From unknown Sun Aug 17 09:12:15 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#18902 <18902@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#18902 <18902@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Emacs 24.4 doesn't respect X resources Reply-To: bug#18902 <18902@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 16:12:15 +0000 retitle 18902 Emacs 24.4 doesn't respect X resources reassign 18902 emacs submitter 18902 Rog=C3=A9rio Brito severity 18902 normal tag 18902 moreinfo thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 30 10:35:03 2014 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Oct 2014 14:35:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40663 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XjqoX-0004Do-7p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 10:35:02 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53370) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xjlcc-0002Xl-L3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 05:02:23 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XjlcR-00051X-SH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 05:02:17 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:42584) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XjlcR-00051T-QQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 05:02:11 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55076) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XjlcM-0007Om-JD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 05:02:11 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XjlcH-0004dl-DP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 05:02:06 -0400 Received: from a2-socom6-1.uol.com.br ([200.147.34.37]:43383 helo=smtps.uol.com.br) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XjlcH-0004TU-4s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 05:02:01 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by a2-socom4.uol.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE73AE00008C for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 07:01:54 -0200 (BRST) X-UOL-SMTP: SMTPS587 Received: from localhost (unknown [177.99.102.120]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: rogerbrito@uol.com.br) by a2-socom4.uol.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DE0A7E000089 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 07:01:48 -0200 (BRST) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 07:01:47 -0200 From: =?utf-8?Q?Rog=C3=A9rio?= Brito To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Emacs 24.4 doesn't respect X resources Message-ID: <20141030090146.GA3651@ime.usp.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-SIG5: de27ea1e6738d22e78cacd616b3264f7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 10:34:59 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) Hi. Debian has just upgraded Emacs 24.3 to 24.4 and one thing stopped working: It seems that Emacs 24.4 does not respect all the X resources that I used to specify (for many, many, many years) in my .Xresources file. Going back to 24.3 makes the configuration work again. Going forward to 24.4 makes it stop. Tested multiple times just in case I was going nuts. In particular, I set the geometry, foreground and background colors with the following: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Emacs*cursorColor: red Emacs*geometry: 100x45 Emacs*Background: #002540 Emacs*Foreground: azure3 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Is this a known problem? Is there any extra information needed to solve this potential regression? Thanks in advance for any help, --=20 Rog=C3=A9rio Brito : rbrito@{ime.usp.br,gmail.com} : GPG key 4096R/BCFCAA= AA http://cynic.cc/blog/ : github.com/rbrito : profiles.google.com/rbrito DebianQA: http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=3Drbrito%40ime.usp.br From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 30 23:28:30 2014 Received: (at 18902) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Oct 2014 03:28:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40923 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xk2t3-0000VG-KM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 23:28:29 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:59174 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xk2t2-0000V9-0p for 18902@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 23:28:28 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xk2sz-00042a-Nb; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 23:28:25 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: =?utf-8?Q?Rog=C3=A9rio?