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X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 16:35:30 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) --_000_f1395c54e9f4441cb019615465d11bd9AMSPR06MB133eurprd06pro_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I was testing one parameter in my .sh and realised that the wc comma= nd return a different value that I was expected. I send you a couple examp= les. I have to validate a celular telephone number (in Argentina), so, it has to= be a 10 chars parameter. sarasa() -- seba > echo 1029384756 | wc -c 11 sarasa () -- seba > echo "1029384756" | wc -c 11 sarasa () -- seba > echo 1029384756 | wc -m 11 sarasa () -- seba > echo "1029384756" | wc -m 11 I got the correct value only with the =E2=80=9C=E2=80=93L=E2=80=9D option. sarasa () -- seba > echo 1029384756 | wc -L 10 sarasa () -- seba > echo "1029384756" | wc -L 10 I tested it (with same output) in: Linux 2.6.9-78.0.22.ELlargesmp #1 SMP Fri Apr 24 12:59:13 EDT 2009 x86_64 x= 86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux and Linux 3.2.0-29-generic-pae #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 27 17:25:43 UTC 2012 i686= i686 i386 GNU/Linux Regards! (and excuse me for my bad english) Seba ________________________________ Este mensaje y sus adjuntos se dirigen exclusivamente a su destinatario, pu= ede contener informaci=C3=B3n privilegiada o confidencial y es para uso exc= lusivo de la persona o entidad de destino. 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Hello, I was testing one parameter in my .sh and rea= lised that the wc command return a different value that I was expected.&nbs= p; I send you a couple examples.

 

I have to validate a celular telephone number (in= Argentina), so, it has to be a 10 chars parameter.

 

sarasa() -- seba > e= cho 1029384756 | wc -c     

11

 

sarasa () -- seba > = echo "1029384756" | wc -c

11

 

sarasa () -- seba > = echo 1029384756 | wc -m

11

 

sarasa () -- seba > = echo "1029384756" | wc -m

11

 

I got the correct value only with the =E2=80=9C= =E2=80=93L=E2=80=9D option.

 

sarasa () -- seba > = echo 1029384756 | wc -L

10

 

sarasa () -- seba > = echo "1029384756" | wc -L

10

 

I tested it (with same output) in:

 

Linux 2.6.9-78.0.22.ELl= argesmp #1 SMP Fri Apr 24 12:59:13 EDT 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux<= o:p>

and

Linux 3.2.0-29-generic-= pae #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 27 17:25:43 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

 

 

Regards! (and excuse me for my bad english)

 

