GNU bug report logs - #1892
Please ship http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ErcBar included with ERC

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: "Jason A. Spiro" <jasonspiro <at> gmail.com>

Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:00:03 UTC

Severity: wishlist

Tags: wontfix

Done: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>

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Report forwarded to bug-submit-list <at> lists.donarmstrong.com, Emacs Bugs <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>:
bug#1892; Package emacs. (Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:00:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: "Jason A. Spiro" <jasonspiro <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Please ship http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ErcBar included with ERC
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:52:35 -0500
Thanks for maintaining ERC.  One thing:  Please ship
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ErcBar with ERC as a module which is
enabled by default.  (In xchat, the trackbar is enabled by default
already.)  I asked on freenode #erc, and offby1 said it was a good
idea.

--Jason

In GNU Emacs 22.2.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
of 2008-11-09 on raven, modified by Debian

--
Jason Spiro: software/web developer, trainer, IT consultant. I support
Linux, UNIX, Windows, and more. Contact me to discuss your needs.
+1 (416) 992-3445 / info <at> jspiro.com





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Acknowledgement sent to jasonspiro <at> gmail.com:
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From: jasonspiro <at> gmail.com
To: smeuuh <at> gmail.com
Cc: 1892 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#1892: Please ship http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ErcBar included with ERC
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:09:26 -0500
Hi smeuuh,

I just asked[1] the ERC maintainers to include ErcBar[2] with ERC as a
module enabled by default.

A)  Just to verify:  the software license for ErcBar is the license
stated at the bottom of the ErcBar webpage?

B)  Do you know why copyright assignment is important?

C)  I don't know if ErcBar requires copyright assignment.  If it does,
are you willing to sign the form and mail it back to the Free Software
Foundation?

Please Reply to All.

Thanks in advance,
-Jason

^  [1].  http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=1892
^  [2].  http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ErcBar
-- 
Jason Spiro: software/web developer, packager, trainer, IT consultant.
I support Linux, UNIX, Windows, and more. Contact me to discuss your needs.
+1 (416) 992-3445 / www.jspiro.com




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Acknowledgement sent to "Antoine Levitt" <smeuuh <at> gmail.com>:
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From: "Antoine Levitt" <smeuuh <at> gmail.com>
To: jasonspiro <at> gmail.com
Cc: 1892 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#1892: Please ship http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ErcBar included with ERC
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:06:10 +0100
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Hi jason,
First of all, the version on emacswiki wasn't the latest. I just updated it
to the version I'm using.
I don't really care about copyright assignment, I'm willing to license it
with whatever you want. I just did that piece of code for my usage and
thought others might find it useful. I would of course love a piece of my
code to be included in Emacs. However, I don't think it should be included
in emacs, because its quality is not very good. Here are a few shortcomings
I noted :

- It uses a very crude heuristic to move back. Previously it was even
cruder, now it is (re-search-backward "^.*<.*>" nil t n), which means it
will screw up on /me and such, but will work on multi-line messages (eg if
you use wrapping). However, it might also not work on multilines messages
with <> in them. Maybe there are some erc internal functions I didn't see to
do that.

- The bar is placed as an overlay on text (underline or overline, currently
underline), which means it won't do well for instance in this case (admire
the superb ASCII artwork, to be viewed in monospace of course) :
<smeuuh> bla
------------
<smeuuh> blablablablablablablablablablabla
The ideal would be to put it full width, but I haven't found how to do that.

- There are some weird bugs when putting erc-bar-threshold to 0, and/or
putting overline instead of underline. I don't think those are my fault, but
I don't know how to fix them.

- It depends on erc-track

- It currently has to defadvice erc-track-mode, or chaos would ensue. I
remember seing somewhere advice were frowned upon in emacs code.

- I'm not a very experienced emacs coder, so some bugs may have slipped, and
the code may be inelegant.

If someone is willing to fix these issues though, it would be a nice
addition to an already great IRC client.
Antoine Levitt
2009/1/13 <jasonspiro <at> gmail.com>

> Hi smeuuh,
>
> I just asked[1] the ERC maintainers to include ErcBar[2] with ERC as a
> module enabled by default.
>
> A)  Just to verify:  the software license for ErcBar is the license
> stated at the bottom of the ErcBar webpage?
>
> B)  Do you know why copyright assignment is important?
>
> C)  I don't know if ErcBar requires copyright assignment.  If it does,
> are you willing to sign the form and mail it back to the Free Software
> Foundation?
>
> Please Reply to All.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> -Jason
>
> ^  [1].  http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=1892
> ^  [2].  http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ErcBar
> --
> Jason Spiro: software/web developer, packager, trainer, IT consultant.
> I support Linux, UNIX, Windows, and more. Contact me to discuss your needs.
> +1 (416) 992-3445 / www.jspiro.com
>
[Message part 2 (text/html, inline)]

Severity set to `wishlist' from `normal' Request was from Chong Yidong <cyd <at> stupidchicken.com> to control <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com. (Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:35:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug reassigned from package `emacs' to `emacs,erc'. Request was from Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> to control <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com. (Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:10:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Information forwarded to bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org:
bug#1892; Package emacs. (Sun, 27 Dec 2015 22:42:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #22 received at 1892 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: "Antoine Levitt" <smeuuh <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 1892 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jasonspiro <at> gmail.com
Subject: Re: bug#1892: Please ship http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ErcBar
 included with ERC
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 23:40:56 +0100
"Antoine Levitt" <smeuuh <at> gmail.com> writes:

> First of all, the version on emacswiki wasn't the latest. I just updated it to the
> version I'm using.
> I don't really care about copyright assignment, I'm willing to license it with
> whatever you want. I just did that piece of code for my usage and thought
> others might find it useful. I would of course love a piece of my code to be
> included in Emacs. However, I don't think it should be included in emacs,
> because its quality is not very good. Here are a few shortcomings I noted :

Ok, I'm closing this wishlist bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no




Added tag(s) wontfix. Request was from Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Sun, 27 Dec 2015 22:42:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug closed, send any further explanations to 1892 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and "Jason A. Spiro" <jasonspiro <at> gmail.com> Request was from Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Sun, 27 Dec 2015 22:42:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <help-debbugs <at> gnu.org> to internal_control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Mon, 25 Jan 2016 12:24:04 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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