From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 06 13:37:03 2014 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Nov 2014 18:37:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52057 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XmRva-0000kO-Cl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 13:37:02 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51032) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XmRvY-0000k1-Nr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 13:37:01 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XmRvO-0004ri-2f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 13:37:00 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:44511) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XmRvN-0004re-Vr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 13:36:50 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52726) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XmRvF-0002d1-4H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 13:36:49 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XmRv6-0004TH-CK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 13:36:41 -0500 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:24723) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XmRv6-0004Sk-4v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2014 13:36:32 -0500 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id sA6IaUaY001413 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 18:36:30 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id sA6IaRiV025764 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 18:36:28 GMT Received: from abhmp0006.oracle.com (abhmp0006.oracle.com [141.146.116.12]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id sA6IaRX8004250 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2014 18:36:27 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <3394deee-e886-4428-9491-2286fcbbcce2@default> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 10:36:27 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 25.0.50; Enhance (fix) incremental `indent-rigidly' X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) 1. Please consider adding this binding, so you can simply do `C-x TAB TAB...': (define-key indent-rigidly-map "\t" 'indent-rigidly-right). And update the doc string and prompt, of course. 2. You cannot currently provide a numeric prefix arg to `indent-rigidly' for incremental use. The incremental indentation you get is either 1=20 column (for ) or to the next tab stop (for ). It would be good to be able to use a numeric prefix arg interactively to indent not only once, but each time you hit . Ironically, this was possible before the Emacs 24.4 change to `indent-rigidly' which provided for incremental indenting, by just doing something like this: (defun repeat-command (command) "Repeat COMMAND." (let ((repeat-message-function 'ignore)) (setq last-repeatable-command command) (repeat nil))) (defun indent-rigidly-repeat (start end arg &optional interactive) "Indent all lines that start in the region. You can repeat this by hitting the last key (e.g., `TAB') again... A numeric prefix arg you provide to the command is used as the indentation increment." (interactive "r\nP\np") (require 'repeat nil t) (repeat-command 'indent-rigidly)) (global-set-key [remap indent-rigidly] 'indent-rigidly-repeat) Then `C-3 C-x TAB TAB...' indents 3 columns each time you hit `TAB'; `C-x TAB TAB...' indents 1 column for each `TAB'; and `C- 2 C-x TAB TAB...' outdents 2 columns for each `TAB'. Very handy. This design is simple, and it lets you use the same key, `TAB', to indent or outdent incrementally (outdent by using a negative prefix arg). As written above, this does not, however, provide the useful feature of a single undo for all repeated indenting, as does the current implementation of `indent-rigidly'. And it does not provide for indentation to tab stops. I am not proposing such a simple implementation as a replacement for the current one. This is the request: Could you please adapt `indent-rigidly' to provide similar behavior to that shown above: Instead of using a numeric prefix arg *only* for a single indentation, let users repeat indenting (or outdenting) in prefix-arg steps. 3. A related improvement would be to provide also the other advantage of the above code: Indenting/outdenting is *immediate* for `C-x TAB'. Currently, no indentation is done until you hit (or you use a prefix arg, which turns off incremental indenting). This means that currently you must hit at least 3 keys, `C-x TAB ' or `C-1 C-x TAB', to indent. You cannot hit just `C-x TAB', as you could prior to Emacs 24.4. (This is thus a minor regression in behavior.) The best behavior is for `C-x TAB' to indent by the numerical prefix number of columns, and to continue to do so as long as you continue to hit or `TAB'. should similarly outdent by the prefix arg. A negative prefix arg, and Bidi, should of course flip the direction. (Yes, if `C-x TAB' itself indents immediately then you will need to hit twice to outdent once. Not a big deal, IMO - outweighed by the convenience of not needing to hit 3 keys for the common case of indenting.) I started to take a stab at this myself, but I found no good way to propagate the prefix arg using the current implementation, which does (set-transient-map indent-rigidly-map t). In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2014-10-20 on LEG570 Bzr revision: 118168 rgm@gnu.org-20141020195941-icp42t8ttcnud09g Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs CPPFLAGS=3D-DGLYPH_DEBUG=3D1' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 11 21:11:22 2022 Received: (at 18977) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 May 2022 01:11:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38853 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1noxMQ-0001nX-EH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2022 21:11:22 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:47392) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1noxMN-0001n5-Np for 18977@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2022 21:11:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=8I4rr8TZyQQOlgRssaQMFCSMp9a0YbHhYSYD1MDunIQ=; b=afB3LRNYH2HuVoZsUVjsL/LcRt jURDUVQOVvfUvrI5UEQaFLc200tXlMJ8YCJEnYiHPCqjmHV5rf3HopvGMkrBoPytpUFbHUUlSiYh9 mwONzP7+NRBEJbho7LoBeYdner4M7C3IO2+h8tOALR+xD6HI66Fg/WXeLMpvfI38BA8Y=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1noxMC-0006TV-Su; Thu, 12 May 2022 03:11:11 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: bug#18977: 25.0.50; Enhance (fix) incremental `indent-rigidly' References: <3394deee-e886-4428-9491-2286fcbbcce2@default> X-Now-Playing: Section 25's _The Key of Dreams_: "Always Now" Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 03:11:07 +0200 In-Reply-To: <3394deee-e886-4428-9491-2286fcbbcce2@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 6 Nov 2014 10:36:27 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: <87y1z7368k.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Drew Adams writes: > 1. Please consider adding this binding, so you can simply do `C-x TAB > TAB...': (define-key indent-rigidly-map "\t" 'indent-rigidly-right). > And update the doc string and prompt, of course. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18977 Cc: 18977@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Drew Adams writes: > 1. Please consider adding this binding, so you can simply do `C-x TAB > TAB...': (define-key indent-rigidly-map "\t" 'indent-rigidly-right). > And update the doc string and prompt, of course. Makes sense; I've now added this to Emacs 29. (But not changed the prompt.) > 2. You cannot currently provide a numeric prefix arg to `indent-rigidly' > for incremental use. The incremental indentation you get is either 1 > column (for ) or to the next tab stop (for ). > > It would be good to be able to use a numeric prefix arg interactively to > indent not only once, but each time you hit . 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You cannot currently provide a numeric prefix arg to `indent- > rigidly' > > for incremental use. The incremental indentation you get is either 1 > > column (for ) or to the next tab stop (for ). > > > > It would be good to be able to use a numeric prefix arg interactively > to > > indent not only once, but each time you hit . >=20 > I don't think that makes much sense -- if you've decided to indent X > columns (by using the prefix), then you don't want to enter the > transient map thing. So...another "wont-fix". I hope you're simply misunderstanding. This would let each incremental key press move by that increment, instead of an increment of just 1. It boosts the incrementation. An increment is exactly that: a given amount to increase (likewise, decrement/decrease). Think incf and decf, if that helps you understand. 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