From unknown Thu Aug 14 17:28:25 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#1863 <1863@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#1863 <1863@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Improved grep prompt Reply-To: bug#1863 <1863@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 00:28:25 +0000 retitle 1863 Improved grep prompt reassign 1863 emacs submitter 1863 jidanni@jidanni.org severity 1863 wishlist tag 1863 wontfix thanks From jidanni@jidanni.org Sun Jan 11 18:08:00 2009 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 12 Jan 2009 02:08:00 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.0 tests=none autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0C27sIP012944 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:07:55 -0800 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LMCDa-0003pH-6X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:07:54 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LMCDY-0003p5-Kd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:07:52 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55193 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LMCDY-0003p2-F3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:07:52 -0500 Received: from mailbigip.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.5]:58671 helo=homiemail-a4.dreamhost.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LMCDX-0007iR-TL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:07:52 -0500 Received: from jidanni.org (122-127-36-11.dynamic.hinet.net [122.127.36.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by homiemail-a4.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D593141535 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:07:48 -0800 (PST) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Improved grep prompt From: jidanni@jidanni.org Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:07:45 +0800 Message-ID: <87k591p98u.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) Regarding M-x grep, here are the current and improved prompts: Run grep (like this): grep -nH -e Run grep (like this): grep -nH -e [Cursor goes here] * <--and an asterisk here. I.e., @=cursor: Run grep (like this): grep -nH -e @ * If you use my improved prompt suggestion above, no longer will everybody forget to add a filename, and leave thinking "no matches found". From rgm@gnu.org Mon Jan 12 14:07:38 2009 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 12 Jan 2009 22:07:39 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from relay01.kiev.sovam.com (relay01.kiev.sovam.com [62.64.120.200]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0E1LsPb021461 for <1863@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:21:56 -0800 Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay01.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LMuS9-000Dqn-5D; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:21:53 +0200 From: Juri Linkov To: jidanni@jidanni.org Cc: 1863@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#1863: Improved grep prompt Organization: JURTA References: <87k591p98u.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:18:22 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87k591p98u.fsf@jidanni.org> (jidanni@jidanni.org's message of "Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:07:45 +0800") Message-ID: <87priq8z35.fsf@jurta.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Scanner-Signature: dd5701c86360acb8383b46d8fd27d5ab X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Trusted X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 5467 [Oct 22 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: {received from trusted relay: common white list} X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: white ip list X-SpamTest-Rate: 10 X-SpamTest-Status: Trusted X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: trusted X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0278], KAS30/Release > Regarding M-x grep, here are the current and improved prompts: > Run grep (like this): grep -nH -e > Run grep (like this): grep -nH -e [Cursor goes here] * <--and an asterisk here. I.e., @=cursor: > Run grep (like this): grep -nH -e @ * > If you use my improved prompt suggestion above, no longer will > everybody forget to add a filename, and leave thinking "no matches found". Everybody's using rgrep and lgrep these days and never forget a filename ;-) -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/ From jidanni@jidanni.org Tue Jan 13 17:34:01 2009 Received: (at 1863) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 14 Jan 2009 01:34:01 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (sd-green-bigip-74.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.74]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0E1XtpM023900 for <1863@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:33:56 -0800 Received: from jidanni.org (122-127-32-162.dynamic.hinet.net [122.127.32.162]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by homiemail-a1.