From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 09 18:28:25 2014 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Oct 2014 22:28:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39538 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XcMC9-00085u-CJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 18:28:25 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44954) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XcMC7-00085n-S1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 18:28:24 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XcMC2-0001g9-Ud for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 18:28:23 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:42908) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XcMC2-0001g4-S3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 18:28:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46658) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XcMBy-00030X-9G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 18:28:18 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XcMBr-0001ew-51 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 18:28:14 -0400 Received: from defaultvalue.org ([70.85.129.156]:54230) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XcMBr-0001e0-1M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 18:28:07 -0400 Received: from trouble.defaultvalue.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: rlb@defaultvalue.org) by defaultvalue.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 14D0320A30; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 17:28:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: by trouble.defaultvalue.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ACB0814E422; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 17:28:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Rob Browning To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Re: Bug#762435: emacs24: Warning message from GLib-GObject In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Notmuch/0.18.1 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 17:28:05 -0500 Message-ID: <87zjd4280a.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: 762435-forwarded@bugs.debian.org, Santiago Vila , 762435@bugs.debian.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) [When possible, please preserve the -forwarded address in any replies.] Recently reported to Debian. Santiago Vila writes: > Package: emacs24 > Version: 24.3+1-5+b1 > > Hello Rob. I got this today under unstable: > > (emacs:29258): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: The property GtkMisc:xalign is > deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a > future version. > > which apparently means emacs is using some obsolete feature of Gtk. cf. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=762435 Thanks -- Rob Browning rlb @defaultvalue.org and @debian.org GPG as of 2011-07-10 E6A9 DA3C C9FD 1FF8 C676 D2C4 C0F0 39E9 ED1B 597A GPG as of 2002-11-03 14DD 432F AE39 534D B592 F9A0 25C8 D377 8C7E 73A4 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 10 12:03:31 2014 Received: (at 18674) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Oct 2014 16:03:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40267 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XccfC-0005R2-Hd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:03:30 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:51109) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XccfA-0005Qu-94 for 18674@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:03:28 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xccf9-00078L-DY; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:03:27 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 18674@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#18674: Bug#762435: emacs24: Warning message from GLib-GObject References: <87zjd4280a.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> X-Spook: bullion AMW Crowell mailbomb Telex Bellcore Marxist CISU X-Ran: V>V_212CiDx;?/>D'2:svk!77/9UuI!+Pc/7]02J"Y#rr/,yVG6jaSA=U^'PnkwVE3]Pw4 X-Hue: red X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:03:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87zjd4280a.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> (Rob Browning's message of "Thu, 09 Oct 2014 17:28:05 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18674 Cc: Jan =?utf-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > GLib-GObject-WARNING **: The property GtkMisc:xalign is deprecated Apparently gtk_misc_set_alignment is deprecated: https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkMisc.html gtk_misc_set_alignment has been deprecated since version 3.14 and should not be used in newly-written code. Use GtkWidget alignment and margin properties. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Oct 11 06:42:59 2014 Received: (at 18674) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Oct 2014 10:42:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40772 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xcu8Y-0006ih-Eb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 06:42:58 -0400 Received: from mailfe03.swip.net ([212.247.154.65]:41620 helo=swip.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xcu8U-0006iX-96 for 18674@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 06:42:56 -0400 X-T2-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40 Received: from hosdjarv.se (account mj138573@tele2.se [46.59.42.57] verified) by mailfe03.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPA id 372261167; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 12:42:47 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: bug#18674: Bug#762435: emacs24: Warning message from GLib-GObject From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 12:42:46 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4B2BAE6C-A2E5-4F5A-AE43-D56AA1038C94@swipnet.se> References: <87zjd4280a.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> To: Glenn Morris X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18674 Cc: 18674@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Hi. 10 okt 2014 kl. 18:03 skrev Glenn Morris : >=20 >> GLib-GObject-WARNING **: The property GtkMisc:xalign is deprecated >=20 > Apparently gtk_misc_set_alignment is deprecated: >=20 > https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkMisc.html >=20 > gtk_misc_set_alignment has been deprecated since version 3.14 and = should > not be used in newly-written code. >=20 > Use GtkWidget alignment and margin properties. The problem is they don't do exactly the same, but it might be good = enough for Emacs. We use other deprecated stuff, like stock items (deprecated in 3.10). = Every Gtk release deprecates a lot of stuff, those guys can never seem = to decide on anything. I don't know if these should be fixed in emacs-24 or not. Emacs 24 probably won't compile on Gnome 4, but chances are we have a = bugfix release out before Gnome 4, or even 25.1.= From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Oct 11 13:31:23 2014 Received: (at 18674) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Oct 2014 17:31:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41272 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xd0Vm-0001vN-SN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 13:31:23 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:50866) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xd0Vk-0001vC-1B for 18674@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 13:31:20 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xd0Vg-0008MF-9O; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 13:31:16 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Jan =?utf-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Subject: Re: bug#18674: Bug#762435: emacs24: Warning message from GLib-GObject References: <87zjd4280a.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <4B2BAE6C-A2E5-4F5A-AE43-D56AA1038C94@swipnet.se> X-Spook: unclassified Saddam Hussein CISU Reno Crowell Mantis X-Ran: tdCa3g1%JRk\vWk~Jaqw_@~X|S'xrt7?YMEP(u5PZ{3^GdI?