= Brito Subject: Re: bug#18902: Emacs 24.4 doesn't respect X resources References: <20141030090146.GA3651@ime.usp.br> X-Spook: NORAD Dick Cheney Centro emc Osama enforcers IMF colonel X-Ran: eOY9Zi];hJ-9Ho=A){JPdbI3_N|]@#'a5qrd^{F;kqQ0|PV3nKIG:`_l>1@s X-Hue: cyan X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 23:28:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20141030090146.GA3651@ime.usp.br> (=?utf-8?Q?=22Rog=C3=A9rio?= Brito"'s message of "Thu, 30 Oct 2014 07:01:47 -0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18902 Cc: 18902@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) Rog=C3=A9rio Brito wrote: > Debian has just upgraded Emacs 24.3 to 24.4 and one thing stopped > working: It seems that Emacs 24.4 does not respect all the X resources > that I used to specify (for many, many, many years) in my .Xresources > file. > > Going back to 24.3 makes the configuration work again. Going forward to > 24.4 makes it stop. Tested multiple times just in case I was going nuts. > > In particular, I set the geometry, foreground and background colors with > the following: > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Emacs*cursorColor: red > Emacs*geometry: 100x45 > Emacs*Background: #002540 > Emacs*Foreground: azure3 Works fine for me under XFCE on Debian testing, with 24.4 from unstable. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 31 14:11:39 2014 Received: (at 18902) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Oct 2014 18:11:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44090 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XkGfj-0003od-0N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:11:39 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:55944) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XkGfg-0003oQ-U9 for 18902@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:11:37 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Au4MAOatTlRFpY87/2dsb2JhbABcgw6DYoZ+y1MEAgKBHBcBAXyEAwEBAwFWKAsLNBIUGA0kAYhKCctyAQEBBwIBH5BGSYRLAQSfEoZ2igeCEYFvhBQhgTeBQwEBAQ X-IPAS-Result: Au4MAOatTlRFpY87/2dsb2JhbABcgw6DYoZ+y1MEAgKBHBcBAXyEAwEBAwFWKAsLNBIUGA0kAYhKCctyAQEBBwIBH5BGSYRLAQSfEoZ2igeCEYFvhBQhgTeBQwEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.04,797,1406606400"; d="scan'208";a="95686158" Received: from 69-165-143-59.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.143.59]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 31 Oct 2014 14:11:31 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 008D462BA; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:11:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: =?windows-1252?Q?Rog=E9rio?= Brito , 18902@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#18902: Emacs 24.4 doesn't respect X resources Message-ID: References: <20141030090146.GA3651@ime.usp.br> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:11:30 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Thu, 30 Oct 2014 23:28:25 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18902 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > Debian has just upgraded Emacs 24.3 to 24.4 and one thing stopped > working: It seems that Emacs 24.4 does not respect all the X resources > that I used to specify (for many, many, many years) in my .Xresources > file. > > Going back to 24.3 makes the configuration work again. Going forward to > 24.4 makes it stop. Tested multiple times just in case I was going nuts. > > In particular, I set the geometry, foreground and background colors with > the following: > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Emacs*cursorColor: red > Emacs*geometry: 100x45 > Emacs*Background: #002540 > Emacs*Foreground: azure3 Can you reproduce the problem with "emacs -q" (with lower-case "q", since "-Q" ignores Xresources)? Is the above from your .Xresources or from the output of "xrdb -query" (I ask since Emacs himself doesn't read the .Xresources file)? Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 31 15:21:46 2014 Received: (at 18902) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Oct 2014 19:21:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44116 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XkHlZ-0005Xf-NN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 15:21:46 -0400 Received: from a2-socom2.uol.com.br ([200.147.33.240]:60674 helo=smtps.uol.com.br) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XkHlW-0005XN-3s for 18902@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 15:21:43 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by a2-socom6.uol.