From unknown Fri Aug 08 22:17:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18589: Why is the the longlines package obsolete? Resent-From: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 09:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 18589 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 18589@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Reply-To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.141207112614498 (code B ref -1); Tue, 30 Sep 2014 09:59:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2014 09:58:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55875 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XYuCj-0003ll-5j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 05:58:45 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60737) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XYuCg-0003lZ-T5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 05:58:43 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XYuCb-0006Ux-Ut for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 05:58:42 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE,T_DKIM_INVALID,URI_HEX autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:38951) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XYuCb-0006S2-Sx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 05:58:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33983) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XYuBT-0006J3-7M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 05:57:28 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XYuBS-0006BU-2P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 05:57:27 -0400 Received: from mail-ig0-x22a.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22a]:46278) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XYuBR-00060Z-Sq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 05:57:26 -0400 Received: by mail-ig0-f170.google.com with SMTP id a13so984491igq.5 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 02:57:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Ku1pROHdEn7OSQ/mlQBbxGuhThegokYLLa1T8BsP4xE=; b=JYq2HOkupiaM/iNlhAyEkljbMEIcZzjhNRbSV88U1FlbKeb1VTxHeGGK+Nz48g+e7W duBlfuyolTOKMTQMwqouTvS9NkBTYPpSGHmd0FX2M18eq7WZvq9ggXLDm20Cjf7NhvOg RjPjTV/RJ9h6hn5ebppUCmh+F/pkn2L6sAZRMZSuOC962RiwJzVOC9SEVS27k0L0Urqn TzWKYB96BrLItb5xBPH4ihTR+2KFdaN+ZlqUU+onbGL9jdIds9VjgvnFLdOq/BlrFUiD ZBTkx92FhxoQeHgfYEopJf+N6cyuTAfrEmj7snAP0/so2ck4v3N5pkRdYnMfDepdon3I jf2A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.122.5 with SMTP id lo5mr6216386igb.25.1412071039138; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 02:57:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.9.241 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 02:57:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 10:57:19 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 52bzkCqK2HbEXzZoAqF_NN3z66o Message-ID: From: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e015388b6af82fc05044568c0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) --089e015388b6af82fc05044568c0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, It seems the longlines package has been marked obsolete for emacs 24.4, in lieu of visual-line-mode. However, from what I understand, visual-line-mode isn't capable of wraping lines to be shorter than window width, which was one of longlines' features. Is longlines-mode really redundant? Or was it marked obsolete for another reason. Cheers, Malabarba --089e015388b6af82fc05044568c0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
It seems the longlines package has = been marked obsolete for emacs 24.4, in lieu of visual= -line-mode.

However, from what I understand, visual-l= ine-mode isn't capable of wraping lines to be shorter than window width= , which was one of longlines' features.

