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[108.217.242.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id v11sm2328273pas.24.2014.10.23.14.32.37 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:32:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil Hagelberg To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.4; url.el user agent does not include Emacs version Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:32:24 -0700 Message-ID: <87fveexyjb.fsf@enigma.home.hagelb.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) The url.el functions for making HTTP requests set the User-Agent header to "URL/Emacs" which is not very descriptive. It would be helpful to include the Emacs version, at least. In GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10) of 2014-10-20 on enigma Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11204000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 7.7 (wheezy) Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Emacs-Lisp Minor modes in effect: magit-auto-revert-mode: t diff-auto-refine-mode: t recentf-mode: t hi-lock-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t elisp-slime-nav-mode: t paredit-mode: t whitespace-mode: t idle-highlight-mode: t hl-line-mode: t page-break-lines-mode: t eldoc-mode: t winner-mode: t show-paren-mode: t ido-hacks-mode: t tooltip-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: F C-x C-f r e a M-< C-x ' C-s m a r m a l M-< C-v C-l C-n C-e C-b C-b C-b C-SPC M-b M-b M-b M-b M-b M-b M-b M-b M-w C-v C-v C-x C-f . e m e l r e c c i d y C-x k C-n C-n C-x k C-x k C-x b C-n C-x C-f C-g C-c C-c C-x C-g C-n TAB TAB k y F - r F P P C-x k C-x b C-g C-x o C-c g C-x k C-h v u s e r - a g e C-g C-h f u r l - r e t C-x ' C-e C-x b h e l p C-e M-b C-x ' M-< C-s u s e r - a g e n t C-a C-s u r l / e m a C-a M-x u r l - r e t C-g C-x b C-g C-x b s c a r a ( u r l - r e t r M-/ - s M-/ SPC " h t t p : / / h t t p b i n . o r g / h e a d e r s C-e C-x C-e C-x b h t t p b i C-x b C-n M-< C-s U R L / C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-a C-s a g e n t C-s C-a C-x b C-x b h t t p b C-x b C-x b C-s U s e r C-a C-v C-v M-x r e p o r t - e Recent messages: Quit Type "q" in help window to restore its previous buffer, C-M-v to scroll help. 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24 Oct 2014 01:19:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33391 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XhTXN-0007OW-7k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 21:19:29 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:6617) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XhTXL-0007OH-CZ for 18812@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 21:19:27 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArYGAIDvNVNFpY87/2dsb2JhbABZgwY7gw/APYEXF3SCJQEBAQECAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiAQI0hkXjnoHhDgEqRmBaoNMIQ X-IPAS-Result: ArYGAIDvNVNFpY87/2dsb2JhbABZgwY7gw/APYEXF3SCJQEBAQECAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiAQI0hkXjnoHhDgEqRmBaoNMIQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="94967485" Received: from 69-165-143-59.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.143.59]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 23 Oct 2014 21:19:21 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id BD78E4696; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 21:19:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Phil Hagelberg Subject: Re: bug#18812: 24.4; url.el user agent does not include Emacs version Message-ID: References: <87fveexyjb.fsf@enigma.home.hagelb.org> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 21:19:21 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87fveexyjb.fsf@enigma.home.hagelb.org> (Phil Hagelberg's message of "Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:32:24 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18812 Cc: 18812@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > The url.el functions for making HTTP requests set the User-Agent header > to "URL/Emacs" which is not very descriptive. It would be helpful to > include the Emacs version, at least. Other people feel like it's already too descriptive. Why should all Emacs users constantly tell the whole world exactly which Emacs version they're running? Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 24 09:48:22 2014 Received: (at 18812) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Oct 2014 13:48:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33731 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XhfE5-0003os-GH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:48:21 -0400 Received: from mail-qc0-f180.google.com ([209.85.216.180]:46554) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XhfE2-0003oZ-Uw for 18812@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:48:19 -0400 Received: by mail-qc0-f180.google.com with SMTP id x3so721126qcv.25 for <18812@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 06:48:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lifelogs.com; s=google; h=from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=2qpgj72zY9QfAkvTHk16O6tgIaU8t7Lple1B7NT+sjE=; b=ZzDMGDy8GY8huJWbGhl4K4b36Liy7XOTb7UJXLUSOXVFz/ejNhfVclokJTImBiqOKg sDLdVwRawlCeDwX3zbjhbrTeEjJU/5ei4Xm2WoyZJMsg5sLVYO/KaV9JLtPZp2bvQEHT 90d9bJExNdXC15AHH+Wx05b2rXAmzJPovOpP0= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:organization:references :mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=2qpgj72zY9QfAkvTHk16O6tgIaU8t7Lple1B7NT+sjE=; b=EM6ePHhX8sNwy8s8tiNBFXRVEiVuqQZVj7lkj/IPKPuetQ/dnn+H3sRGRn6gZtyhE6 oV8VIAVyjpQIo+GzMVsC9rJBzrV6tzV3STVrAnUkLiAAGdVjLhAZEeQWcjkaQ7d/YB2K Zc6J8ICct3jMQYJqKHwVG9DA0QFSa4Yx0Iit7zPEsUTBFh4zF3HHH6a35KEEy581JIYH KTxPYbsdgb+Xk6d3/UFUXTmcqNJsipuiNVx5XURLxnAOINApGdIGGDnqlCxr8I10VdyH NWvTAy5b8QqVOV3vu8pTvR3Es3eQW4uDqAuhpQYSrEELMbZDukfEgnoGnG1xyZdqZYtY 04Qw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkcSgDXY/IWAT+o8Evy5ewFjw25bck6B2ouoyESFnU99RVbtA0TQyXgeWPOlesQZhnNWPtR X-Received: by 10.224.135.196 with SMTP id o4mr5935572qat.35.1414158493603; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 06:48:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bug ([198.0.146.153]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w65sm4112980qge.36.2014.10.24.06.48.12 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 24 Oct 2014 06:48:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Ted Zlatanov To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#18812: 24.4; url.el user agent does not include Emacs version Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos References: <87fveexyjb.fsf@enigma.home.hagelb.org> X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:48:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 23 Oct 2014 21:19:21 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18812 Cc: 18812@debbugs.gnu.org, Phil Hagelberg X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 21:19:21 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: >> The url.el functions for making HTTP requests set the User-Agent header >> to "URL/Emacs" which is not very descriptive. It would be helpful to >> include the Emacs version, at least. SM> Other people feel like it's already too descriptive. Why should all SM> Emacs users constantly tell the whole world exactly which Emacs version SM> they're running? Web browsers do. It helps web developers and is not particularly sensitive if only the major.minor version is used (without too much detail). Ted From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 24 12:07:44 2014 Received: (at 18812) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Oct 2014 16:07:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34242 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XhhOy-0007IT-Ce for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:07:44 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:42565) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XhhOw-0007IC-4C for 18812@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:07:42 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArUGAIDvNVNFpY87/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSsA9gRcXdIIlAQEBAQIBViMFCws0EhQYDSSIBAjSGReOegeEOASpGYFqg0wh X-IPAS-Result: ArUGAIDvNVNFpY87/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSsA9gRcXdIIlAQEBAQIBViMFCws0EhQYDSSIBAjSGReOegeEOASpGYFqg0wh X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="95054874" Received: from 69-165-143-59.