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A13E0000A4; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:21:34 -0200 (BRST) X-UOL-SMTP: SMTPS587 Received: from localhost (unknown [177.99.102.120]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: rogerbrito@uol.com.br) by a2-socom6.uol.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 814A7E0000A6; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:21:22 -0200 (BRST) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:21:22 -0200 From: =?utf-8?Q?Rog=C3=A9rio?= Brito To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#18902: Emacs 24.4 doesn't respect X resources Message-ID: <20141031192122.GA12893@ime.usp.br> References: <20141030090146.GA3651@ime.usp.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="5vNYLRcllDrimb99" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-SIG5: 2fe773b52716e45bd292474f40aa3dae X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18902 Cc: 18902@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear Stefan, On Oct 31 2014, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Debian has just upgraded Emacs 24.3 to 24.4 and one thing stopped > > working: It seems that Emacs 24.4 does not respect all the X resources > > that I used to specify (for many, many, many years) in my .Xresources > > file. > > > > Going back to 24.3 makes the configuration work again. Going forward to > > 24.4 makes it stop. Tested multiple times just in case I was going nuts. > > > > In particular, I set the geometry, foreground and background colors with > > the following: > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > Emacs*cursorColor: red > > Emacs*geometry: 100x45 > > Emacs*Background: #002540 > > Emacs*Foreground: azure3 > > Can you reproduce the problem with "emacs -q" (with lower-case "q", > since "-Q" ignores Xresources)? Yes, I can reproduce this with -q. > Is the above from your .Xresources or from the output of "xrdb -query" > (I ask since Emacs himself doesn't read the .Xresources file)? This is from my .Xresources file, but they are also spit with xrdb -query. *BUT*, in the mean time, I did the following: * I am using the MATE desktop environment (essentially, GNOME 2) and I get the X resources ignored with Emacs 24.4, but everything worked just fine with Emacs 24.3. * I tried installing and seeing the behavior with LXDE, GNOME 3 Classic (regular GNOME 3 just crashed), and XFCE. Emacs 24.4 loaded the resources just fine with these. * Then, I became more adventurous and spent a lot of time git bisecting the emacs tree and after a lot of electrical energy/heat, I discovered that the first bad commit is, indeed, related to faces and X resources. The commit is 15e14b165dcbc6566a0459b0d5e66f89080f569e and right at the bottom of the comment is * faces.el (face-spec-set): Use face-spec-recalc in all cases. (face-spec-reset-face): Don't assign extra properties in temacs. (face-spec-recalc): Apply X resources too. The commit (in more than one place) is: https://github.com/emacs-mirror/emacs/commit/15e14b165dcbc6566a0459b0d5e66f89080f569e http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=15e14b165dcbc6566a0459b0d5e66f89080f569e I am attaching the git bisect log. Given the commit above, is this a bug with Emacs or should I report things elsewhere? Thank you very much, -- Rogério Brito : rbrito@{ime.usp.br,gmail.com} : GPG key 4096R/BCFCAAAA http://cynic.cc/blog/ : github.com/rbrito : profiles.google.com/rbrito DebianQA: http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=rbrito%40ime.usp.br --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="git-bisect-log.log" git bisect start # bad: [23ce11b16aea239c5632f542c47a0ec6c18fbdc7] Minor fix in bidi.c:bidi_cache_reset_to. git bisect bad 23ce11b16aea239c5632f542c47a0ec6c18fbdc7 # good: [3a1ce0685f66f5fb162b07f6bf4a1d8e1ec75c06] Add 24.3 release to ChangeLogs git bisect good 3a1ce0685f66f5fb162b07f6bf4a1d8e1ec75c06 # skip: [ea6e1a63d8be3ac5fe029de23b83beccdcd3ecdc] * lisp/progmodes/ruby-mode.el (ruby-smie-grammar): Remove outdated TODO. Add "." after " @ ". (ruby-smie--at-dot-call): New function. Checks if point at method call with explicit target. (ruby-smie--forward-token, ruby-smie--backward-token): Prepend "." to the method name tokens when it precedes them. (ruby-smie--backward-id, ruby-smie--forward-id): Remove. (ruby-smie-rules): Add rule for indentation before and after "." token. git bisect skip ea6e1a63d8be3ac5fe029de23b83beccdcd3ecdc # good: [4324fdcd76e3e69c09b3219f583d615c2db355b1] * lisp/progmodes/ebnf2ps.el (ebnf-prologue): Avoid PS error with some viewers such as evince when ebnf-production-name-p is nil. git bisect good 4324fdcd76e3e69c09b3219f583d615c2db355b1 # bad: [0a153b238ecdaec77b2d6dee74595fa60e714b3f] * lisp/progmodes/perl-mode.el (perl-syntax-propertize-function): Handle $' used as a variable. git bisect bad 0a153b238ecdaec77b2d6dee74595fa60e714b3f # bad: [28f859b697e41f31133d8b3bc919d738e5c1369c] Ignore XF86WakeUp git bisect bad 28f859b697e41f31133d8b3bc919d738e5c1369c # good: [448014150c794c7da80475421a30505d6e3afd14] (Mostly) fix bug #16007 with generation of MULE-*.map files. git bisect good 448014150c794c7da80475421a30505d6e3afd14 # good: [187ab3738148c325fb4556be00068d4b2f06de60] Fix session GUI startup. git bisect good 187ab3738148c325fb4556be00068d4b2f06de60 # bad: [f2408d020f446103a3123f047f9e59ce2279e4dd] Document `scroll-bar-adjust-thumb-portion'. git bisect bad f2408d020f446103a3123f047f9e59ce2279e4dd # good: [90981d876d005b04b50049eb17532d40b13ef13f] lisp/gnus/ChangeLog: Fix timestamp of last commit git bisect good 90981d876d005b04b50049eb17532d40b13ef13f # good: [1e5c6c91bed1566e703ffdbbd71e2da33c871546] Mark `split-window' change from command to function as ---. git bisect good 1e5c6c91bed1566e703ffdbbd71e2da33c871546 # good: [2e9883868deb524a1cc1883a8945f3c6c81f0d3f] Re-organize NEWS. git bisect good 2e9883868deb524a1cc1883a8945f3c6c81f0d3f # bad: [2b4bf1c47011b3e289170a505bdd3b797f6afded] eww: minor code fixes and toolbar support git bisect bad 2b4bf1c47011b3e289170a505bdd3b797f6afded # bad: [15e14b165dcbc6566a0459b0d5e66f89080f569e] Don't make faces when loading Custom themes. git bisect bad 15e14b165dcbc6566a0459b0d5e66f89080f569e # good: [33e44744004ff92f6b8ecef0102f800f11ddfda9] Fix compilation warning on MS-Windows in my_png_error. git bisect good 33e44744004ff92f6b8ecef0102f800f11ddfda9 # good: [1e992d21cc0d3e3294ac916d22d6af8d74757263] Doc fixes for face functions. git bisect good 1e992d21cc0d3e3294ac916d22d6af8d74757263 # first bad commit: [15e14b165dcbc6566a0459b0d5e66f89080f569e] Don't make faces when loading Custom themes. --5vNYLRcllDrimb99-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 23 11:24:29 2014 Received: (at 18902) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Nov 2014 16:24:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42831 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XsZxc-0004GX-SI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:24:29 -0500 Received: from a2-socom4-2.uol.com.br ([200.147.34.46]:58828 helo=smtps.uol.com.br) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XsZxY-0004GM-Sz for 18902@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 11:24:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by a2-socom5.uol.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB58DE00008C; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 14:24:20 -0200 (BRST) X-UOL-SMTP: SMTPS587 Received: from localhost (177.206.17.82.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br [177.206.17.82]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: rogerbrito@uol.com.br) by a2-socom5.uol.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B0327E00008B; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 14:24:06 -0200 (BRST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 14:24:08 -0200 From: =?utf-8?Q?Rog=C3=A9rio?= Brito To: Stefan Monnier , Chong Yidong Subject: Re: bug#18902: Emacs 24.4 doesn't respect X resources Message-ID: <20141123162408.GB13326@ime.usp.br> References: <20141030090146.GA3651@ime.usp.br> <20141031192122.GA12893@ime.usp.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20141031192122.GA12893@ime.usp.br> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-SIG5: 43a0726e30e13e84326b33c205d66be3 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18902 Cc: 18902@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Dear Stefan, I'm also including Chong Yidong as CC, since he is the author of the first change that broke Emacs for me. I am, therefore, keeping a lot of quote, for the sake of context here. On Oct 31 2014, Rogério Brito wrote: > On Oct 31 2014, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > Debian has just upgraded Emacs 24.3 to 24.4 and one thing stopped > > > working: It seems that Emacs 24.4 does not respect all the X resources > > > that I used to specify (for many, many, many years) in my .Xresources > > > file. > > > > > > Going back to 24.3 makes the configuration work again. Going forward to > > > 24.4 makes it stop. Tested multiple times just in case I was going nuts. > > > > > > In particular, I set the geometry, foreground and background colors with > > > the following: > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > Emacs*cursorColor: red > > > Emacs*geometry: 100x45 > > > Emacs*Background: #002540 > > > Emacs*Foreground: azure3 > > > > Can you reproduce