From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 07 14:29:59 2014 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2014 18:29:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36875 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XbZWI-0000Yr-TE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 14:29:59 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43081) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XbZWH-0000Yj-30 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 14:29:57 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbZW8-0002Ru-D4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 14:29:56 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:35159) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbZW8-0002Ri-A4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 14:29:48 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44763) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbZW0-00070O-Hf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 14:29:48 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbZVs-0002Qo-Vg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 14:29:40 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:35254) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbZVs-0002Qk-PM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 14:29:32 -0400 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s97ITUgh010733 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 18:29:31 GMT Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s97ITUCQ028660 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 18:29:30 GMT Received: from abhmp0004.oracle.com (abhmp0004.oracle.com [141.146.116.10]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s97ITTOG028649 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 18:29:30 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <9a22e7a5-0b06-4ca3-8698-11dfebd8e62d@default> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 11:29:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.4.50; positioning frames on multi-monitor displays X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) This is a followup to the thread for bug #18637. Please see that thread. It's not clear to me how to understand/calculate which monitor a given frame will be displayed on, or how (if at all possible) to control which monitor is used. What the code in question does is to (a) save the original `left', `top', `width', and `height' frame parameter values for a frame, and then to change those, using `modify-frame-parameters', to resize the frame to a "maximized" size (in quotes because the size does not necessarily correspond exactly to what maximize might mean for the window manager, and window-manager maximization is not employed). The "restore" part of the code then calls `modify-frame-parameters' to set the `left' etc. parameters back to the saved (original) values. (The values are saved in new frame paramters, `restore-left', etc.) The code does not delete or create any frames. It just sets those frame parameters. The problem encountered is that the monitor in which the frame is displayed changes. The aim is to keep the frame on the same monitor, regardless of the size change. The OP reporting the problem is not, I think, on MS Windows, but I test the code only on Windows. The problem reported is likely on more than one platform. I would be interested in a platform-independent solution. The code in question is commands `maximize-frame' and `restore-frame' in this library: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs-en/download/frame-cmds.el. This other library is required by that one, in general: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs-en/download/frame-fns.el. In GNU Emacs 24.4.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2014-09-15 on LEG570 Bzr revision: 117884 dancol@dancol.org-20140915050944-sqsajysnwef51f9m Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --enable-checking 'CFLAGS=3D-O0 -g3' CPPFLAGS=3D-DGLYPH_DEBUG= =3D1' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 07 17:18:20 2014 Received: (at 18657) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2014 21:18:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37015 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xbc9D-0004ro-HP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 17:18:19 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:31869) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xbc9B-0004rg-II for 18657@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 17:18:18 -0400 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s97LIGY7027486 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <18657@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 21:18:16 GMT Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s97LIFFF006252 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for <18657@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 21:18:16 GMT Received: from abhmp0013.oracle.com (abhmp0013.oracle.com [141.146.116.19]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s97LIE3j015295 for <18657@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 21:18:14 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <539e4d69-89e1-4be0-8c33-3f916400fbdc@default> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 14:18:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: 18657@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: RE: bug#18657: 24.4.50; positioning frames on multi-monitor displays References: <9a22e7a5-0b06-4ca3-8698-11dfebd8e62d@default> In-Reply-To: <9a22e7a5-0b06-4ca3-8698-11dfebd8e62d@default> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18657 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) As an update, the OP who reported the issue to me confirms that he is using MS Windows (I thought he was not). And he sent me this info from his setup: (frame-parameters): ((tool-bar-position . top) (parent-id) (explicit-name) (display . "w32") (v= isibility . t) (icon-name) (window-id . "459396") (top . 11) (left + -1249)= (buried-buffer-list) (buffer-list # # # # # #) (unsplittable) ... M-x maximize-frame (frame-parameters): ((tool-bar-position . top) (parent-id) (explicit-name) (display . "w32") (v= isibility . t) (icon-name) (window-id . "459396") (top . 0) (left . 0) (bur= ied-buffer-list) (buffer-list # # #= # # #) (unsplittable) ...) M-x restore-frame ((tool-bar-position . top) (parent-id) (explicit-name) (display . "w32") (v= isibility . t) (icon-name) (window-id . "459396") (top . 