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25.0.50; `window-end win t` produces erroenous result with `window-scroll-functions` hook.

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From: Keith David Bershatsky <esq <at> lawlist.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 25.0.50; `window-end win t` produces erroenous result with
 `window-scroll-functions` hook.
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2014 18:06:45 -0700

Steps to reproduce the issue.

1.  Create a function that reports (e.g., a message) the value of `(window-end win t)` and attach that function to the `window-scroll-functions` hook.

2.  Open a long file in either fundamental-mode or text-mode.

3.  M-x end-of-buffer

4.  M-x beginning-of-buffer

The result of step 4 reports an erroneous window-end value that is at the very end of the buffer, instead of the correct window-end (i.e., which is much closer to the beginning of the buffer).

This makes it impossible to correctly draw overlays between window-start and window-end, because Emacs thinks the entire buffer should be used following an interactive use of `beginning-of-buffer`.

Please feel free to use my test-mode, which is a minor mode for testing window-start and window-end.

Thanks,

Keith

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;; test-mode

(defvar test-old-window-start nil
"This local variable is set within the `post-command-hook`; and,
is also used by the `window-scroll-functions` hook.")
(make-variable-buffer-local 'test-old-window-start)

(defvar test-old-window-end nil
"This local variable is set within the `post-command-hook`; and,
is also used by the `window-scroll-functions` hook.")
(make-variable-buffer-local 'test-old-window-end)

(defvar test-old-window-end-forced nil
"This local variable is set within the `post-command-hook`; and,
is also used by the `window-scroll-functions` hook.")
(make-variable-buffer-local 'test-old-window-end-forced)

(defvar test-new-window-start nil
"This local variable is set within the `window-scroll-functions`.")
(make-variable-buffer-local 'test-new-window-start)

(defvar test-new-window-end nil
"This local variable is set within the `window-scroll-functions`.")
(make-variable-buffer-local 'test-new-window-end)

(defun test-post-command-hook ()
"NOT good for things like: `beginning-of-buffer`; `end-of-buffer`; `yank`; etc.
NOTE:  When using `this-command` in conjunction with the `post-command-hook`,
the `window-scroll-functions` hook would need to use `last-command`."
  (when
      (and
        (not (minibufferp))
        (window-live-p (get-buffer-window (current-buffer))))
    (setq test-old-window-start (window-start))
    (setq test-old-window-end (window-end))
    (setq test-old-window-end-forced (window-end nil t))
    ;; DEBUGGING TEST
    ;;  (message "pt: %s | ows: %s | owe: %s | owe-f: %s"
    ;;    (point)
    ;;    test-old-window-start
    ;;    test-old-window-end
    ;;    test-old-window-end-forced)
    (when
        (or
          (and
            (not (< (point) test-old-window-start))
            (pos-visible-in-window-p (point)
              (get-buffer-window (current-buffer) (selected-frame)))
            (not (> (point) test-old-window-end))
            (not (> (point) test-old-window-end-forced)))
          ;; special situation when deleting region greater than size of window.
          (and
            (region-active-p)
            (< test-old-window-end 0))
          ;; special situation when deleting region greater than size of window.
          (and
            (region-active-p)
            (> (point) test-old-window-start)
            (> (point) test-old-window-end)
            (< (point) test-old-window-end-forced)) )
      (test-mode-demonstration
        test-old-window-start
        test-old-window-end
        test-old-window-end-forced
        nil
        nil))))

(defun test-window-scroll-functions (win _start)
"Good for things like: `beginning-of-buffer`; `end-of-buffer`; `yank`; etc.
NOTE:  When using `this-command` in conjunction with the `post-command-hook`,
the `window-scroll-functions` hook would need to use `last-command`."
  (when
      (and
        test-old-window-start
        test-old-window-end
        test-old-window-end-forced
        (not (minibufferp))
        (window-live-p (get-buffer-window (current-buffer))))
    ;; DEBUGGING TEST
    ;; (message "nws: %s | nwe-f: %s" _start (window-end nil t))
    (when
        (or
          (not (= _start test-old-window-start))
          (not (pos-visible-in-window-p (point)
            (get-buffer-window (current-buffer) (selected-frame))))
          (< (point) test-old-window-start)
          (> (point) test-old-window-end)
          (> (point) test-old-window-end-forced))
      (setq test-new-window-start _start)
      (setq test-new-window-end (window-end win t))
      ;; FIX-ME -- special circumstance when jumping paragraph down.
      ;; (when (> (point) test-new-window-end)
      ;; (setq test-new-window-end . . .
      (test-mode-demonstration
        nil
        nil
        nil
        test-new-window-start
        test-new-window-end)
      (setq test-old-window-start nil)
      (setq test-old-window-end nil)
      (setq test-old-window-end-forced nil))))

