ID: <5468CD4C.9030301@gmx.at> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 17:14:04 +0100 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#19069: 25.0.50; loading help.elc tells Symbol's value as variable is void: < References: <5468BF25.6040705@gmx.at> <8361efdtne.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <8361efdtne.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:GnY7m7+OlfOeHxSL72n7sRLugacuBT57tFTKOGrBw7RaDHrVcFO gteUHqPeK4HhuVSv9cQpr8A3GiV8TzIg54iZCPT02o3S0qKDvh/FnBCUXg3tCFH91bDH8FC 8JZ40FJSQCbr5Tm39kfO9gj3uLkviBspfDbG8MQOL1RZ49ylbzPt+w0tZ2l4eAKa6s2Jcc/ SQ9VndqTh45e2ZddqHE9w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 19069-done Cc: 19069-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) > Not reproducible (unless ~/lisp/help.elc is something other than > help.el from the trunk, byte-compiled). I did some changes to help.el, compiled them, reverted them, compiled again, and got this. It's probably some internal snafu with some macro. Closing this bug since it's probably my own fault. Thanks, martin ------------=_1416154502-11238-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2014 15:14:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35441 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xq1Wr-0001Lv-Qx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 10:14:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37411) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xq1Wo-0001Lm-OJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 10:14:15 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xq1We-0006vD-I3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 10:14:14 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:56982) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xq1We-0006v9-Eu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 10:14:04 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39110) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xq1WW-0004tC-PP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 10:14:04 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xq1WM-0006tc-Kq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 10:13:56 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:55001) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xq1WM-0006tO-BT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 10:13:46 -0500 Received: from [178.190.163.170] ([178.190.163.170]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MLunc-1XtIFI2E84-007kEQ for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 16:13:44 +0100 Message-ID: <5468BF25.6040705@gmx.at> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 16:13:41 +0100 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bug-Gnu-Emacs Subject: 25.0.50; loading help.elc tells Symbol's value as variable is void: < Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:P1LqxTCcDm5phGTAoRi4VMLZjedIRe9AhDY0/VBy58iOGIEbFai ZxgavI6c6/QVNOxVMScXTCcSmBj5jljGpnnywLPQZa09iBeDtNXGX0NxdG5ak8L4lvLjtAy jt7q4FeU1edFl3/MHF1CDrwS/imV9PqInUbVgNKscysvG2XWqrLbJw8ZfPqpuD2tgLsYCd+ Q4vrzht1fJ7/OZirenCOw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) With today's trunk (load "~/lisp/help.elc") tells me load: Symbol's value as variable is void: < In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2014-11-16 on MACHNO Repository revision: 2444ac6de86b318763f0cc8b1de5fb757cb09170 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --prefix=/c/emacs-trunk --enable-checking=yes --enable-check-lisp-object-type=yes 'CFLAGS=-O0 -g3' CPPFLAGS=-DGLYPH_DEBUG=1' martin ------------=_1416154502-11238-1--