From unknown Mon Jun 23 15:01:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18798: ls -Rd = ls -d so maybe warn Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 17:24:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 18798 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 18798@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.141399859020843 (code B ref -1); Wed, 22 Oct 2014 17:24:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Oct 2014 17:23:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60128 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xgzcs-0005Q7-1m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 13:23:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39109) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xgzcq-0005Pu-38 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 13:23:08 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xgzcb-0002K8-31 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 13:23:02 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:34045) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xgzcb-0002K4-0G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 13:22:53 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40796) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XgzcT-0006QG-BE for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 13:22:52 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XgzcL-0002IW-Rv for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 13:22:45 -0400 Received: from homie.mail.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.208]:45951 helo=homiemail-a9.g.dreamhost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XgzcL-00020k-MG for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 13:22:37 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a9.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a9.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F0962607A for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 10:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jidanni.org (114-41-7-54.dynamic.hinet.net [114.41.7.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a9.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CEB7D626077 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 10:22:20 -0700 (PDT) From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 01:22:18 +0800 Message-ID: <87bnp4qat1.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) One finds that -d completely nullifies any -R flag of ls, so maybe print a warning etc. Or warn on the man page, etc. From unknown Mon Jun 23 15:01:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18798: ls -Rd = ls -d so maybe warn Resent-From: "L. A. Walsh" Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 02:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18798 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Cc: 18798@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18798-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18798.141403132810047 (code B ref 18798); Thu, 23 Oct 2014 02:29:02 +0000 Received: (at 18798) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2014 02:28:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60399 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xh88t-0002bz-Om for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 22:28:48 -0400 Received: from ishtar.tlinx.org ([173.164.175.65]:34430 helo=Ishtar.hs.tlinx.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xh88r-0002bo-OR for 18798@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 22:28:46 -0400 Received: from [192.168.4.12] (Athenae [192.168.4.12]) by Ishtar.hs.tlinx.org (8.14.7/8.14.4/SuSE Linux 0.8) with ESMTP id s9N2SddU096840; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 19:28:42 -0700 Message-ID: <544867D7.4050806@tlinx.org> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 19:28:39 -0700 From: "L. A. Walsh" User-Agent: Thunderbird MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87bnp4qat1.fsf@jidanni.org> In-Reply-To: <87bnp4qat1.fsf@jidanni.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote: > One finds that -d completely nullifies any -R flag of ls, > so maybe print a warning etc. Or warn on the man page, etc. What would you want it to do? "-d" says to show info on the directory and NOT expand it. "-d" says give info on the "name" that you type in rather than any contents. The "-R" says to recursively expand any names that point to directories, but you just told "ls" to show all of the input arguments as names-only (with -d) and not expand any contents... So what can '-R' expand? I.e. -- what would you expect "-R" to do in such a circumstance -- or rather, what would you *want* it to do?.. *curious* Linda... From unknown Mon Jun 23 15:01:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18798: ls -Rd = ls -d so maybe warn In-Reply-To: <87bnp4qat1.fsf@jidanni.org> Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 02:47:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18798 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "L. A. Walsh" Cc: 18798@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18798-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18798.141403236511956 (code B ref 18798); Thu, 23 Oct 2014 02:47:01 +0000 Received: (at 18798) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2014 02:46:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60412 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xh8Pd-00036l-5q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 22:46:05 -0400 Received: from homie.mail.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.208]:51813 helo=homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xh8PZ-00036F-8V for 18798@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 22:46:02 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D725704063; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 19:46:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=t6bG+lsRZcDBp8uj2O1M5jJh1tc=; b=UWuisoOz4em5w vbloY78VXGPsK3VomPT+XxwyQwufbEW8jYL+2TnsM7fVCVGnJocCGw8IL4dnru7k ZbyN4QaPjbCgNRcm0wxtTSHpoSgSkIbUDdNCMitzfMqpXkDTiWd/pqqaTf/9W2Sn GwcTQqgpwI66l3nOBGPxG23yHGTd5g= Received: from jidanni.org (122-118-147-75.dynamic.hinet.net [122.118.147.75]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F2CE8704060; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 19:45:59 -0700 (PDT) From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson References: <87bnp4qat1.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 10:45:56 +0800 Message-ID: <874muvcxln.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) I was thinking maybe ls -Rd would be like ls -R, but only show directories, not also regular files too. I don't think any behavior should be changed. I just think some note about that combination should be added to the docs. From unknown Mon Jun 23 15:01:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18798: ls -Rd = ls -d so maybe warn Resent-From: Bob Proulx Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 18:03:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18798 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Cc: 18798@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18798-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18798.141408735318993 (code B ref 18798); Thu, 23 Oct 2014 18:03:01 +0000 Received: (at 18798) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2014 18:02:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33212 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XhMiW-0004wH-T3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:02:33 -0400 Received: from joseki.proulx.com ([216.17.153.58]:50445) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XhMiT-0004w8-Ud for 18798@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:02:30 -0400 Received: from hysteria.proulx.com (hysteria.proulx.com [192.168.230.119]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9B621229; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 12:02:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by hysteria.