From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 10:38:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 18522@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.14113822702723 (code B ref -1); Mon, 22 Sep 2014 10:38:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Sep 2014 10:37:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48129 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XW109-0000hq-62 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 06:37:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58253) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XW103-0000hd-Rd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 06:37:44 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XW0zw-0007iP-Bz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 06:37:43 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:34778) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XW0zw-0007aR-9K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 06:37:36 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59929) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XW0zk-0005az-Vt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 06:37:31 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XW0ze-0007Xc-Ln for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 06:37:24 -0400 Received: from smtp09.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.131]:21072 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XW0ze-0007Vb-Cn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 06:37:18 -0400 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.11.45.171]) by mwinf5d32 with ME id uAdB1o00A3hbdka03AdBbi; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 12:37:11 +0200 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 12:37:11 +0200 X-ME-IP: 2.11.45.171 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1EAF4A616B7; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 12:37:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 12:37:11 +0200 Message-ID: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Hi, ELP shows, that the mapcar function called from gnus-thread-latest-date takes a lot of time (uptime of emacs is several days): function calls total time [s] time per call [s] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- mapcar 20250 5.3743043500 0.0002653977 After restarting emacs: mapcar 21468 0.1387124370 6.461...e-06 About 40 times faster now!! Thanks in advance for any help or hints how to debug further, Further details: In GNU Emacs 24.4.50.1 (x86_64-suse-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.10.9) of 2014-09-14 on micropit Repository revision: 117880 michael.albinus@gmx.de-20140914090011-2k4yr2tapso2uoz6 Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11403901 System Description: openSUSE 13.1 (Bottle) (x86_64) Configured using: `configure --without-toolkit-scroll-bars' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS GCONF GSETTINGS NOTIFY LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: en_GB.utf8 value of $LC_CTYPE: en_GB.utf8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Group Minor modes in effect: gnus-undo-mode: t pm/keys-minor-mode: t savehist-mode: t show-paren-mode: t tooltip-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t Features: (shadow emacsbug mule-util mm-archive gnus-dup org-colview elp misearch multi-isearch mailalias bbdb-message vc-dispatcher vc-svn org-rmail org-mhe org-irc org-info org-gnus org-docview org-bibtex bibtex org-bbdb org-w3m sort smiley gnus-cite mail-extr gnus-async gnus-bcklg qp gnus-salt gnus-ml disp-table bbdb-gnus bbdb-mua bbdb-com crm gnus-delay gnus-draft nndraft nnmh nnml gnus-agent gnus-srvr gnus-score score-mode nnvirtual gnus-msg gnus-cache gnus-demon nntp gnus-icalendar org-capture gnus-art mm-uu mm-view mml-smime smime dig gnus-sum gnus-group gnus-undo icalendar diary-lib diary-loaddefs json jl-encrypt epg mml2015 epg-config gnus-start gnus-cloud nnimap nnmail mail-source tls utf7 netrc nnoo parse-time gnus-spec gnus-int gnus-range message sendmail dired rfc822 mml mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader gnus-win gnus gnus-ems gnus-compat url url-proxy url-privacy url-expand url-methods url-history url-cookie url-domsuf url-util url-parse auth-source eieio eieio-core password-cache url-vars mailcap nnheader gnus-util mail-utils mm-util mail-prsvr wid-edit notifications dbus xml wombat-theme savehist paren delsel server org-clock bbdb bbdb-site timezone lua-mode edmacro kmacro rx org-notify org-element org byte-opt bytecomp byte-compile cconv advice help-fns org-macro org-footnote org-pcomplete pcomplete org-list org-faces org-entities noutline outline easy-mmode org-version ob-emacs-lisp ob ob-tangle org-src ob-ref ob-lob ob-table ob-keys ob-exp ob-comint ob-core ob-eval org-compat org-macs org-loaddefs format-spec find-func cal-menu calendar cal-loaddefs slime-autoloads cl-macs bbdb-loaddefs tex-site auto-loads gnus-load cl gv autoinsert compile comint ansi-color po-mode php-mode derived etags ring cc-langs cl-loaddefs cl-lib cc-mode cc-fonts cc-guess cc-menus cc-cmds cc-styles cc-align cc-engine cc-vars cc-defs speedbar sb-image ezimage dframe easymenu time-date tooltip electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel x-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind gfilenotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 344956 38663) (symbols 48 43128 62) (miscs 40 123 587) (strings 32 96718 17145) (string-bytes 1 3253927) (vectors 16 43741) (vector-slots 8 1564631 71072) (floats 8 335 1543) (intervals 56 2324 486) (buffers 976 21) (heap 1024 66555 4558)) -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: further information References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 10:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.14113826053275 (code B ref 18522); Mon, 22 Sep 2014 10:44:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Sep 2014 10:43:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48134 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XW15Y-0000ql-QN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 06:43:25 -0400 Received: from smtp09.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.131]:33173 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XW15V-0000qZ-Sg for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 06:43:22 -0400 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.11.45.171]) by mwinf5d32 with ME id uAjL1o0093hbdka03AjLyT; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 12:43:20 +0200 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 12:43:20 +0200 X-ME-IP: 2.11.45.171 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E53B1A616B7; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 12:43:19 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 12:43:19 +0200 Message-ID: <87y4tcc4vs.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (=?UTF-8?Q?=E7=9C=9F?= Gnus v0.12) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Hi, Here is a thread about this issue: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/84605 -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 12:50:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.141139015424876 (code B ref 18522); Mon, 22 Sep 2014 12:50:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Sep 2014 12:49:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48212 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XW33J-0006T9-0u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 08:49:13 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:45269) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XW33F-0006Sz-J5 for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 08:49:10 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArYGAIDvNVNFpZEG/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSr0vgw6BFxd0giUBAQEBAgFWIwULCzQSFBgNJIgECNIZF456B4Q4BKkZgWqDTCE X-IPAS-Result: ArYGAIDvNVNFpZEG/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSr0vgw6BFxd0giUBAQEBAgFWIwULCzQSFBgNJIgECNIZF456B4Q4BKkZgWqDTCE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="90540490" Received: from 69-165-145-6.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.145.6]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 22 Sep 2014 08:49:08 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 5BE4461782; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 08:49:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 08:49:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> ("Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?="'s message of "Mon, 22 Sep 2014 12:37:11 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > ELP shows, that the mapcar function called from gnus-thread-latest-date > takes a lot of time (uptime of emacs is several days): This is the wrong measurement: it just means that some calls to mapcar spend a lot of time in the corresponding loop, but the time for mapcar includes the time spent in the function passed to mapcar, which is where most of the time is likely spent anyway. Could you use the native, sampling, profiler instead of ELP? - M-x profiler-start RET RET - ... reproduce the slow operation ... - M-x profiler-report RET - C-u RET on the first entry to unfold it Stefan From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 13:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Monnier Cc: 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.141139368330465 (code B ref 18522); Mon, 22 Sep 2014 13:49:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Sep 2014 13:48:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48263 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XW3yE-0007vI-V5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 09:48:03 -0400 Received: from smtp02.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.124]:21472 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XW3yB-0007us-Pb for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 09:48:00 -0400 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.11.45.171]) by mwinf5d49 with ME id uDnw1o00D3hbdka03Dnwnt; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:47:58 +0200 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:47:58 +0200 X-ME-IP: 2.11.45.171 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1A759A616B7; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:47:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:47:56 +0200 Message-ID: <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (=?UTF-8?Q?=E7=9C=9F?= Gnus v0.12) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Mon, Sep 22 2014, Stefan Monnier wrote: > the time for mapcar includes the time spent in the function passed to > mapcar, which is where most of the time is likely spent anyway. Yes. The function is: (lambda (header) (gnus-float-time (gnus-date-get-time (mail-header-date header)))) I've checked all 3 functions (gnus-float-time, gnus-date-get-time and mail-header-date) with ELP, but emacs did not spend any significant time in these 3 functions... > Could you use the native, sampling, profiler instead of ELP? > > - M-x profiler-start RET RET > - ... reproduce the slow operation ... > - M-x profiler-report RET > - C-u RET on the first entry to unfold it Yes. I'll do that in some days, when mapcar becomes slow again. -- Peter From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 23 05:48:35 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Sep 2014 09:48:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49442 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XWMi3-000839-Ez for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 05:48:35 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:52998) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XWMi0-000830-LC for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 05:48:33 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XWMi0-0006ZL-BD for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 05:48:32 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 05:48:32 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 18522 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) retitle 18522 occasional slow performance in some Gnus code From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 21:37:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Stefan Monnier Cc: 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.141168100815370 (code B ref 18522); Thu, 25 Sep 2014 21:37:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Sep 2014 21:36:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52379 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XXGiU-0003zo-86 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Sep 2014 17:36:47 -0400 Received: from smtp12.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.134]:25551 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XXGiP-0003zc-1H for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Sep 2014 17:36:43 -0400 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.12.132.144]) by mwinf5d35 with ME id vZcc1o00A374sUq03ZcdtS; Thu, 25 Sep 2014 23:36:39 +0200 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 23:36:39 +0200 X-ME-IP: 2.12.132.144 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A1279A6149E; Thu, 25 Sep 2014 23:36:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 23:36:36 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> ("Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?="'s message of "Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:47:56 +0200") Message-ID: <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (=?UTF-8?Q?=E7=9C=9F?= Gnus v0.12) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, Sep 22 2014, Peter Münster wrote: >> Could you use the native, sampling, profiler instead of ELP? >> >> - M-x profiler-start RET RET >> - ... reproduce the slow operation ... >> - M-x profiler-report RET >> - C-u RET on the first entry to unfold it > > Yes. I'll do that in some days, when mapcar becomes slow again. Hi, Please find attached 2 files with profiler-reports when entering a Gnus group: - profiler-slow.txt: entering a group is slow, and emacs was uptime since about 3 days - profiler-fast.txt: entering the same group after a fresh restart of emacs -- Peter --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=profiler-slow.txt - command-execute 2464 45% - call-interactively 2463 45% - funcall-interactively 2158 39% - gnus-group-select-group 1964 36% - gnus-group-read-group 1964 36% - gnus-summary-read-group 1964 36% - gnus-summary-read-group-1 1964 36% - gnus-summary-prepare 1325 24% - gnus-sort-threads 1116 20% - byte-code 1116 20% - gnus-sort-threads-recursive 1116 20% - sort 1116 20% - # 1116 20% - gnus-thread-sort-by-most-recent-date 1116 20% - gnus-thread-latest-date 1114 20% - mapcar 1090 20% - apply 1090 20% - # 1090 20% - apply 1082 20% - # 1081 20% - # 1079 19% - safe-date-to-time 1075 19% - date-to-time 1074 19% - byte-code 1074 19% - parse-time-string 1059 19% - parse-time-tokenize 25 0% byte-code 5 0% apply 2 0% time-subtract 2 0% - message-flatten-list 24 0% - mapcar 23 0% - apply 21 0% - # 19 0% - apply 10 0% - # 10 0% - message-flatten-list 10 0% - mapcar 9 0% - apply 9 0% - # 6 0% - apply 6 0% - # 6 0% - message-flatten-list 6 0% - mapcar 6 0% - apply 6 0% - # 5 0% time-subtract 2 0% - apply 2 0% - # 2 0% - message-flatten-list 2 0% - mapcar 2 0% apply 2 0% time-subtract 2 0% apply 1 0% - gnus-summary-prepare-threads 174 3% - eval 164 3% - let 164 3% - gnus-add-text-properties 156 2% - progn 156 2% - insert 155 2% - format 152 2% - let* 126 2% - eval 126 2% - let 126 2% - eval 124 2% - gnus-summary-from-or-to-or-newsgroups 123 2% - mail-decode-encoded-address-string 117 2% - rfc2047-decode-string 93 1% - rfc2047-decode-encoded-words 43 0% - byte-code 43 0% - quoted-printable-decode-string 41 0% generate-new-buffer 16 0% - byte-code 7 0% - kill-buffer 3 0% - replace-buffer-in-windows 2 0% unrecord-window-buffer 1 0% uniquify-kill-buffer-function 1 0% mm-disable-multibyte 5 0% quoted-printable-decode-region 1 0% generate-new-buffer 27 0% - byte-code 18 0% - kill-buffer 4 0% - replace-buffer-in-windows 2 0% - unrecord-window-buffer 1 0% window-normalize-window 1 0% uniquify-kill-buffer-function 1 0% gnus-extract-address-components 3 0% - if 1 0% if 1 0% - gnus-user-date 25 0% - byte-code 23 0% - eval 13 0% gnus-seconds-today 7 0% gnus-seconds-year 6 0% seconds-to-time 1 0% if 1 0% - mapcar 4 0% - apply 4 0% - # 4 0% apply 1 0% gnus-summary-highlight-line 2 0% - gnus-gather-threads-by-references 25 0% - mail-header-remove-comments 24 0% generate-new-buffer 15 0% - byte-code 7 0% - kill-buffer 2 0% - replace-buffer-in-windows 1 0% unrecord-window-buffer 1 0% - gnus-make-threads 2 0% - mapatoms 2 0% - # 2 0% - mapcar 2 0% - apply 2 0% - # 1 0% time-subtract 1 0% - gnus-select-newsgroup 633 11% - gnus-fetch-headers 629 11% - gnus-get-newsgroup-headers-xover 627 11% - byte-code 616 11% - byte-code 532 9% - mail-decode-encoded-address-string 356 6% - rfc2047-decode-string 280 5% - rfc2047-decode-encoded-words 194 3% - byte-code 191 3% - quoted-printable-decode-string 187 3% generate-new-buffer 61 1% - byte-code 38 0% - kill-buffer 6 0% - replace-buffer-in-windows 2 0% unrecord-window-buffer 2 0% mm-disable-multibyte 31 0% quoted-printable-decode-region 2 0% rfc2047-charset-to-coding-system 3 0% - generate-new-buffer 45 0% get-buffer-create 1 0% - byte-code 29 0% - kill-buffer 4 0% - replace-buffer-in-windows 2 0% unrecord-window-buffer 1 0% - rfc2047-strip-backslashes-in-quoted-strings 2 0% byte-code 1 0% - mail-decode-encoded-word-string 129 2% - rfc2047-decode-encoded-words 91 1% - byte-code 89 1% - quoted-printable-decode-string 88 1% generate-new-buffer 27 0% mm-disable-multibyte 18 0% - byte-code 16 0% - kill-buffer 3 0% - replace-buffer-in-windows 2 0% unrecord-window-buffer 1 0% - quoted-printable-decode-region 2 0% mm-coding-system-p 1 0% rfc2047-charset-to-coding-system 1 0% byte-code 18 0% generate-new-buffer 14 0% - mail-header-remove-comments 57 1% generate-new-buffer 43 0% - byte-code 12 0% - kill-buffer 4 0% replace-buffer-in-windows 1 0% ietf-drums-unfold-fws 2 0% - gnus-retrieve-headers 2 0% - gnus-cache-retrieve-headers 2 0% - gnus-retrieve-headers 2 0% - nnml-retrieve-headers 2 0% - nnml-retrieve-headers-with-nov 2 0% - nnheader-insert-file-contents 1 0% mm-insert-file-contents 1 0% nnheader-nov-delete-outside-range 1 0% - gnus-request-group 1 0% - nnml-request-group 1 0% nnml-possibly-change-directory 1 0% - gnus-set-global-variables 1 0% generate-new-buffer 1 0% - gnus-group-auto-expirable-p 1 0% gnus-group-find-parameter 1 0% - gnus-article-setup-buffer 1 0% - gnus-article-mode 1 0% - gnus-update-format-specifications 1 0% gnus-continuum-version 1 0% - gnus-summary-setup-buffer 2 0% gnus-get-buffer-create 1 0% - gnus-summary-mode 1 0% - gnus-update-summary-mark-positions 1 0% - gnus-summary-insert-line 1 0% - byte-code 1 0% - eval 1 0% - let 1 0% - gnus-add-text-properties 1 0% - progn 1 0% - insert 1 0% format 1 0% - gnus-possibly-score-headers 1 0% - gnus-all-score-files 1 0% - gnus-score-find-bnews 1 0% gnus-get-buffer-create 1 0% - gnus-summary-initial-limit 1 0% - 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profiler-calltree-build 8 0% - profiler-calltree-build-unified 8 0% - maphash 8 0% # 2 0% - # 1 0% - puthash 1 0% # 1 0% # 1 0% profiler-report-setup-buffer-1 1 0% - switch-to-buffer-other-window 1 0% - pop-to-buffer 1 0% - display-buffer 1 0% - display-buffer--maybe-pop-up-frame-or-window 1 0% - display-buffer-pop-up-window 1 0% - window--try-to-split-window 1 0% - funcall 1 0% - split-window-sensibly 1 0% - split-window-below 1 0% - split-window 1 0% byte-code 1 0% profiler-cpu-profile 8 0% - profiler-report-toggle-entry 14 0% - profiler-report-expand-entry 13 0% - profiler-report-expand-entry 11 0% - profiler-report-insert-calltree-children 10 0% - mapc 10 0% - profiler-report-insert-calltree 8 0% - profiler-report-line-format 7 0% - profiler-format 4 0% - apply 4 0% profiler-format 1 0% profiler-report-make-name-part 1 0% - profiler-report-insert-calltree-children 1 0% mapc 1 0% left-char 7 0% - find-file 6 0% - find-file-noselect 6 0% - find-file-noselect-1 4 0% - after-find-file 4 0% - normal-mode 2 0% - funcall 2 0% - # 2 0% - set-auto-mode 2 0% - hack-local-variables 2 0% - inhibit-local-variables-p 2 0% file-name-sans-versions 2 0% - run-hooks 2 0% - vc-find-file-hook 2 0% - vc-backend 2 0% - vc-registered 2 0% - byte-code 2 0% - mapc 1 0% - # 1 0% - vc-call-backend 1 0% - apply 1 0% - vc-svn-registered 1 0% generate-new-buffer 1 0% - find-buffer-visiting 1 0% file-truename 1 0% scroll-up-command 3 0% - end-of-buffer 3 0% push-mark 2 0% right-char 2 0% - kill-ring-save 2 0% - copy-region-as-kill 2 0% - # 2 0% - apply 2 0% - rectangle--extract-region 2 0% - # 2 0% - filter-buffer-substring 2 0% - buffer-substring--filter 2 0% - # 2 0% apply 2 0% - yank 2 0% - current-kill 1 0% - x-selection-value 1 0% x-selection-value-internal 1 0% - insert-for-yank 1 0% - insert-for-yank-1 1 0% remove-yank-excluded-properties 1 0% - pm/save-buffer 2 0% - save-buffer 2 0% - basic-save-buffer 1 0% - basic-save-buffer-1 1 0% - basic-save-buffer-2 1 0% - write-region 1 0% - select-safe-coding-system 1 0% - find-auto-coding 1 0% auto-coding-alist-lookup 1 0% - universal-argument 1 0% universal-argument--mode 1 0% - newline 1 0% self-insert-command 1 0% - byte-code 305 5% - read-extended-command 263 4% - completing-read 263 4% - completing-read-default 263 4% - read-from-minibuffer 225 4% - command-execute 103 1% - call-interactively 103 1% - funcall-interactively 103 1% - minibuffer-complete 102 1% - completion-in-region 102 1% - completion--in-region 102 1% - # 102 1% - apply 102 1% - # 102 1% - completion--in-region-1 102 1% - completion--do-completion 101 1% - completion-try-completion 55 1% - completion--nth-completion 55 1% - completion--some 55 1% - funcall 55 1% - # 55 1% - # 55 1% - completion-basic-try-completion 55 1% - try-completion 2 0% - completion-file-name-table 2 0% - funcall 2 0% # 2 0% - minibuffer-completion-help 38 0% - funcall 22 0% - # 22 0% fit-window-to-buffer 22 0% - completion-all-completions 11 0% - completion--nth-completion 11 0% - completion--some 11 0% - funcall 11 0% - # 11 0% - # 11 0% - completion-basic-all-completions 11 0% completion-pcm--all-completions 11 0% - temp-buffer-window-show 3 0% - display-buffer 2 0% - display-buffer-at-bottom 2 0% - walk-window-tree 1 0% - walk-window-tree-1 1 0% - walk-window-tree-1 1 0% - # 1 0% window-in-direction 1 0% - byte-code 1 0% - split-window 1 0% byte-code 1 0% - display-completion-list 1 0% - run-hooks 1 0% completion-setup-function 1 0% - completion--done 7 0% - completion--message 7 0% - minibuffer-message 7 0% sit-for 6 0% - minibuffer-hide-completions 1 0% - bury-buffer 1 0% - window--delete 1 0% - delete-window 1 0% byte-code 1 0% - pos-visible-in-window-p 1 0% - eval 1 0% if 1 0% - backward-kill-word 1 0% - kill-word 1 0% - kill-region 1 0% - funcall 1 0% - # 1 0% - kill-new 1 0% - x-select-text 1 0% x-set-selection 1 0% - timer-event-handler 23 0% - byte-code 20 0% - apply 20 0% - file-truename 1 0% - file-symlink-p 1 0% - tramp-completion-file-name-handler 1 0% - let 1 0% - if 1 0% - tramp-completion-run-real-handler 1 0% - let* 1 0% - apply 1 0% - file-symlink-p 1 0% - tramp-completion-file-name-handler 1 0% - let 1 0% - if 1 0% - tramp-completion-run-real-handler 1 0% - let* 1 0% apply 1 0% - timer-activate-when-idle 1 0% - timer--activate 1 0% timer--time-less-p 1 0% redisplay_internal (C function) 1 0% - find-file-read-args 42 0% - read-file-name 42 0% - read-file-name-default 42 0% - completing-read 41 0% - completing-read-default 41 0% - read-from-minibuffer 20 0% - timer-event-handler 1 0% - byte-code 1 0% apply 1 0% + ... 1819 33% + timer-event-handler 1074 19% + redisplay_internal (C function) 36 0% + internal-timer-start-idle 3 0% tooltip-hide 3 0% + deactivate-mark 1 0% + gnus-set-global-variables 1 0% --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=profiler-fast.txt - command-execute 303 70% - call-interactively 303 70% - funcall-interactively 272 63% - gnus-group-select-group 261 60% - gnus-group-read-group 261 60% - gnus-summary-read-group 261 60% - gnus-summary-read-group-1 261 60% - gnus-summary-prepare 149 34% - gnus-sort-threads 80 18% - byte-code 80 18% - gnus-sort-threads-recursive 80 18% - sort 69 16% - # 68 15% - gnus-thread-sort-by-most-recent-date 67 15% - gnus-thread-latest-date 67 15% - mapcar 64 14% - # 63 14% - safe-date-to-time 61 14% - date-to-time 61 14% - byte-code 60 13% - parse-time-string 54 12% - parse-time-tokenize 8 1% byte-code 2 0% apply 3 0% - mapcar 11 2% - # 11 2% - gnus-sort-subthreads-recursive 11 2% - sort 7 1% - # 7 1% - gnus-thread-sort-by-most-recent-date 7 1% - gnus-thread-latest-date 7 1% - mapcar 7 1% - # 7 1% - safe-date-to-time 7 1% - date-to-time 7 1% - byte-code 7 1% - parse-time-string 7 1% parse-time-tokenize 1 0% - mapcar 4 0% - # 4 0% - gnus-sort-subthreads-recursive 4 0% - mapcar 3 0% - # 3 0% - gnus-sort-subthreads-recursive 3 0% - sort 3 0% - # 3 0% - gnus-thread-sort-by-most-recent-date 3 0% - gnus-thread-latest-date 3 0% - mapcar 3 0% - # 3 0% - safe-date-to-time 3 0% - date-to-time 3 0% - byte-code 3 0% - parse-time-string 3 0% parse-time-tokenize 1 0% - sort 1 0% - # 1 0% - gnus-thread-sort-by-most-recent-date 1 0% - gnus-thread-latest-date 1 0% - mapcar 1 0% - # 1 0% - safe-date-to-time 1 0% - date-to-time 1 0% - byte-code 1 0% apply 1 0% - gnus-summary-prepare-threads 57 13% - eval 46 10% - let 46 10% - gnus-add-text-properties 44 10% - progn 43 9% - insert 42 9% - format 39 9% - let* 19 4% - eval 18 4% - let 18 4% - eval 18 4% - gnus-summary-from-or-to-or-newsgroups 18 4% - mail-decode-encoded-address-string 13 3% - rfc2047-decode-string 7 1% - rfc2047-decode-encoded-words 4 0% - byte-code 4 0% quoted-printable-decode-string 2 0% - byte-code 2 0% - kill-buffer 1 0% - replace-buffer-in-windows 1 0% unrecord-window-buffer 1 0% rfc2047-strip-backslashes-in-quoted-strings 1 0% gnus-extract-address-components 1 0% - gnus-user-date 19 4% - byte-code 16 3% - eval 12 2% gnus-seconds-year 8 1% gnus-seconds-today 3 0% - 1 0% cons 1 0% if 1 0% gnus-summary-highlight-line 5 1% apply 1 0% - gnus-gather-threads-by-references 2 0% - mail-header-remove-comments 2 0% - byte-code 2 0% - kill-buffer 1 0% replace-buffer-in-windows 1 0% - gnus-select-newsgroup 109 25% - gnus-fetch-headers 107 24% - gnus-get-newsgroup-headers-xover 105 24% - byte-code 98 22% - byte-code 78 18% - mail-decode-encoded-address-string 53 12% - rfc2047-decode-string 41 9% - rfc2047-decode-encoded-words 25 5% - byte-code 23 5% - quoted-printable-decode-string 18 4% generate-new-buffer 3 0% mm-disable-multibyte 3 0% - byte-code 2 0% kill-buffer 1 0% - rfc2047-charset-to-coding-system 1 0% mm-charset-to-coding-system 1 0% generate-new-buffer 3 0% byte-code 3 0% rfc2047-strip-backslashes-in-quoted-strings 2 0% - mail-decode-encoded-word-string 15 3% - rfc2047-decode-encoded-words 11 2% - byte-code 11 2% - quoted-printable-decode-string 8 1% - byte-code 4 0% kill-buffer 2 0% mm-disable-multibyte 2 0% generate-new-buffer 1 0% generate-new-buffer 1 0% byte-code 1 0% - mail-header-remove-comments 3 0% - byte-code 3 0% - kill-buffer 1 0% replace-buffer-in-windows 1 0% - gnus-retrieve-headers 2 0% - gnus-cache-retrieve-headers 2 0% - gnus-retrieve-headers 2 0% - nnml-retrieve-headers 2 0% - nnml-retrieve-headers-with-nov 2 0% - nnheader-insert-file-contents 2 0% mm-insert-file-contents 2 0% gnus-articles-to-read 1 0% - gnus-summary-setup-buffer 1 0% - gnus-summary-mode 1 0% - gnus-update-summary-mark-positions 1 0% gnus-summary-insert-line 1 0% - gnus-summary-initial-limit 1 0% mapatoms 1 0% - gnus-summary-auto-select-subject 1 0% - gnus-summary-first-unread-subject 1 0% - gnus-summary-first-subject 1 0% - gnus-message 1 0% apply 1 0% - execute-extended-command 11 2% - command-execute 8 1% - call-interactively 8 1% - funcall-interactively 8 1% - profiler-report 8 1% - profiler-report-cpu 8 1% profiler-cpu-profile 8 1% - byte-code 31 7% - read-extended-command 31 7% - completing-read 31 7% - completing-read-default 31 7% read-from-minibuffer 22 5% + ... 128 29% --=-=-=-- From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:58:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.141171463616957 (code B ref 18522); Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:58:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Sep 2014 06:57:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52529 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XXPSt-0004PR-M6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 02:57:16 -0400 Received: from mtaout25.012.net.il ([80.179.55.181]:53096) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XXPSp-0004PF-Rn for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 02:57:13 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout25.012.net.il by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NCH00E00XI87400@mtaout25.012.net.il> for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 09:52:13 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NCH00D0EXR1XP10@mtaout25.012.net.il>; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 09:52:13 +0300 (IDT) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 09:57:10 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> X-Spam-Score: 3.7 (+++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. 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Content preview: > From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= > Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 23:36:36 +0200 > Cc: 18522@debbugs.gnu.org > > Please find attached 2 files with profiler-reports when entering a Gnus > group: > - profiler-slow.txt: entering a group is slow, and emacs was uptime since > about 3 days > - profiler-fast.txt: entering the same group after a fresh restart of emacs [...] Content analysis details: (3.7 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.7 RCVD_IN_PSBL RBL: Received via a relay in PSBL [80.179.55.181 listed in psbl.surriel.com] 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 3.7 (+++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. 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Content preview: > From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= > Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 23:36:36 +0200 > Cc: 18522@debbugs.gnu.org > > Please find attached 2 files with profiler-reports when entering a Gnus > group: > - profiler-slow.txt: entering a group is slow, and emacs was uptime since > about 3 days > - profiler-fast.txt: entering the same group after a fresh restart of emacs [...] Content analysis details: (3.7 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.7 RCVD_IN_PSBL RBL: Received via a relay in PSBL [80.179.55.181 listed in psbl.surriel.com] 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) > From: Peter Münster > Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 23:36:36 +0200 > Cc: 18522@debbugs.gnu.org > > Please find attached 2 files with profiler-reports when entering a Gnus > group: > - profiler-slow.txt: entering a group is slow, and emacs was uptime since > about 3 days > - profiler-fast.txt: entering the same group after a fresh restart of emacs Is that for the same input? How come command-execute was called 2464 times in the first profile, and only 303 times in the second? This alone can explain an 8-fold slowdown. Sorry if this is a silly question: I don't use Gnus. But to compare 2 profiles, you need to create each one of them when Emacs does the same job in each time. Otherwise, there's a factor at work that we cannot glean from the profile alone. Anyway, looks like gnus-summary-read-group-1 takes a lot of CPU in both cases, which is above the mapcar part. Below mapcar, the most expensive part is parse-time-string, which doesn't really surprise me. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 07:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.141171571118656 (code B ref 18522); Fri, 26 Sep 2014 07:16:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Sep 2014 07:15:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52541 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XXPkE-0004qp-6D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 03:15:10 -0400 Received: from smtp11.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.133]:50954 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XXPkA-0004qf-Hg for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 03:15:07 -0400 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.12.132.144]) by mwinf5d46 with ME id vjF21o00A374sUq03jF208; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 09:15:05 +0200 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 09:15:05 +0200 X-ME-IP: 2.12.132.144 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E4F7AA616D2; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 09:15:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 09:15:01 +0200 Message-ID: <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (=?UTF-8?Q?=E7=9C=9F?= Gnus v0.12) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Fri, Sep 26 2014, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Please find attached 2 files with profiler-reports when entering a Gnus >> group: >> - profiler-slow.txt: entering a group is slow, and emacs was uptime since >> about 3 days >> - profiler-fast.txt: entering the same group after a fresh restart of emacs > > Is that for the same input? Yes. In both cases I call gnus-group-select-group for the same group. > How come command-execute was called 2464 times in the first profile, > and only 303 times in the second? This alone can explain an 8-fold > slowdown. Sorry, I forgot to label the columns: 303 and 2464 are "CPU samples". > Anyway, looks like gnus-summary-read-group-1 takes a lot of CPU in > both cases, which is above the mapcar part. Below mapcar, the most > expensive part is parse-time-string, which doesn't really surprise me. On line 16, the slow mapcar takes 1090 CPU samples and the fast one 64. Below line 16, the profiler outputs are different and I don't know why and how to debug further... -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 07:37:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.141171700920709 (code B ref 18522); Fri, 26 Sep 2014 07:37:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Sep 2014 07:36:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52550 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XXQ5A-0005Nu-Ht for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 03:36:49 -0400 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:45352) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XXQ57-0005Nk-76 for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 03:36:46 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NCH00400ZJR0B00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:36:42 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NCH003WWZT6YI20@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:36:42 +0300 (IDT) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:36:43 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Peter Münster > Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 09:15:01 +0200 > > > How come command-execute was called 2464 times in the first profile, > > and only 303 times in the second? This alone can explain an 8-fold > > slowdown. > > Sorry, I forgot to label the columns: 303 and 2464 are "CPU samples". No, it's me that needs to be sorry: I keep forgetting that. > > Anyway, looks like gnus-summary-read-group-1 takes a lot of CPU in > > both cases, which is above the mapcar part. Below mapcar, the most > > expensive part is parse-time-string, which doesn't really surprise me. > > On line 16, the slow mapcar takes 1090 CPU samples and the fast one 64. > Below line 16, the profiler outputs are different and I don't know why > and how to debug further... I think the conclusion is that parse-time-string takes the blame. To see what part in parse-time-string is the culprit, perhaps load parse-time.el (the source) before the experiment, and maybe the profile will show more useful info. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 19:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.141219333316530 (code B ref 18522); Wed, 01 Oct 2014 19:56:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2014 19:55:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57724 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XZPzn-0004IW-L8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 15:55:32 -0400 Received: from smtp06.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.128]:48823 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XZPzi-0004IK-SA for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 15:55:29 -0400 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([90.32.239.99]) by mwinf5d29 with ME id xvvN1o00229N6cA03vvNZP; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 21:55:25 +0200 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 21:55:25 +0200 X-ME-IP: 90.32.239.99 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B1324A61740; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 21:55:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 21:55:21 +0200 Message-ID: <87vbo3imza.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (=?UTF-8?Q?=E7=9C=9F?= Gnus v0.12) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Fri, Sep 26 2014, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I think the conclusion is that parse-time-string takes the blame. To > see what part in parse-time-string is the culprit, perhaps load > parse-time.el (the source) before the experiment, and maybe the > profile will show more useful info. This is the result: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- - command-execute 3228 94% - call-interactively 3228 94% - funcall-interactively 3150 92% - gnus-group-select-group 3142 92% - gnus-group-read-group 3142 92% - gnus-summary-read-group 3142 92% - gnus-summary-read-group-1 3142 92% - gnus-summary-prepare 2772 81% - gnus-sort-threads 2657 78% - byte-code 2657 78% - gnus-sort-threads-recursive 2657 78% - sort 2649 77% - # 2649 77% - gnus-thread-sort-by-most-recent-date 2648 77% - gnus-thread-latest-date 2648 77% - mapcar 2647 77% - # 2645 77% - safe-date-to-time 2641 77% - date-to-time 2641 77% - byte-code 2641 77% - parse-time-string 2638 77% - let 2637 77% - parse-time-tokenize 2613 76% - let 2612 76% - while 2612 76% - while 2605 76% - and 2602 76% - setq 1719 50% - parse-time-string-chars 1712 50% - save-match-data 1697 49% - let 1689 49% - unwind-protect 1680 49% - progn 1675 49% - let 26 0% - cond 19 0% string-match 1 0% - not 876 25% - setq 875 25% - 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timer-event-handler 1 0% - timer-activate-when-idle 1 0% - timer--activate 1 0% timer--time-less-p 1 0% + ... 167 4% + timer-event-handler 6 0% redisplay_internal (C function) 1 0% --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Is "progn" the problem? What do you think? -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 19:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= , 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.141219352816823 (code B ref 18522); Wed, 01 Oct 2014 19:59:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2014 19:58:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57729 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XZQ2x-0004NH-TI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 15:58:48 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:37574) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XZQ2w-0004N6-2p for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 15:58:46 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XZQ2u-00034w-Ib; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 15:58:44 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: espionage militia Glock United Nations domestic X-Ran: q,W\%Q?X_=u=K\{g;`$~LpES_=1k%uWoQdn]5(x^K0V9E[ln{r7(!&jT`r_q<"yGDak(xg X-Hue: blue X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 15:58:44 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:36:43 +0300") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I think the conclusion is that parse-time-string takes the blame. http://debbugs.gnu.org/14776 From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 20:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Glenn Morris Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.141219512819346 (code B ref 18522); Wed, 01 Oct 2014 20:26:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2014 20:25:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57744 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XZQSj-00051v-QY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 16:25:27 -0400 Received: from smtp06.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.128]:34795 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XZQSb-00051f-Tb for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 16:25:22 -0400 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([90.32.239.99]) by mwinf5d29 with ME id xwRG1o00129N6cA03wRGiC; Wed, 01 Oct 2014 22:25:16 +0200 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 22:25:16 +0200 X-ME-IP: 90.32.239.99 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EC261A61740; Wed, 1 Oct 2014 22:25:15 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 22:25:15 +0200 Message-ID: <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (=?UTF-8?Q?=E7=9C=9F?= Gnus v0.12) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain On Wed, Oct 01 2014, Glenn Morris wrote: > http://debbugs.gnu.org/14776 Thanks. But it does not explain, why it's much faster after restarting emacs. Please find attached 2 recent profiler reports for comparison. -- Peter --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=profiler-slow3.txt - command-execute 3228 94% - call-interactively 3228 94% - funcall-interactively 3150 92% - gnus-group-select-group 3142 92% - gnus-group-read-group 3142 92% - gnus-summary-read-group 3142 92% - gnus-summary-read-group-1 3142 92% - gnus-summary-prepare 2772 81% - gnus-sort-threads 2657 78% - byte-code 2657 78% - gnus-sort-threads-recursive 2657 78% - sort 2649 77% - # 2649 77% - gnus-thread-sort-by-most-recent-date 2648 77% - gnus-thread-latest-date 2648 77% - mapcar 2647 77% - # 2645 77% - safe-date-to-time 2641 77% - date-to-time 2641 77% - byte-code 2641 77% - parse-time-string 2638 77% - let 2637 77% - parse-time-tokenize 2613 76% - let 2612 76% - while 2612 76% - while 2605 76% - and 2602 76% - setq 1719 50% - parse-time-string-chars 1712 50% - save-match-data 1697 49% - let 1689 49% - unwind-protect 1680 49% - progn 1675 49% - 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mail-header-remove-comments 6 0% generate-new-buffer 3 0% byte-code 2 0% ietf-drums-unfold-fws 1 0% - gnus-retrieve-headers 2 0% - gnus-cache-retrieve-headers 2 0% - gnus-retrieve-headers 2 0% - nnml-retrieve-headers 2 0% - nnml-retrieve-headers-with-nov 2 0% - nnheader-insert-file-contents 1 0% mm-insert-file-contents 1 0% nnheader-nov-delete-outside-range 1 0% gnus-articles-to-read 1 0% mapcar 1 0% gnus-group-decoded-name 1 0% - gnus-summary-setup-buffer 1 0% - gnus-summary-mode 1 0% - gnus-update-summary-mark-positions 1 0% - gnus-summary-insert-line 1 0% - byte-code 1 0% - eval 1 0% - let 1 0% - gnus-add-text-properties 1 0% - progn 1 0% - insert 1 0% - format 1 0% - let* 1 0% - eval 1 0% - let 1 0% eval 1 0% gnus-set-global-variables 1 0% - gnus-summary-initial-limit 1 0% - mapatoms 1 0% # 1 0% - gnus-set-mode-line 1 0% - gnus-group-decoded-name 1 0% gnus-group-name-charset 1 0% - execute-extended-command 7 0% - command-execute 6 0% - call-interactively 6 0% - funcall-interactively 6 0% - profiler-report 6 0% - profiler-report-cpu 6 0% profiler-cpu-profile 6 0% - byte-code 45 3% - read-extended-command 45 3% - completing-read 45 3% - completing-read-default 45 3% read-from-minibuffer 27 2% + ... 186 15% redisplay_internal (C function) 1 0% --=-=-=-- From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 08:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: Glenn Morris , Eli Zaretskii , 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.142381610018597 (code B ref 18522); Fri, 13 Feb 2015 08:29:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Feb 2015 08:28:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41258 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YMBbo-0004pq-3U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 03:28:20 -0500 Received: from smtp.syd.comcen.com.au ([203.23.236.77]:3050) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YMBbm-0004pf-3P for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 03:28:18 -0500 Received: from building.gnus.org ([27.96.197.126]) by smtp.syd.comcen.com.au (8.13.4/8.12.9) with ESMTP id t1D8QXx9073163; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 19:26:34 +1100 (EST) From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 19:26:28 +1100 In-Reply-To: <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> ("Peter \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?M\=FCnster\=22's\?\= message of "Wed, 01 Oct 2014 22:25:15 +0200") Message-ID: <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-comcen-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-comcen-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-comcen-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=0.12, required 4, AWL 0.02, BAYES_50 0.00, RDNS_NONE 0.10) X-comcen-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Peter M=FCnster writes: > Thanks. But it does not explain, why it's much faster after restarting > emacs. Please find attached 2 recent profiler reports for comparison. It's kinda puzzling. Could you `M-x debug-on-entry RET gnus-sort-threads RET' and then save the value of the `threads' variable when this is slow and when this is fast. And then either compare the values to see whether they're really the same, or post them here for inspection... --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 14:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: Glenn Morris , Eli Zaretskii , 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.142383838812581 (code B ref 18522); Fri, 13 Feb 2015 14:40:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Feb 2015 14:39:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41592 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YMHPD-0003Gl-D4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 09:39:47 -0500 Received: from smtp08.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.130]:47367 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YMHP6-0003GS-8s for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 09:39:41 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.11.41.26]) by mwinf5d16 with ME id rqfN1p00D0Zrvwq03qfNRZ; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 15:39:29 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 15:39:29 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.11.41.26 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2BE923BEA; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 15:39:22 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 15:39:22 +0100 Message-ID: <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On Fri, Feb 13 2015, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Could you `M-x debug-on-entry RET gnus-sort-threads RET' and then save > the value of the `threads' variable when this is slow and when this is > fast. > > And then either compare the values to see whether they're really the > same, or post them here for inspection... 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On Fri, Feb 13 2015, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Could you `M-x debug-on-entry RET gnus-sort-threads RET' and then save > the value of the `threads' variable when this is slow and when this is > fast. > > And then either compare the values to see whether they're really the > same, or post them here for inspection... [...] Content analysis details: (2.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.130 listed in list.dnswl.org] 2.5 URIBL_DBL_ABUSE_BOTCC Contains an abused botnet C&C URL listed in the DBL blocklist [URIs: newsguy.com] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (pmlists[at]free.fr) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain On Fri, Feb 13 2015, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Could you `M-x debug-on-entry RET gnus-sort-threads RET' and then save > the value of the `threads' variable when this is slow and when this is > fast. > > And then either compare the values to see whether they're really the > same, or post them here for inspection... Hi Lars, They are the same. Please find attached an example. -- Peter --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=gnus-sort-threads-debug.txt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Debugger entered--entering a function: * gnus-sort-threads((([85605 "Re: gnus-dired-attach: default mime-type application/octet-stream, why" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 15:11:41 +1100" "<87386vzgqq.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87mwc37mh7.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 3794 28 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85605" nil]) ([85303 "Re: Snoozing a message in gnus?" "Ted Zlatanov " "Mon, 08 Dec 2014 11:59:00 -0500" "" " <8761erw9fv.fsf@thinkpad-t440p.tsdh.org> <87bnojja3i.fsf@gmail.com> <87fvdrf9n2.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87zjbzdulx.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87mw7x6xn6.fsf@uwo.ca>" 4829 11 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85303" nil]) ([85280 "[PATCH] Accept new TLDs when validating FQDNs" "Albert Krewinkel " "Sat, 15 Nov 2014 11:53:15 +0100" "<1416048795-30803-1-git-send-email-albert+gnus@zeitkraut.de>" "" 5994 65 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85280" nil] ([85285 "Re: [PA TCH] Accept new TLDs when validating FQDNs" "Julien Danjou " "Mon, 17 Nov 2014 09:36:36 +0100" "" "<1416048795-30803-1-git-send-email-albert+gnus@zeitkraut.de>" 4231 42 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85285" nil] ([85517 "Re: [PATCH] Accept new TLDs when validating FQDNs" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 15:16:13 +1100" "<877fwajhwy.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<1416048795-30803-1-git-send-email-albert+gnus@zeitkraut.de> " 3565 21 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85517" nil]))) ([85287 "access mail spool on another server?" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Tue, 18 Nov 2014 11:24:13 +0800" "<87lhn9ur6q.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "" 4555 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85287" nil] ([85302 "Re: access mail spool on another server?" "Ted Zlatanov " "Mon, 08 Dec 2014 11:54:24 -0500" "" "<87lhn9ur6q.fsf@ericabra hamsen.net>" 5051 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85302" nil] ([85314 "Re: access mail spool on another server?" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Tue, 09 Dec 2014 10:30:02 +0800" "<87tx15a72t.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87lhn9ur6q.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> " 5005 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85314" nil]))) ([85288 "autoloads only generated on every 2nd make" "Tassilo Horn " "Thu, 20 Nov 2014 08:20:16 +0100" "<87wq6qfidr.fsf@thinkpad-t440p.tsdh.org>" "" 4487 50 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85288" nil] ([85516 "Re: autoloads only generated on every 2nd make" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 15:13:28 +1100" "<87bnlmji1j.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87wq6qfidr.fsf@thinkpad-t440p.tsdh.org>" 3545 23 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85516" nil] ([85528 "Re: autoloads only generated on every 2nd make" "Tassilo Horn " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 08:15:56 +0100" "<87twze2e s3.fsf@gnu.org>" "<87wq6qfidr.fsf@thinkpad-t440p.tsdh.org> <87bnlmji1j.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4773 52 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85528" nil] ([85534 "Re: autoloads only generated on every 2nd make" "Tassilo Horn " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 16:14:10 +0100" "<87oapl1sn1.fsf@gnu.org>" "<87wq6qfidr.fsf@thinkpad-t440p.tsdh.org> <87bnlmji1j.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87twze2es3.fsf@gnu.org>" 3429 21 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85534" nil])))) ([85289 "Prevent mails from being expired" "Stefan Nobis " "Sun, 23 Nov 2014 09:06:02 +0100" "" "" 4580 31 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85289" nil] ([85515 "Re: Prevent mails from being expired" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 15:11:34 +1100" "<87fvayji4p.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "" 4036 33 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85515" nil])) ([85290 "Some imap accounts not updating in 24.4" "Alberto Luaces < aluaces@udc.es>" "Tue, 25 Nov 2014 23:55:26 +0100" "<87bnnuao0x.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es>" "" 4169 45 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85290" nil] ([85301 "Re: Some imap accounts not updating in 24.4" "Ted Zlatanov " "Mon, 08 Dec 2014 11:53:27 -0500" "" "<87bnnuao0x.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es>" 4899 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85301" nil] ([85365 "Re: Some imap accounts not updating in 24.4" "Alberto Luaces " "Thu, 18 Dec 2014 21:24:12 +0100" "<87r3vw4sgj.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es>" "<87bnnuao0x.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> " 3683 21 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85365" nil] ([85375 "Re: Some imap accounts not updating in 24.4" "Ted Zlatanov " "Fri, 19 Dec 2014 22:07:25 -0500" "<87bnmzt3wy.fsf@lifelogs.com>" "<87bnnuao0x.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87r3vw4sgj.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es>" 4433 30 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:8 5375" nil] ([85396 "Re: Some imap accounts not updating in 24.4" "Alberto Luaces " "Mon, 22 Dec 2014 20:48:37 +0100" "<87y4pza2ju.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es>" "<87bnnuao0x.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87r3vw4sgj.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87bnmzt3wy.fsf@lifelogs.com>" 4910 58 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85396" nil] ([85714 "Re: Some imap accounts not updating in 24.4" "Ted Zlatanov " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 06:48:27 -0500" "<87sielyk1g.fsf@lifelogs.com>" "<87bnnuao0x.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87r3vw4sgj.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87bnmzt3wy.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87y4pza2ju.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es>" 4273 28 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85714" nil]) ([85731 "Re: Some imap accounts not updating in 24.4" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 14:14:49 +1100" "<87wq3xuk0m.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87bnnuao0x.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87r3vw4sgj.fsf@eps142. cdf.udc.es> <87bnmzt3wy.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87y4pza2ju.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es>" 3274 12 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85731" nil])))))) ([85291 "gmane is always closed." "Uwe Brauer " "Wed, 26 Nov 2014 12:34:10 +0100" "<87bnnu42ml.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" "" 11916 154 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85291" nil] ([85292 "Re: gmane is always closed." "Alberto Luaces " "Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:43:22 +0100" "<8761e29dd1.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es>" "<87bnnu42ml.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 3212 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85292" nil] ([85293 "Re: gmane is always closed." "Uwe Brauer " "Wed, 26 Nov 2014 19:19:11 +0100" "<87ioi1akps.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" "<87bnnu42ml.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <8761e29dd1.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es>" 5387 53 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85293" nil] ([85294 "Re: gmane is always closed." "Alberto Luaces " "Thu, 27 Nov 2014 18:33:37 +0100" "<87zjbc8s5q.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es>" "<87bnnu42ml.fsf@mat.uc m.es> <8761e29dd1.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87ioi1akps.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 3645 27 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85294" nil] ([85295 "Re: gmane is always closed." "Uwe Brauer " "Thu, 27 Nov 2014 19:03:19 +0100" "<87zjbcttaw.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" "<87bnnu42ml.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <8761e29dd1.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87ioi1akps.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87zjbc8s5q.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es>" 3463 12 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85295" nil]))))) ([85296 "with local imap: sent mail (Gcc) sometimes not saved" "Christoph Groth " "Fri, 28 Nov 2014 00:41:08 +0100" "<87d2888b57.fsf@grothesque.org>" "" 5399 58 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85296" nil] ([85297 "Couldn't store article in group" "Christoph Groth " "Fri, 28 Nov 2014 12:44:13 +0100" "<874mtjh7n6.fsf@grothesque.org>" "<87d2888b57.fsf@grothesque.org>" 4630 45 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85297" nil] ([85514 "Re: Couldn't store article in group" "Lar s Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 15:07:42 +1100" "<87lhkqjib5.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87d2888b57.fsf@grothesque.org> <874mtjh7n6.fsf@grothesque.org>" 3737 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85514" nil] ([85537 "Re: Couldn't store article in group" "Christoph Groth " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 23:13:18 +0100" "<878ugpp4w1.fsf@grothesque.org>" "<87d2888b57.fsf@grothesque.org> <874mtjh7n6.fsf@grothesque.org> <87lhkqjib5.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4741 70 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85537" nil] ([85538 "Re: Couldn't store article in group" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:50:59 +1100" "<87twzddp1o.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87d2888b57.fsf@grothesque.org> <874mtjh7n6.fsf@grothesque.org> <87lhkqjib5.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878ugpp4w1.fsf@grothesque.org>" 3942 31 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85538" nil] ([85628 "Re: Couldn't store article in group" "Alan Schmitt " "We d, 28 Jan 2015 13:56:05 +0100" "" "<87d2888b57.fsf@grothesque.org> <874mtjh7n6.fsf@grothesque.org> <87lhkqjib5.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878ugpp4w1.fsf@grothesque.org> <87twzddp1o.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4577 47 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85628" nil] ([85641 "Re: Couldn't store article in group" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 12:37:19 +1100" "<87r3uenz8w.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87d2888b57.fsf@grothesque.org> <874mtjh7n6.fsf@grothesque.org> <87lhkqjib5.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878ugpp4w1.fsf@grothesque.org> <87twzddp1o.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3447 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85641" nil]))))))) ([85299 "virtual groups based on subjects" "Uwe Brauer " "Mon, 08 Dec 2014 10:39:16 +0100" "<87k322zdiz.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" "" 11243 126 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85299" nil] ([85307 "Re: virtual groups based on subjects" "Glyn Millington " "Mon, 08 Dec 2014 20:57:09 +0000" "<87k321j1wa.fsf@nowhere.org>" "<87k322zdiz.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 3703 22 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85307" nil] ([85319 "Re: virtual groups based on subjects" "Uwe Brauer " "Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:43:04 +0100" "<8761dl6lk7.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" "<87k322zdiz.