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A47119DEA; Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:33:54 -0800 (PST) To: juri@jurta.org Cc: 1863@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#1863: Improved grep prompt References: <87priq8z35.fsf@jurta.org> From: jidanni@jidanni.org Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:33:51 +0800 Message-ID: <87y6xe4qo0.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii JL> Everybody's using rgrep and lgrep these days Well I would make M-x grep say that then, with a an option available for those who really want to use the old grep even after finally learning this news. From juri@jurta.org Wed Jan 14 16:15:54 2009 Received: (at 1863) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 15 Jan 2009 00:15:55 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from relay03.kiev.sovam.com (relay03.kiev.sovam.com [62.64.120.201]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0F0Fprm013577 for <1863@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:15:52 -0800 Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay03.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LNFtl-000GQ4-9J; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:15:49 +0200 From: Juri Linkov To: jidanni@jidanni.org Cc: 1863@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#1863: Improved grep prompt Organization: JURTA References: <87priq8z35.fsf@jurta.org> <87y6xe4qo0.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:52:09 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87y6xe4qo0.fsf@jidanni.org> (jidanni@jidanni.org's message of "Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:33:51 +0800") Message-ID: <87mydt4f9y.fsf@jurta.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Scanner-Signature: 88f972a75cd389d721acc69b695bb680 X-DrWeb-checked: yes > JL> Everybody's using rgrep and lgrep these days > Well I would make M-x grep say that then, It already says that. `C-h f grep RET': For doing a recursive `grep', see the `rgrep' command. For running `grep' in a specific directory, see `lgrep'. > with a an option available for those who really want to use the old > grep even after finally learning this news. There is already a template option for the old `grep'. `C-h v grep-command RET': grep-command is a variable defined in `grep.el'. Its value is "grep -nH -e *" Documentation: The default grep command for M-g r e. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/ From jidanni@jidanni.org Wed Jan 14 16:40:44 2009 Received: (at 1863) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 15 Jan 2009 00:40:44 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from homiemail-a3.dreamhost.com (sd-green-bigip-202.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.202]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0F0egUg019538 for <1863@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:40:43 -0800 Received: from jidanni.org (122-127-36-160.dynamic.hinet.net [122.127.36.160]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by homiemail-a3.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3311C483A; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:40:41 -0800 (PST) To: juri@jurta.org Cc: 1863@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#1863: Improved grep prompt References: <87mydt4f9y.fsf@jurta.org> From: jidanni@jidanni.org Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 08:40:39 +0800 Message-ID: <87ljtdcsfs.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii JL> It already says that. JL> `C-h f grep RET': But nobody would look there often. All I know is I took the Tutorial in the 80's and would never know about the two new greps unless alerted somehow. JL> There is already a template option for the old `grep'. JL> grep-command is a variable defined in `grep.el'. JL> Its value is "grep -nH -e *" Ah, newer than Debian sid. OK, doing (setq grep-command "grep -nHe *"); until emacs 23 By the way, you can combine the nH and e options to save some minibuffer. From lennart.borgman@gmail.com Wed Jan 14 17:09:23 2009 Received: (at 1863) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 15 Jan 2009 01:09:23 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.157]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0F19J60026310 for <1863@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:09:21 -0800 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l27so401310fgb.43 for <1863@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:09:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZcG5kQ8digGQJIfj7BgHIZjA2m1T8SApMSiX/FlxplE=; b=axVRiaqQ1vOf/AP0HzENbO2Bjuf6A6G5Tw3H36G6Nhn/EXb6Oxw22s+t8b4ytICzlJ CtPLgdBhCNNB6I38ic6bhNotJqkPbxW3O0jDpYJlojv8ZBj6iClyzMCtbzGnm21JIJd+ Z2JUpLLF1aLEQSXV5TiU3hzDpdlRrngeLyBWM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=utbMIECCbBLA1icv1Q39pTA5Hmz/w2qFa3HsWPrBBJ1p98kfKo/w3hlRF88s9xl/lC LgbKPAsII0vNiuRZsmZs/oGrhHsoVtCkl2lYiLr3gjJpCPz9PaGXuTQ9YbgWqSAH6Nkg 9dKx8sysyN7yeXzb+MeIQ7fi5L3QAOqJpt540= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.51.10 with SMTP id y10mr1067412fgy.9.1231981759170; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:09:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87ljtdcsfs.fsf@jidanni.org> References: <87mydt4f9y.fsf@jurta.org> <87ljtdcsfs.