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.143.59]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 24 Oct 2014 12:07:36 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 3AEEB8587; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:07:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Phil Hagelberg Subject: Re: bug#18812: 24.4; url.el user agent does not include Emacs version Message-ID: References: <87fveexyjb.fsf@enigma.home.hagelb.org> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:07:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:48:11 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18812 Cc: 18812@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > Web browsers do. I know, and I don't like it either. > It helps web developers I think it only helps them in the sense "helps to dig themselves further into a hole, instead of backing up towards the light" ;-) > and is not particularly sensitive if only the major.minor version is > used (without too much detail). It wouldn't be the end of the world, indeed. But I still haven't heard of any concrete reason why it would be beneficial. The only argument I've seen so far amounts to a handwavy "would be helpful", which I find rather unconvincing. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 24 12:22:17 2014 Received: (at 18812) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Oct 2014 16:22:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34246 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xhhd2-0007cz-T0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:22:17 -0400 Received: from mail-pa0-f47.google.com ([209.85.220.47]:40750) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xhhd0-0007cl-Ar for 18812@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:22:15 -0400 Received: by mail-pa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id kx10so1400018pab.6 for <18812@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:22:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=rPU0sjQm8mpL8NJftNOlZa1BbYuivVLjWi9erZ0NHpU=; b=DS0FjFZ9F/KywzPalQY7fYaSjlC98LR6iRERFt7wDNFMsOje3HtSpH5jdivV/4sXF6 RD/yWZ25bVpFnBuqqjTvnYlXkLiXyBIcwiTORKL0qNnwxxv0QknvryVusakbb9lo+y9p 8fZFzmugBc3qZIxa1oAauHradgoQN8gn2Int58D5mjrP5gSgSIE0yBSwlNPazaanaMpU oJnhtMWHdC/pBprT3niteCwUn3ztlYDGF9VAP5d+ONgNI92z0GlYC0XKJrICf18Y1PZd NZc2rlmkMJ2UDWf6KsLMlzY9dE3BwjRd0gMkyFVcwJ4Kgvb3Ztd7uuI9PUaonnkjzYrS 4wlg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkmWdYRacbqzJM+AZxK7D45PfchxTQMXXvFIN/Tos97AT95kGyoYGCK3OmW2j3KRBLhZCrX X-Received: by 10.68.212.5 with SMTP id ng5mr5614842pbc.15.1414167727771; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:22:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from enigma.home.hagelb.org (ip98-176-102-162.sd.sd.cox.net. [98.176.102.162]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ey5sm4230497pbb.67.2014.10.24.09.22.04 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:22:05 -0700 (PDT) References: <87fveexyjb.fsf@enigma.home.hagelb.org> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.9.6pre2; emacs 24.4.1 From: Phil Hagelberg To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#18812: 24.4; url.el user agent does not include Emacs version In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:21:59 -0700 Message-ID: <87k33pigk8.fsf@enigma.home.hagelb.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18812 Cc: 18812@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Stefan Monnier writes: > But I still haven't heard of any concrete reason why it would be > beneficial. The only argument I've seen so far amounts to a handwavy > "would be helpful", which I find rather unconvincing. Personally, I am curious about the new signing features in package.el. However, since these don't work in versions of Emacs older than 24.4, I thought it would be interesting to examine the access logs of Marmalade to see how fast the adoption of 24.4 is going. -Phil --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUSnynAAoJEJKJPaQ/wzAFKesP/326YEF8OS82E0fIdc16Jwkc 0TtY8Y1QrAIMBeRTmdBzkwzTpbSPJtQUWjx4bNa47NS+fk+inLwt1A4Og98oFb/R PO61XIQsLNKLAuWcUYr6XzBuAUvNhvYkP57V3We43XSir2+Qb5w/NP6IfIBG1c1j 1fXHoY60Uf/j47bAB5ucZHxX+5u2nxwQqfajT9KjW6xr9V722Nzse2yUYA9dSlXj PCPNQBltQ2cQf5p25L9T0TZ7NhlsJK/uTSbhV4+Vzxc6qJTruY7nxw8/OAVkeuUz dlTvA5jQm+HhSL7U946iW/N/JT1WLGTikxB1hz7wlKdnjLHmXlAy93bCnv0klAk0 /4uvfyVKMbK5JK4FkIgxp4Zc7GlvPE75TsdTlaBRmsOLI3Vsa5h0cVvypZAGpU45 