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87k321j1wa.fsf@nowhere.org>" 3645 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85319" nil] ([85323 "Re: virtual groups based on subjects" "Glyn Millington " "Tue, 09 Dec 2014 14:34:59 +0000" "<87zjaw99ik.fsf@nowhere.org>" "<87k322zdiz.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87k321j1wa.fsf@nowhere.org> <8761dl6lk7.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 4694 47 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85323" nil])))) ([85300 "Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" "Peter Davis " "Mon, 08 Dec 2014 08:20:05 -0500" "" "" 3681 21 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85300" nil] ([85305 "Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" " Peter Münster " "Mon, 08 Dec 2014 21:06:41 +0100" "<87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org>" "" 3222 13 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85305" nil] ([85308 "Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" "Peter Davis " "Mon, 08 Dec 2014 17:47:00 -0500" "" " <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org>" 4627 34 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85308" nil] ([85309 "Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" "Peter Münster " "Tue, 09 Dec 2014 00:25:59 +0100" "<87r3w93erc.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org>" " <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> " 5008 55 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85309" nil] ([85310 "Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" "Peter Davis " "Mon, 08 Dec 2014 19:15:17 -0500" "" " <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87r3w93erc.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org>" 6061 70 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85310" nil]) ([85313 "Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" "Peter Davis " "Mon, 08 Dec 2014 19:51:06 -0500" "" " <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87r3w93erc.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org>" 4105 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85313" nil] ([85317 "Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" "Peter Münster " "Tue, 09 Dec 2014 09:00:13 +0100" "<87fvcp2qya.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org>" " <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87r3w93erc.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> " 3976 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85317" nil]))) ([85311 "Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" "jorge.alfaro-murillo@yale.edu (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo)" "Mon, 08 Dec 2014 19:20:29 -0500" "<87bnndsmgi.fsf@yale.edu>" " <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> " 5197 63 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85311" nil] ([85312 "Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" "Peter Davis " "Mon, 08 Dec 2014 19:47:14 -0500" "" " <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87bnndsmgi.fsf@yale.edu>" 5535 69 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85312" nil])) ([85315 "Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" "Charles Philip Chan " "Mon, 08 Dec 2014 22:57:42 -0500" "<87lhmhlbk9.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem>" " <8 7egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> " 4670 47 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85315" nil] ([85316 "Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" "Charles Philip Chan " "Mon, 08 Dec 2014 23:04:41 -0500" "<87h9x5lb8m.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem>" " <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87lhmhlbk9.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem>" 4264 35 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85316" nil])) ([85318 "Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" "Eric S Fraga " "Tue, 9 Dec 2014 10:46:34 +0000" "<8761dl3xth.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk>" " <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> " 5978 56 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85318" nil] ([85320 "Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" "Peter Davis " "Tue, 09 Dec 2014 07:49:21 -0500" "" " <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <8761dl3xth.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk>" 5152 44 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85320" nil] ([85321 "Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" "Eric S Fraga " "Tue, 9 Dec 2014 14:10:08 +0000" "<87ppbsgbi7.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" " <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <8761dl3xth.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> " 6403 69 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85321" nil] ([85322 "Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" "Peter Davis " "Tue, 09 Dec 2014 09:34:10 -0500" "" " <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <8761dl3xth.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87ppbsgbi7.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 9179 158 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85322" nil] ... ...))))))) ([85304 "merging monthly post-out directories." "Sharon Kimble " "Mon, 08 Dec 2014 18:47:26 +0000" "<8761dmasht.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "" 4441 41 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85304" nil] ([85306 "Re: merging monthly post-out directories." "Xavier Maillard " "Mon, 08 Dec 2014 21:56:59 +0100" "" "<8761dmasht.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 4035 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85306" nil]) ([85327 "Re: merging monthly post-out directories." "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Tue, 09 Dec 2014 19:39:54 +0100" "<87vblkacqt.fsf@koldfront.dk>" "<8761dmasht.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 3771 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85327" nil] ([85332 "Re: merging monthly post-out directories." "Xavier Maillard " "Tue, 09 Dec 2014 22:30:29 +0100" "" "<8761dmasht.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87vblkacqt.fsf@koldfront.dk>" 4223 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85332" nil]) ([85338 "Re: merging monthly post-out directories." "Sharon Kimble " "Wed, 10 Dec 2014 02:36:35 +0000" "<87388o2pp0.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "<8761dmasht.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87vblkacqt.fsf@koldfront.dk>" 5046 49 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85338" nil] ([85339 "Re: merging monthly post-out directories." "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Wed, 10 Dec 2014 11:25:10 +0100" "<87vblj94zd.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<8761dmasht.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87vblkacqt.fsf@koldfront.dk> <87388o2pp0.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 4189 26 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85339" nil] ([85340 "Re: merging monthly post-out directories." "Sharon Kimble " "Wed, 10 Dec 2014 14:20:42 +0000" "<87ppbrwpqd.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "<8761dmasht.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87vblkacqt.fsf@koldfront. dk> <87388o2pp0.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87vblj94zd.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 5276 58 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85340" nil] ([85341 "Re: merging monthly post-out directories." "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Wed, 10 Dec 2014 15:32:55 +0100" "<87ppbr8tig.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<8761dmasht.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87vblkacqt.fsf@koldfront.dk> <87388o2pp0.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87vblj94zd.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87ppbrwpqd.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 4505 36 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85341" nil] ([85342 "Re: merging monthly post-out directories." "Sharon Kimble " "Thu, 11 Dec 2014 02:53:03 +0000" "<87d27qq4mo.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "<8761dmasht.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87vblkacqt.fsf@koldfront.dk> <87388o2pp0.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87vblj94zd.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87ppbrwpqd.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87ppbr8tig.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 5773 74 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85342" nil] ... ...))) ([85428 "Re: merging monthly post-out directories." "Sharon Kimble " "Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:04:25 +0000" "<87d26u5snq.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "<8761dmasht.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87vblkacqt.fsf@koldfront.dk> <87388o2pp0.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87vblj94zd.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 5435 37 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85428" nil]))))) ([85344 "restore the setup file?" "Sharon Kimble " "Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:55:16 +0000" "<87r3w6vzp7.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "" 5645 42 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85344" nil] ([85345 "Re: restore the setup file?" "jorge.alfaro-murillo@yale.edu (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo)" "Thu, 11 Dec 2014 13:08:07 -0500" "<87oaraoy9k.fsf@yale.edu>" "<87r3w6vzp7.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 3529 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85345" nil] ([85346 "Re: restore the setup file?" "Sharon Kimble " "Thu, 11 Dec 2014 19:05:11 +0000" "<87fvcmuhw8.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "<87r3w6vzp7.fsf@skimble.p lus.com> <87oaraoy9k.fsf@yale.edu>" 6259 53 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85346" nil]))) ([85347 "A little coaching on massive downloading or messages" "Harry Putnam " "Thu, 11 Dec 2014 14:10:43 -0500" "<87fvcmovd8.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "" 3407 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85347" nil]) ([85348 "shr.el: add linebreaks to mouse-over tooltips (title attributes)" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Fri, 12 Dec 2014 22:29:21 +0100" "<877fxwr1zi.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "" 5604 38 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179964 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85348" nil] ([85357 "Re: shr.el: add linebreaks to mouse-over tooltips (title attributes)" "Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen " "Sat, 13 Dec 2014 16:24:31 +0100" "" "<877fxwr1zi.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 5762 23 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180011 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85357" nil])) ([85353 "Does nnir support nnrss?" "Frank " "Sat, 13 Dec 2014 10:30:48 +0800" "<87vblguvqf.fsf@gmail.com>" "" 3497 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85353" nil] ([85513 "Re: Does nnir support nnrss?" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 14:41:08 +1100" "<87ppa2jjjf.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87vblguvqf.fsf@gmail.com>" 3027 12 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85513" nil])) ([85363 "anything newer than emacs-w3m for rendering html" "Harry Putnam " "Thu, 18 Dec 2014 16:22:56 -0500" "<87k31or6tr.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "" 4316 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85363" nil] ([85364 "Re: anything newer than emacs-w3m for rendering html" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Thu, 18 Dec 2014 19:31:17 +0100" "<87sigchksq.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87k31or6tr.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 4625 43 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85364" nil] ([85371 "Re: anything newer than emacs-w3m for rendering html" "Malcolm Purvis " "Fri, 19 Dec 2014 14:10:22 +1100" "" "<87k31or6tr.fsf@reader.local.lan> <87sigchksq.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 3589 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85371" nil] ([85372 "Re: anything newer than emacs-w3m for rendering html" "Harry Putnam " "Fri, 19 Dec 2014 12:22:10 -0500" "<87388b5zct.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87k31or6tr.fsf@reader.local.lan> <87sigchksq.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> " 3564 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85372" nil] ([85379 "Re: anything newer than emacs-w3m for rendering html" "Steinar Bang " "Sat, 20 Dec 2014 10:06:13 +0100" "<878ui2k7wa.fsf@dod.no>" "<87k31or6tr.fsf@reader.local.lan> <87sigchksq.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87388b5zct.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 3429 9 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85379" nil]) ([85390 "Re: anything newer than emacs-w3m for rendering html" "Malcolm Purvis " " Sun, 21 Dec 2014 22:28:47 +1100" "" "<87k31or6tr.fsf@reader.local.lan> <87sigchksq.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87388b5zct.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 4632 19 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85390" nil])))) ([85366 "Re: anything newer than emacs-w3m for rendering html" "Filipp Gunbin " "Fri, 19 Dec 2014 01:07:41 +0300" "" "<87k31or6tr.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 4095 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85366" nil] ([85367 "Re: anything newer than emacs-w3m for rendering html" "Harry Putnam " "Thu, 18 Dec 2014 21:11:12 -0500" "<87h9wsmlrz.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87k31or6tr.fsf@reader.local.lan> " 4771 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85367" nil] ([85512 "Re: anything newer than emacs-w3m for rendering html" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 14:40:33 +1100" "<87twzejjke.fsf@buildi ng.gnus.org>" "<87k31or6tr.fsf@reader.local.lan> <87h9wsmlrz.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 3304 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85512" nil])))) ([85374 "movemail failing .. apparently permission issue" "Harry Putnam " "Fri, 19 Dec 2014 19:36:05 -0500" "<87bnmzduoa.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "" 4308 39 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85374" nil] ([85378 "Re: movemail failing .. apparently permission issue" "Andreas Schwab " "Sat, 20 Dec 2014 09:55:08 +0100" "" "<87bnmzduoa.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 4876 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85378" nil] ([85381 "Re: movemail failing .. apparently permission issue" "Harry Putnam " "Sat, 20 Dec 2014 07:59:33 -0500" "<87tx0qo4sq.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87bnmzduoa.fsf@reader.local.lan> " 3517 23 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85381" nil])) ([85393 "Re: movemail fa iling .. apparently permission issue" "Harry Putnam " "Sun, 21 Dec 2014 16:05:20 -0500" "<874msovhm7.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87bnmzduoa.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 5024 61 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85393" nil])) ([85383 "Track down a failure involving shr" "Harry Putnam " "Sat, 20 Dec 2014 16:16:50 -0500" "<87fvcaf2d9.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "" 5542 70 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85383" nil] ([85384 "Re: Track down a failure involving shr" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Sat, 20 Dec 2014 22:57:43 +0100" "<87h9wqvvag.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87fvcaf2d9.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 3937 19 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85384" nil]) ([85385 "Re: Track down a failure involving shr" "Steinar Bang " "Sat, 20 Dec 2014 23:45:24 +0100" "<86tx0qkkjf.fsf@dod.no>" "<87fvcaf2d9.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 3291 10 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85385" nil] ([85386 "Re: Track down a failure involving shr" " Clemens Schüller " "Sat, 20 Dec 2014 23:52:46 +0100" "<87oaqyc4sh.fsf@cougar.home.aneadesign.com>" "<87fvcaf2d9.fsf@reader.local.lan> <86tx0qkkjf.fsf@dod.no>" 4764 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85386" nil] ([85388 "Re: Track down a failure involving shr" "Harry Putnam " "Sat, 20 Dec 2014 18:19:55 -0500" "<873889gb8k.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87fvcaf2d9.fsf@reader.local.lan> <86tx0qkkjf.fsf@dod.no> <87oaqyc4sh.fsf@cougar.home.aneadesign.com>" 5424 67 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85388" nil] ([85389 "Re: Track down a failure involving shr" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Sun, 21 Dec 2014 07:35:05 +0100" "<8761d5qzmu.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87fvcaf2d9.fsf@reader.local.lan> <86tx0qkkjf.fsf@dod.no> <87oaqyc4sh.fsf@cougar.home.aneadesign.com> <873889gb8k.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 4133 23 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85389" nil]) ([85391 "Re: Track down a failure involving shr" "Clemens Schüller " "Sun, 21 Dec 2014 13:27:59 +0100" "<873889p4q8.fsf@cougar.home.aneadesign.com>" "<87fvcaf2d9.fsf@reader.local.lan> <86tx0qkkjf.fsf@dod.no> <87oaqyc4sh.fsf@cougar.home.aneadesign.com> <873889gb8k.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 6893 65 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85391" nil] ([85392 "Re: Track down a failure involving shr" "Harry Putnam " "Sun, 21 Dec 2014 06:51:50 -0500" "<877fxlxlt5.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87fvcaf2d9.fsf@reader.local.lan> <86tx0qkkjf.fsf@dod.no> <87oaqyc4sh.fsf@cougar.home.aneadesign.com> <873889gb8k.fsf@reader.local.lan> <873889p4q8.fsf@cougar.home.aneadesign.com>" 4303 30 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85392" nil])))) ([85387 "Re: Track down a failure involving shr" "Harry Putnam " "Sat, 20 Dec 2014 17:54:18 -0500" "<877fxmexut.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87fvcaf2d9.fsf@reader.local.lan> <86tx0qkkjf.fsf@dod.no>" 4170 39 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85387" nil]))) ([85394 " large number of References: breaks gnus when tramp is in use" "Wes Hardaker " "Mon, 22 Dec 2014 06:35:42 -0800" "<0loaqvlpkx.fsf@wjh.hardakers.net>" "" 4236 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85394" nil] ([85511 "Re: large number of References: breaks gnus when tramp is in use" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 14:31:17 +1100" "<87y4oqjjzu.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<0loaqvlpkx.fsf@wjh.hardakers.net>" 3603 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85511" nil])) ([85395 "using nnimap-split-fancy to split mail on server?" "Stephen Leake " "Mon, 22 Dec 2014 10:48:55 -0600" "<85h9wnocjs.fsf@stephe-leake.org>" "" 4616 52 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85395" nil] ([85510 "Re: using nnimap-split-fancy to split mail on server?" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 14:29:48 +1100" "<87386ykymr.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<85h9wnocjs.fsf@stephe-leake.org>" 3800 35 "news.gmane.org gmane.e macs.gnus.general:85510" nil] ([85531 "Re: using nnimap-split-fancy to split mail on server?" "Stephen Leake " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 04:04:29 -0600" "<85egqhdfiq.fsf@stephe-leake.org>" "<85h9wnocjs.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <87386ykymr.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 5471 64 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85531" nil] ([85540 "Re: using nnimap-split-fancy to split mail on server?" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:55:38 +1100" "<87ioftdotx.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<85h9wnocjs.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <87386ykymr.fsf@building.gnus.org> <85egqhdfiq.fsf@stephe-leake.org>" 3226 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85540" nil] ([85587 "Re: using nnimap-split-fancy to split mail on server?" "Stephen Leake " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 03:25:52 -0600" "<854mrcbmn3.fsf@stephe-leake.org>" "<85h9wnocjs.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <87386ykymr.fsf@building.gnus.org> <85egqhdfiq.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <87ioftdotx.fsf@building.gn us.org>" 4069 22 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85587" nil] ([85588 "Re: using nnimap-split-fancy to split mail on server?" "Stephen Leake " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 04:16:42 -0600" "<85386wedf9.fsf@stephe-leake.org>" "<85h9wnocjs.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <87386ykymr.fsf@building.gnus.org> <85egqhdfiq.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <87ioftdotx.fsf@building.gnus.org> <854mrcbmn3.fsf@stephe-leake.org>" 4321 28 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85588" nil])))))) ([85397 "How to search inside emails?" "Sharon Kimble " "Sun, 28 Dec 2014 19:52:07 +0000" "<87d273r1qw.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "" 4363 39 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85397" nil] ([85398 "Re: How to search inside emails?" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Sun, 28 Dec 2014 21:42:20 +0100" "<87mw678q1f.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87d273r1qw.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 4362 32 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85398" nil] ([85420 "Re: How to search inside em ails?" "Sharon Kimble " "Sat, 03 Jan 2015 15:11:25 +0000" "<871tnbvqzm.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "<87d273r1qw.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87mw678q1f.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 5392 70 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85420" nil] ([85421 "Re: How to search inside emails?" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Sat, 03 Jan 2015 20:19:39 +0100" "<87h9w7hdtg.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87d273r1qw.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87mw678q1f.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <871tnbvqzm.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 4300 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85421" nil])) ([85422 "Re: How to search inside emails?" "Sharon Kimble " "Sat, 03 Jan 2015 19:30:13 +0000" "<877fx37jcq.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "<87d273r1qw.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87mw678q1f.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 4743 47 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85422" nil])) ([85400 "Re: How to search inside emails?" "Steinar Bang " "Mon, 29 Dec 2014 08:32:31 +0100" "<86387yhpww.fsf@dod. no>" "<87d273r1qw.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 3461 13 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85400" nil])) ([85399 "Need help on setting multiple gmail imap account" "Eric " "Mon, 29 Dec 2014 01:27:06 +0000 (UTC)" "" "" 5900 34 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85399" nil] ([85401 "Re: Need help on setting multiple gmail imap account" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Mon, 29 Dec 2014 10:11:10 +0100" "<874mseu8gh.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "" 4382 34 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85401" nil] ([85713 "Re: Need help on setting multiple gmail imap account" "Ted Zlatanov " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 06:46:52 -0500" "<87wq3xyk43.fsf@lifelogs.com>" " <874mseu8gh.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 4078 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85713" nil] ([85729 "Re: Need help on setting multiple gmail imap account" "Lars Ingeb rigtsen " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 14:13:40 +1100" "<871tm5vymz.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <874mseu8gh.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87wq3xyk43.fsf@lifelogs.com>" 3974 35 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85729" nil] ([85750 "Re: Need help on setting multiple gmail imap account" "Ted Zlatanov " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 05:52:28 -0500" "<87oap8wryr.fsf@lifelogs.com>" " <874mseu8gh.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87wq3xyk43.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871tm5vymz.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3652 13 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85750" nil])) ([85752 "Re: Need help on setting multiple gmail imap account" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 16:51:00 +0100" "<8761bg5pcr.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" " <874mseu8gh.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87wq3xyk43.fsf@lifelogs.com>" 4099 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85752" nil])))) ([85402 "choosing iso-8859-1 over utf-8 for some newsgroups" "Julien Cubizolles " "Mon, 29 Dec 2014 17:21:47 +0100" "<87ppb2a0kk.fsf@free.fr>" "" 3973 28 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85402" nil] ([85403 "Re: choosing iso-8859-1 over utf-8 for some newsgroups" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Mon, 29 Dec 2014 18:35:35 +0100" "<87oaqms6jc.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87ppb2a0kk.fsf@free.fr>" 4162 28 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85403" nil] ([85404 "Re: choosing iso-8859-1 over utf-8 for some newsgroups" "Julien Cubizolles " "Tue, 30 Dec 2014 00:11:12 +0100" "<87sifyvypb.fsf@free.fr>" "<87ppb2a0kk.fsf@free.fr> <87oaqms6jc.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 4570 41 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85404" nil] ([85411 "Re: choosing iso-8859-1 over utf-8 for some newsgroups" "Malcolm Purvis " "Thu, 01 Jan 2015 17:20:46 +1100" "" "<87ppb2a0kk.fsf@free.fr> <87oaqms6jc.fsf@topper.kol dfront.dk> <87sifyvypb.fsf@free.fr>" 4063 30 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85411" nil])))) ([85405 "Trouble viewing PDF attachments (with patches)" "peder@news.klingenberg.no (Peder O. Klingenberg)" "Tue, 30 Dec 2014 12:35:40 +0100" "" "" 9027 174 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85405" nil] ([85406 "Re: Trouble viewing PDF attachments (with patches)" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Wed, 31 Dec 2014 09:20:22 +0800" "<87iogszkbt.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "" 5363 51 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85406" nil] ([85407 "Re: Trouble viewing PDF attachments (with patches)" "peder@news.klingenberg.no (Peder O. Klingenberg)" "Wed, 31 Dec 2014 10:16:33 +0100" "" " <87iogszkbt.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 3807 22 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85407" nil] ([85408 "Re: Trouble viewing PDF attachments (with patches)" "E ric Abrahamsen " "Wed, 31 Dec 2014 18:29:53 +0800" "<87a924xgbi.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" " <87iogszkbt.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> " 3941 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85408" nil] ([85409 "Re: Trouble viewing PDF attachments (with patches)" "peder@news.klingenberg.no (Peder O. Klingenberg)" "Wed, 31 Dec 2014 15:04:18 +0100" "" " <87iogszkbt.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a924xgbi.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 3836 23 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85409" nil])))) ([85509 "Re: Trouble viewing PDF attachments (with patches)" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 14:28:02 +1100" "<877fwakypp.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "" 3759 23 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85509" nil])) ([85412 "fancy splitting interactively" "Uwe Brauer " "Sat, 03 Jan 2015 11:22:51 +0100" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" "" 13299 147 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85412" nil] ([85413 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Eric S Fraga " "Sat, 3 Jan 2015 10:57:48 +0000" "<87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 4955 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85413" nil] ([85415 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Sat, 03 Jan 2015 21:53:28 +0800" "<871tncvulj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 3676 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85415" nil] ([85418 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Uwe Brauer " "Sat, 03 Jan 2015 18:43:06 +0100" "<877fx37ob9.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tncvulj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 12808 160 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85418" nil] ([85425 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Eric Ab rahamsen " "Sun, 04 Jan 2015 11:12:54 +0800" "<87k313utl5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tncvulj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fx37ob9.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 5219 59 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85425" nil] ([85429 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Eric S Fraga " "Mon, 5 Jan 2015 12:31:53 +0000" "<874ms54ddy.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tncvulj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fx37ob9.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87k313utl5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 5706 30 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85429" nil] ([85430 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Mon, 05 Jan 2015 22:34:15 +0800" "<87mw5x70uw.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tncvulj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fx37ob9.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87k313utl5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874ms54ddy.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 4679 35 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85430" nil] ...)))))) ([85414 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Glyn Millington " "Sat, 03 Jan 2015 10:39:10 +0000" "<87k314up0x.fsf@nowhere.org>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 3926 34 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85414" nil]) ([85416 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Sat, 03 Jan 2015 15:48:24 +0100" "<87tx07j4xz.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 5314 58 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85416" nil] ([85417 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Uwe Brauer " "Sat, 03 Jan 2015 18:38:24 +0100" "<87bnmf7oj3.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87tx07j4xz.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 13256 137 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85417" nil] ([85419 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Sat, 03 Jan 2015 18:51:01 +0100" "<87lhljhhx6.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@m at.ucm.es> <87tx07j4xz.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87bnmf7oj3.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 3913 19 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85419" nil] ([85423 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Uwe Brauer " "Sat, 03 Jan 2015 23:49:49 +0100" "<87mw5zqy2a.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87tx07j4xz.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87bnmf7oj3.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhljhhx6.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 12215 142 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85423" nil]) ([85427 "[bug] (was: fancy splitting interactively)" "Uwe Brauer " "Sun, 04 Jan 2015 15:56:58 +0100" "<878uhiiog5.fsf_-_@mat.ucm.es>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87tx07j4xz.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87bnmf7oj3.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhljhhx6.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 15048 157 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85427" nil] ([85508 "Re: [bug]" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 14:15:22 +1100" "<87iofukzat.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87tx07j4xz.fsf@topper. koldfront.dk> <87bnmf7oj3.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhljhhx6.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <878uhiiog5.fsf_-_@mat.ucm.es>" 3569 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85508" nil])))))) ([85424 "IMAP time out" "Kete Foy " "Sat, 03 Jan 2015 20:24:01 -0500" "<54A89631.3090900@ninthfloor.org>" "" 2878 12 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85424" nil] ([85426 "Re: IMAP time out" "Steinar Bang " "Sun, 04 Jan 2015 09:23:49 +0100" "" "<54A89631.3090900@ninthfloor.org>" 3646 22 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85426" nil])) ([85440 "Performance problem of imap move" "mremond@process-one.net (Mickaël Rémond)" "Tue, 06 Jan 2015 20:06:47 +0100" "" "" 5253 39 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85440" nil] ([85496 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "mremond@process-one.net (Mickaël Rémond)" "Wed, 21 Jan 2015 15:11:44 +0100" "" "" 4610 26 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85496" nil] ([85506 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Sun, 25 Jan 2015 15:57:23 +1100" "<87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " " 3767 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85506" nil] ([85507 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 13:52:46 +1100" "<87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3130 13 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85507" nil] ([85532 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Tassilo Horn " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 13:11:24 +0100" "<87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3789 27 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:855 32" nil] ([85535 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Steinar Bang " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 17:55:25 +0100" "" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org>" 3470 10 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85535" nil]) ([85539 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:54:15 +1100" "<87mw55dow8.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org>" 3967 27 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85539" nil] ([85579 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Tassilo Horn " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 08:23:42 +0100" "<87mw54ptz5.fsf@gnu.org>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul 0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw55dow8.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3867 28 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85579" nil] ... ...)) ([85556 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:46:11 +0800" "<87oapkrim4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org>" 6162 43 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85556" nil] ([85559 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 15:48:00 +1100" "<874mrcbzi7.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org> <87oapkrim4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 3343 13 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85559" nil] ...))))))) ([85444 "saving \"sent\" to just one folder?" "Sharon Kimble " "Wed, 07 Jan 2015 13:26:44 +0000" "<87lhleyb57.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "" 4906 55 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85444" nil] ([85446 "Re: saving \"sent\" to just one folder?" "Eric S Fraga " "Wed, 7 Jan 2015 15:02:27 +0000" "<874ms2y6po.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<87lhleyb57.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 5290 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85446" nil])) ([85448 "Sorting threaded articles on top of summary" "Ivan Kanis " "Thu, 08 Jan 2015 09:11:36 +0100" "<87a91tpu87.fsf@kanis.fr>" "" 5871 41 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85448" nil] ([85451 "Re: Sorting threaded articles on top of summary" "Eric S Fraga " "Thu, 8 Jan 2015 16:20:41 +0000" "<87wq4xfdly.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<87a91tpu87.fsf@kanis.fr>" 5289 21 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85451" nil])) ([85449 "local mailing list? I think so, but how?" "Sharon Kimble " "Thu, 08 Jan 2015 15:22:38 +0000" "<871tn547r5.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "" 5173 56 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85449" nil] ([85452 "Re: local mailing list? I think so, but how?" "Eric S Fraga " "Thu, 8 Jan 2015 16:26:27 +0000" "<87siflfdcc.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<871tn547r5.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 5009 16 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85452" nil])) ([85450 "Gnus attempting to move mail from /var/spool/mail" "Harry Putnam " "Thu, 08 Jan 2015 10:42:57 -0500" "<87wq4x9t32.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "" 8202 124 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85450" nil] ([85453 "Re: Gnus attempting to move mail from /var/spool/mail" "Dan Christensen " "Thu, 08 Jan 2015 13:10:33 -0500" "<878uhdqh2e.fsf@uwo.ca>" "<87wq4x9t32.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 3355 13 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85453" nil] ([85456 "Re: Gnus attempting to move mail from /var/spool/mail" "Harry Putnam " "Thu, 08 Jan 2015 21:35:14 -0 500" "<874ms0r89p.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87wq4x9t32.fsf@reader.local.lan> <878uhdqh2e.fsf@uwo.ca>" 3819 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85456" nil] ([85460 "Re: Gnus attempting to move mail from /var/spool/mail" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Fri, 09 Jan 2015 20:19:47 +0100" "<87ppanvk18.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87wq4x9t32.fsf@reader.local.lan> <878uhdqh2e.fsf@uwo.ca> <874ms0r89p.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 4360 30 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85460" nil] ([85462 "Re: Gnus attempting to move mail from /var/spool/mail" "Harry Putnam " "Sun, 11 Jan 2015 09:42:42 -0500" "<871tn1pee5.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87wq4x9t32.fsf@reader.local.lan> <878uhdqh2e.fsf@uwo.ca> <874ms0r89p.fsf@reader.local.lan> <87ppanvk18.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 3973 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85462" nil] ([85464 "Re: Gnus attempting to move mail from /var/spool/mail" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Sun, 11 Jan 2015 15:48:19 +0100" "<87vbkdnzk c.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87wq4x9t32.fsf@reader.local.lan> <878uhdqh2e.fsf@uwo.ca> <874ms0r89p.fsf@reader.local.lan> <87ppanvk18.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <871tn1pee5.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 3895 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85464" nil]))))) ([85454 "Re: Gnus attempting to move mail from /var/spool/mail" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Thu, 08 Jan 2015 20:38:48 +0100" "<87mw5t3vw7.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87wq4x9t32.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 3799 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85454" nil] ([85455 "Re: Gnus attempting to move mail from /var/spool/mail" "Harry Putnam " "Thu, 08 Jan 2015 21:22:38 -0500" "<87d26oae1d.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87wq4x9t32.fsf@reader.local.lan> <87mw5t3vw7.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 3440 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85455" nil] ([85459 "Re: Gnus attempting to move mail from /var/spool/mail" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Fri, 09 Jan 2015 20:11:15 +0100" "<871tn3wyzw.fsf@topper.koldfr ont.dk>" "<87wq4x9t32.fsf@reader.local.lan> <87mw5t3vw7.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87d26oae1d.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 4099 27 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85459" nil] ([85463 "Re: Gnus attempting to move mail from /var/spool/mail" "Harry Putnam " "Sun, 11 Jan 2015 09:43:51 -0500" "<87wq4tnzrs.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87wq4x9t32.fsf@reader.local.lan> <87mw5t3vw7.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87d26oae1d.fsf@reader.local.lan> <871tn3wyzw.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 3782 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85463" nil]))))) ([85465 "[OT ssh -Y] Attempting to start emacsclient .. unusual error?" "Harry Putnam " "Sun, 11 Jan 2015 09:55:40 -0500" "<87sifhnz83.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "" 3810 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85465" nil] ([85466 "Re: [OT ssh -Y] Attempting to start emacsclient .. unusual error?" "Andreas Schwab " "Sun, 11 Jan 2015 17:12:41 +0100" "<87387hthxi.fsf@igel.home>" "<87sifhnz83.fsf@r eader.local.lan>" 3773 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85466" nil] ([85470 "Re: [OT ssh -Y] Attempting to start emacsclient .. unusual error?" "Harry Putnam " "Sun, 11 Jan 2015 16:31:02 -0500" "<87lhl9m2cp.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87sifhnz83.fsf@reader.local.lan> <87387hthxi.fsf@igel.home>" 3514 16 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85470" nil]) ([85471 "Re: [OT ssh -Y] Attempting to start emacsclient .. unusual error?" "Harry Putnam " "Sun, 11 Jan 2015 16:37:44 -0500" "<87h9vxm21j.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87sifhnz83.fsf@reader.local.lan> <87387hthxi.fsf@igel.home>" 5328 59 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85471" nil])) ([85472 "Re: [OT ssh -Y] Attempting to start emacsclient .. unusual error?" "Mike Kupfer " "Sun, 11 Jan 2015 19:39:28 -0800" "<26348.1421033968@allegro.localdomain>" "<87sifhnz83.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 3885 32 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85472" nil] ([85481 "Re: [OT ssh - Y] Attempting to start emacsclient .. unusual error?" "Harry Putnam " "Mon, 12 Jan 2015 13:39:43 -0500" "<87k30r93k9.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87sifhnz83.fsf@reader.local.lan> <26348.1421033968@allegro.localdomain>" 4210 31 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85481" nil]))) ([85467 "Article mode for raw email message?" "Peter Davis " "Sun, 11 Jan 2015 14:10:36 -0500" "" "" 3512 19 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85467" nil] ([85468 "Re: Article mode for raw email message?" "david.goldberg6@verizon.net (Dave Goldberg)" "Sun, 11 Jan 2015 14:34:27 -0500" "<84mw5paz7g.fsf@davestoy.home>" "" 3977 19 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85468" nil] ([85474 "Re: Article mode for raw email message?" "Peter Davis " "Mon, 12 Jan 2015 07:20:19 -0500" "" " <84mw5paz7g.fsf@davestoy.ho me>" 4487 27 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85474" nil])) ([85469 "Re: Article mode for raw email message?" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Sun, 11 Jan 2015 20:51:33 +0100" "<87iogdnliy.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "" 4395 40 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85469" nil] ([85475 "Re: Article mode for raw email message?" "Peter Davis " "Mon, 12 Jan 2015 07:22:34 -0500" "" " <87iogdnliy.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 4581 39 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85475" nil] ([85476 "Re: Article mode for raw email message?" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Mon, 12 Jan 2015 15:23:26 +0100" "<87k30s3wo1.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" " <87iogdnliy.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> " 4030 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85476" nil] ([85477 "Re: Article mode for raw email message? " "Peter Davis " "Mon, 12 Jan 2015 09:34:12 -0500" "" " <87iogdnliy.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87k30s3wo1.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 4838 34 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85477" nil] ([85478 "Re: Article mode for raw email message?" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Mon, 12 Jan 2015 18:43:46 +0100" "<87twzv3ne5.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" " <87iogdnliy.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87k30s3wo1.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> " 4229 23 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85478" nil]))))) ([85482 "Re: Article mode for raw email message?" "Peter Davis " "Tue, 13 Jan 2015 10:22:28 -0500" "<20150113152227.GB33607@pdavismbp15.iscinternal.com>" "" 4625 35 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.g eneral:85482" nil])) ([85486 "importing PGP keys" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Tue, 20 Jan 2015 18:45:57 +0800" "<87d269ohlm.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "" 3447 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85486" nil] ([85488 "Re: importing PGP keys" "Greg Troxel " "Tue, 20 Jan 2015 05:49:41 -0500" "" "<87d269ohlm.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 4014 41 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85488" nil] ([85491 "Re: importing PGP keys" "Russ Allbery " "Tue, 20 Jan 2015 22:29:10 -0800" "<87mw5csl3d.fsf@hope.eyrie.org>" "<87d269ohlm.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> " 3536 21 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85491" nil] ([85492 "Re: importing PGP keys" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Wed, 21 Jan 2015 15:03:10 +0800" "<877fwghaz5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87d269ohlm.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw5csl3d.fsf@hope.eyrie.org>" 4386 32 "ne ws.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85492" nil] ([85493 "Re: importing PGP keys" "Jens Lechtenboerger " "Wed, 21 Jan 2015 14:03:51 +0100" "<861tmo1e14.fsf@informationelle-selbstbestimmung-im-internet.de>" "<87d269ohlm.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw5csl3d.fsf@hope.eyrie.org> <877fwghaz5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 4628 36 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85493" nil] ([85494 "Re: importing PGP keys" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Wed, 21 Jan 2015 21:36:54 +0800" "<87lhkwfe6h.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87d269ohlm.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw5csl3d.fsf@hope.eyrie.org> <877fwghaz5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <861tmo1e14.fsf@informationelle-selbstbestimmung-im-internet.de>" 4905 47 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85494" nil])))))) ([85487 "problems in sending out emails" "Sharon Kimble " "Tue, 20 Jan 2015 13:12:26 +0000" "<87egqpy4sl.fsf @skimble.plus.com>" "" 5448 71 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85487" nil] ([85489 "Re: problems in sending out emails" "Steinar Bang " "Tue, 20 Jan 2015 18:21:14 +0100" "" "<87egqpy4sl.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 3449 13 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85489" nil]) ([85490 "Re: problems in sending out emails" "" "Tue, 20 Jan 2015 18:03:48 +0000" "<87ppa9qqgr.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<87egqpy4sl.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 4596 12 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85490" nil] ([85502 "Re: problems in sending out emails" "Sharon Kimble " "Thu, 22 Jan 2015 18:45:02 +0000" "<87egqmac41.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "<87egqpy4sl.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87ppa9qqgr.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 4539 41 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85502" nil]))) ([85495 "nnimap: article list is not correct." "Uwe Brauer " "Wed, 21 Jan 2015 15:07:47 +0100" "<87wq4gz0p8.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" "" 12311 146 "news.gmane.o rg gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85495" nil] ([85497 "Re: nnimap: article list is not correct." "" "Wed, 21 Jan 2015 15:41:50 +0000" "<87bnlskuo1.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<87wq4gz0p8.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 4722 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85497" nil] ([85498 "Re: nnimap: article list is not correct." "Uwe Brauer " "Wed, 21 Jan 2015 18:39:53 +0100" "<87oapsc9sm.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" "<87wq4gz0p8.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87bnlskuo1.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 12203 142 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85498" nil] ([85500 "Re: nnimap: article list is not correct." "Steinar Bang " "Wed, 21 Jan 2015 22:00:28 +0100" "" "<87wq4gz0p8.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87bnlskuo1.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87oapsc9sm.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 4226 36 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85500" nil] ([85501 "Re: nnimap: article list is not correct." "Uwe Brauer " "Wed, 21 Jan 2015 23:22:37 +0100" "<87k30fhiz6.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" "<87wq4gz0p8.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87bn lskuo1.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87oapsc9sm.fsf@mat.ucm.es> " 12671 150 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85501" nil]))))) ([85499 "gmail: can't visited the starred group" "Uwe Brauer " "Wed, 21 Jan 2015 18:41:46 +0100" "<87k30gc9ph.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" "" 13263 160 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85499" nil] ([85505 "Re: gmail: can't visited the starred group" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Sun, 25 Jan 2015 14:52:32 +1100" "<87wq4b5xfj.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87k30gc9ph.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 3191 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85505" nil] ([85591 "Re: gmail: can't visited the starred group" "Uwe Brauer " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 15:45:18 +0100" "<87egqg470h.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" "<87k30gc9ph.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87wq4b5xfj.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 12713 156 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85591" nil]))) ([85503 "Outdated manual on www.gnus.org" "halimsrama@gmail.com (Naim, Halim.)" "Thu, 22 Jan 2015 18:38:20 -0430" "<87y4ouza57.fsf@gmail.com>" "" 3911 13 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85503" nil] ([85504 "Re: Outdated manual on www.gnus.org" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Sun, 25 Jan 2015 14:44:24 +1100" "<87386z7cdj.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87y4ouza57.fsf@gmail.com>" 3707 12 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85504" nil])) ([85592 "How do I make a new message html washer?" "joakim@verona.se" "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:02:07 +0100" "" "" 3232 10 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85592" nil] ([85593 "Re: How do I make a new message html washer?" "Andreas Schwab " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 22:20:48 +0100" "<87386v9az3.fsf@igel.home>" "" 4083 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85593" nil] ([85596 "Re: How do I make a new message html washer?" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 11:48:31 +1100" "<87iofr20io.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87386v9az3.fsf@igel.home>" 3510 19 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85596" nil]))) ([85602 "git am/send-email support?" "Daiki Ueno " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 12:55:08 +0900" "" "" 2740 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85602" nil] ([85648 "Re: git am/send-email support?" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 13:23:51 +1100" "<87vbjqmiiw.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "" 3169 13 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85648" nil] ([85656 "Re: git am/send-email support?" "Daiki Ueno " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 18:05:57 +0900" "" " <87vbjqmiiw.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3356 23 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85656" nil] ([85666 "Re: git am/send-email support?" "David Engster " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 20:53:51 +0100" "<87386t9xdc.fsf@randomsample.de>" " <87vbjqmiiw.fsf@building .gnus.org> " 4759 55 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85666" nil] ([85689 "Re: git am/send-email support?" "Daiki Ueno " "Mon, 02 Feb 2015 17:11:29 +0900" "<877fw0lolq.fsf-ueno@gnu.org>" " <87vbjqmiiw.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87386t9xdc.fsf@randomsample.de>" 3538 34 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85689" nil])) ([85672 "Re: git am/send-email support?" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Fri, 30 Jan 2015 10:37:48 +1100" "<87r3udyx83.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87vbjqmiiw.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3397 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85672" nil])))) ([85631 "address and name from posting styles are ignored" "Vitalie Spinu " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 12:24:43 +0100" "<87twzbrvus.fsf@gmail.com>" "" 3387 23 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85631" nil] ([85634 "Re: address and name fr om posting styles are ignored" "Robert Pluim " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 18:19:47 +0100" "<82d25yoma4.fsf@gmail.com>" "<87twzbrvus.fsf@gmail.com>" 4012 34 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85634" nil])) ([85652 "latest imap changes break refiling" "Alan Schmitt " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 09:02:40 +0100" "" "" 4699 57 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85652" nil] ([85653 "Re: latest imap changes break refiling" "Alan Schmitt " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 09:04:33 +0100" "" "" 4056 34 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85653" nil]) ([85654 "Re: latest imap changes break refiling" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 19:06:58 +1100" "<87a9123t99.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "" 3698 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85654" nil] ([85655 "Re: la test imap changes break refiling" "Alan Schmitt " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 09:51:06 +0100" "" " <87a9123t99.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4897 53 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85655" nil] ([85657 "Re: latest imap changes break refiling" "Alan Schmitt " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 11:18:29 +0100" "" " <87a9123t99.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 5007 55 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85657" nil] ([85658 "Re: latest imap changes break refiling" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 22:08:18 +1100" "<87iofp3kv1.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87a9123t99.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3473 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85658 " nil] ([85659 "Re: latest imap changes break refiling" "Alan Schmitt " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 13:03:26 +0100" "" " <87a9123t99.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87iofp3kv1.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4560 47 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85659" nil] ([85724 "Re: latest imap changes break refiling" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 13:29:34 +1100" "<87sielw0oh.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87a9123t99.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87iofp3kv1.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3293 11 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85724" nil] ...)))) ([85662 "Re: latest imap changes break refiling" "Alan Schmitt " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 11:19:33 +0 100" "" " <87a9123t99.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 5009 55 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85662" nil])))) ([85660 "[A bit OT] Text usenet server ?" "Xavier Maillard " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 13:18:50 +0100" "" "" 4370 28 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85660" nil] ([85661 "Re: [A bit OT] Text usenet server ?" "Charles Philip Chan " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 08:01:56 -0500" "<87k305kaez.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem>" "" 3942 31 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85661" nil] ([85667 "Re: [A bit OT] Text usenet server ?" "Xavier Maillard " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 22:17:00 +0100" "" " <87k305kaez.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem>" 4303 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.g eneral:85667" nil])) ([85663 "Re: [A bit OT] Text usenet server ?" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 18:57:06 +0100" "<87mw51pj0t.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "" 4154 29 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85663" nil]) ([85664 "Re: [A bit OT] Text usenet server ?" "Harry Putnam " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 13:13:11 -0500" "<87k305e9qg.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "" 3406 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85664" nil])) ([85678 "Why doesn't this render in gnus shr/eww?" "Steinar Bang " "Fri, 30 Jan 2015 21:30:47 +0100" "<87k3043tag.fsf@dod.no>" "" 4120 27 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85678" nil] ([85680 "Re: Why doesn't this render in gnus shr/eww?" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Sat, 31 Jan 2015 00:51:27 +0100" "<87wq43su80.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87k3043tag.fsf@dod.no>" 3977 21 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85680" nil]) ([85 681 "Re: Why doesn't this render in gnus shr/eww?" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Sat, 31 Jan 2015 11:49:26 +1100" "<87zj8zu63t.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87k3043tag.fsf@dod.no>" 3125 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85681" nil] ([85683 "Re: Why doesn't this render in gnus shr/eww?" "Steinar Bang " "Sat, 31 Jan 2015 15:02:41 +0100" "" "<87k3043tag.fsf@dod.no> <87zj8zu63t.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4578 37 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85683" nil] ([85733 "Re: Why doesn't this render in gnus shr/eww?" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 14:37:30 +1100" "<87fval111h.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87k3043tag.fsf@dod.no> <87zj8zu63t.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3909 33 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85733" nil] ([85753 "Re: Why doesn't this render in gnus shr/eww?" "Steinar Bang " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 18:19:00 +0100" "" "<87k3043tag.fsf@dod.no> <87zj 8zu63t.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87fval111h.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3363 9 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85753" nil] ([85754 "Re: Why doesn't this render in gnus shr/eww?" "Steinar Bang " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 21:24:14 +0100" "" "<87k3043tag.fsf@dod.no> <87zj8zu63t.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87fval111h.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3507 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85754" nil] ([85757 "Re: Why doesn't this render in gnus shr/eww?" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Fri, 06 Feb 2015 21:03:35 +1100" "<87wq3vicg8.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87k3043tag.fsf@dod.no> <87zj8zu63t.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87fval111h.