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:09:19 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#1863: Improved grep prompt From: Lennart Borgman To: jidanni@jidanni.org, 1863@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: juri@jurta.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 1:40 AM, wrote: > JL> It already says that. > JL> `C-h f grep RET': > But nobody would look there often. All I know is I took the Tutorial > in the 80's and would never know about the two new greps unless > alerted somehow. In your case I myself see nothing that can help then ;-) but I think newbees would benefit from having all the search and replace commands under search and replace in the edit menu. Otherwise the wheel will be invented over and over. From juri@jurta.org Wed Jan 14 17:31:03 2009 Received: (at 1863) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 15 Jan 2009 01:31:03 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from relay03.kiev.sovam.com (relay03.kiev.sovam.com [62.64.120.201]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0F1Ut9b032356 for <1863@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:30:57 -0800 Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay03.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LNH4Q-000KsB-Rb; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:30:55 +0200 From: Juri Linkov To: Lennart Borgman Cc: jidanni@jidanni.org, 1863@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#1863: Improved grep prompt Organization: JURTA References: <87mydt4f9y.fsf@jurta.org> <87ljtdcsfs.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:27:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:09:19 +0100") Message-ID: <87k58x1hq6.fsf@jurta.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Scanner-Signature: ef6c50392af5ec65634338665e82f3c2 X-DrWeb-checked: yes >> JL> It already says that. >> JL> `C-h f grep RET': >> But nobody would look there often. All I know is I took the Tutorial >> in the 80's and would never know about the two new greps unless >> alerted somehow. > > In your case I myself see nothing that can help then ;-) but I think > newbees would benefit from having all the search and replace commands > under search and replace in the edit menu. I can't believe we still don't have these useful commands in the menu. But why do you think they should be placed in the Edit menu? -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/ From lennart.borgman@gmail.com Wed Jan 14 17:55:13 2009 Received: (at 1863) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 15 Jan 2009 01:55:13 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0F1t5wm004995 for <1863@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:55:07 -0800 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l27so406103fgb.43 for <1863@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:55:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=R01wiZIYxc8FJjcTZzLEduFy1PXcEC2905/LKP1MO0I=; b=BZDpV50TyzqDH7/7eioa4o4TUYK1m6v7mFAOcmsiCmEx2QbuYYfAeWsch+txhgAgSu aO7yP4tMf//pYbJvBi/JbyztdMIA+UYTHuDEV3+vpIi10H8j0TpCYNfPxUkhniqf0sUw RT7HA1BY4EEiTcOL4k1NkHIJm/HfE+FiwfEyU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oqASYbF5PSHa5gPEs8K6m1QIideaJMaByOIOJ1BF+VlQ51I/a0B3qD10bP270knrth Aeko39B2wBfmctnRD/j/FpOirlCW9eGb3m7QzJP3vltnufrxG3cpZDblxfkklYc/4Lkv on8LPFGvNILWccfMU59GxkVz0vMvsOYfDbMvw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.59.18 with SMTP id h18mr106439fga.45.1231984504903; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:55:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87k58x1hq6.fsf@jurta.org> References: <87mydt4f9y.fsf@jurta.org> <87ljtdcsfs.fsf@jidanni.org> <87k58x1hq6.fsf@jurta.org> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:55:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#1863: Improved grep prompt From: Lennart Borgman To: Juri Linkov Cc: jidanni@jidanni.org, 1863@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Juri Linkov wrote: >>> JL> It already says that. >>> JL> `C-h f grep RET': >>> But nobody would look there often. All I know is I took the Tutorial >>> in the 80's and would never know about the two new greps unless >>> alerted somehow. >> >> In your case I myself see nothing that can help then ;-) but I think >> newbees would benefit from having all the search and replace commands >> under search and replace in the edit menu. > > I can't believe we still don't have these useful commands in the menu. > But why do you think they should be placed in the Edit menu? That is where the search and replace commands normally are. Why do you doubt they should be there? From monnier@iro.umontreal.ca Wed Jan 14 18:54:12 2009 Received: (at 1863) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 15 Jan 2009 02:54:12 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER,XIRONPORT autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.182]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0F2s80P019963 for <1863@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:54:10 -0800 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AicFAJ80bklMCpxj/2dsb2JhbACBbM0/hW6BbA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,265,1231131600"; d="scan'208";a="32324233" Received: from 76-10-156-99.