Is longlines-= mode really redundant? Or was it marked obsolete for another reason.
Cheers,
Malabarba
--089e015388b6af82fc05044568c0-- From unknown Fri Aug 08 22:17:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18589: Why is the the longlines package obsolete? In-Reply-To: Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 15:55:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18589 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Cc: 18589@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18589-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18589.141209246621366 (code B ref 18589); Tue, 30 Sep 2014 15:55:01 +0000 Received: (at 18589) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2014 15:54:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56491 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XYzkv-0005YY-S7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:54:26 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:59609) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XYzkt-0005YP-PA for 18589@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:54:24 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XYzkr-0000kc-U8; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:54:22 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: X-Spook: argus fundamentalist Medco domestic disruption military X-Ran: !f<^bibD1*qa7ByMr-wNe@\Sf((>H)$=j'5?lCB7Ta)z_rYZY)7h&N$Q%54]4W`3s)b0}1 X-Hue: black X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:54:21 -0400 Message-ID: <9xegutums2.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) bruce.connor.am@gmail.com wrote: > It seems the longlines package has been marked obsolete for emacs 24.4, in > lieu of visual-line-mode. Yes, it was marked obsolete by its maintainer. Since your question(s) is not a bug report, I will close it, but feel free to keep discussing it here. (If there are features you would like to see added to visual-line-mode, please make a new bug report for each.) 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--20cf304352b6f1a0e305044aba87-- From unknown Fri Aug 08 22:17:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18589: Why is the the longlines package obsolete? Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 18:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18589 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Cc: 18589@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18589-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18589.141210120612539 (code B ref 18589); Tue, 30 Sep 2014 18:21:02 +0000 Received: (at 18589) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2014 18:20:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56634 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XZ21s-0003G8-Sb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:20:05 -0400 Received: from mercure.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.24.67]:54902) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XZ21o-0003FX-W6 for 18589@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:20:01 -0400 Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDDE84FC0; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:20:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430C81E5B8D; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:19:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 1DC63B40C1; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:19:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:19:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: (bruce connor am's message of "Tue, 30 Sep 2014 10:57:19 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.82, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82, MC_TSTLAST 0.00) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) > However, from what I understand, visual-line-mode isn't capable of wraping > lines to be shorter than window width, which was one of longlines' features. You can get the same result by fiddling with the window margins or by splitting your window. I seem to remember someone writing code to do that conveniently, but I wouldn't know where to find it. > Is longlines-mode really redundant? visual-lines-mode provides the feature for which longlines-mode was written, so in this sense it's definitely obsolete/redundant. Of course, by virtue of working differently, it might provide some functionality which visual-lines-mode can't provide. But "lines shorter than the window" is not really one of them. Recently someone pointed out that using longlines-mode in a buffer that contain *very* long lines makes it possible to view&edit the buffer without suffering unbearable performance problems. So maybe in this sense it's not completely obsolete. Stefan From unknown Fri Aug 08 22:17:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18589: Why is the the longlines package obsolete? 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But "lines shorter > than the window" is not really one of them. > In my case, I managed to make longlines-mode wrap text while not wrapping equations (LaTeX-mode). I also got it to indent wrapped lines correctly. Both of which you can't do if you take the "change the margin" approach. I understand this is a very specific hack, and doesn't justify unobsoleting the package. But for the record, the code can be found here. http://endlessparentheses.com/longlines-mode-in-latex.html Thanks Artur Malabarba --001a11c3060069961e050450e7b6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On 30 Sep 2014 19:19, "Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>
> > However, from what I understand, visual-line-mode isn't capab= le of wraping
> > lines to be shorter than window width, which was one of longlines= ' features.
>
> You can get the same result by fiddling with the window margins or by =
> splitting your window.=C2=A0
>
> Of course, by virtue of working differently, it might provide some > functionality which visual-lines-mode can't provide.=C2=A0 But &qu= ot;lines shorter
> than the window" is not really one of them.
>

In my case, I managed to make longlines-mode wrap text while not wrappin= g equations (LaTeX-mode). I also got it to indent wrapped lines correctly. = Both of which you can't do if you take the "change the margin"= ; approach.

I understand this is a very specific hack, and doesn't justify unobs= oleting the package. But for the record, the code can be found here.
http= ://endlessparentheses.com/longlines-mode-in-latex.html