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3155 11 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85757" nil]))))))) ([85682 "Gnus gets terribly slow when exiting high-traffic groups" "Jason L Tibbitts II I " "Fri, 30 Jan 2015 19:54:08 -0600" "" "" 3688 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85682" nil] ([85732 "Re: Gnus gets terribly slow when exiting high-traffic groups" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 14:30:45 +1100" "<87k2zx11cq.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "" 3547 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85732" nil] ([85735 "Re: Gnus gets terribly slow when exiting high-traffic groups" "Jason L Tibbitts III " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 21:38:19 -0600" "" " <87k2zx11cq.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 2962 10 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85735" nil] ([85736 "Re: Gnus gets terribly slow when exiting high-traffic groups" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 14:47:31 +1100" "<87sielyq7g.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87k 2zx11cq.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3716 22 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85736" nil] ([85737 "Re: Gnus gets terribly slow when exiting high-traffic groups" "Jason L Tibbitts III " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 22:06:21 -0600" "" " <87k2zx11cq.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87sielyq7g.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3862 36 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85737" nil] ([85742 "Re: Gnus gets terribly slow when exiting high-traffic groups" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 15:51:28 +1100" "<877fvxyn8v.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87k2zx11cq.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87sielyq7g.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3957 35 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85742" nil] ([85743 "Re: Gnus gets terrib ly slow when exiting high-traffic groups" "Jason L Tibbitts III " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 00:12:39 -0600" "" " <87k2zx11cq.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87sielyq7g.fsf@building.gnus.org> <877fvxyn8v.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3690 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85743" nil] ... ...))))))) ([85686 "Recent nnir update broke search on office365" "david.goldberg6@verizon.net (Dave Goldberg)" "Sat, 31 Jan 2015 11:53:28 -0500" "<84386qhoxj.fsf@davestoy.home>" "" 3524 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85686" nil] ([85687 "Re: Recent nnir update broke search on office365" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Sun, 01 Feb 2015 09:40:28 +0800" "<87r3ua9zoz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<84386qhoxj.fsf@davestoy.home>" 5421 28 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85687" nil]) ([85691 "Re: Recent nnir update broke search on office365" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Sun, 01 Feb 2015 14:22:44 +0800" "<871tma9mmj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<84386qhoxj.fsf@davestoy.home>" 6590 67 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85691" nil] ([85701 "Re: Recent nnir update broke search on office365" "Eric S Fraga " "Tue, 3 Feb 2015 11:49:00 +0000" "<87k2zzdxlf.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk>" "<84386qhoxj.fsf@davestoy.home> <871tma9mmj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 5112 31 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85701" nil] ([85702 "Re: Recent nnir update broke search on office365" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Tue, 03 Feb 2015 21:01:41 +0800" "<87egq79miy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<84386qhoxj.fsf@davestoy.home> <871tma9mmj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k2zzdxlf.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk>" 5712 33 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85702" nil] ([85703 "Re: Recent nnir update broke search on office365" "" "Tue, 3 Feb 2015 15:57:08 +0000" "<87iofj7zu3.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<84386qhoxj.fsf@davestoy.home> <871tma9mmj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k2zzdxlf.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87egq79miy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 4682 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85703" nil] ([85705 "Re: Recent nnir update broke search on office365" "david.goldberg6@verizon.net (Dave Goldberg)" "Tue, 03 Feb 2015 18:21:36 -0500" "<84mw4utwcf.fsf@davestoy.home>" "<84386qhoxj.fsf@davestoy.home> <871tma9mmj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k2zzdxlf.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87egq79miy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87iofj7zu3.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 3695 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85705" nil] ([85707 "Re: Recent nnir update broke search on office365" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 11:02:12 +0800" "<87oapa8jm3.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<84386qhoxj.fsf@davestoy.home> <871tma9mmj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k2zzdxlf.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87egq79miy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87iofj7zu3.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <84mw4u twcf.fsf@davestoy.home>" 5179 19 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85707" nil] ...))))) ([85706 "Re: Recent nnir update broke search on office365" "Katsumi Yamaoka " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 09:15:19 +0900" "" "<84386qhoxj.fsf@davestoy.home> <871tma9mmj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 3969 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85706" nil] ([85708 "Re: Recent nnir update broke search on office365" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 11:30:52 +0800" "<87k2zy8iab.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<84386qhoxj.fsf@davestoy.home> <871tma9mmj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> " 6166 44 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85708" nil] ([85715 "Re: Recent nnir update broke search on office365" "Andreas Schwab " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 19:28:24 +0100" "<87mw4ta5vb.fsf@igel.home>" "<84386qhoxj.fsf@davestoy.home> <871tma9mmj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k2zy8iab.fsf@ericabraham sen.net>" 4300 22 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85715" nil] ([85723 "Re: Recent nnir update broke search on office365" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 09:03:36 +0800" "<8761bhrwyf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<84386qhoxj.fsf@davestoy.home> <871tma9mmj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k2zy8iab.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw4ta5vb.fsf@igel.home>" 5244 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85723" nil])))))) ([85692 "Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Vincent Bernat " "Tue, 03 Feb 2015 00:18:54 +0100" "" "" 3743 13 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85692" nil] ([85694 "Re: Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Steinar Bang " "Tue, 03 Feb 2015 07:42:22 +0100" "" "" 3550 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85694" nil] ([85695 "Re: Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Vincent Bernat " "Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:40:47 +0100" "" " " 4679 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85695" nil] ([85696 "Re: Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Vincent Bernat " "Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:44:31 +0100" "" " " 5202 42 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85696" nil]) ([85697 "Re: Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Steinar Bang " "Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:05:23 +0100" "" " " 4008 30 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85697" nil] ([85698 "Re: Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Tassilo Horn " "Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:17:47 +0100" "<87h9v38l3o.fsf@gnu.org>" " < upzciofjfqcx.fsf@dod.no> " 3142 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85698" nil]) ([85699 "Re: Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Vincent Bernat " "Tue, 03 Feb 2015 10:09:56 +0100" "<87oapbe4yj.fsf@zoro.exoscale.ch>" " " 4523 19 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85699" nil] ([85700 "Re: Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Steinar Bang " "Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:54:48 +0100" "" " <87oapbe4yj.fsf@zoro.exoscale.ch>" 3619 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85700" nil] ([85704 "Re: Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Vincent Bernat " "Tue, 03 Feb 2015 21:52:55 +0100" "" " <87oapbe4yj.fsf@zoro.exoscale.ch> " 4845 28 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85704" nil] ...))))))) ([85693 "Unable to see all messages since recent IMAP changes" "Vincent Bernat " "Tue, 03 Feb 2015 00:19:25 +0100" "" "" 3796 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85693" nil]) ([85758 "Gnus Own-Cloudy?" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Tue, 10 Feb 2015 14:05:08 +0800" "<87iofawbcb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "" 5231 31 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85758" nil] ([85759 "Re: Gnus Own-Cloudy?" "Eric S Fraga " "Tue, 10 Feb 2015 09:17:25 +0000" "<87twyu6s7u.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<87iofawbcb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 5221 23 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85759" nil] ([85760 "Re: Gnus Own-Cloudy?" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Tue, 10 Feb 2015 18:20:48 +0800" "<87mw4mukxr.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87iofawbcb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87twyu6s7u.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 5971 39 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85760" nil] ([85761 "Re: Gnus Own-Cloudy?" "Eric S Fraga " "Tue, 10 Feb 2015 10:48:37 +0000" "<87wq3qm48q.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<87iofawbcb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87twyu6s7u.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw4mukxr.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 6597 62 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85761" nil] ([85762 "Re: Gnus Own-Cloudy?" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Tue, 10 Feb 2015 18:53:33 +0800" "<874mquujf6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87iofawbcb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87twyu6s7u.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw4mukxr.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wq3qm48q.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 6996 69 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85762" nil] ([85763 "Re: Gnus Own-Cloudy?" "Eric S Fraga " "Tue, 10 Feb 2015 11:45:49 +0000" "<87lhk6kn0y.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<87iofawbcb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87twyu6s7u.fsf@uc l.ac.uk> <87mw4mukxr.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wq3qm48q.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <874mquujf6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 5398 30 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85763" nil] ([85766 "Re: Gnus Own-Cloudy?" "jorge.alfaro-murillo@yale.edu (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo)" "Tue, 10 Feb 2015 10:19:19 -0500" "<877fvpokug.fsf@yale.edu>" "<87iofawbcb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87twyu6s7u.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw4mukxr.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wq3qm48q.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <874mquujf6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhk6kn0y.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 3552 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85766" nil]) ([85768 "Re: Gnus Own-Cloudy?" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Wed, 11 Feb 2015 10:12:03 +0800" "<87iof9tcwc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87iofawbcb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87twyu6s7u.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw4mukxr.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wq3qm48q.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <874mquujf6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhk6kn0y.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 5981 32 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85768" nil] ... ...)))))) ([85767 "R e: Gnus Own-Cloudy?" "jorge.alfaro-murillo@yale.edu (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo)" "Tue, 10 Feb 2015 10:31:00 -0500" "<87386dokaz.fsf@yale.edu>" "<87iofawbcb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 3924 32 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85767" nil])) ...)) gnus-summary-prepare() gnus-summary-read-group-1("nntp+news.gmane.org:gmane.emacs.gnus.general" nil t nil nil nil) gnus-summary-read-group("nntp+news.gmane.org:gmane.emacs.gnus.general" nil t nil nil nil nil) gnus-group-read-group(nil t) gnus-group-select-group(nil) funcall-interactively(gnus-group-select-group nil) call-interactively(gnus-group-select-group nil nil) command-execute(gnus-group-select-group) --=-=-=-- From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 04:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: Glenn Morris , Eli Zaretskii , 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.14238876246275 (code B ref 18522); Sat, 14 Feb 2015 04:21:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Feb 2015 04:20:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42511 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YMUDQ-0001d9-5R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 23:20:24 -0500 Received: from smtp.syd.comcen.com.au ([203.23.236.77]:1033) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YMUDN-0001cz-HQ for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 23:20:22 -0500 Received: from building.gnus.org ([27.96.197.126]) by smtp.syd.comcen.com.au (8.13.4/8.12.9) with ESMTP id t1E4JAZf033037; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 15:19:11 +1100 (EST) From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 15:19:06 +1100 In-Reply-To: <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> ("Peter \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?M\?\= \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?\=FCnster\=22's\?\= message of "Fri, 13 Feb 2015 15:39:22 +0100") Message-ID: <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-comcen-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-comcen-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-comcen-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=0.119, required 4, AWL 0.02, BAYES_50 0.00, RDNS_NONE 0.10) X-comcen-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Peter M=FCnster writes: > They are the same. Please find attached an example. The backtrace doesn't contain the full info, unfortunately. After you enter the debugger, can you go to the *scratch* buffer and `M-: (pp threads (current-buffer)) RET' Then post the output here. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 14:35:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: Glenn Morris , Eli Zaretskii , 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.142530688613682 (code B ref 18522); Mon, 02 Mar 2015 14:35:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Mar 2015 14:34:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33995 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YSRQj-0003Yc-Vl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2015 09:34:46 -0500 Received: from smtp09.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.131]:31602 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YSRQd-0003YI-Va for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2015 09:34:41 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.2.93.102]) by mwinf5d18 with ME id yeaQ1p01S2CWnca03eaRd2; Mon, 02 Mar 2015 15:34:33 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 15:34:33 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.2.93.102 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B512C429D; Mon, 2 Mar 2015 15:34:19 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 15:34:19 +0100 Message-ID: <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain On Sat, Feb 14 2015, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > After you enter the debugger, can you go to the *scratch* buffer and > > `M-: (pp threads (current-buffer)) RET' Hi, `threads' is not defined then... Instead I've modified `gnus-sort-threads' to print `threads' into the buffer. In both cases it's the same. Please find attached an example. -- Peter --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=gnus-sort-threads.txt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit (([85605 "Re: gnus-dired-attach: default mime-type application/octet-stream, why" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 15:11:41 +1100" "<87386vzgqq.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87mwc37mh7.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 3794 28 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85605" nil]) ([85344 "restore the setup file?" "Sharon Kimble " "Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:55:16 +0000" "<87r3w6vzp7.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "" 5645 42 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85344" nil] ([85345 "Re: restore the setup file?" "jorge.alfaro-murillo@yale.edu (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo)" "Thu, 11 Dec 2014 13:08:07 -0500" "<87oaraoy9k.fsf@yale.edu>" "<87r3w6vzp7.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 3529 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85345" nil] ([85346 "Re: restore the setup file?" "Sharon Kimble " "Thu, 11 Dec 2014 19:05:11 +0000" "<87fvcmuhw8.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "<87r3w6vzp7.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87oaraoy9k.fsf@yale.edu>" 6259 53 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85346" nil]))) ([85347 "A little coaching on massive downloading or messages" "Harry Putnam " "Thu, 11 Dec 2014 14:10:43 -0500" "<87fvcmovd8.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "" 3407 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85347" nil]) ([85348 "shr.el: add linebreaks to mouse-over tooltips (title attributes)" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Fri, 12 Dec 2014 22:29:21 +0100" "<877fxwr1zi.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "" 5604 38 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179964 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85348" nil] ([85357 "Re: shr.el: add linebreaks to mouse-over tooltips (title attributes)" "Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen " "Sat, 13 Dec 2014 16:24:31 +0100" "" "<877fxwr1zi.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 5762 23 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180011 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85357" nil])) ([85353 "Does nnir support nnrss?" "Frank " "Sat, 13 Dec 2014 10:30:48 +0800" "<87vblguvqf.fsf@gmail.com>" "" 3497 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85353" nil] ([85513 "Re: Does nnir support nnrss?" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 14:41:08 +1100" "<87ppa2jjjf.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87vblguvqf.fsf@gmail.com>" 3027 12 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85513" nil])) ([85363 "anything newer than emacs-w3m for rendering html" "Harry Putnam " "Thu, 18 Dec 2014 16:22:56 -0500" "<87k31or6tr.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "" 4316 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85363" nil] ([85364 "Re: anything newer than emacs-w3m for rendering html" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Thu, 18 Dec 2014 19:31:17 +0100" "<87sigchksq.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87k31or6tr.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 4625 43 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85364" nil] ([85371 "Re: anything newer than emacs-w3m for rendering html" "Malcolm Purvis " "Fri, 19 Dec 2014 14:10:22 +1100" "" "<87k31or6tr.fsf@reader.local.lan> <87sigchksq.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 3589 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85371" nil] ([85372 "Re: anything newer than emacs-w3m for rendering html" "Harry Putnam " "Fri, 19 Dec 2014 12:22:10 -0500" "<87388b5zct.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87k31or6tr.fsf@reader.local.lan> <87sigchksq.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> " 3564 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85372" nil] ([85379 "Re: anything newer than emacs-w3m for rendering html" "Steinar Bang " "Sat, 20 Dec 2014 10:06:13 +0100" "<878ui2k7wa.fsf@dod.no>" "<87k31or6tr.fsf@reader.local.lan> <87sigchksq.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87388b5zct.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 3429 9 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85379" nil]) ([85390 "Re: anything newer than emacs-w3m for rendering html" "Malcolm Purvis " "Sun, 21 Dec 2014 22:28:47 +1100" "" "<87k31or6tr.fsf@reader.local.lan> <87sigchksq.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87388b5zct.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 4632 19 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85390" nil])))) ([85366 "Re: anything newer than emacs-w3m for rendering html" "Filipp Gunbin " "Fri, 19 Dec 2014 01:07:41 +0300" "" "<87k31or6tr.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 4095 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85366" nil] ([85367 "Re: anything newer than emacs-w3m for rendering html" "Harry Putnam " "Thu, 18 Dec 2014 21:11:12 -0500" "<87h9wsmlrz.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87k31or6tr.fsf@reader.local.lan> " 4771 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85367" nil] ([85512 "Re: anything newer than emacs-w3m for rendering html" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 14:40:33 +1100" "<87twzejjke.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87k31or6tr.fsf@reader.local.lan> <87h9wsmlrz.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 3304 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85512" nil])))) ([85374 "movemail failing .. apparently permission issue" "Harry Putnam " "Fri, 19 Dec 2014 19:36:05 -0500" "<87bnmzduoa.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "" 4308 39 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85374" nil] ([85378 "Re: movemail failing .. apparently permission issue" "Andreas Schwab " "Sat, 20 Dec 2014 09:55:08 +0100" "" "<87bnmzduoa.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 4876 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85378" nil] ([85381 "Re: movemail failing .. apparently permission issue" "Harry Putnam " "Sat, 20 Dec 2014 07:59:33 -0500" "<87tx0qo4sq.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87bnmzduoa.fsf@reader.local.lan> " 3517 23 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85381" nil])) ([85393 "Re: movemail failing .. apparently permission issue" "Harry Putnam " "Sun, 21 Dec 2014 16:05:20 -0500" "<874msovhm7.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87bnmzduoa.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 5024 61 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85393" nil])) ([85383 "Track down a failure involving shr" "Harry Putnam " "Sat, 20 Dec 2014 16:16:50 -0500" "<87fvcaf2d9.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "" 5542 70 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85383" nil] ([85384 "Re: Track down a failure involving shr" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Sat, 20 Dec 2014 22:57:43 +0100" "<87h9wqvvag.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87fvcaf2d9.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 3937 19 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85384" nil]) ([85385 "Re: Track down a failure involving shr" "Steinar Bang " "Sat, 20 Dec 2014 23:45:24 +0100" "<86tx0qkkjf.fsf@dod.no>" "<87fvcaf2d9.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 3291 10 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85385" nil] ([85386 "Re: Track down a failure involving shr" "Clemens Schüller " "Sat, 20 Dec 2014 23:52:46 +0100" "<87oaqyc4sh.fsf@cougar.home.aneadesign.com>" "<87fvcaf2d9.fsf@reader.local.lan> <86tx0qkkjf.fsf@dod.no>" 4764 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85386" nil] ([85388 "Re: Track down a failure involving shr" "Harry Putnam " "Sat, 20 Dec 2014 18:19:55 -0500" "<873889gb8k.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87fvcaf2d9.fsf@reader.local.lan> <86tx0qkkjf.fsf@dod.no> <87oaqyc4sh.fsf@cougar.home.aneadesign.com>" 5424 67 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85388" nil] ([85389 "Re: Track down a failure involving shr" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Sun, 21 Dec 2014 07:35:05 +0100" "<8761d5qzmu.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87fvcaf2d9.fsf@reader.local.lan> <86tx0qkkjf.fsf@dod.no> <87oaqyc4sh.fsf@cougar.home.aneadesign.com> <873889gb8k.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 4133 23 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85389" nil]) ([85391 "Re: Track down a failure involving shr" "Clemens Schüller " "Sun, 21 Dec 2014 13:27:59 +0100" "<873889p4q8.fsf@cougar.home.aneadesign.com>" "<87fvcaf2d9.fsf@reader.local.lan> <86tx0qkkjf.fsf@dod.no> <87oaqyc4sh.fsf@cougar.home.aneadesign.com> <873889gb8k.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 6893 65 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85391" nil] ([85392 "Re: Track down a failure involving shr" "Harry Putnam " "Sun, 21 Dec 2014 06:51:50 -0500" "<877fxlxlt5.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87fvcaf2d9.fsf@reader.local.lan> <86tx0qkkjf.fsf@dod.no> <87oaqyc4sh.fsf@cougar.home.aneadesign.com> <873889gb8k.fsf@reader.local.lan> <873889p4q8.fsf@cougar.home.aneadesign.com>" 4303 30 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85392" nil])))) ([85387 "Re: Track down a failure involving shr" "Harry Putnam " "Sat, 20 Dec 2014 17:54:18 -0500" "<877fxmexut.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87fvcaf2d9.fsf@reader.local.lan> <86tx0qkkjf.fsf@dod.no>" 4170 39 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85387" nil]))) ([85394 "large number of References: breaks gnus when tramp is in use" "Wes Hardaker " "Mon, 22 Dec 2014 06:35:42 -0800" "<0loaqvlpkx.fsf@wjh.hardakers.net>" "" 4236 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85394" nil] ([85511 "Re: large number of References: breaks gnus when tramp is in use" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 14:31:17 +1100" "<87y4oqjjzu.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<0loaqvlpkx.fsf@wjh.hardakers.net>" 3603 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85511" nil])) ([85395 "using nnimap-split-fancy to split mail on server?" "Stephen Leake " "Mon, 22 Dec 2014 10:48:55 -0600" "<85h9wnocjs.fsf@stephe-leake.org>" "" 4616 52 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85395" nil] ([85510 "Re: using nnimap-split-fancy to split mail on server?" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 14:29:48 +1100" "<87386ykymr.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<85h9wnocjs.fsf@stephe-leake.org>" 3800 35 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85510" nil] ([85531 "Re: using nnimap-split-fancy to split mail on server?" "Stephen Leake " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 04:04:29 -0600" "<85egqhdfiq.fsf@stephe-leake.org>" "<85h9wnocjs.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <87386ykymr.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 5471 64 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85531" nil] ([85540 "Re: using nnimap-split-fancy to split mail on server?" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:55:38 +1100" "<87ioftdotx.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<85h9wnocjs.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <87386ykymr.fsf@building.gnus.org> <85egqhdfiq.fsf@stephe-leake.org>" 3226 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85540" nil] ([85587 "Re: using nnimap-split-fancy to split mail on server?" "Stephen Leake " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 03:25:52 -0600" "<854mrcbmn3.fsf@stephe-leake.org>" "<85h9wnocjs.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <87386ykymr.fsf@building.gnus.org> <85egqhdfiq.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <87ioftdotx.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4069 22 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85587" nil] ([85588 "Re: using nnimap-split-fancy to split mail on server?" "Stephen Leake " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 04:16:42 -0600" "<85386wedf9.fsf@stephe-leake.org>" "<85h9wnocjs.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <87386ykymr.fsf@building.gnus.org> <85egqhdfiq.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <87ioftdotx.fsf@building.gnus.org> <854mrcbmn3.fsf@stephe-leake.org>" 4321 28 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85588" nil])))))) ([85397 "How to search inside emails?" "Sharon Kimble " "Sun, 28 Dec 2014 19:52:07 +0000" "<87d273r1qw.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "" 4363 39 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85397" nil] ([85398 "Re: How to search inside emails?" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Sun, 28 Dec 2014 21:42:20 +0100" "<87mw678q1f.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87d273r1qw.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 4362 32 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85398" nil] ([85420 "Re: How to search inside emails?" "Sharon Kimble " "Sat, 03 Jan 2015 15:11:25 +0000" "<871tnbvqzm.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "<87d273r1qw.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87mw678q1f.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 5392 70 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85420" nil] ([85421 "Re: How to search inside emails?" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Sat, 03 Jan 2015 20:19:39 +0100" "<87h9w7hdtg.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87d273r1qw.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87mw678q1f.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <871tnbvqzm.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 4300 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85421" nil])) ([85422 "Re: How to search inside emails?" "Sharon Kimble " "Sat, 03 Jan 2015 19:30:13 +0000" "<877fx37jcq.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "<87d273r1qw.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87mw678q1f.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 4743 47 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85422" nil])) ([85400 "Re: How to search inside emails?" "Steinar Bang " "Mon, 29 Dec 2014 08:32:31 +0100" "<86387yhpww.fsf@dod.no>" "<87d273r1qw.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 3461 13 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85400" nil])) ([85399 "Need help on setting multiple gmail imap account" "Eric " "Mon, 29 Dec 2014 01:27:06 +0000 (UTC)" "" "" 5900 34 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85399" nil] ([85401 "Re: Need help on setting multiple gmail imap account" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Mon, 29 Dec 2014 10:11:10 +0100" "<874mseu8gh.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "" 4382 34 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85401" nil] ([85713 "Re: Need help on setting multiple gmail imap account" "Ted Zlatanov " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 06:46:52 -0500" "<87wq3xyk43.fsf@lifelogs.com>" " <874mseu8gh.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 4078 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85713" nil] ([85729 "Re: Need help on setting multiple gmail imap account" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 14:13:40 +1100" "<871tm5vymz.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <874mseu8gh.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87wq3xyk43.fsf@lifelogs.com>" 3974 35 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85729" nil] ([85750 "Re: Need help on setting multiple gmail imap account" "Ted Zlatanov " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 05:52:28 -0500" "<87oap8wryr.fsf@lifelogs.com>" " <874mseu8gh.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87wq3xyk43.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871tm5vymz.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3652 13 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85750" nil])) ([85752 "Re: Need help on setting multiple gmail imap account" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 16:51:00 +0100" "<8761bg5pcr.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" " <874mseu8gh.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87wq3xyk43.fsf@lifelogs.com>" 4099 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85752" nil])))) ([85402 "choosing iso-8859-1 over utf-8 for some newsgroups" "Julien Cubizolles " "Mon, 29 Dec 2014 17:21:47 +0100" "<87ppb2a0kk.fsf@free.fr>" "" 3973 28 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85402" nil] ([85403 "Re: choosing iso-8859-1 over utf-8 for some newsgroups" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Mon, 29 Dec 2014 18:35:35 +0100" "<87oaqms6jc.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87ppb2a0kk.fsf@free.fr>" 4162 28 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85403" nil] ([85404 "Re: choosing iso-8859-1 over utf-8 for some newsgroups" "Julien Cubizolles " "Tue, 30 Dec 2014 00:11:12 +0100" "<87sifyvypb.fsf@free.fr>" "<87ppb2a0kk.fsf@free.fr> <87oaqms6jc.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 4570 41 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85404" nil] ([85411 "Re: choosing iso-8859-1 over utf-8 for some newsgroups" "Malcolm Purvis " "Thu, 01 Jan 2015 17:20:46 +1100" "" "<87ppb2a0kk.fsf@free.fr> <87oaqms6jc.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87sifyvypb.fsf@free.fr>" 4063 30 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85411" nil])))) ([85405 "Trouble viewing PDF attachments (with patches)" "peder@news.klingenberg.no (Peder O. Klingenberg)" "Tue, 30 Dec 2014 12:35:40 +0100" "" "" 9027 174 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85405" nil] ([85406 "Re: Trouble viewing PDF attachments (with patches)" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Wed, 31 Dec 2014 09:20:22 +0800" "<87iogszkbt.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "" 5363 51 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85406" nil] ([85407 "Re: Trouble viewing PDF attachments (with patches)" "peder@news.klingenberg.no (Peder O. Klingenberg)" "Wed, 31 Dec 2014 10:16:33 +0100" "" " <87iogszkbt.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 3807 22 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85407" nil] ([85408 "Re: Trouble viewing PDF attachments (with patches)" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Wed, 31 Dec 2014 18:29:53 +0800" "<87a924xgbi.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" " <87iogszkbt.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> " 3941 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85408" nil] ([85409 "Re: Trouble viewing PDF attachments (with patches)" "peder@news.klingenberg.no (Peder O. Klingenberg)" "Wed, 31 Dec 2014 15:04:18 +0100" "" " <87iogszkbt.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a924xgbi.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 3836 23 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85409" nil])))) ([85509 "Re: Trouble viewing PDF attachments (with patches)" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 14:28:02 +1100" "<877fwakypp.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "" 3759 23 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85509" nil])) ([85412 "fancy splitting interactively" "Uwe Brauer " "Sat, 03 Jan 2015 11:22:51 +0100" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" "" 13299 147 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85412" nil] ([85413 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Eric S Fraga " "Sat, 3 Jan 2015 10:57:48 +0000" "<87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 4955 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85413" nil] ([85415 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Sat, 03 Jan 2015 21:53:28 +0800" "<871tncvulj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 3676 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85415" nil] ([85418 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Uwe Brauer " "Sat, 03 Jan 2015 18:43:06 +0100" "<877fx37ob9.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tncvulj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 12808 160 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85418" nil] ([85425 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Sun, 04 Jan 2015 11:12:54 +0800" "<87k313utl5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tncvulj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fx37ob9.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 5219 59 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85425" nil] ([85429 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Eric S Fraga " "Mon, 5 Jan 2015 12:31:53 +0000" "<874ms54ddy.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tncvulj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fx37ob9.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87k313utl5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 5706 30 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85429" nil] ([85430 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Mon, 05 Jan 2015 22:34:15 +0800" "<87mw5x70uw.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tncvulj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fx37ob9.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87k313utl5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874ms54ddy.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 4679 35 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85430" nil] ([85431 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Eric S Fraga " "Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:30:48 +0000" "<87mw5x2qjb.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tncvulj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fx37ob9.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87k313utl5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874ms54ddy.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw5x70uw.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 5110 19 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85431" nil] ([85432 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Mon, 05 Jan 2015 20:23:10 +0100" "<878uhhvxpd.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tncvulj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fx37ob9.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87k313utl5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874ms54ddy.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw5x70uw.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw5x2qjb.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 4327 26 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85432" nil] ([85433 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Tue, 06 Jan 2015 09:25:58 +0800" "<877fx07l95.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tncvulj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fx37ob9.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87k313utl5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874ms54ddy.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw5x70uw.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw5x2qjb.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <878uhhvxpd.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 4623 36 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85433" nil] ([85434 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Russ Allbery " "Mon, 05 Jan 2015 21:35:13 -0800" "<87r3v8o4j2.fsf@hope.eyrie.org>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tncvulj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fx37ob9.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87k313utl5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874ms54ddy.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw5x70uw.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw5x2qjb.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <878uhhvxpd.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <877fx07l95.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 4008 22 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85434" nil] ([85435 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Tue, 06 Jan 2015 14:34:20 +0800" "<87lhlgxvrn.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tncvulj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fx37ob9.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87k313utl5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874ms54ddy.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw5x70uw.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw5x2qjb.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <878uhhvxpd.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <877fx07l95.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r3v8o4j2.fsf@hope.eyrie.org>" 5260 43 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85435" nil] ([85436 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Russ Allbery " "Mon, 05 Jan 2015 22:39:50 -0800" "<87zj9wmmyx.fsf@hope.eyrie.org>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> 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nil] ([85457 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Fri, 09 Jan 2015 11:01:56 +0800" "<87y4pcmzbv.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tncvulj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fx37ob9.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87k313utl5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874ms54ddy.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw5x70uw.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw5x2qjb.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <878uhhvxpd.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <877fx07l95.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r3v8o4j2.fsf@hope.eyrie.org> <87lhlgxvrn.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87zj9wmmyx.fsf@hope.eyrie.org> <87ppasgyi5.fsf@nowhere.org>" 6593 80 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85457" nil])) ([85458 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Fri, 09 Jan 2015 11:00:39 +0800" "<87387kodyg.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tncvulj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fx37ob9.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87k313utl5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874ms54ddy.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw5x70uw.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw5x2qjb.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <878uhhvxpd.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <877fx07l95.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r3v8o4j2.fsf@hope.eyrie.org> <87lhlgxvrn.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87zj9wmmyx.fsf@hope.eyrie.org>" 6534 73 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85458" nil])))) ([85438 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Eric S Fraga " "Tue, 6 Jan 2015 18:05:25 +0000" "<87y4pfeqe2.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tncvulj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fx37ob9.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87k313utl5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874ms54ddy.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw5x70uw.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw5x2qjb.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <878uhhvxpd.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <877fx07l95.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 5698 30 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85438" nil] ([85439 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Eric S Fraga " "Tue, 6 Jan 2015 18:20:29 +0000" "<87lhlfepoy.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tncvulj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fx37ob9.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87k313utl5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874ms54ddy.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw5x70uw.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw5x2qjb.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <878uhhvxpd.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <877fx07l95.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y4pfeqe2.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 5114 16 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85439" nil]) ([85441 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Wed, 07 Jan 2015 09:28:30 +0800" "<87fvbnwf9d.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tncvulj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fx37ob9.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87k313utl5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874ms54ddy.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw5x70uw.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw5x2qjb.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <878uhhvxpd.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <877fx07l95.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y4pfeqe2.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 4516 34 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85441" nil]))) ([85442 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Julien Cubizolles " "Wed, 07 Jan 2015 07:21:57 +0100" "<87y4pfm7p6.fsf@free.fr>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tncvulj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fx37ob9.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87k313utl5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874ms54ddy.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw5x70uw.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw5x2qjb.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <878uhhvxpd.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 3946 16 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85442" nil] ([85443 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Wed, 07 Jan 2015 18:12:45 +0800" "<87iogiucf6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tncvulj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fx37ob9.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87k313utl5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874ms54ddy.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw5x70uw.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw5x2qjb.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <878uhhvxpd.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87y4pfm7p6.fsf@free.fr>" 3975 21 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85443" nil] ([85484 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Julien Cubizolles " "Wed, 14 Jan 2015 11:27:09 +0100" "<87egqx7j42.fsf@free.fr>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tncvulj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fx37ob9.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87k313utl5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874ms54ddy.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw5x70uw.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw5x2qjb.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <878uhhvxpd.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87y4pfm7p6.fsf@free.fr> <87iogiucf6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 3584 10 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85484" nil])) ([85447 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Wed, 07 Jan 2015 20:46:33 +0100" "<87wq4yjrvq.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tncvulj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fx37ob9.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87k313utl5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874ms54ddy.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw5x70uw.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw5x2qjb.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <878uhhvxpd.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87y4pfm7p6.fsf@free.fr>" 4481 29 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85447" nil] ([85483 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Julien Cubizolles " "Wed, 14 Jan 2015 11:27:37 +0100" "<87a91l7j3a.fsf@free.fr>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhlk168j.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871tncvulj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fx37ob9.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87k313utl5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874ms54ddy.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw5x70uw.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw5x2qjb.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <878uhhvxpd.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87y4pfm7p6.fsf@free.fr> <87wq4yjrvq.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 3682 16 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85483" nil]))))))))))) ([85414 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Glyn Millington " "Sat, 03 Jan 2015 10:39:10 +0000" "<87k314up0x.fsf@nowhere.org>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 3926 34 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85414" nil]) ([85416 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Sat, 03 Jan 2015 15:48:24 +0100" "<87tx07j4xz.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 5314 58 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85416" nil] ([85417 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Uwe Brauer " "Sat, 03 Jan 2015 18:38:24 +0100" "<87bnmf7oj3.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87tx07j4xz.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 13256 137 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85417" nil] ([85419 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Sat, 03 Jan 2015 18:51:01 +0100" "<87lhljhhx6.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87tx07j4xz.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87bnmf7oj3.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 3913 19 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85419" nil] ([85423 "Re: fancy splitting interactively" "Uwe Brauer " "Sat, 03 Jan 2015 23:49:49 +0100" "<87mw5zqy2a.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87tx07j4xz.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87bnmf7oj3.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhljhhx6.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 12215 142 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85423" nil]) ([85427 "[bug] (was: fancy splitting interactively)" "Uwe Brauer " "Sun, 04 Jan 2015 15:56:58 +0100" "<878uhiiog5.fsf_-_@mat.ucm.es>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87tx07j4xz.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87bnmf7oj3.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhljhhx6.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 15048 157 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85427" nil] ([85508 "Re: [bug]" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 14:15:22 +1100" "<87iofukzat.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87fvbs6u4k.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87tx07j4xz.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87bnmf7oj3.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87lhljhhx6.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <878uhiiog5.fsf_-_@mat.ucm.es>" 3569 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85508" nil])))))) ([85424 "IMAP time out" "Kete Foy " "Sat, 03 Jan 2015 20:24:01 -0500" "<54A89631.3090900@ninthfloor.org>" "" 2878 12 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85424" nil] ([85426 "Re: IMAP time out" "Steinar Bang " "Sun, 04 Jan 2015 09:23:49 +0100" "" "<54A89631.3090900@ninthfloor.org>" 3646 22 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85426" nil])) ([85440 "Performance problem of imap move" "mremond@process-one.net (Mickaël Rémond)" "Tue, 06 Jan 2015 20:06:47 +0100" "" "" 5253 39 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85440" nil] ([85496 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "mremond@process-one.net (Mickaël Rémond)" "Wed, 21 Jan 2015 15:11:44 +0100" "" "" 4610 26 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85496" nil] ([85506 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Sun, 25 Jan 2015 15:57:23 +1100" "<87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " " 3767 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85506" nil] ([85507 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 13:52:46 +1100" "<87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3130 13 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85507" nil] ([85532 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Tassilo Horn " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 13:11:24 +0100" "<87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3789 27 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85532" nil] ([85535 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Steinar Bang " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 17:55:25 +0100" "" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org>" 3470 10 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85535" nil]) ([85539 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:54:15 +1100" "<87mw55dow8.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org>" 3967 27 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85539" nil] ([85579 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Tassilo Horn " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 08:23:42 +0100" "<87mw54ptz5.fsf@gnu.org>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw55dow8.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3867 28 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85579" nil] ([85580 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Tassilo Horn " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 08:28:52 +0100" "<87iofsptqj.fsf@gnu.org>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw55dow8.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87mw54ptz5.fsf@gnu.org>" 3526 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85580" nil]) ([85581 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 18:30:34 +1100" "<87mw547k9x.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw55dow8.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87mw54ptz5.fsf@gnu.org>" 3836 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85581" nil] ([85584 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Tassilo Horn " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 09:01:30 +0100" "<878ugops85.fsf@gnu.org>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw55dow8.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87mw54ptz5.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw547k9x.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3953 31 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85584" nil] ([85585 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Tassilo Horn " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 09:05:37 +0100" "<874mrcps1a.fsf@gnu.org>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw55dow8.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87mw54ptz5.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw547k9x.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878ugops85.fsf@gnu.org>" 4473 40 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85585" nil] ([85594 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 11:45:00 +1100" "<87r3uf20oj.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw55dow8.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87mw54ptz5.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw547k9x.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878ugops85.fsf@gnu.org> <874mrcps1a.fsf@gnu.org>" 4392 37 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85594" nil])))))) ([85556 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:46:11 +0800" "<87oapkrim4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org>" 6162 43 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85556" nil] ([85559 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 15:48:00 +1100" "<874mrcbzi7.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org> <87oapkrim4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 3343 13 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85559" nil] ([85561 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 13:02:50 +0800" "<87ppa0q0hx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org> <87oapkrim4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874mrcbzi7.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 5152 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85561" nil] ([85565 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 16:09:30 +1100" "<87lhkoajxx.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org> <87oapkrim4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874mrcbzi7.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa0q0hx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 3587 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85565" nil] ([85590 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Steinar Bang " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 15:41:57 +0100" "" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org> <87oapkrim4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874mrcbzi7.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa0q0hx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhkoajxx.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3507 9 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85590" nil] ([85598 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "david.goldberg6@verizon.net (Dave Goldberg)" "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 21:06:06 -0500" "<84twzb64mp.fsf@davestoy.home>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org> <87oapkrim4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874mrcbzi7.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa0q0hx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhkoajxx.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 5457 34 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85598" nil] ([85651 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "david.goldberg6@verizon.net (Dave Goldberg)" "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 00:11:33 -0500" "<841tme5fy2.fsf@davestoy.home>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org> <87oapkrim4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874mrcbzi7.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa0q0hx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhkoajxx.fsf@building.gnus.org> <84twzb64mp.fsf@davestoy.home>" 5027 38 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85651" nil]))) ([85600 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 10:29:20 +0800" "<87a913tz7j.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org> <87oapkrim4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874mrcbzi7.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa0q0hx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhkoajxx.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 7300 58 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85600" nil] ([85603 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 12:08:05 +0800" "<87fvavsg2i.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org> <87oapkrim4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874mrcbzi7.