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.156.99]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 14 Jan 2009 21:54:03 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id F037E7F41; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:54:02 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: jidanni@jidanni.org Cc: 1863@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@jurta.org Subject: Re: bug#1863: Improved grep prompt Message-ID: References: <87mydt4f9y.fsf@jurta.org> <87ljtdcsfs.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:54:02 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87ljtdcsfs.fsf@jidanni.org> (jidanni@jidanni.org's message of "Thu, 15 Jan 2009 08:40:39 +0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You can also use C-u M-x grep. That's what I use, personally. Stefan From juri@jurta.org Thu Jan 15 16:44:59 2009 Received: (at 1863) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 16 Jan 2009 00:45:00 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from relay03.kiev.sovam.com (relay03.kiev.sovam.com [62.64.120.201]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0G0irJD018230 for <1863@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:44:54 -0800 Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay03.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LNcpQ-0006rh-2o; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:44:52 +0200 From: Juri Linkov To: Lennart Borgman Cc: jidanni@jidanni.org, 1863@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#1863: Improved grep prompt Organization: JURTA References: <87mydt4f9y.fsf@jurta.org> <87ljtdcsfs.fsf@jidanni.org> <87k58x1hq6.fsf@jurta.org> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:31:03 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:55:04 +0100") Message-ID: <87fxjkccbk.fsf@jurta.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Scanner-Signature: f2683d8df775da069012ccac6e6e6321 X-DrWeb-checked: yes >>> In your case I myself see nothing that can help then ;-) but I think >>> newbees would benefit from having all the search and replace commands >>> under search and replace in the edit menu. >> >> I can't believe we still don't have these useful commands in the menu. >> But why do you think they should be placed in the Edit menu? > > That is where the search and replace commands normally are. Why do you > doubt they should be there? The `Grep' menu entry is traditionally in the Tools menu because it reads an external command like `Compile' and `Shell Command' do. So perhaps we should add `rgrep' and `lgrep' to the Tools menu. A less controversial change is to add `rgrep' and `lgrep' to the grep mode menu: Index: lisp/progmodes/grep.el =================================================================== RCS file: /sources/emacs/emacs/lisp/progmodes/grep.el,v retrieving revision 1.98 diff -u -r1.98 grep.el --- lisp/progmodes/grep.el 5 Jan 2009 03:23:37 -0000 1.98 +++ lisp/progmodes/grep.el 16 Jan 2009 00:27:48 -0000 @@ -204,12 +204,18 @@ (define-key map [menu-bar grep compilation-compile] '(menu-item "Compile..." compile :help "Compile the program including the current buffer. Default: run `make'")) + (define-key map [menu-bar grep compilation-lgrep] + '(menu-item "Local grep..." lgrep + :help "User-friendly grep")) + (define-key map [menu-bar grep compilation-rgrep] + '(menu-item "Recursive grep..." rgrep + :help "User-friendly recursive grep in directory tree")) + (define-key map [menu-bar grep compilation-grep-find] + '(menu-item "Grep via Find..." grep-find + :help "Run grep via find, with user-specified args")) (define-key map [menu-bar grep compilation-grep] '(menu-item "Another grep..." grep :help "Run grep, with user-specified args, and collect output in a buffer.")) - (define-key map [menu-bar grep compilation-grep-find] - '(menu-item "Recursive grep..." grep-find - :help "Run grep via find, with user-specified args")) (define-key map [menu-bar grep compilation-recompile] '(menu-item "Repeat grep" recompile :help "Run grep again")) -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/ From lennart.borgman@gmail.com Thu Jan 15 16:54:10 2009 Received: (at 1863) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 16 Jan 2009 00:54:10 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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Why do you >> doubt they should be there? > > The `Grep' menu entry is traditionally in the