Thanks

Artur Malabarba

--001a11c3060069961e050450e7b6-- From unknown Fri Aug 08 22:17:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18589: Why is the the longlines package obsolete? Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 01:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18589 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Cc: 18589@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18589-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18589.141212719323184 (code B ref 18589); Wed, 01 Oct 2014 01:34:02 +0000 Received: (at 18589) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2014 01:33:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56777 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XZ8n2-00061r-8j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 21:33:12 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:13339) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XZ8mv-00061e-De for 18589@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 21:33:10 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtgGAIDvNVNFxKjo/2dsb2JhbABZgwY7gw+/H4EegRcXdIIlAQEBAQIBViMFCws0EhQYDYgoCA3SDBeOegcWhCIElGMFlDGBaoNMIQ X-IPAS-Result: AtgGAIDvNVNFxKjo/2dsb2JhbABZgwY7gw+/H4EegRcXdIIlAQEBAQIBViMFCws0EhQYDYgoCA3SDBeOegcWhCIElGMFlDGBaoNMIQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="91347224" Received: from 69-196-168-232.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.168.232]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 30 Sep 2014 21:33:04 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 1298A7CD1; Tue, 30 Sep 2014 21:33:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 21:33:04 -0400 In-Reply-To: (bruce connor am's message of "Wed, 1 Oct 2014 00:40:09 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > In my case, I managed to make longlines-mode wrap text while not wrapping > equations (LaTeX-mode). It would be interesting to extend visual-lines-mode so you can prevent wrapping of some lines (or prevent wrapping at particular places, as is done with fill-nobreak-functions). > I also got it to indent wrapped lines correctly. adaptive-wrap-mode is another approach at indenting wrapped lines correctly (but for visual-lines-mode). I don't guarantee it works well for LaTeX, tho (I don't think it uses the indent-according-to-mode code, but rather uses the adaptive-fill-mode code). > I understand this is a very specific hack, and doesn't justify unobsoleting > the package. But for the record, the code can be found here. > http://endlessparentheses.com/longlines-mode-in-latex.html I wouldn't mind de-obsoleting it. If you're interested, I think it would be nice to change longlines.el by adding some hooks to it so you can cleanly make it work like you do (without overwriting its functions). Feel like taking over maintainership? Stefan PS: BTW, I don't understand why people want to use single-line-paragraphs for "LaTeX under version control". It means that any change to a paragraph will always appear in the diff as a change to the whole paragraph, rather than just to the specific line on which the change happened. Of course, refilling a paragraph may cause the whole paragraph to show up in the diff, but as long as you only refill when you make changes, it's never worse than the "single-line paragraphs" approach. And `diff-refine-hunk' lets you see which part of the paragraph was really changed. From unknown Fri Aug 08 22:17:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18589: Why is the the longlines package obsolete? Resent-From: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 08:02:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18589 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Stefan Monnier Cc: 18589@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Received: via spool by 18589-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18589.141215048332569 (code B ref 18589); Wed, 01 Oct 2014 08:02:02 +0000 Received: (at 18589) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2014 08:01:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56839 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XZEqg-0008TF-8s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 04:01:22 -0400 Received: from mail-ob0-f171.google.com ([209.85.214.171]:53939) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XZEqd-0008T5-FB for 18589@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 04:01:20 -0400 Received: by mail-ob0-f171.google.com with SMTP id va2so222497obc.30 for <18589@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 01:01:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=jepPrRzK0UkXKc8ISplXCG/Y00k4OTpJVryJDV2QMbM=; b=R/T2atglKa2K9NoAhWVSVhMf3FiJLimn6C/qnw+pr82Y2eFWvf3kQvXGXA2YIubnqQ 6N9EtHSzlJRI/++5w01aCw9/nCU7wxYLx7D94qxzxUeIiPPtESd+/isglGBdnKRPlDng VmeTwmS9CIdTEBxqjU0rAipOqbb/qF5pB3mQDlTGfbixR4Hd3AfynF6T5IQx8I1O8gkM YgwI2VxNzCai0R+nPn80MqvCqBfBmaPjTx2oqjiKO2JJklpwO5k7ZINBQrDT+TR0jIcN V2Vuwlsi/hpiCWGDvu7zG8ru/tZx3tJ00nLqooKJjNsGNscq/HC49//z7gi5zsN5oNZX fTOg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.145.143 with SMTP id su15mr53828344oeb.58.1412150478261; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 01:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.108.197 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 01:01:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 09:01:18 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Q97gKzSsJGM2WpEaMbThQsgfDcg Message-ID: From: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b5d4882a055ff050457e75e X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --047d7b5d4882a055ff050457e75e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > It would be interesting to extend visual-lines-mode so you can prevent > wrapping of some lines > If I understand things correctly, visual-line-mode only wraps lines when they=E2=80=99re longer than the window-width (or window-width - margins), s= o making it not wrap some lines would only cause them to extend beyond the window=E2= =80=99s boundaries. > adaptive-wrap-mode is another approach at indenting wrapped lines > correctly (but for visual-lines-mode). I don't guarantee it works well > for LaTeX, tho (I don't think it uses the indent-according-to-mode code, > but rather uses the adaptive-fill-mode code). > Thanks, under a few initial tests, it does seem to fix the indentation! > I wouldn't mind de-obsoleting it. If you're interested, I think it > would be nice to change longlines.el by adding some hooks to it so you > can cleanly make it work like you do (without overwriting its functions). > Feel like taking over maintainership? > Sure, I could take over. What would that involve? > PS: BTW, I don't understand why people want to use > single-line-paragraphs for "LaTeX under version control". > Me neither, and I agree with everything you said here. The approach I=E2=80= =99m taking is with sentences. If you give each sentence its own line then, when you change a sentence, the rest of the paragraph doesn=E2=80=99t show up on the diff. Best Regards, Artur Malabarba --047d7b5d4882a055ff050457e75e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It would be interesting to extend visual-lines-mode so you can prevent=
wrapping of some lines