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa0q0hx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhkoajxx.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87a913tz7j.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 6679 48 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85603" nil] ([85604 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 12:10:10 +0800" "<87bnljsfz1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org> <87oapkrim4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874mrcbzi7.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa0q0hx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhkoajxx.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87a913tz7j.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87fvavsg2i.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 6915 51 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85604" nil] ([85606 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 12:32:58 +0800" "<877fw7sex1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org> <87oapkrim4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874mrcbzi7.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa0q0hx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhkoajxx.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87a913tz7j.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87fvavsg2i.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87bnljsfz1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 8753 91 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85606" nil] ([85607 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 16:08:10 +1100" "<87twzbxzk5.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org> <87oapkrim4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874mrcbzi7.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa0q0hx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhkoajxx.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87a913tz7j.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87fvavsg2i.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87bnljsfz1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fw7sex1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 3756 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85607" nil] ([85608 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 16:13:18 +1100" "<87pp9zxzbl.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org> <87oapkrim4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874mrcbzi7.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa0q0hx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhkoajxx.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87a913tz7j.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87fvavsg2i.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87bnljsfz1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fw7sex1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87twzbxzk5.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3643 13 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85608" nil] ([85614 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 13:52:35 +0800" "<87iofr8na4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org> <87oapkrim4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874mrcbzi7.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa0q0hx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhkoajxx.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87a913tz7j.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87fvavsg2i.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87bnljsfz1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fw7sex1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87twzbxzk5.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87pp9zxzbl.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 5311 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85614" nil]) ([85629 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Tassilo Horn " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 15:22:07 +0100" "<87iofr0yuo.fsf@gnu.org>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org> <87oapkrim4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874mrcbzi7.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa0q0hx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhkoajxx.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87a913tz7j.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87fvavsg2i.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87bnljsfz1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fw7sex1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87twzbxzk5.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87pp9zxzbl.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3660 16 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85629" nil] ([85639 "Re: Performance problem of imap move" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 12:08:05 +1100" "<874mrapf62.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87oapn5ufg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjul0ch.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87siex213n.fsf@gnu.org> <87oapkrim4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874mrcbzi7.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa0q0hx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhkoajxx.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87a913tz7j.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87fvavsg2i.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87bnljsfz1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fw7sex1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87twzbxzk5.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87pp9zxzbl.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87iofr0yuo.fsf@gnu.org>" 3931 21 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85639" nil]))))))))))))))))) ([85444 "saving \"sent\" to just one folder?" "Sharon Kimble " "Wed, 07 Jan 2015 13:26:44 +0000" "<87lhleyb57.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "" 4906 55 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85444" nil] ([85446 "Re: saving \"sent\" to just one folder?" "Eric S Fraga " "Wed, 7 Jan 2015 15:02:27 +0000" "<874ms2y6po.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<87lhleyb57.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 5290 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85446" nil])) ([85448 "Sorting threaded articles on top of summary" "Ivan Kanis " "Thu, 08 Jan 2015 09:11:36 +0100" "<87a91tpu87.fsf@kanis.fr>" "" 5871 41 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85448" nil] ([85451 "Re: Sorting threaded articles on top of summary" "Eric S Fraga " "Thu, 8 Jan 2015 16:20:41 +0000" "<87wq4xfdly.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<87a91tpu87.fsf@kanis.fr>" 5289 21 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85451" nil])) ([85449 "local mailing list? I think so, but how?" "Sharon Kimble " "Thu, 08 Jan 2015 15:22:38 +0000" "<871tn547r5.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "" 5173 56 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85449" nil] ([85452 "Re: local mailing list? I think so, but how?" "Eric S Fraga " "Thu, 8 Jan 2015 16:26:27 +0000" "<87siflfdcc.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<871tn547r5.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 5009 16 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85452" nil])) ([85450 "Gnus attempting to move mail from /var/spool/mail" "Harry Putnam " "Thu, 08 Jan 2015 10:42:57 -0500" "<87wq4x9t32.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "" 8202 124 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85450" nil] ([85453 "Re: Gnus attempting to move mail from /var/spool/mail" "Dan Christensen " "Thu, 08 Jan 2015 13:10:33 -0500" "<878uhdqh2e.fsf@uwo.ca>" "<87wq4x9t32.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 3355 13 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85453" nil] ([85456 "Re: Gnus attempting to move mail from /var/spool/mail" "Harry Putnam " "Thu, 08 Jan 2015 21:35:14 -0500" "<874ms0r89p.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87wq4x9t32.fsf@reader.local.lan> <878uhdqh2e.fsf@uwo.ca>" 3819 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85456" nil] ([85460 "Re: Gnus attempting to move mail from /var/spool/mail" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Fri, 09 Jan 2015 20:19:47 +0100" "<87ppanvk18.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87wq4x9t32.fsf@reader.local.lan> <878uhdqh2e.fsf@uwo.ca> <874ms0r89p.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 4360 30 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85460" nil] ([85462 "Re: Gnus attempting to move mail from /var/spool/mail" "Harry Putnam " "Sun, 11 Jan 2015 09:42:42 -0500" "<871tn1pee5.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87wq4x9t32.fsf@reader.local.lan> <878uhdqh2e.fsf@uwo.ca> <874ms0r89p.fsf@reader.local.lan> <87ppanvk18.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 3973 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85462" nil] ([85464 "Re: Gnus attempting to move mail from /var/spool/mail" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Sun, 11 Jan 2015 15:48:19 +0100" "<87vbkdnzkc.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87wq4x9t32.fsf@reader.local.lan> <878uhdqh2e.fsf@uwo.ca> <874ms0r89p.fsf@reader.local.lan> <87ppanvk18.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <871tn1pee5.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 3895 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85464" nil]))))) ([85454 "Re: Gnus attempting to move mail from /var/spool/mail" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Thu, 08 Jan 2015 20:38:48 +0100" "<87mw5t3vw7.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87wq4x9t32.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 3799 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85454" nil] ([85455 "Re: Gnus attempting to move mail from /var/spool/mail" "Harry Putnam " "Thu, 08 Jan 2015 21:22:38 -0500" "<87d26oae1d.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87wq4x9t32.fsf@reader.local.lan> <87mw5t3vw7.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 3440 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85455" nil] ([85459 "Re: Gnus attempting to move mail from /var/spool/mail" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Fri, 09 Jan 2015 20:11:15 +0100" "<871tn3wyzw.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87wq4x9t32.fsf@reader.local.lan> <87mw5t3vw7.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87d26oae1d.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 4099 27 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85459" nil] ([85463 "Re: Gnus attempting to move mail from /var/spool/mail" "Harry Putnam " "Sun, 11 Jan 2015 09:43:51 -0500" "<87wq4tnzrs.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87wq4x9t32.fsf@reader.local.lan> <87mw5t3vw7.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87d26oae1d.fsf@reader.local.lan> <871tn3wyzw.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 3782 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85463" nil]))))) ([85465 "[OT ssh -Y] Attempting to start emacsclient .. unusual error?" "Harry Putnam " "Sun, 11 Jan 2015 09:55:40 -0500" "<87sifhnz83.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "" 3810 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85465" nil] ([85466 "Re: [OT ssh -Y] Attempting to start emacsclient .. unusual error?" "Andreas Schwab " "Sun, 11 Jan 2015 17:12:41 +0100" "<87387hthxi.fsf@igel.home>" "<87sifhnz83.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 3773 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85466" nil] ([85470 "Re: [OT ssh -Y] Attempting to start emacsclient .. unusual error?" "Harry Putnam " "Sun, 11 Jan 2015 16:31:02 -0500" "<87lhl9m2cp.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87sifhnz83.fsf@reader.local.lan> <87387hthxi.fsf@igel.home>" 3514 16 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85470" nil]) ([85471 "Re: [OT ssh -Y] Attempting to start emacsclient .. unusual error?" "Harry Putnam " "Sun, 11 Jan 2015 16:37:44 -0500" "<87h9vxm21j.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87sifhnz83.fsf@reader.local.lan> <87387hthxi.fsf@igel.home>" 5328 59 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85471" nil])) ([85472 "Re: [OT ssh -Y] Attempting to start emacsclient .. unusual error?" "Mike Kupfer " "Sun, 11 Jan 2015 19:39:28 -0800" "<26348.1421033968@allegro.localdomain>" "<87sifhnz83.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 3885 32 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85472" nil] ([85481 "Re: [OT ssh -Y] Attempting to start emacsclient .. unusual error?" "Harry Putnam " "Mon, 12 Jan 2015 13:39:43 -0500" "<87k30r93k9.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "<87sifhnz83.fsf@reader.local.lan> <26348.1421033968@allegro.localdomain>" 4210 31 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85481" nil]))) ([85467 "Article mode for raw email message?" "Peter Davis " "Sun, 11 Jan 2015 14:10:36 -0500" "" "" 3512 19 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85467" nil] ([85468 "Re: Article mode for raw email message?" "david.goldberg6@verizon.net (Dave Goldberg)" "Sun, 11 Jan 2015 14:34:27 -0500" "<84mw5paz7g.fsf@davestoy.home>" "" 3977 19 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85468" nil] ([85474 "Re: Article mode for raw email message?" "Peter Davis " "Mon, 12 Jan 2015 07:20:19 -0500" "" " <84mw5paz7g.fsf@davestoy.home>" 4487 27 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85474" nil])) ([85469 "Re: Article mode for raw email message?" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Sun, 11 Jan 2015 20:51:33 +0100" "<87iogdnliy.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "" 4395 40 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85469" nil] ([85475 "Re: Article mode for raw email message?" "Peter Davis " "Mon, 12 Jan 2015 07:22:34 -0500" "" " <87iogdnliy.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 4581 39 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85475" nil] ([85476 "Re: Article mode for raw email message?" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Mon, 12 Jan 2015 15:23:26 +0100" "<87k30s3wo1.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" " <87iogdnliy.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> " 4030 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85476" nil] ([85477 "Re: Article mode for raw email message?" "Peter Davis " "Mon, 12 Jan 2015 09:34:12 -0500" "" " <87iogdnliy.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87k30s3wo1.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 4838 34 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85477" nil] ([85478 "Re: Article mode for raw email message?" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Mon, 12 Jan 2015 18:43:46 +0100" "<87twzv3ne5.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" " <87iogdnliy.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87k30s3wo1.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> " 4229 23 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85478" nil]))))) ([85482 "Re: Article mode for raw email message?" "Peter Davis " "Tue, 13 Jan 2015 10:22:28 -0500" "<20150113152227.GB33607@pdavismbp15.iscinternal.com>" "" 4625 35 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85482" nil])) ([85486 "importing PGP keys" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Tue, 20 Jan 2015 18:45:57 +0800" "<87d269ohlm.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "" 3447 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85486" nil] ([85488 "Re: importing PGP keys" "Greg Troxel " "Tue, 20 Jan 2015 05:49:41 -0500" "" "<87d269ohlm.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 4014 41 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85488" nil] ([85491 "Re: importing PGP keys" "Russ Allbery " "Tue, 20 Jan 2015 22:29:10 -0800" "<87mw5csl3d.fsf@hope.eyrie.org>" "<87d269ohlm.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> " 3536 21 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85491" nil] ([85492 "Re: importing PGP keys" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Wed, 21 Jan 2015 15:03:10 +0800" "<877fwghaz5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87d269ohlm.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw5csl3d.fsf@hope.eyrie.org>" 4386 32 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85492" nil] ([85493 "Re: importing PGP keys" "Jens Lechtenboerger " "Wed, 21 Jan 2015 14:03:51 +0100" "<861tmo1e14.fsf@informationelle-selbstbestimmung-im-internet.de>" "<87d269ohlm.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw5csl3d.fsf@hope.eyrie.org> <877fwghaz5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 4628 36 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85493" nil] ([85494 "Re: importing PGP keys" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Wed, 21 Jan 2015 21:36:54 +0800" "<87lhkwfe6h.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87d269ohlm.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw5csl3d.fsf@hope.eyrie.org> <877fwghaz5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <861tmo1e14.fsf@informationelle-selbstbestimmung-im-internet.de>" 4905 47 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85494" nil])))))) ([85487 "problems in sending out emails" "Sharon Kimble " "Tue, 20 Jan 2015 13:12:26 +0000" "<87egqpy4sl.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "" 5448 71 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85487" nil] ([85489 "Re: problems in sending out emails" "Steinar Bang " "Tue, 20 Jan 2015 18:21:14 +0100" "" "<87egqpy4sl.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 3449 13 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85489" nil]) ([85490 "Re: problems in sending out emails" "" "Tue, 20 Jan 2015 18:03:48 +0000" "<87ppa9qqgr.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<87egqpy4sl.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 4596 12 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85490" nil] ([85502 "Re: problems in sending out emails" "Sharon Kimble " "Thu, 22 Jan 2015 18:45:02 +0000" "<87egqmac41.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "<87egqpy4sl.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87ppa9qqgr.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 4539 41 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85502" nil]))) ([85495 "nnimap: article list is not correct." "Uwe Brauer " "Wed, 21 Jan 2015 15:07:47 +0100" "<87wq4gz0p8.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" "" 12311 146 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85495" nil] ([85497 "Re: nnimap: article list is not correct." "" "Wed, 21 Jan 2015 15:41:50 +0000" "<87bnlskuo1.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<87wq4gz0p8.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 4722 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85497" nil] ([85498 "Re: nnimap: article list is not correct." "Uwe Brauer " "Wed, 21 Jan 2015 18:39:53 +0100" "<87oapsc9sm.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" "<87wq4gz0p8.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87bnlskuo1.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 12203 142 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85498" nil] ([85500 "Re: nnimap: article list is not correct." "Steinar Bang " "Wed, 21 Jan 2015 22:00:28 +0100" "" "<87wq4gz0p8.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87bnlskuo1.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87oapsc9sm.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 4226 36 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85500" nil] ([85501 "Re: nnimap: article list is not correct." "Uwe Brauer " "Wed, 21 Jan 2015 23:22:37 +0100" "<87k30fhiz6.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" "<87wq4gz0p8.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87bnlskuo1.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87oapsc9sm.fsf@mat.ucm.es> " 12671 150 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85501" nil]))))) ([85499 "gmail: can't visited the starred group" "Uwe Brauer " "Wed, 21 Jan 2015 18:41:46 +0100" "<87k30gc9ph.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" "" 13263 160 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85499" nil] ([85505 "Re: gmail: can't visited the starred group" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Sun, 25 Jan 2015 14:52:32 +1100" "<87wq4b5xfj.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87k30gc9ph.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 3191 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85505" nil] ([85591 "Re: gmail: can't visited the starred group" "Uwe Brauer " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 15:45:18 +0100" "<87egqg470h.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" "<87k30gc9ph.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87wq4b5xfj.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 12713 156 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85591" nil]))) ([85503 "Outdated manual on www.gnus.org" "halimsrama@gmail.com (Naim, Halim.)" "Thu, 22 Jan 2015 18:38:20 -0430" "<87y4ouza57.fsf@gmail.com>" "" 3911 13 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85503" nil] ([85504 "Re: Outdated manual on www.gnus.org" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Sun, 25 Jan 2015 14:44:24 +1100" "<87386z7cdj.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87y4ouza57.fsf@gmail.com>" 3707 12 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85504" nil])) ([85592 "How do I make a new message html washer?" "joakim@verona.se" "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:02:07 +0100" "" "" 3232 10 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85592" nil] ([85593 "Re: How do I make a new message html washer?" "Andreas Schwab " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 22:20:48 +0100" "<87386v9az3.fsf@igel.home>" "" 4083 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85593" nil] ([85596 "Re: How do I make a new message html washer?" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 11:48:31 +1100" "<87iofr20io.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87386v9az3.fsf@igel.home>" 3510 19 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85596" nil]))) ([85602 "git am/send-email support?" "Daiki Ueno " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 12:55:08 +0900" "" "" 2740 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85602" nil] ([85648 "Re: git am/send-email support?" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 13:23:51 +1100" "<87vbjqmiiw.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "" 3169 13 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85648" nil] ([85656 "Re: git am/send-email support?" "Daiki Ueno " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 18:05:57 +0900" "" " <87vbjqmiiw.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3356 23 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85656" nil] ([85666 "Re: git am/send-email support?" "David Engster " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 20:53:51 +0100" "<87386t9xdc.fsf@randomsample.de>" " <87vbjqmiiw.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 4759 55 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85666" nil] ([85689 "Re: git am/send-email support?" "Daiki Ueno " "Mon, 02 Feb 2015 17:11:29 +0900" "<877fw0lolq.fsf-ueno@gnu.org>" " <87vbjqmiiw.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87386t9xdc.fsf@randomsample.de>" 3538 34 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85689" nil])) ([85672 "Re: git am/send-email support?" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Fri, 30 Jan 2015 10:37:48 +1100" "<87r3udyx83.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87vbjqmiiw.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3397 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85672" nil])))) ([85631 "address and name from posting styles are ignored" "Vitalie Spinu " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 12:24:43 +0100" "<87twzbrvus.fsf@gmail.com>" "" 3387 23 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85631" nil] ([85634 "Re: address and name from posting styles are ignored" "Robert Pluim " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 18:19:47 +0100" "<82d25yoma4.fsf@gmail.com>" "<87twzbrvus.fsf@gmail.com>" 4012 34 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85634" nil])) ([85652 "latest imap changes break refiling" "Alan Schmitt " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 09:02:40 +0100" "" "" 4699 57 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85652" nil] ([85653 "Re: latest imap changes break refiling" "Alan Schmitt " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 09:04:33 +0100" "" "" 4056 34 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85653" nil]) ([85654 "Re: latest imap changes break refiling" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 19:06:58 +1100" "<87a9123t99.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "" 3698 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85654" nil] ([85655 "Re: latest imap changes break refiling" "Alan Schmitt " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 09:51:06 +0100" "" " <87a9123t99.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4897 53 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85655" nil] ([85657 "Re: latest imap changes break refiling" "Alan Schmitt " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 11:18:29 +0100" "" " <87a9123t99.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 5007 55 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85657" nil] ([85658 "Re: latest imap changes break refiling" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 22:08:18 +1100" "<87iofp3kv1.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87a9123t99.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3473 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85658" nil] ([85659 "Re: latest imap changes break refiling" "Alan Schmitt " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 13:03:26 +0100" "" " <87a9123t99.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87iofp3kv1.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4560 47 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85659" nil] ([85724 "Re: latest imap changes break refiling" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 13:29:34 +1100" "<87sielw0oh.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87a9123t99.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87iofp3kv1.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3293 11 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85724" nil] ([85748 "Re: latest imap changes break refiling" "Alan Schmitt " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 10:26:42 +0100" "" " <87a9123t99.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87iofp3kv1.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87sielw0oh.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 8357 108 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85748" nil] ([85774 "Re: latest imap changes break refiling" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Fri, 13 Feb 2015 17:23:36 +1100" "<87vbj6fhxz.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87a9123t99.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87iofp3kv1.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87sielw0oh.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3485 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85774" nil] ([85779 "Re: latest imap changes break refiling" "Alan Schmitt " "Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:34:35 +0100" "" " <87a9123t99.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87iofp3kv1.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87sielw0oh.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbj6fhxz.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 8064 121 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85779" nil] ([85799 "Re: latest imap changes break refiling" "Alan Schmitt " "Sat, 21 Feb 2015 10:40:29 +0100" "" " <87a9123t99.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87iofp3kv1.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87sielw0oh.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbj6fhxz.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 4849 48 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85799" nil])))))))) ([85662 "Re: latest imap changes break refiling" "Alan Schmitt " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 11:19:33 +0100" "" " <87a9123t99.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 5009 55 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85662" nil])))) ([85660 "[A bit OT] Text usenet server ?" "Xavier Maillard " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 13:18:50 +0100" "" "" 4370 28 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85660" nil] ([85661 "Re: [A bit OT] Text usenet server ?" "Charles Philip Chan " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 08:01:56 -0500" "<87k305kaez.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem>" "" 3942 31 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85661" nil] ([85667 "Re: [A bit OT] Text usenet server ?" "Xavier Maillard " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 22:17:00 +0100" "" " <87k305kaez.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem>" 4303 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85667" nil])) ([85663 "Re: [A bit OT] Text usenet server ?" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 18:57:06 +0100" "<87mw51pj0t.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "" 4154 29 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85663" nil]) ([85664 "Re: [A bit OT] Text usenet server ?" "Harry Putnam " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 13:13:11 -0500" "<87k305e9qg.fsf@reader.local.lan>" "" 3406 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85664" nil])) ([85678 "Why doesn't this render in gnus shr/eww?" "Steinar Bang " "Fri, 30 Jan 2015 21:30:47 +0100" "<87k3043tag.fsf@dod.no>" "" 4120 27 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85678" nil] ([85680 "Re: Why doesn't this render in gnus shr/eww?" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Sat, 31 Jan 2015 00:51:27 +0100" "<87wq43su80.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87k3043tag.fsf@dod.no>" 3977 21 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85680" nil]) ([85681 "Re: Why doesn't this render in gnus shr/eww?" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Sat, 31 Jan 2015 11:49:26 +1100" "<87zj8zu63t.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87k3043tag.fsf@dod.no>" 3125 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85681" nil] ([85683 "Re: Why doesn't this render in gnus shr/eww?" "Steinar Bang " "Sat, 31 Jan 2015 15:02:41 +0100" "" "<87k3043tag.fsf@dod.no> <87zj8zu63t.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4578 37 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85683" nil] ([85733 "Re: Why doesn't this render in gnus shr/eww?" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 14:37:30 +1100" "<87fval111h.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87k3043tag.fsf@dod.no> <87zj8zu63t.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3909 33 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85733" nil] ([85753 "Re: Why doesn't this render in gnus shr/eww?" "Steinar Bang " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 18:19:00 +0100" "" "<87k3043tag.fsf@dod.no> <87zj8zu63t.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87fval111h.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3363 9 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85753" nil] ([85754 "Re: Why doesn't this render in gnus shr/eww?" "Steinar Bang " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 21:24:14 +0100" "" "<87k3043tag.fsf@dod.no> <87zj8zu63t.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87fval111h.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3507 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85754" nil] ([85757 "Re: Why doesn't this render in gnus shr/eww?" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Fri, 06 Feb 2015 21:03:35 +1100" "<87wq3vicg8.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87k3043tag.fsf@dod.no> <87zj8zu63t.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87fval111h.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3155 11 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85757" nil]))))))) ([85682 "Gnus gets terribly slow when exiting high-traffic groups" "Jason L Tibbitts III " "Fri, 30 Jan 2015 19:54:08 -0600" "" "" 3688 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85682" nil] ([85732 "Re: Gnus gets terribly slow when exiting high-traffic groups" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 14:30:45 +1100" "<87k2zx11cq.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "" 3547 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85732" nil] ([85735 "Re: Gnus gets terribly slow when exiting high-traffic groups" "Jason L Tibbitts III " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 21:38:19 -0600" "" " <87k2zx11cq.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 2962 10 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85735" nil] ([85736 "Re: Gnus gets terribly slow when exiting high-traffic groups" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 14:47:31 +1100" "<87sielyq7g.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87k2zx11cq.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3716 22 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85736" nil] ([85737 "Re: Gnus gets terribly slow when exiting high-traffic groups" "Jason L Tibbitts III " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 22:06:21 -0600" "" " <87k2zx11cq.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87sielyq7g.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3862 36 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85737" nil] ([85742 "Re: Gnus gets terribly slow when exiting high-traffic groups" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 15:51:28 +1100" "<877fvxyn8v.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87k2zx11cq.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87sielyq7g.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3957 35 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85742" nil] ([85743 "Re: Gnus gets terribly slow when exiting high-traffic groups" "Jason L Tibbitts III " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 00:12:39 -0600" "" " <87k2zx11cq.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87sielyq7g.fsf@building.gnus.org> <877fvxyn8v.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3690 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85743" nil] ([85744 "Re: Gnus gets terribly slow when exiting high-traffic groups" "Jason L Tibbitts III " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 00:18:05 -0600" "" " <87k2zx11cq.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87sielyq7g.fsf@building.gnus.org> <877fvxyn8v.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3210 8 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85744" nil]) ([85745 "Re: Gnus gets terribly slow when exiting high-traffic groups" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 17:23:47 +1100" "<871tm4zxjg.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87k2zx11cq.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87sielyq7g.fsf@building.gnus.org> <877fvxyn8v.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3653 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85745" nil] ([85747 "Re: Gnus gets terribly slow when exiting high-traffic groups" "Jason L Tibbitts III " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 00:39:29 -0600" "" " <87k2zx11cq.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87sielyq7g.fsf@building.gnus.org> <877fvxyn8v.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tm4zxjg.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4081 33 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85747" nil] ([85755 "Re: Gnus gets terribly slow when exiting high-traffic groups" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Fri, 06 Feb 2015 11:42:53 +1100" "<878ugbvpiq.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87k2zx11cq.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87sielyq7g.fsf@building.gnus.org> <877fvxyn8v.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tm4zxjg.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3963 27 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85755" nil] ([85756 "Re: Gnus gets terribly slow when exiting high-traffic groups" "Jason L Tibbitts III " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 18:47:15 -0600" "" " <87k2zx11cq.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87sielyq7g.fsf@building.gnus.org> <877fvxyn8v.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tm4zxjg.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878ugbvpiq.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3580 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85756" nil]))))))))))) ([85686 "Recent nnir update broke search on office365" "david.goldberg6@verizon.net (Dave Goldberg)" "Sat, 31 Jan 2015 11:53:28 -0500" "<84386qhoxj.fsf@davestoy.home>" "" 3524 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85686" nil] ([85687 "Re: Recent nnir update broke search on office365" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Sun, 01 Feb 2015 09:40:28 +0800" "<87r3ua9zoz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<84386qhoxj.fsf@davestoy.home>" 5421 28 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85687" nil]) ([85691 "Re: Recent nnir update broke search on office365" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Sun, 01 Feb 2015 14:22:44 +0800" "<871tma9mmj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<84386qhoxj.fsf@davestoy.home>" 6590 67 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85691" nil] ([85701 "Re: Recent nnir update broke search on office365" "Eric S Fraga " "Tue, 3 Feb 2015 11:49:00 +0000" "<87k2zzdxlf.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk>" "<84386qhoxj.fsf@davestoy.home> <871tma9mmj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 5112 31 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85701" nil] ([85702 "Re: Recent nnir update broke search on office365" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Tue, 03 Feb 2015 21:01:41 +0800" "<87egq79miy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<84386qhoxj.fsf@davestoy.home> <871tma9mmj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k2zzdxlf.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk>" 5712 33 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85702" nil] ([85703 "Re: Recent nnir update broke search on office365" "" "Tue, 3 Feb 2015 15:57:08 +0000" "<87iofj7zu3.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<84386qhoxj.fsf@davestoy.home> <871tma9mmj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k2zzdxlf.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87egq79miy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 4682 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85703" nil] ([85705 "Re: Recent nnir update broke search on office365" "david.goldberg6@verizon.net (Dave Goldberg)" "Tue, 03 Feb 2015 18:21:36 -0500" "<84mw4utwcf.fsf@davestoy.home>" "<84386qhoxj.fsf@davestoy.home> <871tma9mmj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k2zzdxlf.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87egq79miy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87iofj7zu3.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 3695 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85705" nil] ([85707 "Re: Recent nnir update broke search on office365" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 11:02:12 +0800" "<87oapa8jm3.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<84386qhoxj.fsf@davestoy.home> <871tma9mmj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k2zzdxlf.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87egq79miy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87iofj7zu3.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <84mw4utwcf.fsf@davestoy.home>" 5179 19 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85707" nil] ([85710 "Re: Recent nnir update broke search on office365" "Eric S Fraga " "Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:30:31 +0000" "<87mw4uarzs.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk>" "<84386qhoxj.fsf@davestoy.home> <871tma9mmj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k2zzdxlf.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87egq79miy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87iofj7zu3.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <84mw4utwcf.fsf@davestoy.home> <87oapa8jm3.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 4775 11 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85710" nil])))))) ([85706 "Re: Recent nnir update broke search on office365" "Katsumi Yamaoka " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 09:15:19 +0900" "" "<84386qhoxj.fsf@davestoy.home> <871tma9mmj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 3969 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85706" nil] ([85708 "Re: Recent nnir update broke search on office365" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 11:30:52 +0800" "<87k2zy8iab.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<84386qhoxj.fsf@davestoy.home> <871tma9mmj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> " 6166 44 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85708" nil] ([85715 "Re: Recent nnir update broke search on office365" "Andreas Schwab " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 19:28:24 +0100" "<87mw4ta5vb.fsf@igel.home>" "<84386qhoxj.fsf@davestoy.home> <871tma9mmj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k2zy8iab.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 4300 22 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85715" nil] ([85723 "Re: Recent nnir update broke search on office365" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 09:03:36 +0800" "<8761bhrwyf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<84386qhoxj.fsf@davestoy.home> <871tma9mmj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k2zy8iab.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw4ta5vb.fsf@igel.home>" 5244 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85723" nil])))))) ([85692 "Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Vincent Bernat " "Tue, 03 Feb 2015 00:18:54 +0100" "" "" 3743 13 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85692" nil] ([85694 "Re: Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Steinar Bang " "Tue, 03 Feb 2015 07:42:22 +0100" "" "" 3550 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85694" nil] ([85695 "Re: Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Vincent Bernat " "Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:40:47 +0100" "" " " 4679 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85695" nil] ([85696 "Re: Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Vincent Bernat " "Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:44:31 +0100" "" " " 5202 42 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85696" nil]) ([85697 "Re: Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Steinar Bang " "Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:05:23 +0100" "" " " 4008 30 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85697" nil] ([85698 "Re: Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Tassilo Horn " "Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:17:47 +0100" "<87h9v38l3o.fsf@gnu.org>" " " 3142 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85698" nil]) ([85699 "Re: Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Vincent Bernat " "Tue, 03 Feb 2015 10:09:56 +0100" "<87oapbe4yj.fsf@zoro.exoscale.ch>" " " 4523 19 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85699" nil] ([85700 "Re: Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Steinar Bang " "Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:54:48 +0100" "" " <87oapbe4yj.fsf@zoro.exoscale.ch>" 3619 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85700" nil] ([85704 "Re: Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Vincent Bernat " "Tue, 03 Feb 2015 21:52:55 +0100" "" " <87oapbe4yj.fsf@zoro.exoscale.ch> " 4845 28 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85704" nil] ([85709 "Re: Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Steinar Bang " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 07:28:34 +0100" "" " <87oapbe4yj.fsf@zoro.exoscale.ch> " 3652 12 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85709" nil] ([85716 "Re: Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Vincent Bernat " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 21:48:27 +0100" "" " <87oapbe4yj.fsf@zoro.exoscale.ch> " 4769 34 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85716" nil] ([85718 "Re: Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Steinar Bang " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 22:10:14 +0100" "" " <87oapbe4yj.fsf@zoro.exoscale.ch> " 3791 21 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85718" nil]) ([85719 "Re: Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Vincent Bernat " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 22:11:03 +0100" "" " <87oapbe4yj.fsf@zoro.exoscale.ch> " 6341 92 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85719" nil] ([85720 "Re: Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Vincent Bernat " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 22:19:35 +0100" "" " <87oapbe4yj.fsf@zoro.exoscale.ch> " 4865 51 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85720" nil] ([85721 "Re: Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Vincent Bernat " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 22:35:00 +0100" "" " <87oapbe4yj.fsf@zoro.exoscale.ch> " 5246 56 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85721" nil] ([85728 "Re: Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 14:10:44 +1100" "<87a90tvyrv.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87oapbe4yj.fsf@zoro.exoscale.ch> " 3435 12 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85728" nil] ([85746 "Re: Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Vincent Bernat " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 07:27:58 +0100" "" " <87oapbe4yj.fsf@zoro.exoscale.ch> <87a90tvyrv.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4011 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85746" nil])))) ([85727 "Re: Unable to get all messages in an IMAP group" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 14:06:20 +1100" "<87egq5vyz7.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87oapbe4yj.fsf@zoro.exoscale.ch> " 3652 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85727" nil]))))))))))) ([85693 "Unable to see all messages since recent IMAP changes" "Vincent Bernat " "Tue, 03 Feb 2015 00:19:25 +0100" "" "" 3796 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85693" nil]) ([85758 "Gnus Own-Cloudy?" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Tue, 10 Feb 2015 14:05:08 +0800" "<87iofawbcb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "" 5231 31 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85758" nil] ([85759 "Re: Gnus Own-Cloudy?" "Eric S Fraga " "Tue, 10 Feb 2015 09:17:25 +0000" "<87twyu6s7u.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<87iofawbcb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 5221 23 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85759" nil] ([85760 "Re: Gnus Own-Cloudy?" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Tue, 10 Feb 2015 18:20:48 +0800" "<87mw4mukxr.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87iofawbcb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87twyu6s7u.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 5971 39 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85760" nil] ([85761 "Re: Gnus Own-Cloudy?" "Eric S Fraga " "Tue, 10 Feb 2015 10:48:37 +0000" "<87wq3qm48q.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<87iofawbcb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87twyu6s7u.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw4mukxr.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 6597 62 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85761" nil] ([85762 "Re: Gnus Own-Cloudy?" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Tue, 10 Feb 2015 18:53:33 +0800" "<874mquujf6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87iofawbcb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87twyu6s7u.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw4mukxr.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wq3qm48q.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 6996 69 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85762" nil] ([85763 "Re: Gnus Own-Cloudy?" "Eric S Fraga " "Tue, 10 Feb 2015 11:45:49 +0000" "<87lhk6kn0y.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<87iofawbcb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87twyu6s7u.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw4mukxr.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wq3qm48q.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <874mquujf6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 5398 30 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85763" nil] ([85766 "Re: Gnus Own-Cloudy?" "jorge.alfaro-murillo@yale.edu (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo)" "Tue, 10 Feb 2015 10:19:19 -0500" "<877fvpokug.fsf@yale.edu>" "<87iofawbcb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87twyu6s7u.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw4mukxr.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wq3qm48q.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <874mquujf6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhk6kn0y.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 3552 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85766" nil]) ([85768 "Re: Gnus Own-Cloudy?" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Wed, 11 Feb 2015 10:12:03 +0800" "<87iof9tcwc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87iofawbcb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87twyu6s7u.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw4mukxr.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wq3qm48q.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <874mquujf6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhk6kn0y.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 5981 32 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85768" nil] ([85769 "Re: Gnus Own-Cloudy?" "Eric S Fraga " "Wed, 11 Feb 2015 11:12:40 +0000" "<87zj8kn1lj.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk>" "<87iofawbcb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87twyu6s7u.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw4mukxr.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wq3qm48q.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <874mquujf6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhk6kn0y.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87iof9tcwc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 5070 22 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85769" nil]) ([85770 "Re: Gnus Own-Cloudy?" "Dan Christensen " "Wed, 11 Feb 2015 08:48:54 -0500" "<87vbj8tv7d.fsf@uwo.ca>" "<87iofawbcb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87twyu6s7u.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw4mukxr.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wq3qm48q.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <874mquujf6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhk6kn0y.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87iof9tcwc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 4438 28 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85770" nil] ([85772 "Re: Gnus Own-Cloudy?" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:26:43 +0800" "<87a90i4c18.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87iofawbcb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87twyu6s7u.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw4mukxr.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wq3qm48q.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <874mquujf6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhk6kn0y.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87iof9tcwc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87vbj8tv7d.fsf@uwo.ca>" 8015 72 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85772" nil] ([85773 "Re: Gnus Own-Cloudy?" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:52:35 +0800" "<87zj8ipdcs.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87iofawbcb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87twyu6s7u.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw4mukxr.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wq3qm48q.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <874mquujf6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhk6kn0y.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87iof9tcwc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87vbj8tv7d.fsf@uwo.ca> <87a90i4c18.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 9748 107 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85773" nil]) ([85780 "Re: Gnus Own-Cloudy?" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Fri, 13 Feb 2015 22:57:30 +0800" "<87k2zlq2p1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87iofawbcb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87twyu6s7u.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw4mukxr.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wq3qm48q.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <874mquujf6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhk6kn0y.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87iof9tcwc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87vbj8tv7d.fsf@uwo.ca> <87a90i4c18.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 7340 57 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85780" nil]) ([85785 "Re: Gnus Own-Cloudy?" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Sat, 14 Feb 2015 21:48:01 +0800" "<874mqomwoe.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87iofawbcb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87twyu6s7u.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw4mukxr.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wq3qm48q.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <874mquujf6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhk6kn0y.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87iof9tcwc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87vbj8tv7d.fsf@uwo.ca> <87a90i4c18.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 7256 63 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85785" nil] ([85787 "[PATCH] Re: Gnus Own-Cloudy?" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Wed, 18 Feb 2015 19:12:45 +0800" "<878ufv79si.fsf_-_@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87iofawbcb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87twyu6s7u.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw4mukxr.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wq3qm48q.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <874mquujf6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhk6kn0y.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87iof9tcwc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87vbj8tv7d.fsf@uwo.ca> <87a90i4c18.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874mqomwoe.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 8853 89 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85787" nil])))))))))) ([85767 "Re: Gnus Own-Cloudy?" "jorge.alfaro-murillo@yale.edu (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo)" "Tue, 10 Feb 2015 10:31:00 -0500" "<87386dokaz.fsf@yale.edu>" "<87iofawbcb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 3924 32 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85767" nil])) ([85764 "Gnus mailing list support" "Erik Colson " "Tue, 10 Feb 2015 15:43:01 +0100" "" "" 2753 16 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85764" nil] ([85777 "Re: Gnus mailing list support" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Fri, 13 Feb 2015 17:56:13 +1100" "<87iof6fgfm.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "" 3326 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85777" nil] ([85782 "Re: Gnus mailing list support" "Jason L Tibbitts III " "Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:30:13 -0600" "" " <87iof6fgfm.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3008 11 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85782" nil] ([85783 "Re: Gnus mailing list support" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Sat, 14 Feb 2015 15:23:13 +1100" "<87twypglzi.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87iof6fgfm.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3462 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85783" nil] ([85784 "Re: Gnus mailing list support" "Erik Colson " "Sat, 14 Feb 2015 08:52:26 +0100" "" " <87iof6fgfm.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87twypglzi.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 2954 10 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85784" nil]))))) ([85765 "moving a group from one Imap backend to another" "Erik Colson " "Tue, 10 Feb 2015 15:44:24 +0100" "" "" 2585 11 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85765" nil] ([85776 "Re: moving a group from one Imap backend to another" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Fri, 13 Feb 2015 17:57:39 +1100" "<87egpufgd8.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "" 3303 16 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85776" nil] ([85778 "Re: moving a group from one Imap backend to another" "Erik Colson " "Fri, 13 Feb 2015 09:25:08 +0100" "" " <87egpufgd8.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3898 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85778" nil] ([85781 "Re: moving a group from one Imap backend to another" "Jason L Tibbitts III " "Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:29:14 -0600" "" " <87egpufgd8.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3327 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85781" nil] ([85808 "Re: moving a group from one Imap backend to another" "Alexander Baier " "Tue, 24 Feb 2015 10:38:41 +0100" "<87y4nnps2m.fsf@mailbox.org>" " <87egpufgd8.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 5094 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85808" nil]))))) ([85789 "shr output unreadable" "Jason L Tibbitts III " "Wed, 18 Feb 2015 12:12:21 -0600" "" "" 3023 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85789" nil] ([85790 "Re: shr output unreadable" "Jason L Tibbitts III " "Wed, 18 Feb 2015 12:17:00 -0600" "" "" 2816 6 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85790" nil]) ([85792 "Re: shr output unreadable" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:55:42 +1100" "<87egpmjvhd.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "" 3463 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85792" nil] ([85794 "Re: shr output unreadable" "Jason L Tibbitts III " "Thu, 19 Feb 2015 00:27:45 -0600" "" " <87egpmjvhd.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 206433 3777 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85794" nil] ([85795 "Re: shr output unreadable" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Thu, 19 Feb 2015 10:29:45 +0100" "<87a90a1c6u.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" " <87egpmjvhd.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3963 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85795" nil] ([85796 "Re: shr output unreadable" "Jason L Tibbitts III " "Thu, 19 Feb 2015 09:52:59 -0600" "" " <87egpmjvhd.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87a90a1c6u.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 3173 10 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85796" nil] ([85797 "Re: shr output unreadable" "Jason L Tibbitts III " "Thu, 19 Feb 2015 10:54:12 -0600" "" " <87egpmjvhd.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87a90a1c6u.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> " 3048 7 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85797" nil])))))) ([85798 "is nnrss backend searchable?" "Melleus " "Thu, 19 Feb 2015 23:22:46 +0200" "<87zj89a95l.fsf@hornet.workgroup>" "" 4671 9 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85798" nil]) ([85801 "Invalid face attribute" "Peter Münster " "Sun, 22 Feb 2015 18:19:56 +0100" "<87385xq2wz.fsf@free.fr>" "" 3489 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85801" nil] ([85805 "Re: Invalid face attribute" "Katsumi Yamaoka " "Mon, 23 Feb 2015 11:42:00 +0900" "" "<87385xq2wz.fsf@free.fr>" 4460 43 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85805" nil] ([85806 "Re: Invalid face attribute" "Peter Münster " "Mon, 23 Feb 2015 08:50:34 +0100" "<87fv9xjcc5.fsf@free.fr>" "<87385xq2wz.fsf@free.fr> " 4230 36 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85806" nil] ([85807 "Re: Invalid face attribute" "Eric S Fraga " "Mon, 23 Feb 2015 16:39:43 +0000" "<87vbistwds.fsf@delle7240.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk>" "<87385xq2wz.fsf@free.fr> <87fv9xjcc5.fsf@free.fr>" 5410 22 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85807" nil])))) ([85802 "quote chars in article mode" "Clemens Schüller " "Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:25:32 +0100" "<87vbit92ab.fsf@cougar.home.aneadesign.com>" "" 4510 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85802" nil] ([85803 "Re: quote chars in article mode" "Peter Münster " "Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:09:50 +0100" "<87lhjpk8s1.fsf@free.fr>" "<87vbit92ab.fsf@cougar.home.aneadesign.com>" 3356 13 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85803" nil] ([85804 "Re: quote chars in article mode" "Clemens Schüller " "Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:47:01 +0100" "<87h9ud4qt6.fsf@cougar.home.aneadesign.com>" "<87vbit92ab.fsf@cougar.home.aneadesign.com> <87lhjpk8s1.fsf@free.fr>" 5007 26 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85804" nil]))) ([85809 "Downloading large numbers of unwanted k, so sitting and waiting" "Sharon Kimble " "Tue, 24 Feb 2015 10:27:18 +0000" "<87bnkjy589.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "" 5928 42 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85809" nil]) ([85810 "problem when extracting MIME parts" "Adrian Lanz " "Tue, 24 Feb 2015 23:06:39 +0100" "<87a9030xsg.fsf@inventur.wsl.ch>" "" 8086 97 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85810" nil] ([85811 "Re: problem when extracting MIME parts" "Katsumi Yamaoka " "Wed, 25 Feb 2015 11:40:05 +0900" "" "<87a9030xsg.fsf@inventur.wsl.ch>" 3848 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85811" nil])) ([85812 "message-citation-line-format - should %F have a fall back?" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Wed, 25 Feb 2015 21:34:24 +0100" "<87k2z5rar3.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "" 5322 57 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85812" nil] ([85813 "Re: message-citation-line-format - should %F have a fall back?" "Katsumi Yamaoka " "Thu, 26 Feb 2015 09:41:01 +0900" "" "<87k2z5rar3.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 3816 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85813" nil] ([85816 "Re: message-citation-line-format - should %F have a fall back?" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Thu, 26 Feb 2015 23:38:29 +0100" "<87oaog70yi.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87k2z5rar3.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> " 5168 54 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85816" nil]))) ([85814 "deleting instead of expiring mail" "Adrian Lanz " "Thu, 26 Feb 2015 15:17:06 +0100" "" "" 6151 52 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85814" nil] ([85815 "Re: deleting instead of expiring mail" "Adrian Lanz " "Thu, 26 Feb 2015 17:25:50 +0100" "" "" 6845 70 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85815" nil] ([85817 "Re: deleting instead of expiring mail" "Eric S Fraga " "Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:29:31 +0000" "<87ioen1cw4.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk>" " " 4811 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85817" nil]))) ([85818 "Best method to disable TAB in topic-mode?" "Igor Sosa Mayor " "Sat, 28 Feb 2015 15:10:36 +0100" "<87ioem5dpf.fsf@pedroche.home>" "" 3607 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85818" nil] ([85819 "Re: Best method to disable TAB in topic-mode?" "Andreas Schwab " "Sat, 28 Feb 2015 15:29:22 +0100" "<87wq32w1ml.fsf@igel.home>" "<87ioem5dpf.fsf@pedroche.home>" 3736 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85819" nil] ([85820 "Re: Best method to disable TAB in topic-mode?" "Igor Sosa Mayor " "Sat, 28 Feb 2015 18:49:49 +0100" "<87a8zy53k2.fsf@pedroche.home>" "<87ioem5dpf.fsf@pedroche.home> <87wq32w1ml.fsf@igel.home>" 3130 8 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85820" nil] ([85821 "Re: Best method to disable TAB in topic-mode?" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Sun, 01 Mar 2015 11:03:42 +0800" "<87d24tpgfl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87ioem5dpf.fsf@pedroche.home> <87wq32w1ml.fsf@igel.home> <87a8zy53k2.fsf@pedroche.home>" 3459 19 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85821" nil] ([85822 "Re: Best method to disable TAB in topic-mode?" "Igor Sosa Mayor " "Sun, 01 Mar 2015 08:05:04 +0100" "<87zj7x42qn.fsf@pedroche.home>" "<87ioem5dpf.fsf@pedroche.home> <87wq32w1ml.fsf@igel.home> <87a8zy53k2.fsf@pedroche.home> <87d24tpgfl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 3392 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85822" nil]))))) ([85514 "Re: Couldn't store article in group" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 15:07:42 +1100" "<87lhkqjib5.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87d2888b57.fsf@grothesque.org> <874mtjh7n6.fsf@grothesque.org>" 3737 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85514" nil] ([85537 "Re: Couldn't store article in group" "Christoph Groth " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 23:13:18 +0100" "<878ugpp4w1.fsf@grothesque.org>" "<87d2888b57.fsf@grothesque.org> <874mtjh7n6.fsf@grothesque.org> <87lhkqjib5.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4741 70 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85537" nil] ([85538 "Re: Couldn't store article in group" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:50:59 +1100" "<87twzddp1o.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87d2888b57.fsf@grothesque.org> <874mtjh7n6.fsf@grothesque.org> <87lhkqjib5.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878ugpp4w1.fsf@grothesque.org>" 3942 31 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85538" nil] ([85628 "Re: Couldn't store article in group" "Alan Schmitt " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 13:56:05 +0100" "" "<87d2888b57.fsf@grothesque.org> <874mtjh7n6.fsf@grothesque.org> <87lhkqjib5.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878ugpp4w1.fsf@grothesque.org> <87twzddp1o.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4577 47 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85628" nil] ([85641 "Re: Couldn't store article in group" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 12:37:19 +1100" "<87r3uenz8w.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87d2888b57.fsf@grothesque.org> <874mtjh7n6.fsf@grothesque.org> <87lhkqjib5.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878ugpp4w1.fsf@grothesque.org> <87twzddp1o.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3447 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85641" nil]))))) ([85552 "Re: bug: S/MIME and gnus-message-replyencrypt" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 14:07:55 +1100" "<87ppa0c450.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87fvfh71pi.fsf@grothesque.org>" 3602 19 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85552" nil]) ([85553 #("Re: Verbose “security buttonsâ€" 12 30 (charset windows-1252)) "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 14:05:43 +1100" "<87twzcc48o.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87mw9p6nsq.fsf@grothesque.org>" 3486 22 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85553" nil]) ([85554 "Re: [PATCH] Re: SMIME: intermediate certificates are not sent" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 14:11:49 +1100" "<87lhkoc3yi.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87vbof6f2o.fsf@grothesque.org> <87oau7q0al.fsf@grothesque.org>" 3523 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85554" nil]) ([85567 "Re: Soft-wrapping HTML messages" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 16:23:17 +1100" "<87a914ajay.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<874mwp888s.fsf@grothesque.org>" 3289 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85567" nil]) ([85601 "Re: move article painfully slow over imap" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 14:48:30 +1100" "<87fvavzhtd.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87silhgmif.fsf@gmail.com>" 3563 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85601" nil]) ([85615 "Re: mail-header-separator starting with whitespace fails" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 16:49:25 +1100" "<87y4onwj2y.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87r43xvdx3.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> " 4045 31 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85615" nil] ([85624 "Re: mail-header-separator starting with whitespace fails" "Katsumi Yamaoka " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:33:53 +0900" "" "<87r43xvdx3.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> <87y4onwj2y.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3946 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85624" nil] ([85645 "Re: mail-header-separator starting with whitespace fails" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 12:47:30 +1100" "<87bnlinyrx.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87r43xvdx3.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> <87y4onwj2y.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3533 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85645" nil] ([85649 "Re: mail-header-separator starting with whitespace fails" "Katsumi Yamaoka " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 11:31:26 +0900" "" "<87r43xvdx3.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> <87y4onwj2y.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnlinyrx.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3707 11 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85649" nil])))) ([85358 "Re: Capturing outgoing gnus e-mail" "Uwe Brauer " "Sun, 14 Dec 2014 23:58:36 +0100" "<87wq5trg83.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" "<8761k3rivi.fsf@kanis.fr> <87ppekk9wc.fsf@lifelogs.com>" 12278 147 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85358 gmane.emacs.orgmode:93468" nil]) ([85543 "Re: check mtime of newsrc.eld before saving it" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 12:40:40 +1100" "<87twzdc86f.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "" 3604 27 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85543" nil] ([85711 "Re: check mtime of newsrc.eld before saving it" "Ted Zlatanov " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 06:39:44 -0500" "<8761bhzz0f.fsf@lifelogs.com>" " <87twzdc86f.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4735 37 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85711" nil] ([85717 "Re: check mtime of newsrc.eld before saving it" "Steinar Bang " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 22:05:11 +0100" "" " <87twzdc86f.fsf@building.gnus.org> <8761bhzz0f.fsf@lifelogs.com>" 3266 10 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85717" nil] ([85722 "Re: check mtime of newsrc.eld before saving it" "Ted Zlatanov " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 17:40:43 -0500" "<878ugdxpuc.fsf@lifelogs.com>" " <87twzdc86f.fsf@building.gnus.org> <8761bhzz0f.fsf@lifelogs.com> " 3691 13 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85722" nil])) ([85730 "Re: check mtime of newsrc.eld before saving it" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 14:13:09 +1100" "<8761bhvynu.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87twzdc86f.fsf@building.gnus.org> <8761bhzz0f.fsf@lifelogs.com>" 3560 19 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85730" nil] ([85738 "Re: check mtime of newsrc.eld before saving it" "Ted Zlatanov " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 23:08:21 -0500" "<87zj8tvw3u.fsf@lifelogs.com>" " <87twzdc86f.fsf@building.gnus.org> <8761bhzz0f.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8761bhvynu.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4289 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85738" nil] ([85740 "Re: check mtime of newsrc.eld before saving it" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 15:40:53 +1100" "<87fvalynqi.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87twzdc86f.fsf@building.gnus.org> <8761bhzz0f.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8761bhvynu.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87zj8tvw3u.fsf@lifelogs.com>" 3275 13 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85740" nil] ([85749 "Re: check mtime of newsrc.eld before saving it" "Steinar Bang " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 11:49:56 +0100" "" " <87twzdc86f.fsf@building.gnus.org> <8761bhzz0f.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8761bhvynu.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87zj8tvw3u.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fvalynqi.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3585 13 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85749" nil]))))) ([85751 "Re: check mtime of newsrc.eld before saving it" "Ted Zlatanov " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 05:59:43 -0500" "<87k2zwwrmo.fsf@lifelogs.com>" " <87twzdc86f.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3943 21 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85751" nil] ([85775 "Re: check mtime of newsrc.eld before saving it" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Fri, 13 Feb 2015 17:25:58 +1100" "<87r3tufhu1.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87twzdc86f.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87k2zwwrmo.fsf@lifelogs.com>" 3280 16 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85775" nil]))) ([85445 "Re: Performance problem of IMAP move (Gmail)" "Eric S Fraga " "Wed, 7 Jan 2015 14:58:34 +0000" "<878uhey6w5.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" " " 5593 43 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85445" nil]) ([85786 "Re: anti top-posting gnus-article-outlook-rearrange-citation fails for gmail. II" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Wed, 18 Feb 2015 12:07:14 +1100" "<87zj8cauyl.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<874mvp9rcf.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87y4opapse.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87wq3kpkir.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 3725 26 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85786" nil]) ([85359 "Re: Capturing outgoing gnus e-mail" "Uwe Brauer " "Mon, 15 Dec 2014 13:08:29 +0100" "<87a92pxgi5.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" "<8761k3rivi.fsf@kanis.fr> <87mwdfg8tt.fsf@bzg.ath.cx>" 13565 152 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.orgmode:93474 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85359" nil]) ([85522 "Re: gnus-delay fails partially" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 16:03:26 +1100" "<87k30ai15t.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87iojma2iu.fsf@gmail.com>" 3233 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85522" nil]) ([85516 "Re: autoloads only generated on every 2nd make" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 15:13:28 +1100" "<87bnlmji1j.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87wq6qfidr.fsf@thinkpad-t440p.tsdh.org>" 3545 23 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85516" nil] ([85528 "Re: autoloads only generated on every 2nd make" "Tassilo Horn " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 08:15:56 +0100" "<87twze2es3.fsf@gnu.org>" "<87wq6qfidr.fsf@thinkpad-t440p.tsdh.org> <87bnlmji1j.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4773 52 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85528" nil] ([85534 "Re: autoloads only generated on every 2nd make" "Tassilo Horn " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 16:14:10 +0100" "<87oapl1sn1.fsf@gnu.org>" "<87wq6qfidr.fsf@thinkpad-t440p.tsdh.org> <87bnlmji1j.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87twze2es3.fsf@gnu.org>" 3429 21 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85534" nil]))) ([85521 "Re: Non-integer score nil in /home/horn/.gnus.d/News/nntp+Gmane:gmane.emacs.auctex.general.SCORE" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 15:58:09 +1100" "<87oapmi1em.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<874mv514kd.fsf@thinkpad-t440p.tsdh.org>" 3667 26 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85521" nil] ([85526 "Re: Non-integer score nil in /home/horn/.gnus.d/News/nntp+Gmane:gmane.emacs.auctex.general.SCORE" "Tassilo Horn " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 07:59:33 +0100" "<87y4oq2fje.fsf@gnu.org>" "<874mv514kd.fsf@thinkpad-t440p.tsdh.org> <87oapmi1em.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3917 40 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85526" nil])) ([85623 "Re: Need help: Where to debug \"Server closed connection\" opening Gmane NNTP groups with many unread articles on Windows?" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:29:46 +1100" "<871tmfwh7p.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<864n1tzrb6.fsf@dod.no>" 3328 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85623" nil] ([85626 "Re: Need help: Where to debug \"Server closed connection\" opening Gmane NNTP groups with many unread articles on Windows?" "Steinar Bang " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 11:46:37 +0100" "" "<864n1tzrb6.fsf@dod.no> <871tmfwh7p.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4023 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85626" nil])) ([85517 "Re: [PATCH] Accept new TLDs when validating FQDNs" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 15:16:13 +1100" "<877fwajhwy.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<1416048795-30803-1-git-send-email-albert+gnus@zeitkraut.de> " 3565 21 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85517" nil]) ([85327 "Re: merging monthly post-out directories." "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Tue, 09 Dec 2014 19:39:54 +0100" "<87vblkacqt.fsf@koldfront.dk>" "<8761dmasht.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 3771 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85327" nil] ([85332 "Re: merging monthly post-out directories." "Xavier Maillard " "Tue, 09 Dec 2014 22:30:29 +0100" "" "<8761dmasht.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87vblkacqt.fsf@koldfront.dk>" 4223 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85332" nil]) ([85338 "Re: merging monthly post-out directories." "Sharon Kimble " "Wed, 10 Dec 2014 02:36:35 +0000" "<87388o2pp0.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "<8761dmasht.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87vblkacqt.fsf@koldfront.dk>" 5046 49 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85338" nil] ([85339 "Re: merging monthly post-out directories." "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Wed, 10 Dec 2014 11:25:10 +0100" "<87vblj94zd.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<8761dmasht.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87vblkacqt.fsf@koldfront.dk> <87388o2pp0.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 4189 26 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85339" nil] ([85340 "Re: merging monthly post-out directories." "Sharon Kimble " "Wed, 10 Dec 2014 14:20:42 +0000" "<87ppbrwpqd.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "<8761dmasht.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87vblkacqt.fsf@koldfront.dk> <87388o2pp0.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87vblj94zd.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 5276 58 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85340" nil] ([85341 "Re: merging monthly post-out directories." "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Wed, 10 Dec 2014 15:32:55 +0100" "<87ppbr8tig.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<8761dmasht.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87vblkacqt.fsf@koldfront.dk> <87388o2pp0.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87vblj94zd.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87ppbrwpqd.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 4505 36 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85341" nil] ([85342 "Re: merging monthly post-out directories." "Sharon Kimble " "Thu, 11 Dec 2014 02:53:03 +0000" "<87d27qq4mo.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "<8761dmasht.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87vblkacqt.fsf@koldfront.dk> <87388o2pp0.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87vblj94zd.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87ppbrwpqd.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87ppbr8tig.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 5773 74 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85342" nil] ([85343 "Re: merging monthly post-out directories." "Xavier Maillard " "Thu, 11 Dec 2014 06:57:00 +0100" "" "<8761dmasht.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87vblkacqt.fsf@koldfront.dk> <87388o2pp0.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87vblj94zd.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87ppbrwpqd.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87ppbr8tig.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87d27qq4mo.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 4729 44 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85343" nil]) ([85349 "Re: merging monthly post-out directories." "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Fri, 12 Dec 2014 23:02:13 +0100" "<87mw6sfrx6.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<8761dmasht.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87vblkacqt.fsf@koldfront.dk> <87388o2pp0.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87vblj94zd.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87ppbrwpqd.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87ppbr8tig.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87d27qq4mo.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 4939 42 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85349" nil])))) ([85428 "Re: merging monthly post-out directories." "Sharon Kimble " "Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:04:25 +0000" "<87d26u5snq.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" "<8761dmasht.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87vblkacqt.fsf@koldfront.dk> <87388o2pp0.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <87vblj94zd.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 5435 37 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85428" nil])))) ([85575 "Re: unwanted html in email/feeds" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 18:14:19 +1100" "<87iofs8zlg.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87y4u4v80n.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 3433 16 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85575" nil]) ([85577 "Re: nnrss.el brokem" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 18:16:23 +1100" "<87a9148zi0.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87vbpfry65.fsf@skimble.plus.com>" 3430 16 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85577" nil]) ([85360 "Re: [PATCH] Two issues with the gnus-registry" "Ted Zlatanov " "Thu, 18 Dec 2014 05:07:17 -0500" "<87fvcdtgoa.fsf@lifelogs.com>" "<87egtx70hy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wq7lsggo.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87zjchxr1v.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87h9yogjer.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a942lg39.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <8761eqlfvk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw82jdbf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87bnoff9fq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8761ej8fvx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 3837 11 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85360" nil] ([85361 "Re: [PATCH] Two issues with the gnus-registry" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Thu, 18 Dec 2014 23:00:25 +0800" "<87r3vxq9yu.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87egtx70hy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wq7lsggo.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87zjchxr1v.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87h9yogjer.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a942lg39.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <8761eqlfvk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw82jdbf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87bnoff9fq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8761ej8fvx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87fvcdtgoa.fsf@lifelogs.com>" 4940 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85361" nil] ([85362 "Re: [PATCH] Two issues with the gnus-registry" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Thu, 18 Dec 2014 23:09:41 +0800" "<87mw6lq9je.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87egtx70hy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wq7lsggo.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87zjchxr1v.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87h9yogjer.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a942lg39.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <8761eqlfvk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw82jdbf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87bnoff9fq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8761ej8fvx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87fvcdtgoa.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87r3vxq9yu.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 5228 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85362" nil] ([85368 "Re: [PATCH] Two issues with the gnus-registry" "Katsumi Yamaoka " "Fri, 19 Dec 2014 09:44:49 +0900" "" "<87egtx70hy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wq7lsggo.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87zjchxr1v.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87h9yogjer.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a942lg39.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <8761eqlfvk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw82jdbf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87bnoff9fq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8761ej8fvx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87fvcdtgoa.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87r3vxq9yu.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw6lq9je.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 5177 34 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85368" nil] ([85370 "Re: [PATCH] Two issues with the gnus-registry" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Fri, 19 Dec 2014 10:08:56 +0800" "<8761d8qtl3.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87egtx70hy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wq7lsggo.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87zjchxr1v.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87h9yogjer.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a942lg39.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <8761eqlfvk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw82jdbf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87bnoff9fq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8761ej8fvx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87fvcdtgoa.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87r3vxq9yu.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw6lq9je.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> " 6493 45 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85370" nil]) ([85376 "Re: [PATCH] Two issues with the gnus-registry" "Ted Zlatanov " "Fri, 19 Dec 2014 22:09:34 -0500" "<877fxnt3td.fsf@lifelogs.com>" "<87egtx70hy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wq7lsggo.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87zjchxr1v.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87h9yogjer.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a942lg39.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <8761eqlfvk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw82jdbf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87bnoff9fq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8761ej8fvx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87fvcdtgoa.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87r3vxq9yu.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw6lq9je.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> " 4053 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85376" nil] ([85380 "Re: [PATCH] Two issues with the gnus-registry" "Katsumi Yamaoka " "Sat, 20 Dec 2014 20:22:33 +0900" "" "<87egtx70hy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wq7lsggo.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87zjchxr1v.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87h9yogjer.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a942lg39.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <8761eqlfvk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw82jdbf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87bnoff9fq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8761ej8fvx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87fvcdtgoa.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87r3vxq9yu.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw6lq9je.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fxnt3td.fsf@lifelogs.com>" 3683 8 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85380" nil] ([85382 "Older Emacsen (was: [PATCH] Two issues with the gnus-registry)" "Ted Zlatanov " "Sat, 20 Dec 2014 08:53:03 -0500" "<87ppbesa0w.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com>" "<87egtx70hy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wq7lsggo.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87zjchxr1v.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87h9yogjer.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a942lg39.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <8761eqlfvk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw82jdbf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87bnoff9fq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8761ej8fvx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87fvcdtgoa.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87r3vxq9yu.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw6lq9je.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877fxnt3td.fsf@lifelogs.com> " 4073 13 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85382" nil])))) ([85369 "Re: [PATCH] Two issues with the gnus-registry" "Ted Zlatanov " "Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:30:27 -0500" "" "<87egtx70hy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wq7lsggo.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87zjchxr1v.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87h9yogjer.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a942lg39.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <8761eqlfvk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw82jdbf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87bnoff9fq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8761ej8fvx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87fvcdtgoa.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87r3vxq9yu.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87mw6lq9je.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 4110 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85369" nil])))) ([85583 "Re: [gmane.emacs.gnus.user] Re: One folder in local imap not seen" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 18:34:36 +1100" "<87egqg7k37.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87mwb9wb4o.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87vbpwvjj0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a978vfdl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 3618 16 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85583" nil] ([85589 "Re: [gmane.emacs.gnus.user] Re: One folder in local imap not seen" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 22:37:05 +0800" "<87d260e1da.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" " <87mwb9wb4o.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87vbpwvjj0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a978vfdl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87egqg7k37.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 5224 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85589" nil] ([85595 "Re: [gmane.emacs.gnus.user] Re: One folder in local imap not seen" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 11:45:35 +1100" "<87mw5320nk.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87mwb9wb4o.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87vbpwvjj0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a978vfdl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87egqg7k37.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87d260e1da.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 3902 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85595" nil]))) ([85570 "Re: nnir imap with gmail: query encoding" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 16:37:36 +1100" "<87vbjs942n.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<8761h7z19s.fsf@gmail.com> <87iol7w6uv.fsf@gmail.com> <87zjehh36x.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877g1kkdnh.fsf@andy.bu.edu> <87mwadjrwb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 4310 32 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85570" nil] ([85571 "Re: nnir imap with gmail: query encoding" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 14:01:51 +0800" "<87bnlkpxrk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<8761h7z19s.fsf@gmail.com> <87iol7w6uv.fsf@gmail.com> <87zjehh36x.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877g1kkdnh.fsf@andy.bu.edu> <87mwadjrwb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87vbjs942n.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 6196 40 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85571" nil] ([85572 "Re: nnir imap with gmail: query encoding" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 17:24:26 +1100" "<87r3ug91wl.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<8761h7z19s.fsf@gmail.com> <87iol7w6uv.fsf@gmail.com> <87zjehh36x.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877g1kkdnh.fsf@andy.bu.edu> <87mwadjrwb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87vbjs942n.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnlkpxrk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 3534 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85572" nil] ([85573 "Re: nnir imap with gmail: query encoding" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 17:32:53 +1100" "<87mw5491ii.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<8761h7z19s.fsf@gmail.com> <87iol7w6uv.fsf@gmail.com> <87zjehh36x.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877g1kkdnh.fsf@andy.bu.edu> <87mwadjrwb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87vbjs942n.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnlkpxrk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r3ug91wl.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3301 9 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85573" nil] ([85574 "Re: nnir imap with gmail: query encoding" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 14:48:11 +0800" "<877fw8pvmc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<8761h7z19s.fsf@gmail.com> <87iol7w6uv.fsf@gmail.com> <87zjehh36x.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877g1kkdnh.fsf@andy.bu.edu> <87mwadjrwb.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87vbjs942n.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnlkpxrk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r3ug91wl.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87mw5491ii.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4863 10 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85574" nil]))))) ([85609 "Re: nnml-active-number: no such function" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 16:15:59 +1100" "<87lhknxz74.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87lhsq18nu.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 3790 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85609" nil] ([85616 "Re: nnml-active-number: no such function" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 13:58:17 +0800" "<87egqf8n0m.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87lhsq18nu.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhknxz74.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4872 28 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85616" nil])) ([85613 "Re: Strip signature on reply" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 16:39:49 +1100" "<87386vxy3e.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87zji2phm3.fsf@atmarama.net>" 3745 30 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85613" nil]) ([85617 "Re: [ANN] Gnorb: Glue code between Gnus, Org, and BBDB" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:02:54 +1100" "<87pp9zwigh.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87mweubcp5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 3511 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85617" nil] ([85619 "Re: [ANN] Gnorb: Glue code between Gnus, Org, and BBDB" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 14:22:21 +0800" "<877fw78lwi.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87mweubcp5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87pp9zwigh.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4412 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85619" nil] ([85621 "Re: [ANN] Gnorb: Glue code between Gnus, Org, and BBDB" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:19:39 +1100" "<87a913whok.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87mweubcp5.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87pp9zwigh.fsf@building.gnus.org> <877fw78lwi.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 3143 11 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85621" nil]))) ([85564 "Re: gnus uses a cache? And how it affects mairix searches..." "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 16:03:25 +1100" "<87r3ugak82.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87oaus4brr.fsf@skimble.plus.com> <8761gyvr67.fsf_-_@uwo.ca> <87y4saicdd.fsf@uwo.ca> <87vbn9h55q.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k33kuux3.fsf@uwo.ca> <874muonktk.fsf@igel.home> <878ujhnqco.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87vbmlm7yq.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87oasc5csk.fsf@uwo.ca> <87r3x8q71r.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87fvdkyn62.fsf@uwo.ca> <87vbmf3jfx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 3425 11 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85564" nil]) ([85618 "Re: eval'ing message-use-idna defcustom hangs emacs" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:12:03 +1100" "<87lhknwi18.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87zjjcdcn1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 4783 31 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:102329 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85618" nil] ([85632 "Re: eval'ing message-use-idna defcustom hangs emacs" "Eli Zaretskii " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:32:43 +0200" "<83pp9yor8k.fsf@gnu.org>" "<87zjjcdcn1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhknwi18.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3860 11 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:102333 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85632" nil] ([85670 "Re: eval'ing message-use-idna defcustom hangs emacs" "Jason L Tibbitts III " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 16:36:37 -0600" "" "<87zjjcdcn1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhknwi18.fsf@building.gnus.org> <83pp9yor8k.fsf@gnu.org>" 3394 19 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85670 gmane.emacs.help:102372" nil]))) ([85578 "Re: nnml group has move messages than gnus sees" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 18:19:40 +1100" "<8761bs8zcj.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87lhqd4n67.fsf@reader.local.lan>" 3405 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85578" nil]) ([85518 "Re: Extend nnimap to request Gmail labels with message headers" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 15:31:40 +1100" "<87386yjh77.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<1415668163-29280-1-git-send-email-trevor.m.murphy@gmail.com>" 3573 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85518" nil] ([85524 "Re: Extend nnimap to request Gmail labels with message headers" "Trevor Murphy " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 00:44:35 -0500" "<87ppa2t7ss.fsf@gmail.com>" "<1415668163-29280-1-git-send-email-trevor.m.murphy@gmail.com> <87386yjh77.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3967 12 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85524" nil] ([85527 "Re: Extend nnimap to request Gmail labels with message headers" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 18:12:38 +1100" "<87lhkqggm1.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<1415668163-29280-1-git-send-email-trevor.m.murphy@gmail.com> <87386yjh77.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa2t7ss.fsf@gmail.com>" 3318 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85527" nil] ([85530 "Re: Extend nnimap to request Gmail labels with message headers" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 20:41:00 +1100" "<87ppa1hob7.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<1415668163-29280-1-git-send-email-trevor.m.murphy@gmail.com> <87386yjh77.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa2t7ss.fsf@gmail.com> <87lhkqggm1.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3552 22 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85530" nil] ([85665 "Re: Extend nnimap to request Gmail labels with message headers" "Trevor Murphy " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 13:13:42 -0500" "<87zj91a209.fsf@gmail.com>" "<1415668163-29280-1-git-send-email-trevor.m.murphy@gmail.com> <87386yjh77.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa2t7ss.fsf@gmail.com> <87lhkqggm1.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa1hob7.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 6096 31 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85665" nil] ([85712 "Re: Extend nnimap to request Gmail labels with message headers" "Ted Zlatanov " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 06:40:48 -0500" "<871tm5zyyn.fsf@lifelogs.com>" "<1415668163-29280-1-git-send-email-trevor.m.murphy@gmail.com> <87386yjh77.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa2t7ss.fsf@gmail.com> <87lhkqggm1.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa1hob7.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87zj91a209.fsf@gmail.com>" 4186 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85712" nil] ([85726 "Re: Extend nnimap to request Gmail labels with message headers" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 13:38:41 +1100" "<87k2zxw09a.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<1415668163-29280-1-git-send-email-trevor.m.murphy@gmail.com> <87386yjh77.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa2t7ss.fsf@gmail.com> <87lhkqggm1.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa1hob7.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87zj91a209.fsf@gmail.com> <871tm5zyyn.fsf@lifelogs.com>" 3751 28 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85726" nil] ([85739 "Re: Extend nnimap to request Gmail labels with message headers" "Ted Zlatanov " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 23:09:14 -0500" "<87vbjhvw2d.fsf@lifelogs.com>" "<1415668163-29280-1-git-send-email-trevor.m.murphy@gmail.com> <87386yjh77.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa2t7ss.fsf@gmail.com> <87lhkqggm1.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa1hob7.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87zj91a209.fsf@gmail.com> <871tm5zyyn.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87k2zxw09a.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4008 16 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85739" nil] ([85741 "Re: Extend nnimap to request Gmail labels with message headers" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 15:42:37 +1100" "<87bnl9ynnm.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<1415668163-29280-1-git-send-email-trevor.m.murphy@gmail.com> <87386yjh77.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa2t7ss.fsf@gmail.com> <87lhkqggm1.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa1hob7.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87zj91a209.fsf@gmail.com> <871tm5zyyn.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87k2zxw09a.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjhvw2d.fsf@lifelogs.com>" 3686 21 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85741" nil])))) ([85725 "Re: Extend nnimap to request Gmail labels with message headers" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 13:36:06 +1100" "<87oap9w0dl.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<1415668163-29280-1-git-send-email-trevor.m.murphy@gmail.com> <87386yjh77.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa2t7ss.fsf@gmail.com> <87lhkqggm1.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa1hob7.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87zj91a209.fsf@gmail.com>" 3529 16 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85725" nil])))))) ([85620 "Re: spell checking message buffer" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:16:23 +1100" "<87h9vbwhu0.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<874n1n9urz.fsf@micropit.couberia.selfip.net> <87sip65wk2.fsf@micropit.couberia.selfip.net> <87zjdoisvf.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87lhp7icea.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org>" 3535 16 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85620" nil] ([85633 "Re: spell checking message buffer" "Peter Münster " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:45:11 +0100" "<87vbjqx3ag.fsf@roche-blanche.net>" "<874n1n9urz.fsf@micropit.couberia.selfip.net> <87sip65wk2.fsf@micropit.couberia.selfip.net> <87zjdoisvf.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87lhp7icea.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87h9vbwhu0.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3950 19 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85633" nil])) ([85544 "Re: gnus-icalendar-identities and message-alternative-emails" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 12:44:06 +1100" "<87mw55c80p.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87wq8hfj2c.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org>" 3827 23 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85544" nil]) ([85562 "Re: Showing for certain groups the number of emails instead of the number of unread emails?" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 15:56:09 +1100" "<87vbjsakk6.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "" 3397 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85562" nil]) ([85688 "Re: Why do we need a number of different terminal modes in Emacs?" "Eric S Fraga " "Sun, 1 Feb 2015 10:38:07 +0000" "<87pp9tzzlc.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" " " 4421 12 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85688" nil] ([85690 "Re: Why do we need a number of different terminal modes in Emacs?" "Andrey Lisin " "Sun, 01 Feb 2015 18:22:26 +0600" "" " <87pp9tzzlc.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 4045 12 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85690" nil])) ([85523 "Re: Changes from gnus 5.13 (emacs 24.3) til now (git master)" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 16:08:12 +1100" "<87fvayi0xv.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87d2a0dl58.fsf@gmail.com>" 3391 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85523" nil] ([85800 "Re: Changes from gnus 5.13 (emacs 24.3) til now (git master)" "Igor Sosa Mayor " "Sun, 22 Feb 2015 09:14:35 +0100" "<87vbiupdlg.fsf@gmail.com>" "<87d2a0dl58.fsf@gmail.com> <87fvayi0xv.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 5646 21 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85800" nil])) ([85550 "Re: anti top-posting gnus-article-outlook-rearrange-citation fails for gmail. II" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 14:03:13 +1100" "<87y4opapse.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<874mvp9rcf.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 3209 19 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85550" nil]) ([85788 "Re: flyspell in messages" "Eric S Fraga " "Wed, 18 Feb 2015 14:51:38 +0000" "<87zj8b8e85.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<878ufvi9d1.fsf@engels.histomat.net>" 4990 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85788" nil]) ([85515 "Re: Prevent mails from being expired" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 15:11:34 +1100" "<87fvayji4p.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "" 4036 33 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85515" nil]) ([85546 "Re: Recent Emacs doesn't respect my mailcap" "Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 12:58:32 +1100" "<87h9vdc7cn.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87386xf5gx.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87386xdmzp.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 4614 27 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:102304 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85546" nil] ([85547 "Re: Recent Emacs doesn't respect my mailcap" "Rasmus " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 03:11:32 +0100" "<87egqhrmzv.fsf@gmx.us>" " <87386xf5gx.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87386xdmzp.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87h9vdc7cn.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 6129 45 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:102305 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85547" nil] ([85548 "Re: Recent Emacs doesn't respect my mailcap" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 13:42:56 +1100" "<87a915c5an.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87386xf5gx.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87386xdmzp.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87h9vdc7cn.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87egqhrmzv.fsf@gmx.us>" 3669 21 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85548" nil] ([85549 "Re: Recent Emacs doesn't respect my mailcap" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:01:08 +0800" "<87ppa1rkp7.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" " <87386xf5gx.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87386xdmzp.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87h9vdc7cn.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87egqhrmzv.fsf@gmx.us> <87a915c5an.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 5598 26 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85549" nil] ([85555 "Re: Recent Emacs doesn't respect my mailcap" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 14:01:38 +1100" "<87386xc4fh.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87386xf5gx.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87386xdmzp.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87h9vdc7cn.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87egqhrmzv.fsf@gmx.us> <87a915c5an.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa1rkp7.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 3789 16 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85555" nil] ([85557 "Re: Recent Emacs doesn't respect my mailcap" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:59:24 +0800" "<87fvawri03.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" " <87386xf5gx.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87386xdmzp.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87h9vdc7cn.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87egqhrmzv.fsf@gmx.us> <87a915c5an.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa1rkp7.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87386xc4fh.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 5632 22 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85557" nil] ([85558 "Re: Recent Emacs doesn't respect my mailcap" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 15:47:03 +1100" "<878ugobzjs.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87386xf5gx.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87386xdmzp.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87h9vdc7cn.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87egqhrmzv.fsf@gmx.us> <87a915c5an.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa1rkp7.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87386xc4fh.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87fvawri03.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 4636 33 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85558" nil] ([85563 "Re: Recent Emacs doesn't respect my mailcap" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 13:08:46 +0800" "<87lhkoq081.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" " <87386xf5gx.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87386xdmzp.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87h9vdc7cn.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87egqhrmzv.fsf@gmx.us> <87a915c5an.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa1rkp7.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87386xc4fh.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87fvawri03.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <878ugobzjs.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 6592 43 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85563" nil] ([85597 "Re: Recent Emacs doesn't respect my mailcap" "david.goldberg6@verizon.net (Dave Goldberg)" "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:54:54 -0500" "<841tmf7jpt.fsf@davestoy.home>" " <87386xf5gx.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87386xdmzp.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87h9vdc7cn.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87egqhrmzv.fsf@gmx.us> <87a915c5an.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa1rkp7.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87386xc4fh.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87fvawri03.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <878ugobzjs.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87lhkoq081.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 5300 36 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85597" nil] ([85646 "Re: Recent Emacs doesn't respect my mailcap" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 13:21:29 +1100" "<874mranx7a.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87386xf5gx.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87386xdmzp.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87h9vdc7cn.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87egqhrmzv.fsf@gmx.us> <87a915c5an.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87ppa1rkp7.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87386xc4fh.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87fvawri03.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <878ugobzjs.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87lhkoq081.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <841tmf7jpt.fsf@davestoy.home>" 5408 54 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85646" nil])))))))))) ([85350 "Re: nnir-run-gmane produces empty results" "Frank " "Sat, 13 Dec 2014 03:05:20 +0000 (UTC)" "" "<87ionqgh5n.fsf@fastmail.fm>" 4193 46 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85350" nil]) ([85351 "Re: nnir-run-gmane produces empty results" "Frank " "Sat, 13 Dec 2014 09:35:09 +0800" "<87zjaswcvm.fsf@gmail.com>" "<87ionqgh5n.fsf@fastmail.fm>" 3813 37 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85351" nil]) ([85352 "Re: nnir-run-gmane produces empty results" "Frank " "Sat, 13 Dec 2014 03:59:18 +0000 (UTC)" "" "<87ionqgh5n.fsf@fastmail.fm>" 4172 44 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85352" nil]) ([85354 "Re: nnir-run-gmane produces empty results" "Frank " "Sat, 13 Dec 2014 12:03:46 +0800" "<87zjastcv1.fsf@gmail.com>" "<87ionqgh5n.fsf@fastmail.fm>" 4061 43 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85354" nil]) ([85355 "Re: nnir-run-gmane produces empty results" "Frank " "Sat, 13 Dec 2014 10:03:28 +0800" "<87bnn8wbkf.fsf@gmail.com>" "<87ionqgh5n.fsf@fastmail.fm>" 4068 44 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85355" nil] ([85356 "Re: nnir-run-gmane produces empty results" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Sat, 13 Dec 2014 09:17:27 +0100" "<87oar82cbs.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87ionqgh5n.fsf@fastmail.fm> <87bnn8wbkf.fsf@gmail.com>" 3840 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85356" nil])) ([85582 "Re: How do I view the entire-article thread?" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 18:31:34 +1100" "<87iofs7k89.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<877g2auzyq.fsf@gmail.com>" 3454 19 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85582" nil]) ([85771 "Re: color of transient-mark-mode" "Eric S Fraga " "Thu, 12 Feb 2015 08:19:48 +0000" "<874mqrlexn.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<87bnl01gnk.fsf@engels.histomat.net>" 4656 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85771" nil]) ([85569 "Re: IMAP connection goes to the wrong port" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 16:33:47 +1100" "<87zj949490.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "" 4265 23 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85569" nil]) ([85566 "Re: forward/insert a message in a reply message buffer" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 16:20:29 +1100" "<87egqgajfm.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87ppfbr2ag.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <84ha0mn7rs.fsf@davestoy.home> <87oauuwa99.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 3770 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85566" nil] ([85599 "Re: forward/insert a message in a reply message buffer" "david.goldberg6@verizon.net (Dave Goldberg)" "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 21:20:34 -0500" "<84lhkn63yl.fsf@davestoy.home>" "<87ppfbr2ag.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <84ha0mn7rs.fsf@davestoy.home> <87oauuwa99.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87egqgajfm.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4259 30 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85599" nil] ([85647 "Re: forward/insert a message in a reply message buffer" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 13:22:46 +1100" "<87zj92mikp.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87ppfbr2ag.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <84ha0mn7rs.fsf@davestoy.home> <87oauuwa99.