EKpr8aVjLjpi7TkTN6t4/xgAQ7mm/CIndE+XAnXE6LxEwNx4qG0k7o9Eo6ABZRHs ko0dBcrwUuvAqa4BBgS0SoTEMSMZ19fx+gkjRYDcS8yR+pstHYTkqzvzrWl4w4jG cMyDSammNZnmeHaf3SV9DMuIcZ5O57lpSZUuraOcHgxV6r9Uj6ulMzuucGYSzNvQ 8XChjZtEHc3hmZn28fOABYq3IuXmonY8DZa3AodjCawR4WIlqq3olwWcAagTesv/ BbCSZmRH43H2xXLvxdGn =xpLV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 24 14:51:57 2014 Received: (at 18812) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Oct 2014 18:51:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34290 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xhjxs-0002tL-VA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:51:57 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:23684) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xhjxq-0002t6-O7 for 18812@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:51:55 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArUGAIDvNVNFpY87/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSsA9gRcXdIIlAQEBAQIBViMFCwstBxIUGA0kiAQI0hkXjnoHCoQuBKkZgWqDTCE X-IPAS-Result: ArUGAIDvNVNFpY87/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSsA9gRcXdIIlAQEBAQIBViMFCwstBxIUGA0kiAQI0hkXjnoHCoQuBKkZgWqDTCE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="95075732" Received: from 69-165-143-59.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.143.59]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 24 Oct 2014 14:51:48 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 6786F8587; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:51:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Phil Hagelberg Subject: Re: bug#18812: 24.4; url.el user agent does not include Emacs version Message-ID: References: <87fveexyjb.fsf@enigma.home.hagelb.org> <87k33pigk8.fsf@enigma.home.hagelb.org> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 14:51:48 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87k33pigk8.fsf@enigma.home.hagelb.org> (Phil Hagelberg's message of "Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:21:59 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18812 Cc: 18812@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > Personally, I am curious about the new signing features in > package.el. However, since these don't work in versions of Emacs older > than 24.4, I thought it would be interesting to examine the access logs > of Marmalade to see how fast the adoption of 24.4 is going. You don't need the version number for that: just check (failed?) accesses to the *.sig files, since Emacs-24.4 will automatically look for them by default. The advantage is that this will also account for the 24.4 users who don't have GPG installed (since for those, package.el won't look for .sig files). Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 24 15:18:01 2014 Received: (at 18812) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Oct 2014 19:18:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34301 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XhkN6-0003Wv-9J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 15:18:00 -0400 Received: from fely.am-1.org ([78.47.74.50]:37345) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XhkN3-0003Wm-Nl for 18812@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 15:17:58 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=siamics.net; s=a2013295; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:Sender:References:Subject:To:From; bh=QM8MaHRlDsz5zYUCF6f3sx/qxYrOku/Fpil7B+M6z/E=; b=BUOISZX8Qi3sNBIbMTK6MCDJo6v5u16lCPTV05kyQ3l7QFoDwnp7ro8B2aVeu+4BE0HZBlJ9DrTlLY1IdV7Qq2lqHDH3KuppaacE/kG1tQk/0AN3IXR+DHxYTYD5xFcbuuY7/5WHkurDWho8iENjdFkDeyxyUPvsQDPqDcoeTxg=; Received: from [2a02:2560:6d4:26ca::1:1d] (helo=violet.siamics.net) by fely.am-1.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XhkN1-0000Ow-Nl for 18812@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 19:17:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=violet.siamics.net) by violet.siamics.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XhkMu-0005oF-NT for 18812@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2014 02:17:48 +0700 From: Ivan Shmakov To: 18812@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#18812: 24.4; url.el user agent does not include Emacs version References: <87fveexyjb.fsf@enigma.home.hagelb.org> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 19:17:48 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:48:11 -0400") Message-ID: <87oat1e0pv.fsf@violet.siamics.