If I understand things correctly, visual-line-mode only wraps lines when= they=E2=80=99re longer than the window-width (or window-width - margins), = so making it not wrap some lines would only cause them to extend beyond the= window=E2=80=99s boundaries.

adaptive-wrap-mode is another approach at indenting wrapped lines
correctly (but for visual-lines-mode).=C2=A0 I don't guarantee it works= well
for LaTeX, tho (I don't think it uses the indent-according-to-mode code= ,
but rather uses the adaptive-fill-mode code).

Thanks, under a few initial tests, it does seem to fix the indentation!<= /p>

I wouldn't mind de-obsoleting it.=C2=A0 If you're interested, = I think it
would be nice to change longlines.el by adding some hooks to it so you
can cleanly make it work like you do (without overwriting its functions). <= br> Feel like taking over maintainership?

Sure, I could take over. What would that involve?

PS: BTW, I don't understand why people want to use
single-line-paragraphs for "LaTeX under version control".=C2=A0 <= /p>

Me neither, and I agree with everything you said here. The approach I=E2= =80=99m taking is with sentences.

If you give each sentence its own line then, when you change a sentence,= the rest of the paragraph doesn=E2=80=99t show up on the diff.

Best Regards,
Artur Malabarba

--047d7b5d4882a055ff050457e75e-- From unknown Fri Aug 08 22:17:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18589: Why is the the longlines package obsolete? Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 20:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18589 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Stefan Monnier Cc: 18589@debbugs.gnu.org, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com Received: via spool by 18589-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18589.141219598020816 (code B ref 18589); Wed, 01 Oct 2014 20:40:02 +0000 Received: (at 18589) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2014 20:39:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57749 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XZQgW-0005Pg-9l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 16:39:40 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:38540) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XZQgS-0005PT-3J for 18589@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 16:39:37 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XZQgR-0000cQ-BY; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 16:39:35 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: X-Spook: kilo class RSA Albanian Centro MD2 Plame Bosnia IMF X-Ran: Ol7Biy2FC7p=cQBsA-c^EK.Bu1z$*^|>5uyG.ublrAKMy#_6kl`&&*5Bsu(uPy:% (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:19:36 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) Stefan Monnier wrote: >> However, from what I understand, visual-line-mode isn't capable of wraping >> lines to be shorter than window width, which was one of longlines' features. > > You can get the same result by fiddling with the window margins or by > splitting your window. 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Does anybody else object? There was a previous discussion in Bug#18589 (now merged): https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=18589 It seems like Stefan Monnier's take was this: > Recently someone pointed out that using longlines-mode in a buffer that > contain *very* long lines makes it possible to view&edit the buffer > without suffering unbearable performance problems. So maybe in this > sense it's not completely obsolete. And: > I wouldn't mind de-obsoleting it. The last message in Bug#18589 links here: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2013-12/msg00475.html (I'm copying in Stefan and Glenn, in case they have something to add.) 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So [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Stefan Monnier writes: > Recently someone pointed out that using longlines-mode in a buffer that > contain *very* long lines makes it possible to view&edit the buffer > without suffering unbearable performance problems. So maybe in this > sense it's not completely obsolete. 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