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87egqgajfm.fsf@building.gnus.org> <84lhkn63yl.fsf@davestoy.home>" 3594 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85647" nil] ([85685 "Re: forward/insert a message in a reply message buffer" "david.goldberg6@verizon.net (Dave Goldberg)" "Sat, 31 Jan 2015 11:47:01 -0500" "<84a90yhp8a.fsf@davestoy.home>" "<87ppfbr2ag.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <84ha0mn7rs.fsf@davestoy.home> <87oauuwa99.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87egqgajfm.fsf@building.gnus.org> <84lhkn63yl.fsf@davestoy.home> <87zj92mikp.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3833 22 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85685" nil] ([85734 "Re: forward/insert a message in a reply message buffer" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 14:37:52 +1100" "<87bnl9110v.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87ppfbr2ag.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <84ha0mn7rs.fsf@davestoy.home> <87oauuwa99.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87egqgajfm.fsf@building.gnus.org> <84lhkn63yl.fsf@davestoy.home> <87zj92mikp.fsf@building.gnus.org> <84a90yhp8a.fsf@davestoy.home>" 3267 11 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85734" nil]))))) ([85568 "Re: Extracting all videos attached to emails from emails?" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 16:25:01 +1100" "<8761bsaj82.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "" 3364 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85568" nil]) ([85324 "Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" "Eric S Fraga " "Tue, 9 Dec 2014 16:15:51 +0000" "<87r3w8x0i0.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" " <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <8761dl3xth.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87ppbsgbi7.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> " 6678 71 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85324" nil] ([85325 "Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" "Peter Davis " "Tue, 09 Dec 2014 12:42:44 -0500" "" " <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <8761dl3xth.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87ppbsgbi7.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87r3w8x0i0.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 6203 72 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85325" nil] ([85326 "Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Tue, 09 Dec 2014 19:26:22 +0100" "<878uig8ysx.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" " <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <8761dl3xth.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87ppbsgbi7.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87r3w8x0i0.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> " 4937 37 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85326" nil] ([85328 "Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" "Peter Davis " "Tue, 09 Dec 2014 14:56:39 -0500" "" " <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <8761dl3xth.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87ppbsgbi7.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87r3w8x0i0.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <878uig8ysx.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 4377 22 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85328" nil] ([85329 "Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Tue, 09 Dec 2014 21:16:50 +0100" "<87zjaw7f4d.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" " <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <8761dl3xth.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87ppbsgbi7.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87r3w8x0i0.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <878uig8ysx.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> " 4511 29 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85329" nil] ([85331 "Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" "Peter Münster " "Tue, 09 Dec 2014 22:21:05 +0100" "<87lhmgzfi6.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org>" " <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <8761dl3xth.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87ppbsgbi7.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87r3w8x0i0.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <878uig8ysx.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87zjaw7f4d.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 3966 23 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85331" nil])))))) ([85330 "Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" "Charles Philip Chan " "Tue, 09 Dec 2014 16:20:57 -0500" "<87mw6wjz9i.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem>" " <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <8761dl3xth.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87ppbsgbi7.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> " 5191 51 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85330" nil] ([85333 "Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" "Peter Davis " "Tue, 09 Dec 2014 17:46:35 -0500" "" " <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <8761dl3xth.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87ppbsgbi7.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw6wjz9i.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem>" 4348 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85333" nil] ([85334 "Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" "Charles Philip Chan " "Tue, 09 Dec 2014 19:19:37 -0500" "<87iohkjqzq.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem>" " <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <8761dl3xth.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87ppbsgbi7.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw6wjz9i.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> " 4335 32 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85334" nil] ([85335 "Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" "Peter Davis " "Tue, 09 Dec 2014 19:25:45 -0500" "" " <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <8761dl3xth.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87ppbsgbi7.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw6wjz9i.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> <87iohkjqzq.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem>" 3965 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85335" nil] ([85336 "Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" "Charles Philip Chan " "Tue, 09 Dec 2014 20:35:03 -0500" "<87egs8jni0.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem>" " <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <8761dl3xth.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87ppbsgbi7.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw6wjz9i.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> <87iohkjqzq.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> " 4358 36 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85336" nil] ([85337 "Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?" "Peter Davis " "Tue, 09 Dec 2014 21:01:37 -0500" "" " <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <8761dl3xth.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87ppbsgbi7.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87mw6wjz9i.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> <87iohkjqzq.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem> <87egs8jni0.fsf@karnak.MagnumOpus.khem>" 4117 21 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85337" nil])))))) ([85610 "Re: Diffie-Hellman key exchange has been lowered to 256 bits" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 16:18:07 +1100" "<87h9vbxz3k.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "" 3490 23 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85610" nil] ([85627 "Re: Diffie-Hellman key exchange has been lowered to 256 bits" "Greg Troxel " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 07:32:02 -0500" "" " <87h9vbxz3k.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3854 39 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85627" nil] ([85642 "Re: Diffie-Hellman key exchange has been lowered to 256 bits" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 12:39:53 +1100" "<87mw52nz4m.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87h9vbxz3k.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3537 19 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85642" nil]))) ([85542 "Re: default binding of M-& in group and summary buffers" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 12:36:39 +1100" "<87y4opc8d4.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "" 3352 16 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85542" nil]) ([85622 "Re: Scaling stuff for high dpi screens" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:23:00 +1100" "<8761brwhiz.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87vbu5m25o.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <871twqefd6.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87lhulyz7g.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 3569 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85622 gmane.emacs.devel:181878" nil] ([85625 "Re: Scaling stuff for high dpi screens" "David Kastrup " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 09:46:56 +0100" "<878ugncmwv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>" "<87vbu5m25o.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <871twqefd6.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87lhulyz7g.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <8761brwhiz.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4200 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:181888 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85625" nil] ([85637 "Re: Scaling stuff for high dpi screens" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 12:02:04 +1100" "<87fvaupfg3.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87vbu5m25o.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <871twqefd6.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87lhulyz7g.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <8761brwhiz.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878ugncmwv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>" 4196 16 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:181954 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85637" nil]) ([85668 "Re: Scaling stuff for high dpi screens" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 23:26:14 +0100" "<87y4olnrzt.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87vbu5m25o.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <871twqefd6.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87lhulyz7g.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <8761brwhiz.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878ugncmwv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>" 4930 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:182012 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85668" nil]) ([85673 "Re: Scaling stuff for high dpi screens" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Fri, 30 Jan 2015 00:57:14 +0100" "<87siet3ztx.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87vbu5m25o.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <871twqefd6.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87lhulyz7g.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <8761brwhiz.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878ugncmwv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>" 6910 65 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:182013 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85673" nil] ([85675 "Re: Scaling stuff for high dpi screens" "Eli Zaretskii " "Fri, 30 Jan 2015 08:26:28 +0200" "<8361bon5rf.fsf@gnu.org>" "<87vbu5m25o.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <871twqefd6.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87lhulyz7g.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <8761brwhiz.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878ugncmwv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87siet3ztx.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 4325 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:182020 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85675" nil]) ([85676 "Re: Scaling stuff for high dpi screens" "David Kastrup " "Fri, 30 Jan 2015 11:05:55 +0100" "<87egqcbn24.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>" "<87vbu5m25o.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <871twqefd6.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87lhulyz7g.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <8761brwhiz.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878ugncmwv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87siet3ztx.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 5976 58 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:182035 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85676" nil] ([85677 "Re: Scaling stuff for high dpi screens" "Vincent Bernat " "Fri, 30 Jan 2015 16:19:43 +0100" "<877fw4b8j4.fsf@zoro.exoscale.ch>" "<87vbu5m25o.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <871twqefd6.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87lhulyz7g.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <8761brwhiz.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878ugncmwv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87siet3ztx.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87egqcbn24.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>" 5507 45 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85677 gmane.emacs.devel:182059" nil] ([85679 "Re: Scaling stuff for high dpi screens" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Sat, 31 Jan 2015 00:38:28 +0100" "<8761bnu9e3.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87vbu5m25o.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <871twqefd6.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87lhulyz7g.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <8761brwhiz.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878ugncmwv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87siet3ztx.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87egqcbn24.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <877fw4b8j4.fsf@zoro.exoscale.ch>" 4777 31 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85679 gmane.emacs.devel:182103" nil] ([85684 "Re: Scaling stuff for high dpi screens" "Vincent Bernat " "Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:59:14 +0100" "" "<87vbu5m25o.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <871twqefd6.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87lhulyz7g.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <8761brwhiz.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878ugncmwv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87siet3ztx.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87egqcbn24.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <877fw4b8j4.fsf@zoro.exoscale.ch> <8761bnu9e3.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 4478 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85684 gmane.emacs.devel:182137" nil]))))))) ([85630 "Re: Scaling stuff for high dpi screens" "Andreas Schwab " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 10:39:50 +0100" "" "<87vbu5m25o.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <871twqefd6.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87lhulyz7g.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 3236 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85630" nil] ([85669 "Re: Scaling stuff for high dpi screens" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 23:28:32 +0100" "<87twz9nrvz.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87vbu5m25o.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <871twqefd6.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87lhulyz7g.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> " 4195 26 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85669" nil])) ([85551 "Re: how to delete a virtual group" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 14:15:28 +1100" "<87h9vcc3sf.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87r3zakngm.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 3133 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85551" nil]) ([85525 "Re: shr and colspan?" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 17:08:15 +1100" "<878ugqhy5s.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<8761fvsyxg.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87vbnvrjzx.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 3718 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85525" nil] ([85536 "Re: shr and colspan?" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 21:15:28 +0100" "<87egqhqowv.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<8761fvsyxg.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87vbnvrjzx.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <878ugqhy5s.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4433 37 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85536" nil])) ([85373 "Re: gnus-calendar / gnus-icalendar in Emacs24?" "Eric S Fraga " "Fri, 19 Dec 2014 16:47:12 +0000" "<87y4q3a8of.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<87vbldf2yt.fsf@hornfels.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <87oar0dhr2.fsf@hillenius.net>" 5115 24 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85373" nil] ([85377 "Re: gnus-calendar / gnus-icalendar in Emacs24?" "Gijs Hillenius " "Sat, 20 Dec 2014 08:57:47 +0100" "<87y4q2vjlw.fsf@hillenius.net>" "<87vbldf2yt.fsf@hornfels.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <87oar0dhr2.fsf@hillenius.net> <87y4q3a8of.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 5131 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85377" nil])) ([85410 "Re: gnus-calendar / gnus-icalendar in Emacs24?" "Jan Tatarik " "Wed, 31 Dec 2014 16:53:41 +0100" "<87y4pnzugq.fsf@nb-jtatarik2.xing.hh>" "<87vbldf2yt.fsf@hornfels.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <87oar0dhr2.fsf@hillenius.net>" 4826 34 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85410" nil]) ([85323 "Re: virtual groups based on subjects" "Glyn Millington " "Tue, 09 Dec 2014 14:34:59 +0000" "<87zjaw99ik.fsf@nowhere.org>" "<87k322zdiz.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87k321j1wa.fsf@nowhere.org> <8761dl6lk7.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 4694 47 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85323" nil]) ([85365 "Re: Some imap accounts not updating in 24.4" "Alberto Luaces " "Thu, 18 Dec 2014 21:24:12 +0100" "<87r3vw4sgj.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es>" "<87bnnuao0x.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> " 3683 21 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85365" nil] ([85375 "Re: Some imap accounts not updating in 24.4" "Ted Zlatanov " "Fri, 19 Dec 2014 22:07:25 -0500" "<87bnmzt3wy.fsf@lifelogs.com>" "<87bnnuao0x.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87r3vw4sgj.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es>" 4433 30 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85375" nil] ([85396 "Re: Some imap accounts not updating in 24.4" "Alberto Luaces " "Mon, 22 Dec 2014 20:48:37 +0100" "<87y4pza2ju.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es>" "<87bnnuao0x.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87r3vw4sgj.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87bnmzt3wy.fsf@lifelogs.com>" 4910 58 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85396" nil] ([85714 "Re: Some imap accounts not updating in 24.4" "Ted Zlatanov " "Wed, 04 Feb 2015 06:48:27 -0500" "<87sielyk1g.fsf@lifelogs.com>" "<87bnnuao0x.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87r3vw4sgj.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87bnmzt3wy.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87y4pza2ju.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es>" 4273 28 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85714" nil]) ([85731 "Re: Some imap accounts not updating in 24.4" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 05 Feb 2015 14:14:49 +1100" "<87wq3xuk0m.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87bnnuao0x.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87r3vw4sgj.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87bnmzt3wy.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87y4pza2ju.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es>" 3274 12 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85731" nil] ([85791 "Re: Some imap accounts not updating in 24.4" "Alberto Luaces " "Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:39:38 +0100" "<87oaort3et.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es>" "<87bnnuao0x.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87r3vw4sgj.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87bnmzt3wy.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87y4pza2ju.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87wq3xuk0m.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4079 33 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85791" nil] ([85793 "Re: Some imap accounts not updating in 24.4" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:56:20 +1100" "<87a90ajvgb.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87bnnuao0x.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87r3vw4sgj.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87bnmzt3wy.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87y4pza2ju.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87wq3xuk0m.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87oaort3et.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es>" 3231 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85793" nil])))))) ([85520 "Re: fetching old headers" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 15:45:05 +1100" "<87twzei20e.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "" 3477 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85520" nil] ([85533 "Re: fetching old headers" "Peter Davis " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 08:10:04 -0500" "" " <87twzei20e.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4334 33 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85533" nil] ([85636 "Re: fetching old headers" "Peter Davis " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 18:48:57 -0500" "" " <87twzei20e.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 4617 40 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85636" nil] ([85640 "Re: fetching old headers" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 12:35:23 +1100" "<87vbjqnzc4.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87twzei20e.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3297 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85640" nil] ([85644 "Re: fetching old headers" "Peter Davis " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 20:44:43 -0500" "" " <87twzei20e.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjqnzc4.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4237 25 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85644" nil] ([85650 "Re: fetching old headers" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 13:34:40 +1100" "<87oapimi0v.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87twzei20e.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87vbjqnzc4.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3446 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85650" nil])))))) ([85671 "Re: eval'ing message-use-idna defcustom hangs emacs" "Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen " "Fri, 30 Jan 2015 10:36:08 +1100" "<87vbjpyxav.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<87zjjcdcn1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhknwi18.fsf@building.gnus.org> <83pp9yor8k.fsf@gnu.org> " 3511 14 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85671 gmane.emacs.help:102374" nil] ([85674 "Re: eval'ing message-use-idna defcustom hangs emacs" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Fri, 30 Jan 2015 10:42:23 +0800" "<87vbjpat0w.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" "<87zjjcdcn1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87lhknwi18.fsf@building.gnus.org> <83pp9yor8k.fsf@gnu.org> <87vbjpyxav.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 5426 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:102375 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85674" nil])) ([85461 "Re: All non-marked messages unread" "Eric S Fraga " "Sun, 11 Jan 2015 14:04:45 +0000" "<87vbkd8lc2.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<87387iad7o.fsf@Equus.decebal.nl>" 5336 26 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85461" nil] ([85473 "Re: All non-marked messages unread" "Steinar Bang " "Mon, 12 Jan 2015 08:55:17 +0100" "" "<87387iad7o.fsf@Equus.decebal.nl> <87vbkd8lc2.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 3525 13 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85473" nil] ([85479 "Re: All non-marked messages unread" "Eric S Fraga " "Mon, 12 Jan 2015 18:14:53 +0000" "<87h9vvg92a.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<87387iad7o.fsf@Equus.decebal.nl> <87vbkd8lc2.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> " 5571 33 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85479" nil] ([85480 "Re: All non-marked messages unread" "asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)" "Mon, 12 Jan 2015 20:52:50 +0100" "<87lhl73hf1.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" "<87387iad7o.fsf@Equus.decebal.nl> <87vbkd8lc2.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87h9vvg92a.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" 4284 23 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85480" nil] ([85485 "Re: All non-marked messages unread" "" "Thu, 15 Jan 2015 08:08:23 +0000" "<87a91ktqiw.fsf@ucl.ac.uk>" "<87387iad7o.fsf@Equus.decebal.nl> <87vbkd8lc2.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87h9vvg92a.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87lhl73hf1.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk>" 5176 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85485" nil]))))) ([85611 "Re: [PATCH] Fix handling of test clauses in mailcap entries" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 16:25:25 +1100" "<87bnljxyre.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<874mzqsesg.fsf@denkblock.local>" 3362 15 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85611" nil]) ([85612 "Re: (expiry-wait . never) not properly handled by nnimap backend" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Wed, 28 Jan 2015 16:30:26 +1100" "<877fw7xyj1.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<871tvat80p.fsf@denkblock.local>" 3591 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85612" nil] ([85635 "Re: (expiry-wait . never) not properly handled by nnimap backend" "Katsumi Yamaoka " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 07:22:39 +0900" "" "<871tvat80p.fsf@denkblock.local> <877fw7xyj1.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3658 10 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85635" nil] ([85638 "Re: (expiry-wait . never) not properly handled by nnimap backend" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 12:06:21 +1100" "<878ugmpf8y.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<871tvat80p.fsf@denkblock.local> <877fw7xyj1.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3550 18 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85638" nil] ([85643 "Re: (expiry-wait . never) not properly handled by nnimap backend" "Katsumi Yamaoka " "Thu, 29 Jan 2015 10:44:39 +0900" "" "<871tvat80p.fsf@denkblock.local> <877fw7xyj1.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878ugmpf8y.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 3559 9 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85643" nil])))) ([85560 "Re: IMAP Folder hierarchy -> Topics" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 15:53:08 +1100" "<87zj94akp7.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<1spq3462vw.fsf@voll.uninett.no> <1sk3tc60en.fsf@voll.uninett.no> <874njb7395.fsf@gnus.org> <87fw2v8hpe.fsf@lifelogs.com> <1s4mw9886m.fsf@voll2.uninett.no>" 3846 20 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85560" nil]) ([85576 "Re: Gnus Digest Mode and Google Groups" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 18:15:07 +1100" "<87egqg8zk4.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "<878um6wf51.fsf@mat.ucm.es>" 3248 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85576" nil]) ([85519 "Re: Snoozing a message in gnus?" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 15:34:02 +1100" "<87y4oqi2it.fsf@building.gnus.org>" "" 3461 19 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85519" nil] ([85529 "Re: Snoozing a message in gnus?" "Rainer M Krug " "Mon, 26 Jan 2015 09:39:06 +0100" "" " <87y4oqi2it.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 5203 53 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85529" nil] ([85541 "Re: Snoozing a message in gnus?" "Lars Ingebrigtsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:56:37 +1100" "<87egqhdosa.fsf@building.gnus.org>" " <87y4oqi2it.fsf@building.gnus.org> " 3308 16 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85541" nil] ([85545 "Re: Snoozing a message in gnus?" "Eric Abrahamsen " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 09:53:45 +0800" "<87k309t2dy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" " <87y4oqi2it.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87egqhdosa.fsf@building.gnus.org>" 4912 17 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85545" nil] ([85586 "Re: Snoozing a message in gnus?" "Rainer M Krug " "Tue, 27 Jan 2015 09:12:13 +0100" "" " <87y4oqi2it.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87egqhdosa.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87k309t2dy.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net>" 5280 57 "news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85586" nil])))))) --=-=-=-- From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 12:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: Glenn Morris , Eli Zaretskii , 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.143739679426252 (code B ref 18522); Mon, 20 Jul 2015 12:54:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jul 2015 12:53:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54459 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHAZF-0006pL-Q1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 08:53:14 -0400 Received: from smtp06.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.128]:35879 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZHAZD-0006p6-AI for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 08:53:11 -0400 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.2.115.231]) by mwinf5d41 with ME id ucsz1q00e4zdBgq03ct0eQ; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:53:04 +0200 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:53:04 +0200 X-ME-IP: 2.2.115.231 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9690382D1; Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:52:59 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 14:52:59 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> ("Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?="'s message of "Mon, 02 Mar 2015 15:34:19 +0100") Message-ID: <87io9f3s9g.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Hi, Is there anything, that I could do, for further debugging? Emacs uptime is 17 days, and entering groups is really *very* slow now. Info from "ps": USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND peter 3508 2.0 4.2 919932 170548 ? Sl Jul03 502:40 emacs --iconic -- Peter From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 26 11:08:09 2015 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Dec 2015 16:08:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41628 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aCrO5-0002ex-4L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 11:08:09 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:45195) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aCrO3-0002ep-Qq for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 11:08:08 -0500 Received: from 2.150.58.24.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.58.24] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aCrNj-0001SZ-1D for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 17:07:47 +0100 Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 17:07:46 +0100 Message-Id: <874mf5ry5p.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #18522 X-MailScanner-ID: 1aCrNj-0001SZ-1D X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1451750867.60296@sNLS21SFvAHzhe3V0fekew X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) tags 18522 - moreinfo From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2016 06:32:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145482669118279 (code B ref 18522); Sun, 07 Feb 2016 06:32:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2016 06:31:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36383 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aSIsd-0004kX-Dw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 01:31:31 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:46374) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aSIsb-0004ig-It for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 01:31:30 -0500 Received: from cpe-60-225-211-161.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([60.225.211.161] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aSIsE-00069R-Um; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 07:31:07 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2016 17:31:00 +1100 In-Reply-To: <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> ("Peter \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?M\?\= \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?\=FCnster\=22's\?\= message of "Mon, 02 Mar 2015 15:34:19 +0100") Message-ID: <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MailScanner-ID: 1aSIsE-00069R-Um X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1455431467.7314@0RdQLzGSJ5iHTfh4zjJJ1A X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Peter M=FCnster writes: > On Sat, Feb 14 2015, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > >> After you enter the debugger, can you go to the *scratch* buffer and >> >> `M-: (pp threads (current-buffer)) RET' > > Hi, > > `threads' is not defined then... Instead I've modified > `gnus-sort-threads' to print `threads' into the buffer. > > In both cases it's the same. Please find attached an example. Hm. That looks totally normal, I think. So our supposition here is: The time is spent in parse-time-string. The data it's running on is the same. But after Emacs has run a significant amount of time, parse-time-string becomes slower. To test that, does=20 (benchmark-run 1 (dotimes (i 10000) (parse-time-string "Fri, 13 Feb 2015 14:40:02 +0000"))) run faster in a newly started Emacs than in one that has been running for a long time? An alternative explanation might be that you're inadvertently loading an alternative version of parse-time.el somewhere, and getting an uncompiled version of the function. What does `C-h f parse-time-string' say in a slow and a fast Emacs? --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 16:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.14557248196966 (code B ref 18522); Wed, 17 Feb 2016 16:01:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Feb 2016 16:00:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39789 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aW4WZ-0001oI-3s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:00:19 -0500 Received: from smtp04.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.126]:55591 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aW4WW-0001o0-RO for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:00:17 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.2.219.34]) by mwinf5d51 with ME id KU071s00K0l7JQ203U07rw; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 17:00:10 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 17:00:10 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.2.219.34 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 51EE8F00D; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 17:00:07 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 17:00:07 +0100 Message-ID: <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Sun, Feb 07 2016, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > So our supposition here is: The time is spent in parse-time-string. The > data it's running on is the same. But after Emacs has run a significant > amount of time, parse-time-string becomes slower. > > To test that, does > > (benchmark-run 1 > (dotimes (i 10000) > (parse-time-string "Fri, 13 Feb 2015 14:40:02 +0000"))) > > run faster in a newly started Emacs than in one that has been running > for a long time? Hi Lars, It becomes slower and slower: emacs -Q: (1.901298604 63 0.7084347450000001) (1.872230076 62 0.6968837490000003) (1.875635069 62 0.6954687450000001) emacs: (1.717632996 14 0.49240735300000005) (1.709202998 14 0.49144767599999994) (1.743671899 15 0.5327712409999996) just after starting Gnus: (2.388075413 18 1.118860780999999) (2.317841377 17 1.056383110000001) (2.372941828 18 1.1168076720000002) just after starting org-notify: (2.573931109 19 1.2253276549999992) (2.605375629 19 1.2394917619999992) (2.560276964 19 1.2212755360000003) after 1 day uptime: (3.744592118 19 1.5007945239999572) (3.741772863 19 1.5062292100001287) (3.744434861 19 1.4990475370001377) after 2 days uptime: (5.104874753 18 1.5796559729999444) (5.244741606 20 1.7344523149997713) (5.166454389 19 1.6512688520001575) after 3 days uptime: (7.111809223 17 1.6411146469995401) (7.200519214 17 1.6629621439999482) (7.086889831 18 1.7155860500001836) > An alternative explanation might be that you're inadvertently loading an > alternative version of parse-time.el somewhere, and getting an > uncompiled version of the function. What does `C-h f parse-time-string' > say in a slow and a fast Emacs? In both cases: parse-time-string is an autoloaded compiled Lisp function in ‘parse-time.el’. -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 05:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.14558589381688 (code B ref 18522); Fri, 19 Feb 2016 05:16:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2016 05:15:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33390 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aWdPm-0000Qp-4W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 00:15:38 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:46057) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aWdPl-0000PP-0x for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 00:15:37 -0500 Received: from 203-174-152-162.cust.static-ipl.aapt.com.au ([203.174.152.162] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aWdPN-0003NM-0l; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 06:15:13 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 16:15:08 +1100 In-Reply-To: <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> ("Peter \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?M\?\= \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?\=FCnster\=22's\?\= message of "Wed, 17 Feb 2016 17:00:07 +0100") Message-ID: <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MailScanner-ID: 1aWdPN-0003NM-0l X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1456463714.79681@jiNgNeIicK4pj06w/sTD9Q X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Peter M=FCnster writes: >> (benchmark-run 1 >> (dotimes (i 10000) >> (parse-time-string "Fri, 13 Feb 2015 14:40:02 +0000"))) >> >> run faster in a newly started Emacs than in one that has been running >> for a long time? > > Hi Lars, > > It becomes slower and slower: [...] > after 1 day uptime: > (3.744592118 19 1.5007945239999572) > (3.741772863 19 1.5062292100001287) > (3.744434861 19 1.4990475370001377) > > after 2 days uptime: > (5.104874753 18 1.5796559729999444) > (5.244741606 20 1.7344523149997713) > (5.166454389 19 1.6512688520001575) > > after 3 days uptime: > (7.111809223 17 1.6411146469995401) > (7.200519214 17 1.6629621439999482) > (7.086889831 18 1.7155860500001836) Cool! Then at least we've found the culprit. :-) Now we just have to find out why. Does anybody have any idea? Could somebody else also try running the benchmark form up there in a newly started Emacs and one that's been running for a while to see if they can reproduce this bug? --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: peder@klingenberg.no (Peder O. Klingenberg) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 08:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145587050331084 (code B ref 18522); Fri, 19 Feb 2016 08:29:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2016 08:28:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33449 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aWgQJ-00085I-7W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 03:28:23 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:54651) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aWgQH-00085A-DP for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 03:28:22 -0500 Received: from luna.netfonds.no ([80.91.225.79] helo=luna) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aWgPv-0007ST-EU for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 09:27:59 +0100 Received: by luna (Postfix, from userid 547) id 699394E0882; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 09:27:59 +0100 (CET) From: peder@klingenberg.no (Peder O. 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References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 09:27:59 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Fri, 19 Feb 2016 16:15:08 +1100") Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1aWgPv-0007ST-EU X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: pok@luna.netfonds.no MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1456475279.52237@dujaR4lea0UW1bt7IvpoAw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) On Fri, Feb 19 2016 at 16:15, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Could somebody else also try running the benchmark form up there in a > newly started Emacs and one that's been running for a while to see if > they can reproduce this bug? Reproducible for me, on a fairly old build from master. GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2015-02-10 on luna emacs -Q: (0.486050254 62 0.14596531899999993) (0.476148629 62 0.14965575099999995) (0.48096619 62 0.15016140600000039) (0.475289574 62 0.14931084599999966) emacs: (0.756362151 41 0.4092070400000001) (0.705364164 40 0.36777845200000003) (0.706183625 41 0.3791851149999994) (0.709007708 40 0.37037735199999977) emacs with 38 days uptime, lots of buffers, gnus running, etc: (33.491108001 3 0.5502189609999277) (33.388318264 2 0.3723178949999806) (34.000763018 3 0.5643239880000124) ...Peder... -- I wish a new life awaited _me_ in some off-world colony. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 08:40:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: pmlists@free.fr, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145587116032138 (code B ref 18522); Fri, 19 Feb 2016 08:40:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2016 08:39:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33458 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aWgau-0008MH-FI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 03:39:20 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47882) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aWgap-0008M1-Iq for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 03:39:19 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aWgag-0003Vh-J9 for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 03:39:10 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41893) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aWgag-0003Vd-Ft; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 03:39:06 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2686 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aWgad-0002SX-MZ; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 03:39:04 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 10:38:59 +0200 Message-Id: <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 19 Feb 2016 16:15:08 +1100) References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 16:15:08 +1100 > Cc: 18522@debbugs.gnu.org > > Peter Münster writes: > > >> (benchmark-run 1 > >> (dotimes (i 10000) > >> (parse-time-string "Fri, 13 Feb 2015 14:40:02 +0000"))) > >> > >> run faster in a newly started Emacs than in one that has been running > >> for a long time? > > > > Hi Lars, > > > > It becomes slower and slower: > > [...] > > Cool! Then at least we've found the culprit. :-) > > Now we just have to find out why. Does anybody have any idea? Could > somebody else also try running the benchmark form up there in a newly > started Emacs and one that's been running for a while to see if they can > reproduce this bug? IMO, the benchmark needs to be changed to factor out GC, because the time a GC takes depends on the number and structure of objects you have in your session, and that has nothing to do with the issue at hand. So a better benchmark is this: (let ((gc-cons-threshold most-positive-fixnum)) (benchmark-run 1 (dotimes (i 10000) (parse-time-string "Fri, 13 Feb 2015 14:40:02 +0000")))) FWIW, this takes 1.2 sec in a fresh "emacs -Q", and 2.0 sec in a full-blown session running for 5 days. That's clearly different from the data presented by Peter (but I don't use Gnus). From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Nicolas Richard Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 10:07:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , pmlists@free.fr, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.14558764067631 (code B ref 18522); Fri, 19 Feb 2016 10:07:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2016 10:06:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33511 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aWhxW-0001z0-HC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 05:06:46 -0500 Received: from mxin.ulb.ac.be ([164.15.128.112]:41036) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aWhxU-0001yr-27 for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 05:06:44 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArUEAJ7oxlakD4Xx/2dsb2JhbABegmmEeblPhg0CgiEBAQEBAQFlJ4RCAQV5EAgDISUPAQRJiC28X4pNiG8FlweWcYVgjkdig2U7iGoBAQE Received: from mathsrv4.ulb.ac.be (HELO localhost) ([164.15.133.241]) by smtp.ulb.ac.be with ESMTP; 19 Feb 2016 11:05:51 +0100 From: Nicolas Richard References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 11:06:32 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 19 Feb 2016 10:38:59 +0200") Message-ID: <87mvqxvwt3.fsf@members.fsf.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Eli Zaretskii writes: > So a better benchmark is this: > > (let ((gc-cons-threshold most-positive-fixnum)) > (benchmark-run 1 > (dotimes (i 10000) > (parse-time-string "Fri, 13 Feb 2015 14:40:02 +0000")))) > > FWIW, this takes 1.2 sec in a fresh "emacs -Q", and 2.0 sec in a > full-blown session running for 5 days. That's clearly different from > the data presented by Peter (but I don't use Gnus). in my 9 days uptime session, I get (18.433154005 0 0.0) from -Q I get : (7.823626407 0 0.0) from a fresh emacs session where I forcibly loaded libraries similar to my 9-days-old one, I get: (8.661741842 0 0.0) Perhaps I should go back to optimized builds instead... other than that, it seems that there is indeed a problem with the older session. -- Nicolas From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: peder@klingenberg.no (Peder O. Klingenberg) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 10:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.14558767698165 (code B ref 18522); Fri, 19 Feb 2016 10:13:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2016 10:12:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33521 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aWi3N-00027d-Dc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 05:12:49 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:48269) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aWi3L-00027U-Ez for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 05:12:48 -0500 Received: from luna.netfonds.no ([80.91.225.79] helo=luna) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aWi2x-0001qO-0M for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 11:12:23 +0100 Received: by luna (Postfix, from userid 547) id F39324E0882; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 11:12:22 +0100 (CET) From: peder@klingenberg.no (Peder O. Klingenberg) Organization: Persons in a Position to Know, inc. References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 11:12:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 19 Feb 2016 10:38:59 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1aWi2x-0001qO-0M X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: pok@luna.netfonds.no MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1456481544.50391@Qu8AH9hWVe/yBoc5GKzWsg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) On Fri, Feb 19 2016 at 10:38, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > So a better benchmark is this: > > (let ((gc-cons-threshold most-positive-fixnum)) > (benchmark-run 1 > (dotimes (i 10000) > (parse-time-string "Fri, 13 Feb 2015 14:40:02 +0000")))) In my case, the timings are similar to the runs without GC suppression. emacs -Q: (0.376852402 0 0.0) (0.359729575 0 0.0) (0.351677433 0 0.0) My 38-day uptime workhorse-emacs: (33.980759168 0 0.0) (33.741870707 0 0.0) (33.947532796 0 0.0) ...Peder... -- I wish a new life awaited _me_ in some off-world colony. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 22:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: pmlists@free.fr, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145592201818949 (code B ref 18522); Fri, 19 Feb 2016 22:47:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2016 22:46:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34336 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aWtpB-0004vZ-Nv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 17:46:57 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:39227) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aWtp9-0004vQ-GO for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 17:46:56 -0500 Received: from 203-174-152-162.cust.static-ipl.aapt.com.au ([203.174.152.162] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aWtoi-0002bT-CM; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 23:46:29 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:46:23 +1100 In-Reply-To: <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 19 Feb 2016 10:38:59 +0200") Message-ID: <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1aWtoi-0002bT-CM X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1456526789.39302@ejH5OpkXjmSGW0igkow9pg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > (let ((gc-cons-threshold most-positive-fixnum)) > (benchmark-run 1 > (dotimes (i 10000) > (parse-time-string "Fri, 13 Feb 2015 14:40:02 +0000")))) > > FWIW, this takes 1.2 sec in a fresh "emacs -Q", and 2.0 sec in a > full-blown session running for 5 days. That's clearly different from > the data presented by Peter (but I don't use Gnus). Well, it's almost twice as slow in a five day old Emacs... doesn't that show that something weird is going on somewhere? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 08:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: pmlists@free.fr, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145595609119930 (code B ref 18522); Sat, 20 Feb 2016 08:15:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2016 08:14:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34537 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aX2gi-0005BL-9X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2016 03:14:51 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40468) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aX2gd-0005B5-P0 for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2016 03:14:47 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aX2gU-00011N-NV for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2016 03:14:38 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55488) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aX2gU-00011J-KC; Sat, 20 Feb 2016 03:14:34 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4763 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aX2gT-0007dY-2a; Sat, 20 Feb 2016 03:14:33 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 10:14:17 +0200 Message-Id: <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:46:23 +1100) References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: pmlists@free.fr, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:46:23 +1100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > (let ((gc-cons-threshold most-positive-fixnum)) > > (benchmark-run 1 > > (dotimes (i 10000) > > (parse-time-string "Fri, 13 Feb 2015 14:40:02 +0000")))) > > > > FWIW, this takes 1.2 sec in a fresh "emacs -Q", and 2.0 sec in a > > full-blown session running for 5 days. That's clearly different from > > the data presented by Peter (but I don't use Gnus). > > Well, it's almost twice as slow in a five day old Emacs... doesn't that > show that something weird is going on somewhere? 2.0 divided by 1.2 is 1.7, not 2. And Peter's data shows a 3.7-fold slowdown after only 3 days. So the difference is IMO striking. Nevertheless, profiling parse-time-string on a more fine-grained level seems the way to go. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 08:34:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145595721421655 (code B ref 18522); Sat, 20 Feb 2016 08:34:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2016 08:33:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34548 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aX2ys-0005dD-Fd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2016 03:33:34 -0500 Received: from smtp07.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.129]:37488 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aX2yq-0005cz-1o for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2016 03:33:32 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.2.219.34]) by mwinf5d14 with ME id LYZL1s00k0l7JQ203YZM2b; Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:33:25 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:33:25 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.2.219.34 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B4F16F17E; Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:33:20 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:33:20 +0100 Message-ID: <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Sat, Feb 20 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > 2.0 divided by 1.2 is 1.7, not 2. And Peter's data shows a 3.7-fold > slowdown after only 3 days. So the difference is IMO striking. Hi, It seems, that the slow-down depends on user activity, not really on uptime. I've 3 running emacs now: one instance that has loaded my personal configuration, another with "emacs -Q" and my normal emacs session with user activity. I observe the slow-down only with the latter. > Nevertheless, profiling parse-time-string on a more fine-grained level > seems the way to go. How please? -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145596191528733 (code B ref 18522); Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:52:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2016 09:51:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34588 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aX4Cg-0007TN-MK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2016 04:51:54 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36123) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aX4Cd-0007T4-5x for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2016 04:51:53 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aX4CT-0008OX-50 for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 20 Feb 2016 04:51:46 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57939) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aX4CT-0008OT-1s; Sat, 20 Feb 2016 04:51:41 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1196 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aX4CR-0001MN-FK; Sat, 20 Feb 2016 04:51:40 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 11:51:24 +0200 Message-Id: <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> (message from Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= on Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:33:20 +0100) References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Peter Münster > Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 18522@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:33:20 +0100 > > > Nevertheless, profiling parse-time-string on a more fine-grained level > > seems the way to go. > > How please? I'd start with profiler.el, to profile the Lisp portions of the function. It's probably best to load the .el file first and profile that, although this could skew the profile (because the byte-compiled version behaves differently). Another possibility is to add calls to float-time to time portions of parse-time-string. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145605242324715 (code B ref 18522); Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:01:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2016 11:00:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35830 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXRkV-0006QZ-2o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 06:00:23 -0500 Received: from smtp05.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.127]:24649 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXRkT-0006QL-D2 for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 06:00:22 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.2.219.34]) by mwinf5d40 with ME id Lz071s00D0l7JQ203z07Tw; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:00:14 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:00:14 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.2.219.34 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2D34CF1F6; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:00:07 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:00:07 +0100 Message-ID: <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Sat, Feb 20 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I'd start with profiler.el, to profile the Lisp portions of the > function. It's probably best to load the .el file first and profile > that, although this could skew the profile (because the byte-compiled > version behaves differently). Here are 2 profiler reports. The first one, where parse-time-string is very slow: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- - command-execute 8396 93% - call-interactively 8396 93% - funcall-interactively 7881 88% - eval-expression 7848 87% - eval 7848 87% - let 7848 87% - while 7848 87% - parse-time-string 7840 87% - let 7836 87% - parse-time-tokenize 7089 79% - let 7073 79% - while 7057 78% - while 6959 77% - and 6891 77% - setq 4445 49% - parse-time-string-chars 4413 49% - let 4301 48% - unwind-protect 4189 46% - progn 4141 46% - let 436 4% - cond 408 4% - string-match 96 1% setq 68 0% set-match-data 4 0% - not 2338 26% - setq 2310 25% - parse-time-string-chars 2282 25% - let 2258 25% - unwind-protect 2170 24% - progn 2126 23% - let 176 1% - cond 160 1% - string-match 24 0% setq 16 0% --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- And this one from "emacs -Q": --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- - command-execute 2643 90% - call-interactively 2643 90% - funcall-interactively 2221 75% - eval-expression 2013 68% - eval 2013 68% - let 2013 68% - while 2013 68% - parse-time-string 2002 68% - let 2002 68% - parse-time-tokenize 1291 44% - let 1283 43% - while 1272 43% - while 1112 38% - and 1044 35% - setq 640 21% - parse-time-string-chars 608 20% - let 557 19% - unwind-protect 461 15% - progn 401 13% - let 345 11% - cond 285 9% - string-match 56 1% setq 40 1% set-match-data 16 0% - not 288 9% - setq 268 9% - parse-time-string-chars 244 8% - let 208 7% - unwind-protect 192 6% - progn 152 5% - let 120 4% - cond 112 3% - string-match 32 1% setq 32 1% set-match-data 4 0% --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- It seems to me, that there is a problem with "progn": Slow emacs: - progn 4141 46% - let 436 4% Fast emacs: - progn 401 13% - let 345 11% What do you think? -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: Eli Zaretskii , larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145605289925468 (code B ref 18522); Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:09:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2016 11:08:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35835 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXRsA-0006ci-S8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 06:08:19 -0500 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:56402) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXRs8-0006cY-NI for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 06:08:17 -0500 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3q7P5B4TD6z3hjVh; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:08:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.68]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3q7P5B31w7zvh2G; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:08:14 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.68]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ih094PRKUqvM; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:08:13 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: x6+bmP4NgvL/I8gtuAGizALyHFZ2NBEA7hstb/w+xjKjGPqHJ8/bRYOuL1Gz4Vdt Received: from linux.local (ppp-93-104-187-69.