Tools menu because it reads > an external command like `Compile' and `Shell Command' do. So perhaps we > should add `rgrep' and `lgrep' to the Tools menu. I think menus should see things from the users view, not from an internal view. Emacs itself does not really care how the menus look ... I would expect nearly all users to look for these commands in the Edit menu. From richardeng@foxmail.com Fri Jan 16 01:27:56 2009 Received: (at 1863) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 16 Jan 2009 09:27:57 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER,MULTALT autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from smtpbg3.foxmail.com (smtpbg3.foxmail.com [121.14.102.33]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with SMTP id n0G9Ror9007532 for <1863@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:27:53 -0800 Received: from 172.25.76.137 (foxmail.com [172.25.76.137]) by smtpbg3 (foxmail.com) with SMTP id PJWlMhGK; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:27:40 +0800 (envelope-from richardeng@foxmail.com) X-QQ-mid: esmtp2123209806070614171 Received: from [192.168.1.111] (unknown [58.25.221.212]) by esmtp2.foxmail.com (ESMTP) with id ; Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:27:34 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <49705305.5060304@foxmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:27:33 +0800 From: richardeng User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Juri Linkov , 1863@debbugs.gnu.org CC: Lennart Borgman , jidanni@jidanni.org Subject: Re: bug#1863: Improved grep prompt References: <87mydt4f9y.fsf@jurta.org> <87ljtdcsfs.fsf@jidanni.org> <87k58x1hq6.fsf@jurta.org> <87fxjkccbk.fsf@jurta.org> In-Reply-To: <87fxjkccbk.fsf@jurta.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020604020902010609060007" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020604020902010609060007 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Juri Linkov wrote: >>>> In your case I myself see nothing that can help then ;-) but I think >>>> newbees would benefit from having all the search and replace commands >>>> under search and replace in the edit menu. >>>> >>> I can't believe we still don't have these useful commands in the menu. >>> But why do you think they should be placed in the Edit menu? >>> >> That is where the search and replace commands normally are. Why do you >> doubt they should be there? >> > > The `Grep' menu entry is traditionally in the Tools menu because it reads > an external command like `Compile' and `Shell Command' do. So perhaps we > should add `rgrep' and `lgrep' to the Tools menu. > > A less controversial change is to add `rgrep' and `lgrep' to the > grep mode menu: > > Index: lisp/progmodes/grep.el > =================================================================== > RCS file: /sources/emacs/emacs/lisp/progmodes/grep.el,v > retrieving revision 1.98 > diff -u -r1.98 grep.el > --- lisp/progmodes/grep.el 5 Jan 2009 03:23:37 -0000 1.98 > +++ lisp/progmodes/grep.el 16 Jan 2009 00:27:48 -0000 > @@ -204,12 +204,18 @@ > (define-key map [menu-bar grep compilation-compile] > '(menu-item "Compile..." compile > :help "Compile the program including the current buffer. Default: run `make'")) > + (define-key map [menu-bar grep compilation-lgrep] > + '(menu-item "Local grep..." lgrep > + :help "User-friendly grep")) > + (define-key map [menu-bar grep compilation-rgrep] > + '(menu-item "Recursive grep..." rgrep > + :help "User-friendly recursive grep in directory tree")) > + (define-key map [menu-bar grep compilation-grep-find] > + '(menu-item "Grep via Find..." grep-find > + :help "Run grep via find, with user-specified args")) > (define-key map [menu-bar grep compilation-grep] > '(menu-item "Another grep..." grep > :help "Run grep, with user-specified args, and collect output in a buffer.")) > - (define-key map [menu-bar grep compilation-grep-find] > - '(menu-item "Recursive grep..." grep-find > - :help "Run grep via find, with user-specified args")) > (define-key map [menu-bar grep compilation-recompile] > '(menu-item "Repeat grep" recompile > :help "Run grep again")) > > I think many emacs users discovery useful command from the menu instead of searching the release notes. I suggest to add rgrep,lgrep,grep-find to menu. --------------020604020902010609060007 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Juri Linkov wrote: 
In your case I myself see nothing that can help then ;-) but I think
newbees would benefit from having all the search and replace commands
under search and replace in the edit menu.
        
I can't believe we still don't have these useful commands in the menu.
But why do you think they should be placed in the Edit menu?
      
That is where the search and replace commands normally are. Why do you
doubt they should be there?
    

The `Grep' menu entry is traditionally in the Tools menu because it reads
an external command like `Compile' and `Shell Command' do.  So perhaps we
should add `rgrep' and `lgrep' to the Tools menu.