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AD5902DC35; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 12:02:28 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 12:02:28 -0600 From: Bob Proulx Message-ID: <20141023115529521332641@bob.proulx.com> References: <87bnp4qat1.fsf@jidanni.org> <874muvcxln.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <874muvcxln.fsf@jidanni.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote: > I was thinking maybe ls -Rd would be like ls -R, but only show > directories, not also regular files too. There is always grep for simple things. ls -l | grep ^d Once you start wanting to filter the listing by the type of object then you really should start to use 'find' since 'find' is *the* program designed for doing exactly that task. find . -type d > I don't think any behavior should be changed. I just think some note > about that combination should be added to the docs. The --help output says: -d, --directory list directories themselves, not their contents The documentation currently says: ‘-d’ ‘--directory’ List just the names of directories, as with other types of files, rather than listing their contents. Do not follow symbolic links listed on the command line unless the ‘--dereference-command-line’ (‘-H’), ‘--dereference’ (‘-L’), or ‘--dereference-command-line-symlink-to-dir’ options are specified. What would you say there instead of or in addition to the above? Bob From unknown Mon Jun 23 15:01:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18798: ls -Rd = ls -d so maybe warn In-Reply-To: <87bnp4qat1.fsf@jidanni.org> Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 18:18:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18798 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Bob Proulx Cc: 18798@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18798-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18798.141408825620445 (code B ref 18798); Thu, 23 Oct 2014 18:18:01 +0000 Received: (at 18798) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Oct 2014 18:17:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33225 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XhMx5-0005Jg-CY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:17:35 -0400 Received: from homie.mail.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.208]:39634 helo=homiemail-a99.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XhMx3-0005JY-0u for 18798@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:17:33 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a99.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a99.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10C5CFB0077; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:17:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jidanni.org (114-41-14-42.dynamic.hinet.net [114.41.14.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a99.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A4E6FFB0075; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:17:31 -0700 (PDT) From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson References: <87bnp4qat1.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 02:17:26 +0800 Message-ID: <8738ae4pmx.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) All I'm saying is that if one has never used the program, one cannot really guess what will happen with the combination of -R and -d just by reading the documentation. Indeed there are a few other switches that nullify one another too. >>>>> "BP" == Bob Proulx writes: BP> What would you say there instead of or in addition to the above? I don't really know the best words. I'll leave that to the Pro(ulx)s :-) From unknown Mon Jun 23 15:01:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18798: ls -Rd = ls -d so maybe warn Resent-From: Assaf Gordon Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2018 01:09:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18798 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 18798@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18798-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18798.153991129025533 (code B ref 18798); Fri, 19 Oct 2018 01:09:01 +0000 Received: (at 18798) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Oct 2018 01:08:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57859 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gDJGs-0006dg-2M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Oct 2018 21:08:10 -0400 Received: from mail-pg1-f177.google.com ([209.85.215.177]:46056) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gDJGq-0006dG-1l; Thu, 18 Oct 2018 21:08:08 -0400 Received: by mail-pg1-f177.google.com with SMTP id s3-v6so1780443pga.12; Thu, 18 Oct 2018 18:08:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CFmNdaaoTYo2jtamFRkiovYqI7RFa/6zLR/TuxCyUeg=; b=UgomUhRv4+wK0t5QLsdC+/CL0juy+uf/6F4pKulMaw2Wg/Vrj/xx82qDuHt9wYvjM+ PKe/mFuouZkIoxNqYhc2fSnMBTOIt707j2fAqr8+XS5Woigkai/n1LgYh9ZBzvUJyXfM wVBJBXAg2fD6v+f3lc7WyjbxzeAwTAgqvmaSjEBjc3odGTBXBVvLersw5OKDZyb01yxS CO9KdNOYPxonz1ADQqNDkpbZk+Bb7fP7hPETk0NJGcQsldFECEn7MoSPt9QbmEoe2+Tv bHG6+isU86uMJZjH6w5g/ipriEHz0r3nbsxVcECrMLC7AOvRT/gmUCFCzrac7v0tidSr dK2g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=CFmNdaaoTYo2jtamFRkiovYqI7RFa/6zLR/TuxCyUeg=; b=PH+Lam/hsbRTVY3XismJQ0BKses7VK63/kYbB47xOyeINor76buGkl+HGOTsxgLd4g SWQnjKsgT6fcN28SCMm6VgF6SIGgo9kh5u7WvV5akA8t+wLiXGuUkbLtFeiRfCd6sa0/ q67GGoStNwbiA6w/FxZb7pm3KmtnvwC0f/6gTd4DY5RJcxCZy9lc+XoQ29dyVh7efZkF 2JB4FcyW3KWq4EUb5sOkwE8+i9ERMatAPIgvfC2Eg89RdvHOW8YPsl177SeVFY3fZht1 44NMJ+IqkAOHOYvSNYlt//Zz3MITgLdqOwMycbioO0pyc9L1YD9/o+rG5nhVSV+jdASv hQRw== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfojs4uX/uv0uKWtSAfLEABP5279xXH88wcNABpg7QoWuyXBctW0M u5rSqY9XUQgGEvbs5ToW/GOqQ5IKVI0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV61QXfqVkGWHgo8UrhE5j8L0mdk92amS766n8xtITLPvLQY/sYJJmqwAe79pOVeQcKjGEwed0A== X-Received: by 2002:a62:5982:: with SMTP id k2-v6mr31887119pfj.180.1539911281505; Thu, 18 Oct 2018 18:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomato.housegordon.com (moose.housegordon.com. [184.68.105.38]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 84-v6sm26759556pfv.33.2018.10.18.18.07.59 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 18 Oct 2018 18:08:00 -0700 (PDT) References: <87bnp4qat1.fsf@jidanni.org> <8738ae4pmx.fsf@jidanni.org> From: Assaf Gordon Message-ID: <67ceb4a1-cb37-5bd5-052a-bac003477933@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 19:07:59 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8738ae4pmx.fsf@jidanni.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 18798 moreinfo close 18798 stop (triaging old bugs) On 23/10/14 12:17 PM, 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote: >>>>>> "BP" == Bob Proulx writes: > > BP> What would you say there instead of or in addition to the above? > > I don't really know the best words. I'll leave that to the Pro(ulx)s :-) > With no further follow-ups and no concrete suggestions in 4 years, I'm closing this bug. Discussion can continue by replying to this thread. regards, - assaf