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.187.69]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:08:13 +0100 (CET) Received: by linux.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 217101E5308; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:08:10 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> X-Yow: I just remembered something about a TOAD! Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:08:09 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> ("Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?="'s message of "Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:00:07 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Peter Münster writes: > It seems to me, that there is a problem with "progn": > > Slow emacs: > - progn 4141 46% > - let 436 4% > > Fast emacs: > - progn 401 13% > - let 345 11% > > > What do you think? progn is very simple, all its time is spent in evaluating the arguments. Does profile actually work for primitives? Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:10:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= , Eli Zaretskii Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145605295525565 (code B ref 18522); Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:10:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2016 11:09:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35840 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXRt5-0006eG-4q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 06:09:15 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:54253) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXRt4-0006e5-G8 for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 06:09:14 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([212.95.7.13]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MGj8j-1akOJu3vUX-00DVcD; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:09:08 +0100 Message-ID: <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:09:04 +0100 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9rdawj.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> In-Reply-To: <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:4o9leqeFaWIT0vxE/2U2yj0I3QGiU0W5W52o62+iAQeFMpL/Iw+ H6I4yiaviSQnk7w5fM/Q0OoZmQKZW+58Ii0iusvJtS7q+VroHNLzCY4oKclwM8I8D3HBEIN iPCgpjsbRqfx0TFZ+Di8en6SPhjw6D+iKefYUX/yab6FmtRW0GZprFjmdWK8QcV0jF/cOdm 3oNVjQzLvZn3e8bAFh7JQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:fQoXB+qVwG8=:Ix5lO3fB90senLsT0k/3ht SUn9dZ9RHzk4s79t9ZhaygA0MLum8oVO3EsglcFM6M9Cf01cjDi4/axoj2SahVoUyclCJ+/fX 7Zy1OsTH5QtsH0qlI/gJ1FLEv/YfVzGBCkSr4ZGvTxOPix6R5OoTIYUI7jXD1mvMeg4ySWHye aqJZxHKI4Htd+2jM8C2EVf5Hpr12pvxtMYGLKNWruxmy8x4a82xVWZ070Sbtb4+7YjfVQ6WDQ Ijs8kdfy5LRbg5mabynvtKpPrNCJqqFdHUJkXHpqYDCIqWCnMWUeaf4kfOMgrPO/qix/dqQOn xc4ndoQowmasdZW1fauyLDqgk50nHrzf847Kw6V+BrNxn/8W+8LWYYnjiPxMjD7nZzffXitYm qu6fQf4o+RssUtDTFK6NKPYDp/BH0OmE9rF/5jV9oxVe8MIbQG/ecyo3Cr41Jzd6Tt3N9UVSf CMmtLl6FZBY15zhDwx9NfqJUQAww8Y7SQuqOSEoM2vJw2D/2uvIok7pUHpxlrYczJMw4+Rs5k QTxDQLFhsME174PHLVmwv6jLRTUG9M0MNv4jRrZhJ3zqWMVP79m2w+Rig53nXV+Z9yXdiI5kK xnMcMhLLXukDZvgDTSAznAOGYAoXHLMTCQwpIbFUHiR/KiV6GbzTyJWn+NC9ik/TH8dXz7tsZ cSrlZFldDAtJrMG2WrHxSlzqsi/WNAYT8wOjYWG5ddkL40FTX6bPFhEbf83ZwmSlLmlHq0cxj YSdur6jbj5eDxognDqNbdsjKGu43zKNvKuBEHR4zwX9RnQV35VbLJstTIJzBXgOFGpU7bQawk S4iqV46+AZsG1CvZXnLXNWKrBX7mA== X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) > It seems to me, that there is a problem with "progn": What do you get when you remove the =E2=80=98save-match-data=E2=80=99 in =E2=80=98parse-time-string-chars=E2=80=99? martin From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:31:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: Eli Zaretskii , larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145605422127791 (code B ref 18522); Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:31:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2016 11:30:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35846 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXSDV-0007EB-7b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 06:30:21 -0500 Received: from smtp05.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.127]:54818 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXSDT-0007Dy-1I for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 06:30:19 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.2.219.34]) by mwinf5d40 with ME id LzWC1s00J0l7JQ203zWCJx; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:30:13 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:30:13 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.2.219.34 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 880CFF1FF; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:30:12 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wq8ridqz.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:30:12 +0100 Message-ID: <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Sun, Feb 21 2016, martin rudalics wrote: > What do you get when you remove the ‘save-match-data’ in > ‘parse-time-string-chars’? Fast emacs: - parse-time-string-chars 386 19% - let 342 17% Slow emacs: - parse-time-string-chars 4122 20% - let 404 1% -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Michael Heerdegen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 13:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: martin rudalics , larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145606211913423 (code B ref 18522); Sun, 21 Feb 2016 13:42:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2016 13:41:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35902 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXUGt-0003UR-CM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 08:41:59 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.3]:53061) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXUGs-0003UE-2c for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 08:41:58 -0500 Received: from drachen.dragon ([92.74.189.190]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M9GYQ-1afgg42Afe-00CiGU; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 14:41:50 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 14:41:49 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> ("Peter \=\?utf-8\?Q\?M\=C3\=BCn\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?ster\=22's\?\= message of "Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:30:12 +0100") Message-ID: <87wppymb8i.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:+qaDcUCiXGDruXoXQzRRg2cTqORIntBdUKtOQJYEAOeFhUvc/dS DeimVNYwtSr8Noil6N217EsfS+rM5O/An7vY5AiB/KLpbPHLwzkvWCwKJh4uJ111SSLNwXV Qi4ncmSvnFF/WdkutjGiStsAqiu0ZItqRfITe7YpCs2Yw5+Tk4/xc6gv7drbwgPWqZqBYWC ZRQVxGg+8Wui7EyM7nUOA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:UJoxRWuV2eg=:szqPcaQQWIYKKpLYtzjxbJ Cciey/+l5DnVBNoaFezAI6Wbopjm0447c6yOZV5LgVrQaRjo6Bqs+AZ741N3TK8UBjkops48I VBHIp+sqApdUG03bo96d0TICPIhoDPUyKEWMTkOKwGpfF/RCM1MBaAepBV4pPyYYA3WFoSAZz mgsOcaJkq4+OV7ynf2n33PEOnMNn/cNq8+woCqVNTXaQ3hbi6xS/OKGzNcG4rnOPiXWJMPuM+ +HLeB5j7M9/GmLiVcJYFthRUZp0vj1/cye7bS26YweNGmxQllJwmotp8R/2uRCmNTnKPfqIwk hte4r7NcvJcPGjiJNi/0n47zP1Xb5izU3Tu/ho3Nsvda81RWK3DI7UQnNu+Gne3USYOMJR6YR RS3siC5p27YUAUplCCho7b2F88pDqhlPdBPm68AG3SWBzVKtMWDWeS07Dmp2v9MhvxePdVKyd yyOkhw65rw9ZBAQlEP0BO5RlhehvHp7FnathP3V4pc1Rf+1h6OBWe0Uelb3kWQ2UymZZ5WtuW /4shp0uAgQBcSreimYI2pLizpoX9XVJuNi5eZ85Ai+JXi2Q1oIRlkkzh/FQMfNU79uehsEHDY OFbB7zcn672OnsrmRlE19zDPNvDv50RihLsyMvNdck9UsuRlWwiFIEJ07XoKXsd4jvs3UUjmo nWIeFpFAyJ8iOUF12PV+miGdETD+Uwfph9y+khcQtP5Qrmizw5bPdeF2QQB/XwYTkDHKx3iX9 3upQj3+87wFwZ8nivS/HYhxSWMbNUEzE2vtjj4F5Uu+H8HLRtLWEe1gfTeoa6H5FC8c5VGHXt srXpdPG X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Hi, just a shot in the dark: does (length parse-time-rules) increase when the thing gets slower? Michael. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 14:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Heerdegen Cc: martin rudalics , larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145606335715309 (code B ref 18522); Sun, 21 Feb 2016 14:03:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2016 14:02:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35907 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXUar-0003yq-54 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 09:02:37 -0500 Received: from smtp01.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.123]:55916 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXUap-0003yc-4p for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 09:02:35 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.2.219.34]) by mwinf5d54 with ME id M22N1s00H0l7JQ20322N1S; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:02:28 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:02:28 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.2.219.34 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1E378F211; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:02:22 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87wppymb8i.fsf@web.de> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:02:22 +0100 Message-ID: <87lh6eupox.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Sun, Feb 21 2016, Michael Heerdegen wrote: > just a shot in the dark: does (length parse-time-rules) increase when > the thing gets slower? No. In all cases it's 13. -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 14:37:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: Eli Zaretskii , larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145606539118476 (code B ref 18522); Sun, 21 Feb 2016 14:37:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2016 14:36:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35921 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXV7f-0004nw-Bf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 09:36:31 -0500 Received: from smtp01.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.123]:29212 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXV7e-0004nk-8j for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 09:36:30 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.2.219.34]) by mwinf5d54 with ME id M2cM1s00y0l7JQ2032cMeG; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:36:24 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:36:24 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.2.219.34 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7D2E5F214; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:36:21 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <831tqyvph5.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:36:21 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> ("Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?="'s message of "Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:30:12 +0100") Message-ID: <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) The problem seems to be string-match: (defun my-parse-time-string-test () (let (case-fold-search) (string-match "x" "x"))) (let ((gc-cons-threshold most-positive-fixnum)) (benchmark-run 1 (dotimes (i 100000) (my-parse-time-string-test)))) Fast emacs: (0.094749241 0 0.0) Slow emacs: (1.802927531 0 0.0) -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 14:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: Eli Zaretskii , larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145606649220099 (code B ref 18522); Sun, 21 Feb 2016 14:55:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2016 14:54:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35929 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXVPP-0005E7-VM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 09:54:52 -0500 Received: from smtp01.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.123]:20876 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXVPO-0005Du-Nf for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 09:54:51 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.2.219.34]) by mwinf5d54 with ME id M2uk1s00E0l7JQ2032ukFf; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:54:44 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:54:44 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.2.219.34 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0CAA4F216; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:54:44 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:54:43 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> ("Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?="'s message of "Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:36:21 +0100") Message-ID: <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Sun, Feb 21 2016, Peter Münster wrote: > The problem seems to be string-match: Sorry, I was wrong. The problem seems to be the binding of case-fold-search: (defun my-parse-time-string-test () (let (case-fold-search) t)) (let ((gc-cons-threshold most-positive-fixnum)) (benchmark-run 1 (dotimes (i 100000) (my-parse-time-string-test)))) Fast emacs: (0.054105733 0 0.0) Slow emacs: (1.754813882 0 0.0) -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 16:15:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145607128427990 (code B ref 18522); Sun, 21 Feb 2016 16:15:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2016 16:14:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36516 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXWei-0007HO-G2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:14:44 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47241) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXWeg-0007HB-N0 for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:14:43 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXWeX-0004hR-FQ for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:14:37 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37015) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXWeX-0004hN-Bj; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:14:33 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4094 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aXWeU-0003pH-1Q; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:14:31 -0500 Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 18:14:18 +0200 Message-Id: <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> (message from Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= on Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:54:43 +0100) References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87lhp6q2dm.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83vboau92s.fsf@gnu.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Peter Münster > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:54:43 +0100 > > Sorry, I was wrong. The problem seems to be the binding of > case-fold-search: > > (defun my-parse-time-string-test () > (let (case-fold-search) > t)) > > (let ((gc-cons-threshold most-positive-fixnum)) > (benchmark-run 1 > (dotimes (i 100000) (my-parse-time-string-test)))) > > Fast emacs: (0.054105733 0 0.0) > Slow emacs: (1.754813882 0 0.0) Does this happen only with this particular symbol, or binding any symbol slows down? From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 18:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.14560778445775 (code B ref 18522); Sun, 21 Feb 2016 18:05:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2016 18:04:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36544 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXYMV-0001V4-T5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 13:04:04 -0500 Received: from smtp05.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.127]:28566 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXYMU-0001UZ-0T for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 13:04:02 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.2.219.34]) by mwinf5d62 with ME id M63p1s00L0l7JQ20363pDY; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 19:03:55 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 19:03:55 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.2.219.34 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 314CBF223; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 19:03:49 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 19:03:49 +0100 Message-ID: <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Sun, Feb 21 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Does this happen only with this particular symbol, or binding any > symbol slows down? It depends on the symbol: case-fold-search: slow fill-column: slow just-a-symbol: fast custom-file: fast Can you reproduce it? -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 20:46:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145608756120197 (code B ref 18522); Sun, 21 Feb 2016 20:46:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2016 20:46:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36584 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXatE-0005Fh-Pr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:46:00 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46909) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXatA-0005FT-Ej for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:45:59 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXat1-0004ti-0a for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:45:51 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41788) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXat0-0004tY-M3; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:45:46 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4360 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aXasz-0005Qs-OS; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 15:45:46 -0500 Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 22:45:34 +0200 Message-Id: <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> (message from Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= on Sun, 21 Feb 2016 19:03:49 +0100) References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mw9fczbo.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Peter Münster > Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 19:03:49 +0100 > > On Sun, Feb 21 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Does this happen only with this particular symbol, or binding any > > symbol slows down? > > It depends on the symbol: > > case-fold-search: slow > fill-column: slow > just-a-symbol: fast > custom-file: fast > > Can you reproduce it? I see a 5-fold slow-down with case-fold-search, not a 30-fold as you reported. It sounds like the difference is between buffer-local variables and global variables. Setting the former will potentially loop over all the buffers and set the value for every buffer that doesn't have a local value. See data.c around line 1517. How many buffers do you have in the "slow" version? I have 230. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 07:38:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145612666321091 (code B ref 18522); Mon, 22 Feb 2016 07:38:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2016 07:37:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36772 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXl3v-0005U6-5Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 02:37:43 -0500 Received: from smtp10.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.132]:54341 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXl3t-0005Ts-36 for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 02:37:41 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.2.219.34]) by mwinf5d45 with ME id MKdV1s00j0l7JQ203KdWdS; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 08:37:34 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 08:37:34 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.2.219.34 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AC7A7F285; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 08:37:29 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 08:37:29 +0100 Message-ID: <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Sun, Feb 21 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > How many buffers do you have in the "slow" version? I have 230. 12. (Because regularly I kill unused buffers...) What happens, if you kill 90% of your buffers? Does my-parse-time-string-test get faster? -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 16:24:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145615818924582 (code B ref 18522); Mon, 22 Feb 2016 16:24:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2016 16:23:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38254 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXtGO-0006OQ-O1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 11:23:08 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33336) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXtGK-0006Nh-GH for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 11:23:07 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXtGA-0001Vb-Jy for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 11:22:59 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:39101) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXtGA-0001VX-G8; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 11:22:54 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1226 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aXtG9-0005W5-L6; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 11:22:54 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 18:22:44 +0200 Message-Id: <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> (message from Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= on Mon, 22 Feb 2016 08:37:29 +0100) References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87zj8inrnv.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tltq3j9.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Peter Münster > Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 08:37:29 +0100 > > On Sun, Feb 21 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > How many buffers do you have in the "slow" version? I have 230. > > 12. (Because regularly I kill unused buffers...) Curiouser and curiouser... I just tried this in another, larger session (with more than 500 buffers), and got a 10-fold slowdown there. So this is definitely correlated to some measure of the session's size, although perhaps not the number of the buffers. Plus, it sounds like symbols that can be buffer-local share this problem. Can you try several more buffer-local and not buffer-local symbols, to see if indeed the conclusion is valid? > What happens, if you kill 90% of your buffers? Sorry, I can't: this is my main session where I do everything. And chances are killing them won't change the results, judging by your measurements. I think the next step is to profile the code below "let". Can you try using 'perf' for that purpose? From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 20:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145617368823508 (code B ref 18522); Mon, 22 Feb 2016 20:42:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2016 20:41:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38524 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXxIO-000676-LZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 15:41:28 -0500 Received: from smtp02.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.124]:44143 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXxIN-00066t-AZ for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 15:41:27 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.14.65.45]) by mwinf5d49 with ME id MYhC1s00A0yazV603YhCf2; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 21:41:20 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 21:41:20 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.14.65.45 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 07042F2F4; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 21:41:12 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 21:41:11 +0100 Message-ID: <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Mon, Feb 22 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I think the next step is to profile the code below "let". Can you try > using 'perf' for that purpose? Slow emacs: almost all time is spent in Fset_default (96%) Fast emacs: 25.36% emacs emacs [.] eval_sub 10.73% emacs emacs [.] Fset_default 9.63% emacs emacs [.] Flength 6.54% emacs emacs [.] unbind_to 5.44% emacs emacs [.] hash_lookup 4.53% emacs emacs [.] Flet You can try it too on your running sessions: "perf record -p PID" and then "perf report". (just use something like "dotimes (i 1000000000)") -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 20:58:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145617462924866 (code B ref 18522); Mon, 22 Feb 2016 20:58:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2016 20:57:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38530 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXxXW-0006Sx-36 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 15:57:09 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35565) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXxXR-0006SQ-5U for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 15:57:04 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXxXI-0001tL-CN for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 15:56:56 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:45695) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXxXI-0001tH-8j; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 15:56:52 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1602 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aXxXH-0007B8-7f; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 15:56:51 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 22:56:43 +0200 Message-Id: <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> (message from Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= on Mon, 22 Feb 2016 21:41:11 +0100) References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <877fvli0qt.fsf@building.gnus.org> <87bnkb1n9w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Peter Münster > Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 21:41:11 +0100 > > On Mon, Feb 22 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > I think the next step is to profile the code below "let". Can you try > > using 'perf' for that purpose? > > Slow emacs: almost all time is spent in Fset_default (96%) > > Fast emacs: > 25.36% emacs emacs [.] eval_sub > 10.73% emacs emacs [.] Fset_default > 9.63% emacs emacs [.] Flength > 6.54% emacs emacs [.] unbind_to > 5.44% emacs emacs [.] hash_lookup > 4.53% emacs emacs [.] Flet So now the question becomes: which part of Fset_default? I thought it was the loop over all the buffers, but your session seems to say it couldn't be. Then what is it? > You can try it too on your running sessions: "perf record -p PID" and > then "perf report". (just use something like "dotimes (i 1000000000)") Alas, there's no 'perf' on MS-Windows (nor anything like it, AFAIK). From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 11:20:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145622638612418 (code B ref 18522); Tue, 23 Feb 2016 11:20:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Feb 2016 11:19:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39317 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYB0M-0003EE-FR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 06:19:46 -0500 Received: from smtp10.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.132]:33348 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYB0K-0003E0-QO for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 06:19:45 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.14.65.45]) by mwinf5d33 with ME id MnKW1s0160yazV603nKXPY; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:19:38 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:19:38 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.14.65.45 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BBCADF345; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:19:30 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:19:30 +0100 Message-ID: <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Mon, Feb 22 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > So now the question becomes: which part of Fset_default? I thought it > was the loop over all the buffers, but your session seems to say it > couldn't be. Why? This is what I read in buffer.h: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- /* Chain of all buffers, including killed ones. */ extern struct buffer *all_buffers; /* Used to iterate over the chain above. */ #define FOR_EACH_BUFFER(b) \ for ((b) = all_buffers; (b); (b) = (b)->next) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- "including killed ones" ! That means, the chain gets bigger and bigger, whenever I read an article or I reply or I send a new message or whatever. I've added a small patch to Fset_default: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- struct buffer *b; int i = 0; FOR_EACH_BUFFER (b) { i++; if (!PER_BUFFER_VALUE_P (b, idx)) set_per_buffer_value (b, offset, value); } fprintf(stderr, "length of all_buffers: %d\n", i); --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Let's see, how the chain grows... (or not) -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145624465912264 (code B ref 18522); Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:25:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Feb 2016 16:24:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41540 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYFl5-0003Bk-Kw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 11:24:19 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46273) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYFl3-0003BV-Au for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 11:24:18 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYFku-0007yI-HT for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 11:24:12 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:43313) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYFku-0007yD-EY; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 11:24:08 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2528 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aYFkn-0003UI-VH; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 11:24:07 -0500 Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 18:23:56 +0200 Message-Id: <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> (message from Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= on Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:19:30 +0100) References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Peter Münster > Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:19:30 +0100 > > On Mon, Feb 22 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > So now the question becomes: which part of Fset_default? I thought it > > was the loop over all the buffers, but your session seems to say it > > couldn't be. > > Why? Because your session has very few buffers, and yet you see a much more massive slowdown. > This is what I read in buffer.h: > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > /* Chain of all buffers, including killed ones. */ > > extern struct buffer *all_buffers; > > /* Used to iterate over the chain above. */ > > #define FOR_EACH_BUFFER(b) \ > for ((b) = all_buffers; (b); (b) = (b)->next) > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > "including killed ones" ! You interpret that comment too literally: it means killed buffers that were not yet GC'ed. You will see in alloc.c that sweep_buffers removes killed buffers from all_buffers and recycles their memory. > That means, the chain gets bigger and bigger, whenever I read an article > or I reply or I send a new message or whatever. If Emacs did that, it would have been a very serious bug and a huge memory sink. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:37:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145624536213649 (code B ref 18522); Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:37:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Feb 2016 16:36:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41553 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYFwQ-0003Y5-Lz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 11:36:02 -0500 Received: from smtp12.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.134]:55527 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYFwP-0003XY-ML for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 11:36:02 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.14.65.45]) by mwinf5d35 with ME id Msbq1s00c0yazV603sbrKy; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 17:35:55 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 17:35:55 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.14.65.45 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 962F7F363; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 17:35:50 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 17:35:50 +0100 Message-ID: <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Tue, Feb 23 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > You interpret that comment too literally: it means killed buffers that > were not yet GC'ed. You will see in alloc.c that sweep_buffers > removes killed buffers from all_buffers and recycles their memory. Ok, thanks for the explanation. My current emacs session is running now since 5 hours. The length of the chain is 131. And this is my buffer list: .%* *Article inbox* 1592 Article %* *Summary inbox* 85 Summary % *Group* 41 Group %* *Completions* 180 Completion List *scratch* 141 Lisp Interaction %* *Messages* 446718 Messages * todo.org 147282 Org ~/todo/todo.org I guess, that the slow-down is related to the chain-length. What do you think? -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: Eli Zaretskii , larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145624611615020 (code B ref 18522); Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:49:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Feb 2016 16:48:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41567 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYG8Z-0003uC-W5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 11:48:36 -0500 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:54877) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYG8Y-0003u4-K7 for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 11:48:35 -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de Received: from relay1.suse.de (charybdis-ext.suse.de [195.135.220.254]) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EEC0AC0E; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 16:48:33 +0000 (UTC) From: Andreas Schwab References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> X-Yow: -- In 1962, you could buy a pair of SHARKSKIN SLACKS, with a ``Continental Belt,'' for $10.99!! Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 17:48:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> ("Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?="'s message of "Tue, 23 Feb 2016 17:35:50 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Peter Münster writes: > My current emacs session is running now since 5 hours. The length of the > chain is 131. And this is my buffer list: > > .%* *Article inbox* 1592 Article > %* *Summary inbox* 85 Summary > % *Group* 41 Group > %* *Completions* 180 Completion List > *scratch* 141 Lisp Interaction > %* *Messages* 446718 Messages > * todo.org 147282 Org ~/todo/todo.org Note that buffers starting with a space are hidden from C-x C-b. You can only see them in (buffer-list), or by completing a space in C-x b. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE 1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 17:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145624964320853 (code B ref 18522); Tue, 23 Feb 2016 17:48:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Feb 2016 17:47:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41603 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYH3T-0005QH-Fw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:47:23 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56783) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYH3S-0005Q5-PK for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:47:23 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYH3H-0003Kf-MB for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:47:17 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:45827) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYH3H-0003K9-Em; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:47:11 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2662 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aYH3G-0007Lg-LT; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:47:11 -0500 Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 19:47:04 +0200 Message-Id: <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> (message from Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= on Tue, 23 Feb 2016 17:35:50 +0100) References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Peter Münster > Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 17:35:50 +0100 > > My current emacs session is running now since 5 hours. The length of the > chain is 131. And this is my buffer list: > > .%* *Article inbox* 1592 Article > %* *Summary inbox* 85 Summary > % *Group* 41 Group > %* *Completions* 180 Completion List > *scratch* 141 Lisp Interaction > %* *Messages* 446718 Messages > * todo.org 147282 Org ~/todo/todo.org > > I guess, that the slow-down is related to the chain-length. What do you think? We need to time that loop to be sure. Can you do that with 'perf', or add a call to gettimeofday before and after, and see how much time it takes as the list of buffers grows? Thanks. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Andreas Schwab Cc: Eli Zaretskii , larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.14563093719884 (code B ref 18522); Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:23:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2016 10:22:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42490 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYWao-0002ZM-TA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 05:22:51 -0500 Received: from smtp04.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.126]:54160 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYWam-0002Z5-FA for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 05:22:48 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.14.65.45]) by mwinf5d39 with ME id NANa1s0060yazV603ANawg; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 11:22:41 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 11:22:41 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.14.65.45 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 134F0F3BD; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 11:22:34 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 11:22:34 +0100 Message-ID: <871t82qufp.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Tue, Feb 23 2016, Andreas Schwab wrote: > Note that buffers starting with a space are hidden from C-x C-b. You > can only see them in (buffer-list), or by completing a space in C-x b. Ok. There are some hidden buffers (from Gnus). (length (buffer-list)) -> 27 length of all_buffers -> 162 What do you think about the difference? Bug or not? Any explanation? -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:26:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145630951810138 (code B ref 18522); Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:26:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2016 10:25:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42495 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYWdC-0002dR-AI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 05:25:18 -0500 Received: from smtp04.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.126]:34610 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYWdB-0002d8-5Z for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 05:25:17 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.14.65.45]) by mwinf5d39 with ME id NARB1s0020yazV603ARBcx; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 11:25:11 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 11:25:11 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.14.65.45 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DB6A9F3BF; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 11:25:10 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 11:25:10 +0100 Message-ID: <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Tue, Feb 23 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > We need to time that loop to be sure. Can you do that with 'perf', How please? > or add a call to gettimeofday before and after, and see how much time > it takes as the list of buffers grows? Then, I would need to restart emacs. If it's possible to measure the time without restarting it, that would be better. -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:36:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii , Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145631014511180 (code B ref 18522); Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:36:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2016 10:35:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42514 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYWnI-0002uF-QW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 05:35:44 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:62544) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYWnG-0002u0-IS for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 05:35:42 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([212.95.7.120]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LyVIk-1ZuMMr2n14-015tNa; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 11:15:35 +0100 Message-ID: <56CD82C0.9080302@gmx.at> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 11:15:28 +0100 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:29riLDnAyTgvkCF8YXtPte3YnUVUr9A8QSv8nmKexTUkA4/LldW TVel48+NEFCgJYhh+y1FowB0sztHRuDyxM49TdYUxocKC2i4/vRAR04amORMbGRBQlHCSSE e3ccBR8qz1dOr+HSZ57tznF4gqpCnfwBxpVE3Izt3lPGcmhX9oumMLEIYeWYCf0bV1dZHup cr5b8kTD/x3cY3Uw9heWg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:CfsRRFrKJws=:uJ+i4tSc8pekwxdF/dduNW 0DEgrxoD8m5m5wLGnNRoOZ2Qbiz4brTisLqn+1//2K/Z4pkWMp6VEhLEbggdt4eynDQ5Nb2ml G4WGRppd+oR/t2Qph4KUca1KhxSCHv2JvhjGogULNhY8V7BielIYhu5L7FA539jSWRgiKf9D/ Qtj+4YG9bfoNoORveyK6F0DQu1vkE6ZrLZmD6DMuOhLqjL2O8wjupm8yVtPYJDSnfuXcaQr0t ExWcjTPzJS0k8z8TbJRHG4SVQZ71MCBL5jg/4Bbv5EoJQygWyiiNWLu3l1b78kTFbDyTc04d6 RPt/5+zAl7zeL8KS7LeJFnIwLt2HAFpvKWY9QstNmX/xXsX9+ksbl1FXXJsH8s6m6cfbSoawr AjNlHpa3EVWlSi5zP81zYPesfekGzlSOm08CoqVGNRXQsCkrKifLF8edYO5pnnYDXUJhJ05e5 PW5PkBqLN6lV5BQ97SJEyhDFyqwfncNfCRIIW9BTiwUK/akz0eXmbfg2glqxDN511rTjks48+ tPvWw/UEZ8wdrj0crTptf/1x3Z3Ib+DcOzKDliZj3mEu5gCntulkxOsYb7GjZY6CjKU/n8943 h+3+spqtMzlUjUdSmyVFkL9n4SjtwI9AJqtZbATiJmg7gGMxHnfJEXS3IU73nqulMNkLqs97i DOaU+p61cKORTdUuIYxdxHsiWIz9D7zTKcg1/wm3fHOBxzJCBZjJdz5ucNYfy5byt3MK9aedw OsRasLkitW2WsJm1u347borBt65JviAraPuWzORtPAzSt9gXLPEINup5o/FoNOqlmA/mDNFDv ltQenHJaw9pR9TlMZtR6WMupnt76g== X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) > You interpret that comment too literally: it means killed buffers that > were not yet GC'ed. You will see in alloc.c that sweep_buffers > removes killed buffers from all_buffers and recycles their memory. Doesn't that remove unmarked buffers only? >> That means, the chain gets bigger and bigger, whenever I read an article >> or I reply or I send a new message or whatever. > > If Emacs did that, it would have been a very serious bug and a huge > memory sink. One potential hole are window configurations. Each window maintains two lists for navigating the buffers previously shown in that window. For live windows, these lists are hopefully updated when killing a buffer. But if you store such a window in a window configuration and forget about that configuration, the buffers from those lists are not reclaimed IIUC. BTW, I have no idea why FOR_EACH_BUFFER should be used outside alloc.c. martin From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 17:40:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.14563355646790 (code B ref 18522); Wed, 24 Feb 2016 17:40:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2016 17:39:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44072 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYdPI-0001lS-9y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 12:39:24 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45986) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYdPG-0001lD-G2 for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 12:39:22 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYdP7-0003Ts-Db for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 12:39:17 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:47297) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYdP6-0003TK-CV; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 12:39:13 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3757 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aYdP5-0002zB-IS; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 12:39:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 19:39:09 +0200 Message-Id: <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> (message from Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= on Wed, 24 Feb 2016 11:25:10 +0100) References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Peter Münster > Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 11:25:10 +0100 > > On Tue, Feb 23 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > We need to time that loop to be sure. Can you do that with 'perf', > > How please? "perf annotate", perhaps? > > or add a call to gettimeofday before and after, and see how much time > > it takes as the list of buffers grows? > > Then, I would need to restart emacs. If it's possible to measure the > time without restarting it, that would be better. Yes, of course. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 17:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: larsi@gnus.org, pmlists@free.fr, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.14563357777111 (code B ref 18522); Wed, 24 Feb 2016 17:43:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2016 17:42:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44077 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYdSi-0001qd-RW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 12:42:57 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47229) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYdSh-0001qS-NH for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 12:42:55 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYdSY-0004np-3y for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 12:42:50 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:47363) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYdSY-0004nl-0J; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 12:42:46 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3762 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aYdSW-0003Oj-7q; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 12:42:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 19:42:41 +0200 Message-Id: <83twkygg32.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <56CD82C0.9080302@gmx.at> (message from martin rudalics on Wed, 24 Feb 2016 11:15:28 +0100) References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <56CD82C0.9080302@gmx.at> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 11:15:28 +0100 > From: martin rudalics > CC: larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org > > > You interpret that comment too literally: it means killed buffers that > > were not yet GC'ed. You will see in alloc.c that sweep_buffers > > removes killed buffers from all_buffers and recycles their memory. > > Doesn't that remove unmarked buffers only? Of course. But why would killed buffers be marked? > >> That means, the chain gets bigger and bigger, whenever I read an article > >> or I reply or I send a new message or whatever. > > > > If Emacs did that, it would have been a very serious bug and a huge > > memory sink. > > One potential hole are window configurations. Each window maintains two > lists for navigating the buffers previously shown in that window. For > live windows, these lists are hopefully updated when killing a buffer. > But if you store such a window in a window configuration and forget > about that configuration, the buffers from those lists are not reclaimed > IIUC. What do you mean by "forget"? Forgetting a Lisp object means it is not referenced by any other object, so it will be GCed, together with the buffers it references. Right? > BTW, I have no idea why FOR_EACH_BUFFER should be used outside alloc.c. What would you use instead? From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 18:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.14563368178849 (code B ref 18522); Wed, 24 Feb 2016 18:01:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2016 18:00:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44094 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYdjU-0002If-UW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 13:00:17 -0500 Received: from smtp12.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.134]:40664 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYdjT-0002IN-8F for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 13:00:15 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.14.65.45]) by mwinf5d47 with ME id NJ071s0080yazV603J0751; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 19:00:08 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 19:00:08 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.14.65.45 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1655AF403; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 19:00:07 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 19:00:07 +0100 Message-ID: <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Wed, Feb 24 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > "perf annotate", perhaps? Thanks, what a great tool! perf report: 33.17% emacs emacs [.] Fset_default Uptime is only about 1 day now. Length of all_buffers is 207. perf annotate: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- │ Fset_default(): │ set it in the buffers that don't nominally have a local value. */ │ if (idx > 0) │ { │ struct buffer *b; │ int i = 0; │ FOR_EACH_BUFFER (b) 15.68 │101: mov 0x2d8(%rcx),%rcx 19.34 │ test %rcx,%rcx 5.39 │ ↑ jne f0 │ { │ i++; │ if (!PER_BUFFER_VALUE_P (b, idx)) │ set_per_buffer_value (b, offset, value); │ } │ fprintf(stderr, "XXXXX: %d\n", i); 0.07 │10d: mov stderr@@GLIBC_2.2.5,%rdi 2.49 │ mov $0x5e90e5,%esi │ xor %eax,%eax --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 18:17:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: larsi@gnus.org, pmlists@free.fr, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145633780710399 (code B ref 18522); Wed, 24 Feb 2016 18:17:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2016 18:16:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44122 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYdzT-0002hc-J8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 13:16:47 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:58315) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYdzR-0002h4-6A for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 13:16:45 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([212.95.7.18]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lt2BW-1ZolLT1y8I-012cAF; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 19:16:37 +0100 Message-ID: <56CDF37B.6050002@gmx.at> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 19:16:27 +0100 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <56CD82C0.9080302@gmx.at> <83twkygg32.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83twkygg32.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:0YHMAm/IjgUfssG4tnqfRVwvD9bXFVxDmZ++UsqDo4enT1XXmLF RZoe36UPiMH+OWRk4OtXziCfzyt+nOet7xPCPMRzY367ADW4vWVJ2HkhaqBDKcnGq9o3H4K yyQj/u6asYUzmrLIrx9vx9VC8uvNce5Chn5SvqCipxH2sVuO17oTJQgex4M+aVEtS3KTDon zpjNjvHGl9icWmbl/Og0g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:pWx4bVZuXv0=:LOmsRrUDjL6aygjg3ngyKJ HzFytDLxwRajMTub7Apy0XRkK6LpgA3RgnggUgFZ4Lgd+q5yhNxJOzoqW476oLEhbamtoFGIq n1NCVpg9HkUOz7Z9jxjzyFF+J0FVFCA5m4SrH0YXHVWKX4CYtvdpSE8etHi7pl6fYqC//P8bA 0T8Kqp96KAazUsMOuMW74G19QMaxwBtORdmxaUFpj71mYC3zqAiH1Of2lUOaf+AKEYhxeElwV Cs8uUX18H5eLs40F1djT4p9IFr1LIZ/o/GZkIv0NEu5M373KoVQT4oNNOrCeN8hh15EBHjrl0 vy2BSChAt3Z+lqIQnK+aBDB4PMwERjjcXu1ltgFsgRvZnTwZ4YaZiDWJ6cDOd6OErgVQ5JHpf YcPAWctWU8iN6R7RzKxh9I2pBYQNVXSEYK+Ca+3OL8HtHsrqCkkpIcq5V0OrB9k3MzyZKoudx 8ECK3IhhhGaELcd4p2tlgqbXIzdGDXIjhbo29n3+BETkjJHqJVW4PJ9BeTvXOMUdLc+r9B/AL WCQINL8n2aPvR4jwNydOb/UUU/KSnt7Dk1C3ht8yircwG0vvfoGmKYMu/c2dqzPiBt/hlekFl lxP7H++5lMqVf0AeobdXYicJHetwx5ckq6VZovhipDT70270p4jy9LLV+OJoHCly9W+kyh75z 0NSUL6hl8xhJMC/qgdvucXFAli14WPkGI+cPuD3/kppu4ZJP+UiORd0PZyGzgiADu9GMA54TS PNFvoOSvVA5DpunAHfOGerE4lTcFSjiw/httTrHs8hpnAwqPEWYKzg35VwKwkVsqYrbRZbI1D PS6HzFY5ZT+r26vPcGmmTWttDVZsw== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) > Of course. But why would killed buffers be marked? Because they are still referenced from somewhere else. > What do you mean by "forget"? Forgetting a Lisp object means it is > not referenced by any other object, so it will be GCed, together with > the buffers it references. Right? Each window in a window configuration stores all the buffers it has ever shown. Now window configurations are sometimes stored in registers. I could imagine users that store a couple of configurations in registers and "forget" about them in the sense that they do not restore from some of those stored configurations for quite some time or the rest of the session. >> BTW, I have no idea why FOR_EACH_BUFFER should be used outside alloc.c. > > What would you use instead? A macro that excludes killed buffers. What's the purpose of if (!PER_BUFFER_VALUE_P (b, idx)) set_per_buffer_value (b, offset, value); in a killed buffer? martin From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 18:24:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145633823511209 (code B ref 18522); Wed, 24 Feb 2016 18:24:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2016 18:23:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44150 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYe6N-0002uj-DU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 13:23:55 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34462) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYe6L-0002uW-L2 for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 13:23:53 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYe6C-0000rk-Sz for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 13:23:48 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48241) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYe6C-0000rg-K4; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 13:23:44 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3813 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aYe6B-0007ZY-9r; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 13:23:43 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 20:23:40 +0200 Message-Id: <83io1ege6r.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> (message from Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= on Wed, 24 Feb 2016 19:00:07 +0100) References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Peter Münster > Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 19:00:07 +0100 > > perf report: > > 33.17% emacs emacs [.] Fset_default > > Uptime is only about 1 day now. Length of all_buffers is 207. > > perf annotate: > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > │ Fset_default(): > │ set it in the buffers that don't nominally have a local value. */ > │ if (idx > 0) > │ { > │ struct buffer *b; > │ int i = 0; > │ FOR_EACH_BUFFER (b) > 15.68 │101: mov 0x2d8(%rcx),%rcx > 19.34 │ test %rcx,%rcx > 5.39 │ ↑ jne f0 > │ { > │ i++; > │ if (!PER_BUFFER_VALUE_P (b, idx)) > │ set_per_buffer_value (b, offset, value); > │ } > │ fprintf(stderr, "XXXXX: %d\n", i); > 0.07 │10d: mov stderr@@GLIBC_2.2.5,%rdi > 2.49 │ mov $0x5e90e5,%esi > │ xor %eax,%eax > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- What is that "f0" there? Can you annotate it as well? Otherwise, this makes no sense to me: the part that takes most of the time is 2 simple instructions. Sounds like we are looking at too small portion of the code, so these are percents of a very small fraction of the total running time. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 18:50:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: larsi@gnus.org, pmlists@free.fr, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145633979513853 (code B ref 18522); Wed, 24 Feb 2016 18:50:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2016 18:49:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44181 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYeVX-0003bN-EG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 13:49:55 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:61640) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYeVV-0003b7-Gl for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 13:49:53 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([212.95.7.18]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MPlsg-1adaBs0Bes-004ykh; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 19:49:46 +0100 Message-ID: <56CDFB41.50408@gmx.at> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 19:49:37 +0100 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <56CD82C0.9080302@gmx.at> <83twkygg32.fsf@gnu.org> <56CDF37B.6050002@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: <56CDF37B.6050002@gmx.