the problem with "emacs -q" (with lower-case "q", > > since "-Q" ignores Xresources)? > > Yes, I can reproduce this with -q. > > > Is the above from your .Xresources or from the output of "xrdb -query" > > (I ask since Emacs himself doesn't read the .Xresources file)? > > This is from my .Xresources file, but they are also spit with xrdb -query. > *BUT*, in the mean time, I did the following: > > * I am using the MATE desktop environment (essentially, GNOME 2) and I get > the X resources ignored with Emacs 24.4, but everything worked just fine > with Emacs 24.3. > > * I tried installing and seeing the behavior with LXDE, GNOME 3 Classic > (regular GNOME 3 just crashed), and XFCE. Emacs 24.4 loaded the > resources just fine with these. > > * Then, I became more adventurous and spent a lot of time git bisecting the > emacs tree and after a lot of electrical energy/heat, I discovered that > the first bad commit is, indeed, related to faces and X resources. > > The commit is 15e14b165dcbc6566a0459b0d5e66f89080f569e and right at the > bottom of the comment is > > * faces.el (face-spec-set): Use face-spec-recalc in all cases. > (face-spec-reset-face): Don't assign extra properties in temacs. > (face-spec-recalc): Apply X resources too. > > The commit (in more than one place) is: > > https://github.com/emacs-mirror/emacs/commit/15e14b165dcbc6566a0459b0d5e66f89080f569e > http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=15e14b165dcbc6566a0459b0d5e66f89080f569e Apparently, the recent changes from the bzr repository to the git repository have broken the 2nd link, but the 1st one still works. In any case, I am still keeping below the output of git bisect log: > git bisect start > # bad: [23ce11b16aea239c5632f542c47a0ec6c18fbdc7] Minor fix in bidi.c:bidi_cache_reset_to. > git bisect bad 23ce11b16aea239c5632f542c47a0ec6c18fbdc7 > # good: [3a1ce0685f66f5fb162b07f6bf4a1d8e1ec75c06] Add 24.3 release to ChangeLogs > git bisect good 3a1ce0685f66f5fb162b07f6bf4a1d8e1ec75c06 > # skip: [ea6e1a63d8be3ac5fe029de23b83beccdcd3ecdc] * lisp/progmodes/ruby-mode.el (ruby-smie-grammar): Remove outdated TODO. Add "." after " @ ". (ruby-smie--at-dot-call): New function. Checks if point at method call with explicit target. (ruby-smie--forward-token, ruby-smie--backward-token): Prepend "." to the method name tokens when it precedes them. (ruby-smie--backward-id, ruby-smie--forward-id): Remove. (ruby-smie-rules): Add rule for indentation before and after "." token. > git bisect skip ea6e1a63d8be3ac5fe029de23b83beccdcd3ecdc > # good: [4324fdcd76e3e69c09b3219f583d615c2db355b1] * lisp/progmodes/ebnf2ps.el (ebnf-prologue): Avoid PS error with some viewers such as evince when ebnf-production-name-p is nil. > git bisect good 4324fdcd76e3e69c09b3219f583d615c2db355b1 > # bad: [0a153b238ecdaec77b2d6dee74595fa60e714b3f] * lisp/progmodes/perl-mode.el (perl-syntax-propertize-function): Handle $' used as a variable. > git bisect bad 0a153b238ecdaec77b2d6dee74595fa60e714b3f > # bad: [28f859b697e41f31133d8b3bc919d738e5c1369c] Ignore XF86WakeUp > git bisect bad 28f859b697e41f31133d8b3bc919d738e5c1369c > # good: [448014150c794c7da80475421a30505d6e3afd14] (Mostly) fix bug #16007 with generation of MULE-*.map files. > git bisect good 448014150c794c7da80475421a30505d6e3afd14 > # good: [187ab3738148c325fb4556be00068d4b2f06de60] Fix session GUI startup. > git bisect good 187ab3738148c325fb4556be00068d4b2f06de60 > # bad: [f2408d020f446103a3123f047f9e59ce2279e4dd] Document `scroll-bar-adjust-thumb-portion'. > git bisect bad f2408d020f446103a3123f047f9e59ce2279e4dd > # good: [90981d876d005b04b50049eb17532d40b13ef13f] lisp/gnus/ChangeLog: Fix timestamp of last commit > git bisect good 90981d876d005b04b50049eb17532d40b13ef13f > # good: [1e5c6c91bed1566e703ffdbbd71e2da33c871546] Mark `split-window' change from command to function as ---. > git bisect good 1e5c6c91bed1566e703ffdbbd71e2da33c871546 > # good: [2e9883868deb524a1cc1883a8945f3c6c81f0d3f] Re-organize NEWS. > git bisect good 2e9883868deb524a1cc1883a8945f3c6c81f0d3f > # bad: [2b4bf1c47011b3e289170a505bdd3b797f6afded] eww: minor code fixes and toolbar support > git bisect bad 2b4bf1c47011b3e289170a505bdd3b797f6afded > # bad: [15e14b165dcbc6566a0459b0d5e66f89080f569e] Don't make faces when loading Custom themes. > git bisect bad 15e14b165dcbc6566a0459b0d5e66f89080f569e > # good: [33e44744004ff92f6b8ecef0102f800f11ddfda9] Fix compilation warning on MS-Windows in my_png_error. > git bisect good 33e44744004ff92f6b8ecef0102f800f11ddfda9 > # good: [1e992d21cc0d3e3294ac916d22d6af8d74757263] Doc fixes for face functions. > git bisect good 1e992d21cc0d3e3294ac916d22d6af8d74757263 > # first bad