(defun test-mode-demonstration
  (&optional
    test-old-window-start
    test-old-window-end
    test-old-window-end-forced
    test-new-window-start
    test-new-window-end)
"This is a test-mode demonstration function."
  (let* (
      (window-start
        (cond
          (test-old-window-start
            test-old-window-start)
          (test-new-window-start
            test-new-window-start)
          (t (window-start))))
      (window-end
        (cond
          ((and
              test-old-window-end
              test-old-window-end-forced
              (= test-old-window-end test-old-window-end-forced))
            test-old-window-end)
          ((and
              test-old-window-end
              test-old-window-end-forced
              (> test-old-window-end-forced test-old-window-end))
            test-old-window-end-forced)
          (test-new-window-end
            test-new-window-end)
          (t (window-end (selected-window) t)))) )
    (cond
      ((and
          test-old-window-start
          test-old-window-end
          test-old-window-end-forced)
        (message (concat
        "P.C.H. -- `point`: %s | "
        "`test-old-window-start`: %s | "
        "`test-old-window-end`: %s | "
        "`test-old-window-end-forced`: %s")
          (point)
          test-old-window-start
          test-old-window-end
          test-old-window-end-forced))
      ((and
          test-new-window-start
          test-new-window-end)
        (message (concat
          "W.S.F. -- `point`: %s | "
          "`test-new-window-start`: %s | "
          "`test-new-window-end`: %s")
            (point)
            test-new-window-start
            test-new-window-end))) ))

(define-minor-mode test-mode
"A minor-mode for testing `window-start` / `window-end` BEFORE visual redisplay."
  :init-value nil
  :lighter " TEST"
  :keymap nil
  :global nil
  :group nil
  (cond
    (test-mode
      (condition-case error
        (progn
          (setq scroll-conservatively 101)
          (setq max-mini-window-height 2)
          (add-hook 'post-command-hook 'test-post-command-hook nil t)
          (add-hook 'window-scroll-functions 'test-window-scroll-functions nil t)
          (when (called-interactively-p 'any)
            (message "Turned ON `test-mode`.")))
        (error
         (test-mode 0)
         (signal (car error) (cdr error)))))
    ((not test-mode)
      (setq max-mini-window-height 0.25)
      (remove-hook 'post-command-hook 'test-post-command-hook t)
      (remove-hook 'window-scroll-functions 'test-window-scroll-functions t)
      (when (called-interactively-p 'any)
        (message "Turned OFF `test-mode`.") ))))

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W.S.F. -- `point`: 1 | `test-new-window-start`: 1 | `test-new-window-end`: 339823
Turned ON `test-mode`.
P.C.H. -- `point`: 1191 | `test-old-window-start`: 1 | `test-old-window-end`: 5438 | `test-old-window-end-forced`: 5438
W.S.F. -- `point`: 339823 | `test-new-window-start`: 339179 | `test-new-window-end`: 339823
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W.S.F. -- `point`: 339823 | `test-new-window-start`: 339179 | `test-new-window-end`: 339823
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Message #8 received at 18618 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Keith David Bershatsky <esq <at> lawlist.com>
To: 18618 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: `window-end win t` produces erroenous result with
 `window-scroll-functions` hook.
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2014 19:11:08 -0700

Upon some further testing, I see that `transient-mark-mode` interferes with properly calculating the new window-end when using the window-scroll-functions hook (e.g., going from the end of the buffer the `beginning-of-buffer`).  When `transient-mark-mode` is enabled, the wrong window end is reported.  When `transient-mark-mode` is deactivated `(transient-mark-mode -1)`, the correct window end is reported.

Keith

Message #11 received at 18618 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Keith David Bershatsky <esq <at> lawlist.com>
Cc: 18618 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18618: 25.0.50; `window-end win t` produces erroenous
 result with `window-scroll-functions` hook.
Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 05:37:18 +0200

Keith David Bershatsky <esq <at> lawlist.com> writes:

> Steps to reproduce the issue.
>
> 1.  Create a function that reports (e.g., a message) the value of `(window-end win t)` and attach that function to the `window-scroll-functions` hook.
>
> 2.  Open a long file in either fundamental-mode or text-mode.
>
> 3.  M-x end-of-buffer
>
> 4.  M-x beginning-of-buffer
>
> The result of step 4 reports an erroneous window-end value that is at
> the very end of the buffer, instead of the correct window-end (i.e.,
> which is much closer to the beginning of the buffer).

(I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately got no response at
the time.)

This problem is still present in Emacs 28.  Here's an easier test case:

(defun foo (win _)
  (message "End: %s" (window-end win t))
  nil)
(push 'foo window-scroll-functions)

This reports the same number in both 3) and 4) when transient-mark-mode
is switched on, but not when it's off.  It's also correct if that mode
is on, and the region is active.