A less controversial change is to add `rgrep' and `lgrep' to the
grep mode menu:

Index: lisp/progmodes/grep.el
===================================================================
RCS file: /sources/emacs/emacs/lisp/progmodes/grep.el,v
retrieving revision 1.98
diff -u -r1.98 grep.el
--- lisp/progmodes/grep.el	5 Jan 2009 03:23:37 -0000	1.98
+++ lisp/progmodes/grep.el	16 Jan 2009 00:27:48 -0000
@@ -204,12 +204,18 @@
     (define-key map [menu-bar grep compilation-compile]
       '(menu-item "Compile..." compile
 		  :help "Compile the program including the current buffer.  Default: run `make'"))
+    (define-key map [menu-bar grep compilation-lgrep]
+      '(menu-item "Local grep..." lgrep
+		  :help "User-friendly grep"))
+    (define-key map [menu-bar grep compilation-rgrep]
+      '(menu-item "Recursive grep..." rgrep
+		  :help "User-friendly recursive grep in directory tree"))
+    (define-key map [menu-bar grep compilation-grep-find]
+      '(menu-item "Grep via Find..." grep-find
+		  :help "Run grep via find, with user-specified args"))
     (define-key map [menu-bar grep compilation-grep]
       '(menu-item "Another grep..." grep
 		  :help "Run grep, with user-specified args, and collect output in a buffer."))
-    (define-key map [menu-bar grep compilation-grep-find]
-      '(menu-item "Recursive grep..." grep-find
-		  :help "Run grep via find, with user-specified args"))
     (define-key map [menu-bar grep compilation-recompile]
       '(menu-item "Repeat grep" recompile
 		  :help "Run grep again"))
I think many emacs users discovery useful command from the menu instead of  searching the release notes.
I suggest to add rgrep,lgrep,grep-find to menu.


--------------020604020902010609060007-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 15 17:10:56 2013 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Feb 2013 22:10:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58210 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U6TUd-0005UO-KL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 17:10:56 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:33328) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U6TUc-0005UG-EL for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 17:10:54 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U6TTr-0001fj-5A for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 17:10:07 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 17:10:07 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 13693 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) merge 1863 13693 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 15 17:11:22 2013 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Feb 2013 22:11:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58214 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U6TV3-0005VY-DV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 17:11:22 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:33341) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U6TV0-0005VR-PR for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 17:11:19 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U6TUH-0001kN-RI for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 17:10:33 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 17:10:33 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 6553 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) merge 1863 6553 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 15 18:12:37 2018 Received: (at 1863) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2018 22:12:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54679 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f7psz-0003QK-3c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 18:12:37 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:39894) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f7psw-0003QB-EV for 1863@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 18:12:35 -0400 Received: from 46.67.12.60.tmi.telenormobil.no ([46.67.12.60] helo=corrigan) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f7pso-0002sG-4R; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 00:12:28 +0200 Received: from larsi by corrigan with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f7psh-0005tw-Tj; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 00:12:19 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Juri Linkov Subject: Re: bug#1863: Improved grep prompt References: <87k591p98u.fsf@jidanni.org> <87priq8z35.fsf@jurta.org> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 00:12:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87priq8z35.fsf@jurta.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:18:22 +0200") Message-ID: <874lkc6rwc.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 1863 Cc: 1863@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Juri Linkov writes: >> Regarding M-x grep, here are the current and improved prompts: >> Run grep (like this): grep -nH -e >> Run grep (like this): grep -nH -e [Cursor goes here] * <--and an asterisk here. I.e., @=cursor: >> Run grep (like this): grep -nH -e @ * >> If you use my improved prompt suggestion above, no longer will >> everybody forget to add a filename, and leave thinking "no matches found". > > Everybody's using rgrep and lgrep these days and never forget a filename ;-) It seemed like nobody were enthusiastic about adding such a fix, so I'm closing this as a "wontfix". -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 15 18:12:33 2018 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2018 22:12:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54676 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f7psu-0003Q3-Tu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 18:12:33 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:39893) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f7pss-0003Pv-Vu for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 18:12:31 -0400 Received: from 46.67.12.60.tmi.telenormobil.no ([46.67.12.60] helo=corrigan) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f7psq-0002w1-Kt for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 00:12:30 +0200 Received: from larsi by corrigan with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f7psl-0005u0-43 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 00:12:23 +0200 To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #1863 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 00:12:23 +0200 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 1863 wontfix close 1863 From unknown Thu Aug 14 17:28:25 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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