&N2Qn@v7r3).G/vs:HAeB4 X-Hue: red X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 13:31:15 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4B2BAE6C-A2E5-4F5A-AE43-D56AA1038C94@swipnet.se> ("Jan =?utf-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv=22's?= message of "Sat, 11 Oct 2014 12:42:46 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18674 Cc: 18674@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) Jan Dj=C3=A4rv wrote: > I don't know if these should be fixed in emacs-24 or not. My feeling is not. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Oct 12 00:34:40 2014 Received: (at 18674) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Oct 2014 04:34:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41409 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XdArg-0003cf-1m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 00:34:40 -0400 Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:54055) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XdArd-0003cU-J5 for 18674@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 00:34:38 -0400 Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id s9C4YRmt013100; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 00:34:28 -0400 Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id D565AAE0BA; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 00:34:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Jan =?windows-1252?Q?Dj=E4rv?= Subject: Re: bug#18674: Bug#762435: emacs24: Warning message from GLib-GObject Message-ID: References: <87zjd4280a.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <4B2BAE6C-A2E5-4F5A-AE43-D56AA1038C94@swipnet.se> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 00:34:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4B2BAE6C-A2E5-4F5A-AE43-D56AA1038C94@swipnet.se> ("Jan =?windows-1252?Q?Dj=E4rv=22's?= message of "Sat, 11 Oct 2014 12:42:46 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV5091=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9378 : core <5091> : inlines <1393> : streams <1314526> : uri <1824007> X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18674 Cc: Glenn Morris , 18674@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) > Every Gtk release deprecates a lot of stuff, those guys can never seem to > decide on anything. To be fair, we do kind of the same [ Not sure how we compare in terms of number of years between declaring something obsolete and actually removing it, tho. ] At least for things we deprecate, I don't expect everyone to immediately start using the new functionality, because many Elisp packages want to provide compatibility with older releases, so I think it's OK for Emacs to use deprecated Emacs interfaces as long as they've been deprecated recently. But we should update the code to use the new replacement "as soon as possible" within the limits of our manpower and the added complexity of potentially having to support both the old and the new functionality at the same time (via configure tests, typically). > I don't know if these should be fixed in emacs-24 or not. No, much too late for that. > Emacs 24 probably won't compile on Gnome 4, but chances are we have a bugfix > release out before Gnome 4, or even 25.1. If/when this is a problem, we can indeed release a bug-fix for it. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 14 14:35:53 2014 Received: (at 18674) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Oct 2014 18:35:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43471 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xe6wr-0005ji-5J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:35:53 -0400 Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:54707) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xe6wp-0005jY-Fm for 18674@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:35:51 -0400 Received: from ceviche.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id s9EIZoLe015469; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:35:50 -0400 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 530B266089; Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:35:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Jan =?windows-1252?Q?Dj=E4rv?= Subject: Re: bug#18674: Bug#762435: emacs24: Warning message from GLib-GObject Message-ID: References: <87zjd4280a.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <4B2BAE6C-A2E5-4F5A-AE43-D56AA1038C94@swipnet.se> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:35:50 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 12 Oct 2014 00:34:25 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Level: X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0.2 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 2 Rules triggered GEN_SPAM_FEATRE=0.2, RV5094=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9378 : core <5094> : inlines <1396> : streams <1316771> : uri <1824897> X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18674 Cc: Glenn Morris , 18674@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) > provide compatibility with older releases, so I think it's OK for Emacs > to use deprecated Emacs interfaces as long as they've been ^^^^^ Gtk Sorry, Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Oct 19 12:33:14 2014 Received: (at 18674-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Oct 2014 16:33:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55918 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XftPt-0005uQ-Td for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 12:33:14 -0400 Received: from mailfe01.swip.net ([212.247.154.1]:45713 helo=swip.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XftPq-0005uC-KO for 18674-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 12:33:11 -0400 X-T2-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 Received: from hosdjarv.se (account mj138573@tele2.se [46.59.42.57] verified) by mailfe01.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPA id 538066938; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 18:33:02 +0200 Message-ID: <5443E7BD.9000301@swipnet.se> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 18:33:01 +0200 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#18674: Bug#762435: emacs24: Warning message from GLib-GObject References: <87zjd4280a.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <4B2BAE6C-A2E5-4F5A-AE43-D56AA1038C94@swipnet.se> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18674-done Cc: Glenn Morris , 18674-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Hello. This is fixed in trunk. We have one deprecated call left, gtk_widget_set_double_buffered. We can't get rid of that without adding Gtk rendering (i.e. Cairo) and only rendering in callbacks, that is on expose events. This is a major job. Jan D. Den 2014-10-12 06:34, Stefan Monnier skrev: >> Every Gtk release deprecates a lot of stuff, those guys can never seem to >> decide on anything. > > To be fair, we do kind of the same [ Not sure how we compare in terms of > number of years between declaring something obsolete and actually > removing it, tho. ] > > At least for things we deprecate, I don't expect everyone to immediately > start using the new functionality, because many Elisp packages want to > provide compatibility with older releases, so I think it's OK for Emacs > to use deprecated Emacs interfaces as long as they've been > deprecated recently. > > But we should update the code to use the new replacement "as soon as > possible" within the limits of our manpower and the added complexity of > potentially having to support both the old and the new functionality at > the same time (via configure tests, typically). > >> I don't know if these should be fixed in emacs-24 or not. > > No, much too late for that. > >> Emacs 24 probably won't compile on Gnome 4, but chances are we have a bugfix >> release out before Gnome 4, or even 25.1. > > If/when this is a problem, we can indeed release a bug-fix for it. > > > Stefan > From unknown Mon Jun 23 13:14:12 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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