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18812 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) >>>>> "TZ" =3D=3D Ted Zlatanov writes: >>>>> On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 21:19:21 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: PH> The url.el functions for making HTTP requests set the User-Agent PH> header to "URL/Emacs" which is not very descriptive. It would be PH> helpful to include the Emacs version, at least. SM> Other people feel like it's already too descriptive. Why should SM> all Emacs users constantly tell the whole world exactly which Emacs SM> version they're running? TZ> Web browsers do. It helps web developers and is not particularly TZ> sensitive if only the major.minor version is used (without too much TZ> detail). Web browsers (and HTTP/HTTPS clients in general) also provide a way for the user to override the default User-Agent: value, and I believe that Emacs should allow for that, too. While somewhat tangential to the problem as reported, some of the issues I=E2=80=99ve seen with the default User-Agent: settings are: =E2=80=A2 Lynx=E2=80=99 default User-Agent: includes =E2=80=98libwww=E2=80= =99 as a substring; apparently, some Web sites mistake that for the well-known Perl library of the same name, and thus reject the requests; the solution is to either manually remove the respective stanza, or to disable User-Agent: altogether; =E2=80=A2 other sites are known to disallow HTTP requests /without/ User-Agent:, however; =E2=80=A2 GNU Wget default identification is also not unknown to be rejected; per my experience, using something like =E2=80=9CtegW/1.15=E2= =80=9D instead (via --user-agent=3D) tends to resolve the issue; =E2=80=A2 moreover, some sites actually serve different content depending on User-Agent:, =E2=80=93 apparently for =E2=80=9CSEO=E2=80=9D= purposes; for instance, a PDF file is served for a request from a party identifying itself as a search engine, while regular browsers get a Web page with a (presumably non-free) JavaScript-based PDF reader set up for that file instead. --=20 FSF associate member #7257 http://boycottsystemd.org/ =E2=80=A6 3013 B6A0= 230E 334A From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 24 16:37:47 2014 Received: (at 18812) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Oct 2014 20:37:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34334 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XhlcI-0005S9-GD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:37:46 -0400 Received: from mail-pa0-f43.google.com ([209.85.220.43]:63311) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XhlcE-0005Rs-7R for 18812@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:37:42 -0400 Received: by mail-pa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id eu11so1787431pac.2 for <18812@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 13:37:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=CVhjS32i0yKFzJ7jMiF4l/Fzy8pxlIiOVbb+jyx4/v8=; b=FM8AAk/jNgq280NIJ+X4uqpGoj6DhAGP3h4fSranqYrAsNweB4RDuxxCotUKWmG5O0 EWG69bXUWwyYwfP1H8vLLGgqHj4EDV6cnj0rvrnQ3lqzvKe0th6v78Ay9OBtWsDPp7H8 zJaEg2z6dUcrDxwbEgcVShgOlJ6lnHKr/h7wkNZ/d9Jxk3s9TwzpnUheV6sJASV+k7pL 97VTLT1C9O+jNmIeAc+l4WG7tvXTy/U1XpLW7y12idfRqARHZJf8VAlsui3Xjp71nau8 YqfQLd9RmLL3y/LybuFDtXCofbbplJVI0kHqZz1tDs4TLiaayQzThBOL1QyXDZIE4Vhi c3nA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk3OW5UDahAujG41tZLM+U1tzEwXMiqFsRBxQP4rnSvsiUX81fu2ifBgRp1NzB80Y9Aq1Wn X-Received: by 10.68.175.196 with SMTP id cc4mr4849018pbc.147.1414183055833; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 13:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from enigma.home.hagelb.org (ip98-176-102-162.sd.sd.cox.net. [98.176.102.162]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id vt1sm4637759pab.17.2014.10.24.13.37.32 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 24 Oct 2014 13:37:34 -0700 (PDT) References: <87fveexyjb.fsf@enigma.home.hagelb.org> <87k33pigk8.fsf@enigma.home.hagelb.org> User-agent: mu4e 0.9.9.6pre2; emacs 24.4.1 From: Phil Hagelberg To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#18812: 24.4; url.el user agent does not include Emacs version In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 13:37:25 -0700 Message-ID: <87fvedi4qi.fsf@enigma.home.hagelb.