11) (left + -1249)= (buried-buffer-list) (buffer-list # # # # # #) (unsplittable) ...) Based on that, I've sent him an updated version of `maximize-frame' (from `frame-cmds.el'), which differs only in not using (0,0) as the position coordinates systematically. Instead, it uses this: (nth 1 (assq 'workarea (frame-monitor-attributes frame))) ; For left (nth 2 (assq 'workarea (frame-monitor-attributes frame))) ; For right Andy, perhaps you could try that? [I'm assuming that the `workarea' and `geometry' values are, in order: LEFT TOP, WIDTH HEIGHT. FWIW, The doc of `display-monitor-attributes-list' refers to them as X Y WIDTH HEIGHT, and the doc of `frame-monitor-attributes' refers to the `d-m-a-l' doc. Not so clear (What are X and Y? What units for WIDTH and HEIGHT?), but better than nothing. (BTW, if these essentially follow the `geometry' X Window spec, why is the order changed from what is used for that?)] From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 07 19:56:47 2014 Received: (at 18657) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2014 23:56:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37053 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XbecY-0000Lg-BZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 19:56:46 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:27104) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XbecV-0000LU-QM for 18657@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 19:56:44 -0400 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s97NugAi024412 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <18657@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 23:56:42 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s97NueGb017357 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <18657@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 23:56:41 GMT Received: from abhmp0014.oracle.com (abhmp0014.oracle.com [141.146.116.20]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s97NueuL001251 for <18657@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 23:56:40 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <850964d2-1176-4e30-94d3-a802d1a7a336@default> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 16:56:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: 18657@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: RE: bug#18657: 24.4.50; positioning frames on multi-monitor displays References: <9a22e7a5-0b06-4ca3-8698-11dfebd8e62d@default> <539e4d69-89e1-4be0-8c33-3f916400fbdc@default> In-Reply-To: <539e4d69-89e1-4be0-8c33-3f916400fbdc@default> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18657 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) FYI - The OP tried this code that I suggested, for left and top, instead of 0 and 0, in the `maximize-frame' code of frame-cmds.el: (nth 1 (assq 'workarea (frame-monitor-attributes frame))) ; For left (nth 2 (assq 'workarea (frame-monitor-attributes frame))) ; For top But he does not have Emacs 24.4, so no `frame-monitor-attributes' (and that ultimately depends on C code, so I can't just send him the latest frame.el code to test). He did try substituting (- 1520) instead of 0 for the `left' value, and that positioned the frame pretty much where it should be. Dunno yet whether -1520 would do the same thing. There is nothing in the doc that indicates the formats (or types) of the components of what is returned for `workarea' & `geometry' (there should be). But Andy Moreton's feedback shows that the value can be something like -1520. If there is someone with Emacs 24.4 who could test my `maximize-frame' code with the change I suggested (using the code above, instead of 0, for left and top), that would be good. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 13 18:00:47 2021 Received: (at 18657) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jul 2021 22:00:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42261 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m3QSN-0004Pf-IZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jul 2021 18:00:47 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:35732) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m3QSK-0004PK-3N; Tue, 13 Jul 2021 18:00:45 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=rfaD1A5spx5jGuqJ8Znj3eVufo0ls02KZUugVJF+Ttc=; b=kmk+xZR4v/GGE6gRvRo2RIFOfl U+AeFqEWhWVP8YOaTPTjKKGKQhcgUr39D+CpWXKoaS6pSqgdT9aBqnV2AVGtP9Eisi8kFD2AVtzw1 fwEPgzlSJ4v+j+8Om0XPigrDElAXHsVVR4+fiRlzoqmvNSsRtMjc5DFXWA1XbQph4Y58=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m3QRs-0004xK-33; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 00:00:26 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: bug#18657: 24.4.50; positioning frames on multi-monitor displays References: <9a22e7a5-0b06-4ca3-8698-11dfebd8e62d@default> <539e4d69-89e1-4be0-8c33-3f916400fbdc@default> X-Now-Playing: ANNA's _Kompakt Total 19 (2)_: "Remembrance (Main Mix)" Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 00:00:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: <539e4d69-89e1-4be0-8c33-3f916400fbdc@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 7 Oct 2014 14:18:13 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <877dhtoowg.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Drew Adams writes: > Based on that, I've sent him an updated version of `maximize-frame' > (from `frame-cmds.el'), which differs only in not using (0, 0) as the > position coordinates systematically. Instead, it uses thi [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18657 Cc: 18657@debbugs.gnu.org, 18637@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Drew Adams writes: > Based on that, I've sent him an updated version of `maximize-frame' > (from `frame-cmds.el'), which differs only in not using (0,0) as the > position coordinates systematically. Instead, it uses this: > > (nth 1 (assq 'workarea (frame-monitor-attributes frame))) ; For left > (nth 2 (assq 'workarea (frame-monitor-attributes frame))) ; For right > > Andy, perhaps you could try that? There doesn't really seem to be anything actionable in this bug report, and not a lot in the parent report #18637, either. I think for any progress to be made here, a report describing what problem's you're seeing (if any, these days), and what you think should be done about it should be filed. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: oracle.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 9875c7e3-1628-45f1-777e-08d9464c7329 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 13 Jul 2021 22:20:41.2076 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 4e2c6054-71cb-48f1-bd6c-3a9705aca71b X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: yim5K52xsDn44S5py1xVZinbQKrlBY4LiTS2qlPCsj8sTN6YQnmkFdVMis0kVEPMPdJND69Sp8/0ZNYWP1RTjA== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BY5PR10MB4131 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6200 definitions=10044 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 malwarescore=0 adultscore=0 phishscore=0 spamscore=0 bulkscore=0 mlxlogscore=792 mlxscore=0 suspectscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2104190000 definitions=main-2107130136 X-Proofpoint-GUID: iObBk1JYMW6xj61CN8ZlQrFZCK7bheGA X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: iObBk1JYMW6xj61CN8ZlQrFZCK7bheGA X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18657 Cc: "18657@debbugs.gnu.org" <18657@debbugs.gnu.org>, "18637@debbugs.gnu.org" <18637@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > There doesn't really seem to be anything actionable in this bug report, > and not a lot in the parent report #18637, either. >=20 > I think for any progress to be made here, a report describing what > problem's you're seeing (if any, these days), and what you think should > be done about it should be filed. But I'm closing this report and #18637= . Yet another "won't fix". At least one other user (Andy M) agreed in these threads that "the meaning of geometry/workarea and the coordinate system [need to be] given a little more detail in the docs." Alas, the docs weren't touched (AFAIK). Too bad. From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:12:51 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 11:24:10 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator