From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:18:24 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#18710 <18710@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#18710 <18710@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.3; icalendar-import-file does not respect daylight savings Reply-To: bug#18710 <18710@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 04:18:24 +0000 retitle 18710 24.3; icalendar-import-file does not respect daylight savings reassign 18710 emacs submitter 18710 Christophe Troestler severity 18710 normal tag 18710 patch thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 13 15:45:51 2014 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Oct 2014 19:45:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42880 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XdlYz-0003fS-U9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2014 15:45:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54549) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XdlYw-0003fH-9f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; 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japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) ----Next_Part(Mon_Oct_13_17_12_26_2014_979)-- Content-Type: text/calendar; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="a.ics" BEGIN:VCALENDAR VERSION:2.0 PRODID;LANGUAGE=fr:Copyright Index-Education - HYPERPLANNING 2014 METHOD:PUBLISH X-CALSTART:20140915T000000Z X-CALEND:20150913T000000Z X-WR-CALNAME;LANGUAGE=fr:HYP - XXX X-WR-CALDESC;LANGUAGE=fr:XXX BEGIN:VEVENT CATEGORIES:HYPERPLANNING DTSTAMP:20141013T170144Z LAST-MODIFIED:20141009T141510Z UID: XXX DTSTART:20141103T121500Z DTEND:20141103T141500Z SUMMARY;LANGUAGE=fr:XXX LOCATION;LANGUAGE=fr:NiP.0A07 DESCRIPTION;LANGUAGE=fr:XXX END:VEVENT ----Next_Part(Mon_Oct_13_17_12_26_2014_979)---- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 14 11:34:09 2014 Received: (at 18710) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Oct 2014 15:34:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43410 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xe46z-0005fd-Kd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:34:09 -0400 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.4]:58494) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xe46w-0005fP-JN; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:34:07 -0400 Received: from p55m-ud2 ([217.226.83.194]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LecN4-1XxVwr1dsM-00qQwc; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 17:34:03 +0200 From: Ulf Jasper To: Christophe Troestler , 18710-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#18710: 24.3; icalendar-import-file does not respect daylight savings References: <20141013.171226.1434665086087486275.Christophe.Troestler@umons.ac.be> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 17:34:00 +0200 Message-ID: <87tx36zmvr.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:axwRHoGO3Bb2m96YuD2kcksgdGAU2Q0aDEPIcGMMuNxZtzAb38D dJfV8RAcsdb7JvOohuZzUfuhg6RSVl4PhpVejSf5bSGPea76sSQ895J9DT4D/Ucn/9k90ly lIYbVo+a6U1B/JGzE5NL0UeYASJH/Ul3UQI8YiEdQbVvWRlYGCql74fvAa2H+WeGWDv6unH asBfhOSE/5+Yprmwu48OQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18710 Cc: 18710@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Christophe Troestler writes: > but when I convert the attached ICS calendar containing an event with > the following dates: > > DTSTART:20141103T121500Z > DTEND:20141103T141500Z > > with (icalendar-import-file "a.ics" "a"), I get > > 3/11/2014 14:15-16:15 ... > > Thus the conversion did not use the fact that, at this date, the > winter time (UTC+1) is in use and not UTC+2 (the current time). Thanks for reporting. This is a duplicate of bug #15408 which has been resolved on trunk. Closing this bug. BTW: `calendar-daylight-savings-starts-time' and `calendar-daylight-savings-ends-time' are not important here. Rather it is `calendar-daylight-savings-starts' and `calendar-daylight-savings-ends'. But you probably would not need to touch these either. Please have a look at the "Daylight Saving Time" section in the Emacs manual. 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