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18812 Cc: 18812@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Stefan Monnier writes: > You don't need the version number for that: just check (failed?) > accesses to the *.sig files, since Emacs-24.4 will automatically look > for them by default. I can imagine other sites that would want to know this information, but that works for me. -Phil --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUSriFAAoJEJKJPaQ/wzAFyaAQAK2e/avfjxCeYtjLLzFtZehw iF7GwDjF+8RHOZlr3LpFKOf6jYcc7vNumowFJ+mCZxDRmtK77l87kwZMesBwXi0w bdon7+Fi1A0zYtRcAZu1nWPswDlzHK9dRq7TXAqDs/MpOfyEcUO0Myf4jS3UGgmr TXp2+L3C3R1r1akZJ2aflznr0Xi29AWcwmaXlndzalZ6vMZCeHQx0l+c+njKq0jS uQ1PdyExawpazkOywwaxdvpaJu0BwefqJ3sARZy85v2u6ikzMhabIlxMFp0runwo ID/qL32BF556OMjoxpqphiFhXxSZCex8e49gzWXPC/vM9wyPZpkIJJ1U0TqLEAFd cyNcx+KPDEZmboIJPLkqEcgoS93RH5mnZMUBf1XID6uPSNEEXAzxZrAF3OeJRIzC eVh3Vnnfmjlw05KmdZgZGe0z3eWLFHx4hIOt+hXKm6WsFyQC4TTD8UffHMN2pKPH R65mlfOKHUDHTqaeEheTVLsWqmfJsxo1Bp/7JJpr1AElThKHtD7hah2CJrztN7us IFZBqFzMp1QC13sj3Lv+yde5uo36DrWkx6MCl4o8Wn31gdlGcj/OB6FM8C+hmauN 0+f6ZYIErnLW1IjXHLPnzPkOIdZOTUiZnwb4RiUm/w8Zg8v54cNIycWPxlPnQcAM Ixfi2WXr4p2VmhclwaN2 =ivTe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 25 14:27:12 2015 Received: (at 18812) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Dec 2015 19:27:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35359 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aCY1A-000682-4R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 14:27:12 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:56497) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aCY18-00067u-HE for 18812@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 14:27:10 -0500 Received: from 2.150.58.24.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.58.24] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aCY0l-0003C5-V2; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 20:26:48 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Phil Hagelberg Subject: Re: bug#18812: 24.4; url.el user agent does not include Emacs version References: <87fveexyjb.fsf@enigma.home.hagelb.org> Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 20:26:47 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87fveexyjb.fsf@enigma.home.hagelb.org> (Phil Hagelberg's message of "Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:32:24 -0700") Message-ID: <874mf6wcqw.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1aCY0l-0003C5-V2 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1451676408.14281@ovZHKPtpwNHIMtTaI/KkAg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18812 Cc: 18812@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Phil Hagelberg writes: > The url.el functions for making HTTP requests set the User-Agent header > to "URL/Emacs" which is not very descriptive. It would be helpful to > include the Emacs version, at least. You can now customise this with the `url-user-agent' variable. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 25 14:27:17 2015 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Dec 2015 19:27:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35362 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aCY1F-00068L-B2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 14:27:17 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:56505) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aCY1D-00068C-Ph for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 14:27:15 -0500 Received: from 2.150.58.24.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.58.24] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aCY0s-0003CL-6f for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Dec 2015 20:26:54 +0100 Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 20:26:52 +0100 Message-Id: <8737uqwcqr.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #18812 X-MailScanner-ID: 1aCY0s-0003CL-6f X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1451676414.39153@CbbCdCG1uV4v9uyLLdOx4Q X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) close 18812 From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:58:06 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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