Seba



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User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Schapovalov, Sebastian" , 18585-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#18585: Bad count in WC command? References: In-Reply-To: OpenPGP: url=http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OUihvrQX6TNCM9vseHJAwhT2D3GW4uEHu" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.5.11.22 X-Spam-Score: -5.8 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.8 (-----) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --OUihvrQX6TNCM9vseHJAwhT2D3GW4uEHu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tag 18585 notabug thanks On 09/29/2014 07:25 AM, Schapovalov, Sebastian wrote: > Hello, I was testing one parameter in my .sh and realised that the wc c= ommand return a different value that I was expected. I send you a couple= examples. >=20 > I have to validate a celular telephone number (in Argentina), so, it ha= s to be a 10 chars parameter. >=20 > sarasa() -- seba > echo 1029384756 | wc -c > 11 Classic user mistake. 'echo' outputs a trailing newline, which IS a character, > sarasa () -- seba > echo 1029384756 | wc -L > 10 but does NOT contribute to the length of the longest line. Try comparing these two commands echo 1029384756 | oc -tx1z printf 1029384756 | oc -tx1z to see what I mean. I'm closing this as not a bug, but feel free to ask further questions. --=20 Eric Blake eblake redhat com +1-919-301-3266 Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org --OUihvrQX6TNCM9vseHJAwhT2D3GW4uEHu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Public key at http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJUKcVGAAoJEKeha0olJ0Nqrp0IAKAWoFGWCoC1XT2AdFy4qd+j NkHi7qwPo4OO0AhJCtInjCrhqie/xnpe9DhWDZBaGv5yrL1iDTXWk/DDcq9TaGAz izu80rpbxF+iceR0ujbA9bUtdsMkJz9IcBOXIaCASD17iU1xK/qFYohFT75AL1+V 0gUj54s4HL93wU+tCe+V49h3UKFRzNmUL1bBBHa60J9pBmgL/9KysWDXVBjT1dXY pJW7kvYVlvryQrVczFiYLkLrt3Vc2SeCSeg1gNAlphavoz9leRVfbsVX58NanLnI G0p4Kx2Ci0u2LqXf2Xz7+96cM2yOrZKBIBCx0u73S8hwc0ZtcertjKSFvupiNZM= =SCf8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OUihvrQX6TNCM9vseHJAwhT2D3GW4uEHu-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 29 16:54:48 2014 Received: (at 18585) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Sep 2014 20:54:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55619 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XYhy4-000090-AJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Sep 2014 16:54:48 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:11906) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XYhy1-00008o-FW for 18585@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Sep 2014 16:54:46 -0400 Received: from int-mx11.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx11.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.24]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s8TKsixV010379 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 29 Sep 2014 16:54:44 -0400 Received: from [10.3.113.28] (ovpn-113-28.phx2.redhat.com [10.3.113.28]) by int-mx11.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s8TKshe9000604; Mon, 29 Sep 2014 16:54:44 -0400 Message-ID: <5429C713.20001@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 14:54:43 -0600 From: Eric Blake Organization: Red Hat, Inc. 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References: <5429C546.3090304@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <5429C546.3090304@redhat.com> OpenPGP: url=http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GnDvfWNXS4mdTlXGo1jlAcsMM2QjXQdhK" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.5.11.24 X-Spam-Score: -5.8 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18585 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.8 (-----) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --GnDvfWNXS4mdTlXGo1jlAcsMM2QjXQdhK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09/29/2014 02:47 PM, Eric Blake wrote: > tag 18585 notabug > thanks >=20 > On 09/29/2014 07:25 AM, Schapovalov, Sebastian wrote: >> Hello, I was testing one parameter in my .sh and realised that the wc = command return a different value that I was expected. I send you a coupl= e examples. >> >> I have to validate a celular telephone number (in Argentina), so, it h= as to be a 10 chars parameter. >> >> sarasa() -- seba > echo 1029384756 | wc -c >> 11 >=20 > Classic user mistake. 'echo' outputs a trailing newline, which IS a > character, >=20 >> sarasa () -- seba > echo 1029384756 | wc -L >> 10 >=20 > but does NOT contribute to the length of the longest line. Try > comparing these two commands >=20 > echo 1029384756 | oc -tx1z > printf 1029384756 | oc -tx1z Typo; I meant 'od' in both lines, not 'oc'. >=20 > to see what I mean. >=20 > I'm closing this as not a bug, but feel free to ask further questions. >=20 --=20 Eric Blake eblake redhat com +1-919-301-3266 Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org --GnDvfWNXS4mdTlXGo1jlAcsMM2QjXQdhK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Public key at http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJUKccTAAoJEKeha0olJ0NqKY4H/i00OfEdmxmp9uQX7wfft5WV Qn8A5tWuiMYPZzDTZvSqmunjn7z43QsKgr1+B8mKO62TaXuPNALynlsCHxbf3MGn NDLEvozA7hAYqqd3U4Sq0fP8wwvPP2kXhViPJ2gbdFEdvMsXnNnP/1MI3/krkAYB s0rtyR9KQxc5exwwHDCAWMRpRPx33S8aZSkjr1+a/sg3S5REBPruBHgFy9HH1Tuy iP3RrbFwTuXGZGaEgtWh31MU37Tl/NRK8BiBpSAYk09Y9DhswhNjHQ57X8kJodQj MjCfK2Ka6kcQiHA4ItVeoU8N+yKPWZ0nBYg4zjkLK2Xk1bwvCm0rL871dhrdd/c= =Y84z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GnDvfWNXS4mdTlXGo1jlAcsMM2QjXQdhK-- From unknown Fri Aug 15 02:02:46 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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