commit: [15e14b165dcbc6566a0459b0d5e66f89080f569e] Don't make faces when loading Custom themes. The above is the complete log. > Given the commit above, is this a bug with Emacs or should I report things > elsewhere? Again, is there any further information that I can provide about my system, or anything else that you would like me to test so that this can get fixed? Thank you very much for your help, Rogério Brito. -- Rogério Brito : rbrito@{ime.usp.br,gmail.com} : GPG key 4096R/BCFCAAAA http://cynic.cc/blog/ : github.com/rbrito : profiles.google.com/rbrito DebianQA: http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=rbrito%40ime.usp.br From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 04 03:47:42 2021 Received: (at 18902) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2021 07:47:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46523 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mMQOr-0007h2-Nn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 03:47:41 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:38684) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mMQOn-0007aZ-H3 for 18902@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 03:47:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Ati9NbX1SAZiP8DXR3d1B/60ILb0OkPKwnsW1BYDMVo=; b=eR4swaL4bAiYCNbVdA3e5+qC8j a1Htnb5e/n34949fITXHp2ijKYKJmynllwPnG62FoSRSU8+5TvCBbpyAOlgSlQZpiOE92cFYqkYlD dmz5IW0Y5DFOZI9PJkYCFsShPSmY7hDbQ1VaPcm0dBGGOJFRIzu6RckUGz79yC8or77I=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mMQOa-0006pS-PM; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 09:47:30 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: =?utf-8?Q?Rog=C3=A9rio?= Brito Subject: Re: bug#18902: Emacs 24.4 doesn't respect X resources References: <20141030090146.GA3651@ime.usp.br> <20141031192122.GA12893@ime.usp.br> Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2021 09:47:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20141031192122.GA12893@ime.usp.br> (=?utf-8?Q?=22Rog=C3=A9ri?= =?utf-8?Q?o?= Brito"'s message of "Fri, 31 Oct 2014 17:21:22 -0200") Message-ID: <874kb0srxv.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Rogério Brito writes: > This is from my .Xresources file, but they are also spit with xrdb -query. > *BUT*, in the mean time, I did the following: > > * I am using the MATE desktop environment (essentially, GNOME 2) and I [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18902 Cc: Stefan Monnier , 18902@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Rog=C3=A9rio Brito writes: > This is from my .Xresources file, but they are also spit with xrdb -query. > *BUT*, in the mean time, I did the following: > > * I am using the MATE desktop environment (essentially, GNOME 2) and I get > the X resources ignored with Emacs 24.4, but everything worked just fine > with Emacs 24.3. > > * I tried installing and seeing the behavior with LXDE, GNOME 3 Classic > (regular GNOME 3 just crashed), and XFCE. Emacs 24.4 loaded the > resources just fine with these. > > * Then, I became more adventurous and spent a lot of time git bisecting t= he > emacs tree and after a lot of electrical energy/heat, I discovered that > the first bad commit is, indeed, related to faces and X resources. > > The commit is 15e14b165dcbc6566a0459b0d5e66f89080f569e and right at the > bottom of the comment is > > * faces.el (face-spec-set): Use face-spec-recalc in all cases. > (face-spec-reset-face): Don't assign extra properties in temacs. > (face-spec-recalc): Apply X resources too. (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved at the time.) This was commit aac2b673c3083ab612bcd57fbcd9d370078bd8da Author: Chong Yidong AuthorDate: Sat Dec 21 23:31:09 2013 +0800 Looking at the code in face-spec-recalc in the current Emacs, it looks quite different from what it did in 2013. Are you still seeing this issue in recent versions of Emacs? 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Looking at the code in face-spec-recalc in the current Emacs, it looks > quite different from what it did in 2013. Are you still seeing this > issue in recent versions of Emacs? (I can't recall seei [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18902 Cc: Stefan Monnier , 18902@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Looking at the code in face-spec-recalc in the current Emacs, it looks > quite different from what it did in 2013. Are you still seeing this > issue in recent versions of Emacs? (I can't recall seeing any similar > reports.) More information was requested, but no response was given within a month, so I'm closing this bug report. 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