I haven't tried to debug further -- perhaps it's immediately obvious to
somebody what could be causing this glitch?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #14 received at 18618 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Keith David Bershatsky <esq <at> lawlist.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 18618 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18618: 25.0.50;
 `window-end win t` produces erroenous result with
 `window-scroll-functions` hook.
Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 23:16:41 -0700

Lars:

I haven't played in depth with the Emacs internals for a couple of years or so.  In working on my own feature requests (back in the day), I learned that window-start/end cannot be accurately ascertained with 100% certainty until the tail end of redisplay ...  If a user were to add/remove something with Lisp, then redisplay would need to recalculate to take that modification into consideration -- necessitating further recalculation, which may alter window-start/end.

In terms of my own feature requests, I opted to use `update_window` in dispnew.c to add visual modifications to the glass that did not alter any text or points in the buffer.  That way, no further calculation was needed as to window-start/end points -- as said points were "final" calculations at that late stage of redisplay.  The `window-scroll-functions` hook only operates under certain criteria, but not all the time.  As of my last look a couple of years ago, there was no hook that operated towards the latter part of redisplay with 100% certainty.  For a few years before using `update_window`, I used a combination of the `post-command-hook` and the `window-scroll-functions` hook to try and catch the majority of situations to ascertain window-start/end, but there were always several situations where the two hooks where insufficient ...  An example of what users were required to do back in the day can be seen by examining libraries such as the deprecated linum-mode, which used both o
 f the aforementioned hooks because there is/was no sole hook that could accurately predict window-start/end with 100% certainty.

Keith

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> Date: [05-28-2021 20:37:18] <29 May 2021 05:37:18 +0200>
> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
> To: Keith David Bershatsky <esq <at> lawlist.com>
> Cc: 18618 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Subject: Re: bug#18618: 25.0.50; `window-end win t` produces erroenous result with `window-scroll-functions` hook.
> 
> Keith David Bershatsky <esq <at> lawlist.com> writes:
> 
> > Steps to reproduce the issue.
> >
> > 1.  Create a function that reports (e.g., a message) the value of `(window-end win t)` and attach that function to the `window-scroll-functions` hook.
> >
> > 2.  Open a long file in either fundamental-mode or text-mode.
> >
> > 3.  M-x end-of-buffer
> >
> > 4.  M-x beginning-of-buffer
> >
> > The result of step 4 reports an erroneous window-end value that is at
> > the very end of the buffer, instead of the correct window-end (i.e.,
> > which is much closer to the beginning of the buffer).
> 
> (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately got no response at
> the time.)
> 
> This problem is still present in Emacs 28.  Here's an easier test case:
> 
> (defun foo (win _)
>   (message "End: %s" (window-end win t))
>   nil)
> (push 'foo window-scroll-functions)
> 
> This reports the same number in both 3) and 4) when transient-mark-mode
> is switched on, but not when it's off.  It's also correct if that mode
> is on, and the region is active.
> 
> I haven't tried to debug further -- perhaps it's immediately obvious to
> somebody what could be causing this glitch?
> 
> --
> (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
>    bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #17 received at 18618 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 18618 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, esq <at> lawlist.com
Subject: Re: bug#18618: 25.0.50;
 `window-end win t` produces erroenous result with
 `window-scroll-functions` hook.
Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 09:24:23 +0300

tags 18618 notabug
close 18618
thanks

> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
> Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 05:37:18 +0200
> Cc: 18618 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> Keith David Bershatsky <esq <at> lawlist.com> writes:
> 
> > Steps to reproduce the issue.
> >
> > 1.  Create a function that reports (e.g., a message) the value of `(window-end win t)` and attach that function to the `window-scroll-functions` hook.
> >
> > 2.  Open a long file in either fundamental-mode or text-mode.
> >
> > 3.  M-x end-of-buffer
> >
> > 4.  M-x beginning-of-buffer
> >
> > The result of step 4 reports an erroneous window-end value that is at
> > the very end of the buffer, instead of the correct window-end (i.e.,
> > which is much closer to the beginning of the buffer).
> 
> (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately got no response at
> the time.)
> 
> This problem is still present in Emacs 28.  Here's an easier test case:
> 
> (defun foo (win _)
>   (message "End: %s" (window-end win t))
>   nil)
> (push 'foo window-scroll-functions)
> 
> This reports the same number in both 3) and 4) when transient-mark-mode
> is switched on, but not when it's off.  It's also correct if that mode
> is on, and the region is active.
> 
> I haven't tried to debug further -- perhaps it's immediately obvious to
> somebody what could be causing this glitch?

This isn't supposed to work.  The doc string of window-end says:

  Return position at which display currently ends in WINDOW.
  WINDOW must be a live window and defaults to the selected one.
  This is updated by redisplay, when it runs to completion.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

By contrast, window-scroll-functions is a hook run by the display
engine in the middle of redisplaying a window, when the display engine
concludes that it is about to scroll the window.  At that point, the
window's redisplay is by definition not complete yet, so this can only
work by chance.  Which is why window-scroll-functions' doc string says
explicitly this doesn't work:

  Note that the value of ‘window-end’ is not valid when these functions are
  called.

So Emacs behaves here as designed and as documented, and I'm therefore
closing this bug.

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