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:fH4Tj9Tjm9nc8LSA42ntQJ6IbQi4DUjZDPQYRleHhO/ZzAAgN/Y cM7dOjvnfanxXYoKLDlLkGFXemIcHmM9SSPd2q6IirwFv89NDJcB2F2eznV0aL/W0OzdXLN kGLR1TVby9SOeUQaI3vEeE7gzIbD0YoXL4LEYjIk8oETlkWxsuieeRYRGRWk0GfLGFmEfsg a8js6zg+TNnHHsdzKPsSA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:+VY/0S9+lf8=:nwpxbQ5md4kGDvdUOL1sAp 3Or3MP0vn0WSJbUIG4jefCCawnW9TpLrvUlyUdj8WVWmpGTjtAlIp3jeLV63zLkdLt3bXQv9q yb/7jxcBegoLpm2UbskCparzZQtIGdf88M2zhsXUsQvb0PlZKJR1JI/WzKCisF7HfASkf16L3 EeguJfuBt8O6NNKWfQMACLUlyat0wwoFkGRh1lVeO7UgR5xPm9/1eU3Q87KhgAEmLoWiVmXeq 7xdhWf1q2vx3Jgo7Aw4N0pQ0IvI6tsHPdbD7JaPug6/QMbz6C67rvCqxtA0fR+Ioqgc4PZEyi 1GxCa8qTPjZAuqryTEUoYw2KRotIatU7RMoXGsYw+mWsIsw1424dMQcRlf0BG7gmfainZYruF CIrmJQ9tSGoDLHTLKpZZ+eEM7Mh1znyzr5+UqPaGF14MknsM4WGRt0devX156Bq2IWNWaoEcx 6mUFL5eIOhJQxunApCCnivcICA+Lc/xK/tV5qR2WPC7qZC/0rhTmCNXRAyf+LE5gFZB+mcQsO RCxKTfsqp6CEytKyZDO+7Fw0r9JGQFgEVYJta+W7Jvs4qBJxZV7L9zy+J1lxXVwTwoh3Ayi49 t9rHe03HkLu5fcKlxYrFe/Mmnp4XEn1MquEt7AiAKaF/BSxcmMzp7K5Tuc34jz4j5AqhJTZmn cIt9MeEhMJMat0GbqcK4mnXlHHCfm1duFbNmxS4xOCZF1TW+jZOEBknHTLaD/tMH2NpX774q6 zKlo3cRStribHXvTXINho9MUqNqvPZ7vV9z9j8DxVVqkXJL9x+uXX9DxUmAAwdQPqcXi8NxVf L6OQb9PjqyYar6Rt8rE8/1202hjfw== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) > Each window in a window configuration stores all the buffers it has ever > shown. Now window configurations are sometimes stored in registers. I > could imagine users that store a couple of configurations in registers > and "forget" about them in the sense that they do not restore from some > of those stored configurations for quite some time or the rest of the > session. I just noticed that Stefan fixed that scenario back in 2012. Anyway, something similar seems to happen on Peter's machine. 162 buffers with only 27 live ones cannot be explained by large GC intervals. martin From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 20:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.14563442351814 (code B ref 18522); Wed, 24 Feb 2016 20:04:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2016 20:03:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44248 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYff9-0000TC-Ly for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:03:55 -0500 Received: from smtp02.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.124]:47499 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYff7-0000Sy-T1 for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:03:54 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.14.65.45]) by mwinf5d03 with ME id NL3h1s00C0yazV603L3huT; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 21:03:47 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 21:03:47 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.14.65.45 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5725DF425; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 21:03:41 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83io1ege6r.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 21:03:41 +0100 Message-ID: <87y4a9kh9e.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Wed, Feb 24 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > What is that "f0" there? Can you annotate it as well? Sorry, I thought, that only the part after "Fset_default():" was important. Here something more complete: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- │ /* If this variable is not always local in all buffers, │ set it in the buffers that don't nominally have a local value. */ │ if (idx > 0) │ ↑ jle 95 │ { │ struct buffer *b; │ int i = 0; │ FOR_EACH_BUFFER (b) 0.08 │ mov all_buffers,%rcx │ test %rcx,%rcx │ ↓ je 180 │ { │ i++; │ if (!PER_BUFFER_VALUE_P (b, idx)) 0.02 │ cmp last_per_buffer_idx,%edx │ ↓ jge 160 │ { │ struct buffer *b; │ int i = 0; │ FOR_EACH_BUFFER (b) │ { │ i++; │ mov $0x1,%edx 0.02 │ ↓ jmp f3 │ nop 15.24 │ f0: add $0x1,%edx │ if (!PER_BUFFER_VALUE_P (b, idx)) 14.02 │ f3: cmpb $0x0,0x320(%rcx,%rax,1) 10.65 │ ↓ jne 101 │ set_per_buffer_value(): │ } │ │ INLINE void │ set_per_buffer_value (struct buffer *b, int offset, Lisp_Object value) │ { │ *(Lisp_Object *)(offset + (char *) b) = value; 14.11 │ mov %rbp,(%rcx,%rsi,1) │ Fset_default(): │ set it in the buffers that don't nominally have a local value. */ │ if (idx > 0) │ { │ struct buffer *b; │ int i = 0; │ FOR_EACH_BUFFER (b) 14.36 │101: mov 0x2d8(%rcx),%rcx 21.80 │ test %rcx,%rcx 5.16 │ ↑ jne f0 │ { │ i++; │ if (!PER_BUFFER_VALUE_P (b, idx)) │ set_per_buffer_value (b, offset, value); │ } │ fprintf(stderr, "XXXXX: %d\n", i); 0.00 │10d: mov stderr@@GLIBC_2.2.5,%rdi 2.18 │ mov $0x5e90e5,%esi │ xor %eax,%eax │ → callq fprintf@plt │ ↑ jmpq 95 │ nop --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 20:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.14563455934038 (code B ref 18522); Wed, 24 Feb 2016 20:27:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2016 20:26:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44257 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYg12-000134-Qa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:26:33 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47386) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYg0y-00012p-H7 for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:26:31 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYg0p-0002de-KA for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:26:23 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50604) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYg0p-0002dS-GR; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:26:19 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3971 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aYg0n-0002T9-IQ; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:26:18 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 22:26:15 +0200 Message-Id: <8337shhn2w.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87y4a9kh9e.fsf@roche-blanche.net> (message from Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= on Wed, 24 Feb 2016 21:03:41 +0100) References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83io1ege6r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4a9kh9e.fsf@roche-blanche.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Peter Münster > Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 21:03:41 +0100 > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > │ /* If this variable is not always local in all buffers, > │ set it in the buffers that don't nominally have a local value. */ > │ if (idx > 0) > │ ↑ jle 95 > │ { > │ struct buffer *b; > │ int i = 0; > │ FOR_EACH_BUFFER (b) > 0.08 │ mov all_buffers,%rcx > │ test %rcx,%rcx > │ ↓ je 180 > │ { > │ i++; > │ if (!PER_BUFFER_VALUE_P (b, idx)) > 0.02 │ cmp last_per_buffer_idx,%edx > │ ↓ jge 160 > │ { > │ struct buffer *b; > │ int i = 0; > │ FOR_EACH_BUFFER (b) > │ { > │ i++; > │ mov $0x1,%edx > 0.02 │ ↓ jmp f3 > │ nop > 15.24 │ f0: add $0x1,%edx > │ if (!PER_BUFFER_VALUE_P (b, idx)) > 14.02 │ f3: cmpb $0x0,0x320(%rcx,%rax,1) > 10.65 │ ↓ jne 101 > │ set_per_buffer_value(): > │ } > │ > │ INLINE void > │ set_per_buffer_value (struct buffer *b, int offset, Lisp_Object value) > │ { > │ *(Lisp_Object *)(offset + (char *) b) = value; > 14.11 │ mov %rbp,(%rcx,%rsi,1) > │ Fset_default(): > │ set it in the buffers that don't nominally have a local value. */ > │ if (idx > 0) > │ { > │ struct buffer *b; > │ int i = 0; > │ FOR_EACH_BUFFER (b) > 14.36 │101: mov 0x2d8(%rcx),%rcx > 21.80 │ test %rcx,%rcx > 5.16 │ ↑ jne f0 > │ { > │ i++; > │ if (!PER_BUFFER_VALUE_P (b, idx)) > │ set_per_buffer_value (b, offset, value); > │ } > │ fprintf(stderr, "XXXXX: %d\n", i); > 0.00 │10d: mov stderr@@GLIBC_2.2.5,%rdi > 2.18 │ mov $0x5e90e5,%esi > │ xor %eax,%eax > │ → callq fprintf@plt > │ ↑ jmpq 95 > │ nop > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Most of the time is spent in the loop over the buffers. So I guess avoiding binding case-fold-search in parse-time-string should make the problem go away? From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 20:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: larsi@gnus.org, pmlists@free.fr, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.14563456404138 (code B ref 18522); Wed, 24 Feb 2016 20:28:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2016 20:27:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44262 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYg1n-00014f-5v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:27:20 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47665) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYg1h-00014D-UA for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:27:17 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYg1a-00038r-8d for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:27:08 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50620) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYg1a-00038n-5f; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:27:06 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3972 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aYg1Z-0002ZI-BJ; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:27:05 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 22:27:03 +0200 Message-Id: <831t81hn1k.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <56CDFB41.50408@gmx.at> (message from martin rudalics on Wed, 24 Feb 2016 19:49:37 +0100) References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wpqh9gm3.fsf@gnus.org> <87io1nnx88.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5l8en7.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpq1rt5o.fsf@gnu.org> <8737so5neo.fsf@gnus.org> <831t87re7a.fsf@gnu.org> <87bn7b3hnz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <56CD82C0.9080302@gmx.at> <83twkygg32.fsf@gnu.org> <56CDF37B.6050002@gmx.at> <56CDFB41.50408@gmx.at> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 19:49:37 +0100 > From: martin rudalics > CC: larsi@gnus.org, pmlists@free.fr, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org > > something similar seems to happen on Peter's machine. 162 buffers with > only 27 live ones cannot be explained by large GC intervals. Perhaps showing the names of those extra buffers will give a clue. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 23:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145635802930318 (code B ref 18522); Wed, 24 Feb 2016 23:54:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2016 23:53:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44383 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYjFd-0007sw-Mt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 18:53:49 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:46978) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYjFc-0007so-Ff for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 18:53:48 -0500 Received: from cpe-60-225-211-161.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([60.225.211.161] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aYjF9-0003GO-TG; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 00:53:20 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83io1ege6r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4a9kh9e.fsf@roche-blanche.net> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 10:53:15 +1100 In-Reply-To: <87y4a9kh9e.fsf@roche-blanche.net> ("Peter \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?M\?\= \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?\=FCnster\=22's\?\= message of "Wed, 24 Feb 2016 21:03:41 +0100") Message-ID: <87vb5dvf6c.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1aYjF9-0003GO-TG X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1456962802.34099@lFMHHrUbsCZxiyJ634Q1BQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Just on a hunch -- what's the value of your `gnus-buffers' variable? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 08:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145638760131409 (code B ref 18522); Thu, 25 Feb 2016 08:07:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Feb 2016 08:06:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44741 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYqwb-0008AW-JK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 03:06:41 -0500 Received: from smtp01.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.123]:53637 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYqwa-0008AG-8C for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 03:06:40 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.14.65.45]) by mwinf5d24 with ME id NY6Q1s00T0yazV603Y6Qh6; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:06:33 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:06:33 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.14.65.45 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 331B8F44D; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:06:24 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83io1ege6r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4a9kh9e.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8337shhn2w.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:06:24 +0100 Message-ID: <87k2lti58f.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Wed, Feb 24 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > So I guess avoiding binding case-fold-search in parse-time-string > should make the problem go away? Yes, it does. -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 08:08:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: martin rudalics , larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145638764731497 (code B ref 18522); Thu, 25 Feb 2016 08:08:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Feb 2016 08:07:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44747 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYqxK-0008Bx-RJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 03:07:27 -0500 Received: from smtp01.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.123]:51957 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYqxJ-0008Bl-G6 for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 03:07:25 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.14.65.45]) by mwinf5d24 with ME id NY7K1s0040yazV603Y7Kw5; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:07:19 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:07:19 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.14.65.45 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1E240F44F; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:07:19 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <56CD82C0.9080302@gmx.at> <83twkygg32.fsf@gnu.org> <56CDF37B.6050002@gmx.at> <56CDFB41.50408@gmx.at> <831t81hn1k.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:07:19 +0100 Message-ID: <87d1rli56w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Wed, Feb 24 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Perhaps showing the names of those extra buffers will give a clue. Could you provide some code please, to show the names? TIA, -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 08:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145638773231641 (code B ref 18522); Thu, 25 Feb 2016 08:09:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Feb 2016 08:08:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44752 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYqyi-0008EH-59 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 03:08:52 -0500 Received: from smtp01.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.123]:21900 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYqyg-0008E2-Cs for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 03:08:50 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.14.65.45]) by mwinf5d24 with ME id NY8k1s0090yazV603Y8kLn; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:08:44 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:08:44 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.14.65.45 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 220E1F451; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:08:44 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83io1ege6r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4a9kh9e.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5dvf6c.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:08:44 +0100 Message-ID: <8760xdi54j.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Thu, Feb 25 2016, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Just on a hunch -- what's the value of your `gnus-buffers' variable? (# #> # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # #) -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 10:08:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= , Eli Zaretskii Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.14563948239884 (code B ref 18522); Thu, 25 Feb 2016 10:08:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Feb 2016 10:07:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44816 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYsp5-0002ZL-BU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 05:07:03 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:50700) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYsp3-0002Yp-5A for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 05:07:01 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([212.95.7.75]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lx83d-1ZtBLm0hgX-016jRA; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 11:06:43 +0100 Message-ID: <56CED228.70201@gmx.at> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 11:06:32 +0100 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83lh6fpv4z.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9h2xr9k.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <56C99AD0.2000309@gmx.at> <87wppywbaz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rquo4a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <56CD82C0.9080302@gmx.at> <83twkygg32.fsf@gnu.org> <56CDF37B.6050002@gmx.at> <56CDFB41.50408@gmx.at> <831t81hn1k.fsf@gnu.org> <87d1rli56w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> In-Reply-To: <87d1rli56w.fsf@roche-blanche.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090300010808040902040806" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:JPCbLb4Tt/QWYlV+3XDKUr+9Lj/TVHmoO24BPO48im2oYWtnSKo 1tZ/SKEzAvYURrTtEfxrdl+GB7SzBaEfj3SLscLvgNSGloC64OgUwjfP0HQm602XXzVFQ/y WUbtRWbHQJv14n9fjw6mQ2dBS7bXN006iAotaIMtORbvKol9aps/4DMQe2Ez/p9Sb1cLYhX cp+omhvSt4Q7Dq0o2uqYw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:mJkf+qULy9E=:hLuqWX6Rgz6VGcpY2yNwie uVtkKKS8j0cFzV9JYV78Jp11PLFvhaI5ed7T47MJTya2ZLAqQHHj6RjPb1e1eJIkyw59YhfeN Ut+1AlEmFloulknrs4L0GBMx1wFEjpzAydqP4N0MFIBz3vA1CH3ACpbQgea8MP3vAyUEQkLLo gkarDy+QKysDygypgS9HCTxFYRCYOcJ/qxJ3AISiXCq34Fkf4EakKTQHbtvN9cvb6wdQQXYMJ K+M2FP+Umi+9E0CjfH7M16RYShi1QBxu5urWyuhjkM7V+GdiHMGos8zTbFBGiP+4sB8TJiHxj R1nuSlCFDT8kGduDiiM79eIDyMuyGgHywcEdFib6LJElkUxb7dd0bQMiw3RtjQKOCFQvkxuwY ZWiqcokqpvbpGAS7a6gfuhDTVNl8bbwy/pYagZ4h7h0jd5kL4jISCcwdGy+INasDWz4T96Fsk 0qviUsO5GpwNdQUvTCnkL+GoJSScvRF8FxTIN43QiVhMw2yJT9FAP0IW/ZuHSp71peNXjBh3N tDXvP2Sc8ZETToKiYXNL7+2BBc8JdMx/iqDU8XCbd6AaTzDNsIEjk3cnJaOjqg5Pc9+f0xAqk mzhHTD0QXb8JI17N42CW/uqLxdDwysgEPd7CTm7zkGj43gDqGZbEE1JVsHa3RBOmn7XA7/+9c L7MTAQOMmgc92e7VKJmERO9tFHEYLK7xwoLADm289X0aFXYSPbN5r4UD93vgGsyfOeQ18mG0c pfJVFVXvx5MBJVOSn4w7GgwbzH+fN/Lww3RlrYmGC5fV1spATeaM4q7XjsJ4Wk1FFG4mGSgNh X//Lve8 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090300010808040902040806 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Could you provide some code please, to show the names? 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mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 16:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145641599417765 (code B ref 18522); Thu, 25 Feb 2016 16:00:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Feb 2016 15:59:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46297 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYyKY-0004cT-FA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 10:59:54 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60405) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYyKW-0004cH-Kk for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 10:59:52 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYyKL-0005id-P9 for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; 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charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) > From: Peter Münster > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 18522@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 09:08:44 +0100 > > > Just on a hunch -- what's the value of your `gnus-buffers' variable? > > (# #> # *sent mail to Eli Zaretskii*> # # *Original Article nndraft:drafts*> # # buffer> # # # > # # # # # buffer> # # # # > # # # # # buffer> # # # # > # # # # > # # # > # #) OK, so is the following summary of this long discussion accurate? . Peter noticed that Gnus is very slow entering a group . Gnus is slow because parse-time-string takes a lot of time . parse-time-string is slow because it let-binds case-fold-search . binding case-fold-search is slow because Peter has a lot of buffers, which set-default loops over to change the value of case-fold-search in each one of them . most of the buffers over which set-default loops were actually killed, but they are still in all_buffers list which set-default traverses, although they were supposed to be removed by GC . killed buffers are not removed from all_buffers by GC because they are referenced by gnus-buffers . gnus-buffers references killed buffers because Peter kills buffers behind Gnus back, instead of letting them be killed through gnus-kill-buffer, which would have removed them from gnus-buffers If the above is an accurate account of what we've discovered, then we have several factors here that conspire to make Peter's Gnus slow: . parse-time-string should try to avoid binding case-fold-search globally, or at all . set-default should skip killed buffers . Peter should stop killing Gnus buffers behind Gnus back For the first issue, I propose to modify parse-time-string to use upcase and downcase instead of string-match. E.g., this: (/= (downcase char) char) can be used to detect upper-case characters, and similarly with lower-case. For the second issue, I propose to modify set-default to use FOR_EACH_LIVE_BUFFER instead of FOR_EACH_BUFFER. Does anyone see a problem with that? For the third issue, Peter should make his buffer-killing code look in gnus-buffers, and kill any buffers referenced by it through gnus-kill-buffer. If this involves some standard Emacs features (like 'midnight', perhaps), then those features should also be adapted to gnus-buffers. Comments? From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 18:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145642387530200 (code B ref 18522); Thu, 25 Feb 2016 18:12:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Feb 2016 18:11:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46348 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZ0Nf-0007r2-Bh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 13:11:15 -0500 Received: from smtp05.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.127]:24877 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZ0Nd-0007qp-N9 for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 13:11:14 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.14.65.45]) by mwinf5d28 with ME id NiAy1s00X0yazV603iAykZ; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 19:11:06 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 19:11:06 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.14.65.45 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 82555F4CA; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 19:10:58 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83io1ege6r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4a9kh9e.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5dvf6c.fsf@gnus.org> <8760xdi54j.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5cg4r6.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 19:10:58 +0100 Message-ID: <87wppspsnh.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Thu, Feb 25 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > . gnus-buffers references killed buffers because Peter kills buffers > behind Gnus back, instead of letting them be killed through > gnus-kill-buffer, which would have removed them from gnus-buffers This point is perhaps not 100% accurate. After 6h running, here some more details about the situation: - length of all_buffers: 74 - length of buffer-list: 45 - length of killed-buffer-names: 28 - length of gnus-buffers: 17 Content of killed-buffer-names: Name Details ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- " *mm*" ??? " *mm*-292588" ??? " *mm*-331546" ??? " *mm*-391449" ??? " *mm*-531130" ??? " *mm*-59524" ??? " *mm*-705438" ??? " *mm*-971636" ??? " *nnmail message-id cache*" ??? " *nnml overview inbox*" ??? " *server news.gmane.org nntp *nntpd**" ??? " *server news.gmane.org nntp *nntpd**" ??? " *server news.povray.org nntp *nntpd**" ??? " *server news.povray.org nntp *nntpd**" ??? "*Backtrace*" killed by me with kill-buffer "*Completions*" killed by me with kill-buffer "*Completions*" killed by me with kill-buffer "*Help*" killed by me with kill-buffer "*Summary nndraft:drafts*" killed by gnus-summary-exit "*Summary nntp+news.gmane.org:gmane.comp. embedded.openwrt.user*" killed by gnus-summary-exit "*sent mail to SAV*" killed by me with kill-buffer "*sent mail to XXX*" killed by me with kill-buffer "*sent mail to YYY*" killed by me with kill-buffer "*unsent wide reply to Eli Zaretskii*" killed by me with kill-buffer "*unsent wide reply to SAV*" killed by me with kill-buffer "*unsent wide reply to ZZZ*" killed by me with kill-buffer "gnus-util.el" killed by me with kill-buffer "jl-encrypt.el" killed by me with kill-buffer There are 6 "#" in gnus-buffers. That means, that I should have killed the 6 buffers "*sent ..." and "*unsent ..." with gnus-kill-buffer. I'll do that in the future. But what about the other buffers? -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 18:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.14564247465404 (code B ref 18522); Thu, 25 Feb 2016 18:26:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Feb 2016 18:25:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46368 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZ0be-0001P3-Hr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 13:25:45 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52120) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZ0bZ-0001Oh-JR for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 13:25:41 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aZ0bQ-0005tq-Nn for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 13:25:32 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:43697) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aZ0bQ-0005tX-JO; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 13:25:28 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1179 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aZ0bP-0007Pc-OZ; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 13:25:28 -0500 Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 20:25:27 +0200 Message-Id: <8337sgfy08.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87wppspsnh.fsf@roche-blanche.net> (message from Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= on Thu, 25 Feb 2016 19:10:58 +0100) References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83io1ege6r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4a9kh9e.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5dvf6c.fsf@gnus.org> <8760xdi54j.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5cg4r6.fsf@gnu.org> <87wppspsnh.fsf@roche-blanche.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) > From: Peter Münster > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 19:10:58 +0100 > > On Thu, Feb 25 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > . gnus-buffers references killed buffers because Peter kills buffers > > behind Gnus back, instead of letting them be killed through > > gnus-kill-buffer, which would have removed them from gnus-buffers > > This point is perhaps not 100% accurate. After 6h running, here some > more details about the situation: > > - length of all_buffers: 74 > - length of buffer-list: 45 > - length of killed-buffer-names: 28 > - length of gnus-buffers: 17 > > Content of killed-buffer-names: > > Name Details > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > " *mm*" ??? > " *mm*-292588" ??? > " *mm*-331546" ??? > " *mm*-391449" ??? > " *mm*-531130" ??? > " *mm*-59524" ??? > " *mm*-705438" ??? > " *mm*-971636" ??? > " *nnmail message-id cache*" ??? > " *nnml overview inbox*" ??? > " *server news.gmane.org nntp *nntpd**" ??? > " *server news.gmane.org nntp *nntpd**" ??? > " *server news.povray.org nntp *nntpd**" ??? > " *server news.povray.org nntp *nntpd**" ??? > "*Backtrace*" killed by me with kill-buffer > "*Completions*" killed by me with kill-buffer > "*Completions*" killed by me with kill-buffer > "*Help*" killed by me with kill-buffer > "*Summary nndraft:drafts*" killed by gnus-summary-exit > "*Summary nntp+news.gmane.org:gmane.comp. > embedded.openwrt.user*" killed by gnus-summary-exit > "*sent mail to SAV*" killed by me with kill-buffer > "*sent mail to XXX*" killed by me with kill-buffer > "*sent mail to YYY*" killed by me with kill-buffer > "*unsent wide reply to Eli Zaretskii*" killed by me with kill-buffer > "*unsent wide reply to SAV*" killed by me with kill-buffer > "*unsent wide reply to ZZZ*" killed by me with kill-buffer > "gnus-util.el" killed by me with kill-buffer > "jl-encrypt.el" killed by me with kill-buffer > > There are 6 "#" in gnus-buffers. That means, that I > should have killed the 6 buffers "*sent ..." and "*unsent ..." with > gnus-kill-buffer. I'll do that in the future. But what about the other buffers? The *mm*-NNN buffers sound like something related to Gnus mail, so I defer to you and Lars for describing their life cycle. Likewise with *nnmail...*" and *server news....* buffers. (It's quite possible that these were also killed by you at some inopportune moment, btw, and that's why they are still around. Can you describe in more detail how you kill buffers? Or maybe try running for a few days without killing buffers, except manually when you are done with visiting some file, and see what winds up in the list of killed buffers?) *Completions*, *Help*, and *Backtrace* -- simply don't kill them, it's useless. They will pop up again soon enough. In any case, the other 2 measures should fix the original problem. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 03:15:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= , 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145645645727999 (code B ref 18522); Fri, 26 Feb 2016 03:15:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Feb 2016 03:14:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46553 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZ8rB-0007HW-1I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 22:14:17 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:58869) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZ8r9-0007HO-H6 for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 22:14:15 -0500 Received: from [175.103.25.178] (helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aZ8qj-0001PG-G9; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 04:13:50 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83io1ege6r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4a9kh9e.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5dvf6c.fsf@gnus.org> <8760xdi54j.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5cg4r6.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 13:43:44 +1030 In-Reply-To: <83vb5cg4r6.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:59:41 +0200") Message-ID: <87egc0noyf.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MailScanner-ID: 1aZ8qj-0001PG-G9 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1457061231.86257@nzy6Q+CqRARZHJJVWQEOVg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > . most of the buffers over which set-default loops were actually > killed, but they are still in all_buffers list which set-default > traverses, although they were supposed to be removed by GC > . killed buffers are not removed from all_buffers by GC because > they are referenced by gnus-buffers > . gnus-buffers references killed buffers because Peter kills buffers > behind Gnus back, instead of letting them be killed through > gnus-kill-buffer, which would have removed them from gnus-buffers It's probably not just Peter, but... code somewhere. My gnus-buffers is currently: (# # # # # # # # # # #> # # #>= # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # #= # # # # # # #) I'll fix the gnus-{add,kill}-buffer functions so that they remove all the killed buffers. That should help keep that list down to a reasonable length, and let all the killed buffers be GC'd. > If the above is an accurate account of what we've discovered, then we > have several factors here that conspire to make Peter's Gnus slow: > > . parse-time-string should try to avoid binding case-fold-search > globally, or at all It's kinda weird. This starts with: (defun parse-time-string (string) [...] (temp (parse-time-tokenize (downcase string)))) which calls (defsubst parse-time-string-chars (char) (save-match-data (let (case-fold-search str) (cond ((eq char ?+) 1) ((eq char ?-) -1) ((eq char ?:) ?d) ((string-match "[[:upper:]]" (setq str (string char))) ?A) ((string-match "[[:lower:]]" str) ?a) ((string-match "[[:digit:]]" str) ?0))))) !? Since we've already downcased the entire string, both the `case-fold-search' and the match to [[:upper:]] seem rather nonsensical? So that should be fixed, but: > . set-default should skip killed buffers Yes. I think that would be a win in general. > For the second issue, I propose to modify set-default to use > FOR_EACH_LIVE_BUFFER instead of FOR_EACH_BUFFER. Does anyone see a > problem with that? Hm... If a buffer is killed, do the local variables still have an effect? I'm thinking of code like: (with-temp-buffer (setq-local foo 'bar) (kill-buffer (current-buffer)) (let ((buf (current-buffer))) (with-temp-buffer (let ((foo 'zot)) (set-buffer buf) foo)))) Well, that answered itself. :-) It returns zot. (If we don't kill it returns bar.) So I don't see any reason not to use FOR_EACH_LIVE_BUFFER here. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 03:20:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145645675328533 (code B ref 18522); Fri, 26 Feb 2016 03:20:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Feb 2016 03:19:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46558 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZ8vw-0007Q9-KI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 22:19:12 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:52802) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZ8vu-0007Po-M9 for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 22:19:10 -0500 Received: from [175.103.25.178] (helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aZ8vY-0001Wg-K0; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 04:18:49 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83io1ege6r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4a9kh9e.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5dvf6c.fsf@gnus.org> <8760xdi54j.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5cg4r6.fsf@gnu.org> <87wppspsnh.fsf@roche-blanche.net> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 13:48:43 +1030 In-Reply-To: <87wppspsnh.fsf@roche-blanche.net> ("Peter \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?M\?\= \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?\=FCnster\=22's\?\= message of "Thu, 25 Feb 2016 19:10:58 +0100") Message-ID: <87a8monoq4.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MailScanner-ID: 1aZ8vY-0001Wg-K0 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1457061529.42558@IDTeX1AUIsBD0/n7tXJnXw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Peter M=FCnster writes: > Name Details > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- > " *mm*" ??? > " *mm*-292588" ??? > " *mm*-331546" ??? > " *mm*-391449" ??? > " *mm*-531130" ??? > " *mm*-59524" ??? > " *mm*-705438" ??? > " *mm*-971636" ??? Hm... could these be from `mml-buffer-list'? Which is a list I've just discovered. No, that's something else... I wonder where these are coming from. That is, Gnus creates " *mm*" buffers a lot, but I can't see where Gnus is keeping them in a list... --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 08:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: pmlists@free.fr, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.14564765206834 (code B ref 18522); Fri, 26 Feb 2016 08:49:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Feb 2016 08:48:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46800 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZE4j-0001m6-7d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 03:48:40 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35544) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZE4e-0001lq-RN for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 03:48:36 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aZE4U-0003Aj-Gm for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 03:48:27 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59429) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aZE4U-0003Af-AR; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 03:48:22 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1986 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aZE4T-0006MP-EX; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 03:48:21 -0500 Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 10:48:16 +0200 Message-Id: <83r3fzeu27.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87egc0noyf.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 26 Feb 2016 13:43:44 +1030) References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83io1ege6r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4a9kh9e.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5dvf6c.fsf@gnus.org> <8760xdi54j.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5cg4r6.fsf@gnu.org> <87egc0noyf.fsf@gnus.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: Peter Münster , > 18522@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 13:43:44 +1030 > > > . parse-time-string should try to avoid binding case-fold-search > > globally, or at all > > It's kinda weird. This starts with: > > (defun parse-time-string (string) > > [...] > > (temp (parse-time-tokenize (downcase string)))) > > which calls > > (defsubst parse-time-string-chars (char) > (save-match-data > (let (case-fold-search str) > (cond ((eq char ?+) 1) > ((eq char ?-) -1) > ((eq char ?:) ?d) > ((string-match "[[:upper:]]" (setq str (string char))) ?A) > ((string-match "[[:lower:]]" str) ?a) > ((string-match "[[:digit:]]" str) ?0))))) > > !? > > Since we've already downcased the entire string, both the > `case-fold-search' and the match to [[:upper:]] seem rather > nonsensical? Yes, weird. And even if someone thought of using parse-time-string-chars in other places that don't necessarily downcase the string, I don't understand why we should test a character by making it a string, then matching against [:upper:]. Maybe I'm missing something. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 09:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: pmlists@free.fr, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145647890910517 (code B ref 18522); Fri, 26 Feb 2016 09:29:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Feb 2016 09:28:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46877 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZEhF-0002jV-Ob for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 04:28:29 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56662) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZEhB-0002jG-7F for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 04:28:24 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aZEh1-00017f-3I for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 04:28:16 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60491) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aZEh0-00017b-Vz; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 04:28:11 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2017 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aZEh0-0002pk-7x; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 04:28:10 -0500 Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 11:28:05 +0200 Message-Id: <83fuwfes7u.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87egc0noyf.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 26 Feb 2016 13:43:44 +1030) References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <878u2eun9o.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <834md2niqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83io1ege6r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4a9kh9e.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5dvf6c.fsf@gnus.org> <8760xdi54j.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5cg4r6.fsf@gnu.org> <87egc0noyf.fsf@gnus.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: Peter Münster , > 18522@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 13:43:44 +1030 > > Since we've already downcased the entire string, both the > `case-fold-search' and the match to [[:upper:]] seem rather > nonsensical? So that should be fixed, but: > > > . set-default should skip killed buffers > > Yes. I think that would be a win in general. > > > For the second issue, I propose to modify set-default to use > > FOR_EACH_LIVE_BUFFER instead of FOR_EACH_BUFFER. Does anyone see a > > problem with that? > > Hm... If a buffer is killed, do the local variables still have an > effect? I'm thinking of code like: > > (with-temp-buffer > (setq-local foo 'bar) > (kill-buffer (current-buffer)) > (let ((buf (current-buffer))) > (with-temp-buffer > (let ((foo 'zot)) > (set-buffer buf) > foo)))) > > Well, that answered itself. :-) It returns zot. (If we don't kill it > returns bar.) So I don't see any reason not to use FOR_EACH_LIVE_BUFFER > here. Btw, why did you fix all those on master? I think this should be fixed on emacs-25 instead. Thanks. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 11:06:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145648472719639 (code B ref 18522); Fri, 26 Feb 2016 11:06:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Feb 2016 11:05:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46949 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZGD8-00056h-NR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 06:05:26 -0500 Received: from smtp12.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.134]:47003 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZGD7-00056P-E5 for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 06:05:25 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.14.65.45]) by mwinf5d23 with ME id Nz5C1s00b0yazV603z5CVc; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 12:05:18 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 12:05:18 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.14.65.45 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8C7F9F53D; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 12:05:12 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83io1ege6r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4a9kh9e.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5dvf6c.fsf@gnus.org> <8760xdi54j.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5cg4r6.fsf@gnu.org> <87wppspsnh.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8337sgfy08.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 12:05:12 +0100 Message-ID: <87wpprn34n.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Thu, Feb 25 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Can you describe in more detail how you kill buffers? In summary buffers, I press "q" (gnus-summary-exit). In other buffers, I press M-k (bound to kill-this-buffer). > Or maybe try running for a few days without killing buffers, except > manually when you are done with visiting some file, and see what winds > up in the list of killed buffers?) Ok. > *Completions*, *Help*, and *Backtrace* -- simply don't kill them, it's > useless. They will pop up again soon enough. I know, but the habit to kill useless buffers is in my fingers already for a long time... > In any case, the other 2 measures should fix the original problem. If the case really doesn't matter in a time-string, then of course just down-case the string and then parse it. But I think, that we have found another issue (just a very tiny one): the number of killed buffers, that are not GCed, keeps growing. -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 11:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145648525220396 (code B ref 18522); Fri, 26 Feb 2016 11:15:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Feb 2016 11:14:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46954 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZGLc-0005Iu-Ic for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 06:14:12 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40230) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZGLX-0005If-IC for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 06:14:11 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aZGLN-0001M2-Nw for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 06:14:02 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38174) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aZGLN-0001Ly-LD; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 06:13:57 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2122 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aZGLM-0006Cu-Sx; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 06:13:57 -0500 Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 13:13:49 +0200 Message-Id: <8360xbenbm.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87wpprn34n.fsf@roche-blanche.net> (message from Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= on Fri, 26 Feb 2016 12:05:12 +0100) References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83io1ege6r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4a9kh9e.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5dvf6c.fsf@gnus.org> <8760xdi54j.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5cg4r6.fsf@gnu.org> <87wppspsnh.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8337sgfy08.fsf@gnu.org> <87wpprn34n.fsf@roche-blanche.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) > From: Peter Münster > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 12:05:12 +0100 > > If the case really doesn't matter in a time-string, then of course just > down-case the string and then parse it. I proposed a change there that will support mixed case, but won't need to bind case-fold-search. We could use that instead. > But I think, that we have found another issue (just a very tiny one): > the number of killed buffers, that are not GCed, keeps growing. Indeed. I believe Lars is working on this. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 11:36:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145648655422758 (code B ref 18522); Fri, 26 Feb 2016 11:36:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Feb 2016 11:35:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46972 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZGgb-0005uv-Nj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 06:35:53 -0500 Received: from smtp12.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.134]:17483 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZGga-0005th-Fw for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 06:35:52 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.14.65.45]) by mwinf5d23 with ME id Nzbl1s00d0yazV603zblUE; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 12:35:46 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 12:35:46 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.14.65.45 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6DEA3F544; Fri, 26 Feb 2016 12:35:45 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83io1ege6r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4a9kh9e.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5dvf6c.fsf@gnus.org> <8760xdi54j.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5cg4r6.fsf@gnu.org> <87wppspsnh.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8337sgfy08.fsf@gnu.org> <87wpprn34n.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xbenbm.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 12:35:45 +0100 Message-ID: <87si0fln5a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Fri, Feb 26 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> But I think, that we have found another issue (just a very tiny one): >> the number of killed buffers, that are not GCed, keeps growing. > > Indeed. I believe Lars is working on this. It's not only about Gnus buffers. Here some buffer names from my current killed-buffer-names list: "*Completions*" "*Backtrace*" "gnus-util.el" "jl-encrypt.el" "*Completions*" "*Help*" "*Choices*" "misc" "quittance-greenever.tex" "*~/ctx/misc/quittance-greenever output*" "*Choices*" "custom.el" -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 04:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: pmlists@free.fr, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.14566322036703 (code B ref 18522); Sun, 28 Feb 2016 04:04:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Feb 2016 04:03:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49259 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZsZn-0001k3-IK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Feb 2016 23:03:23 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:34644) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZsZl-0001jv-9T for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Feb 2016 23:03:21 -0500 Received: from cpe-60-225-211-161.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([60.225.211.161] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aZsZK-0007ie-Pu; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 05:02:56 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83io1ege6r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4a9kh9e.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5dvf6c.fsf@gnus.org> <8760xdi54j.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5cg4r6.fsf@gnu.org> <87egc0noyf.fsf@gnus.org> <83r3fzeu27.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 14:32:46 +1030 In-Reply-To: <83r3fzeu27.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 26 Feb 2016 10:48:16 +0200") Message-ID: <87lh65xz15.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1aZsZK-0007ie-Pu X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1457236977.50603@sKSplz6hg9F8pOV853yJig X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> (defsubst parse-time-string-chars (char) >> (save-match-data >> (let (case-fold-search str) >> (cond ((eq char ?+) 1) >> ((eq char ?-) -1) >> ((eq char ?:) ?d) >> ((string-match "[[:upper:]]" (setq str (string char))) ?A) >> ((string-match "[[:lower:]]" str) ?a) >> ((string-match "[[:digit:]]" str) ?0))))) [...] > Yes, weird. And even if someone thought of using > parse-time-string-chars in other places that don't necessarily > downcase the string, I don't understand why we should test a character > by making it a string, then matching against [:upper:]. Maybe I'm > missing something. No, that's also rather puzzling. Looking at the rest of the code, we don't really handle anything other than [a-z] and [0-9] here, so using a regexp instead of a (<= ?0 char ?9) (etc.) also seems odd. And losing those `string-match' calls would also mean we could get rid of the `save-match-data' call. I think I'll put together a test harness for `parse-time' and then clean up this function further. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 04:05:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: pmlists@free.fr, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.14566322906847 (code B ref 18522); Sun, 28 Feb 2016 04:05:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Feb 2016 04:04:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49264 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZsbB-0001mN-S1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Feb 2016 23:04:50 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:34663) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZsb9-0001m9-Tc for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Feb 2016 23:04:48 -0500 Received: from cpe-60-225-211-161.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([60.225.211.161] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aZsak-0007lP-L5; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 05:04:24 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87k2lyszy2.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83io1ege6r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4a9kh9e.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5dvf6c.fsf@gnus.org> <8760xdi54j.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5cg4r6.fsf@gnu.org> <87egc0noyf.fsf@gnus.org> <83fuwfes7u.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 14:34:18 +1030 In-Reply-To: <83fuwfes7u.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 26 Feb 2016 11:28:05 +0200") Message-ID: <87h9gtxyyl.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1aZsak-0007lP-L5 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1457237065.38384@LARxCB6kQhCoRsru7ZMqFg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Btw, why did you fix all those on master? I think this should be > fixed on emacs-25 instead. I didn't consider this a bug, really, but an optimisation. Besides, no test harness. But after more testing, I think we could backport the resulting version of parse-time.el. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 04:11:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.14566326607408 (code B ref 18522); Sun, 28 Feb 2016 04:11:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Feb 2016 04:11:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49269 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZshA-0001vQ-Hy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Feb 2016 23:11:00 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:42978) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZsh9-0001vI-HW for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Feb 2016 23:10:59 -0500 Received: from cpe-60-225-211-161.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([60.225.211.161] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aZsgh-0007yQ-OX; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 05:10:32 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83io1ege6r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4a9kh9e.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5dvf6c.fsf@gnus.org> <8760xdi54j.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5cg4r6.fsf@gnu.org> <87wppspsnh.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8337sgfy08.fsf@gnu.org> <87wpprn34n.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xbenbm.fsf@gnu.org> <87si0fln5a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 14:40:27 +1030 In-Reply-To: <87si0fln5a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> ("Peter \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?M\?\= \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?\=FCnster\=22's\?\= message of "Fri, 26 Feb 2016 12:35:45 +0100") Message-ID: <87d1rhxyoc.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MailScanner-ID: 1aZsgh-0007yQ-OX X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1457237432.89379@Ahm2sTehPsmdszhVjAKjIQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Peter M=FCnster writes: > On Fri, Feb 26 2016, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >>> But I think, that we have found another issue (just a very tiny one): >>> the number of killed buffers, that are not GCed, keeps growing. >> >> Indeed. I believe Lars is working on this. > > It's not only about Gnus buffers. Here some buffer names from my current > killed-buffer-names list: > "*Completions*" "*Backtrace*" "gnus-util.el" "jl-encrypt.el" > "*Completions*" "*Help*" "*Choices*" "misc" "quittance-greenever.tex" > "*~/ctx/misc/quittance-greenever output*" "*Choices*" "custom.el" There may be other lists that keep track of those buffers... Try evaling the following and post the list appearing in *Messages*: (mapatoms (lambda (symbol) (when (boundp symbol) (let ((value (symbol-value symbol))) (while (consp value) (let ((elem (car value))) (when (bufferp elem) (message "%s has a buffer %s" symbol (buffer-name elem)))) (setq value (cdr value)))))) obarray) --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 05:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145663636126120 (code B ref 18522); Sun, 28 Feb 2016 05:13:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Feb 2016 05:12:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49312 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZteq-0006nE-US for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 00:12:41 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:60013) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZtep-0006n6-Fw for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 00:12:39 -0500 Received: from cpe-60-225-211-161.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([60.225.211.161] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aZteN-0001ys-Lk; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 06:12:12 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83io1ege6r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4a9kh9e.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5dvf6c.fsf@gnus.org> <8760xdi54j.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5cg4r6.fsf@gnu.org> <87wppspsnh.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8337sgfy08.fsf@gnu.org> <87wpprn34n.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xbenbm.fsf@gnu.org> <87si0fln5a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 15:42:05 +1030 In-Reply-To: <87si0fln5a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> ("Peter \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?M\?\= \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?\=FCnster\=22's\?\= message of "Fri, 26 Feb 2016 12:35:45 +0100") Message-ID: <878u25wh96.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1aZteN-0001ys-Lk X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1457241134.25374@jhIQIO0uXMBl5BIEpJ2JaQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) I've now rewritten that function to not use all those regexp and stuff, and I'm pleased to say that (benchmark-run 1 (dotimes (i 100000) (parse-time-string "Fri, 13 Feb 2015 14:40:02 +0000"))) went from approx 9 seconds on my computer to 3.5 seconds (in fresh -Q Emacsen). :-) (I haven't measured whether that's because it's creating less garbage or just because it's ... faster.) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 08:08:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.14566468485360 (code B ref 18522); Sun, 28 Feb 2016 08:08:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Feb 2016 08:07:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49491 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZwO0-0001OO-7y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 03:07:28 -0500 Received: from smtp06.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.128]:39736 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aZwNy-0001O9-8O for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 03:07:26 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.14.65.45]) by mwinf5d63 with ME id Pk791s00d0yazV603k7Beq; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 09:07:19 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 09:07:19 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.14.65.45 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C5EAAF62A; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 09:07:08 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83io1ege6r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4a9kh9e.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5dvf6c.fsf@gnus.org> <8760xdi54j.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5cg4r6.fsf@gnu.org> <87wppspsnh.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8337sgfy08.fsf@gnu.org> <87wpprn34n.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xbenbm.fsf@gnu.org> <87si0fln5a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rhxyoc.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 09:07:08 +0100 Message-ID: <8737sduukz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Sun, Feb 28 2016, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Try evaling the following and post the list appearing in *Messages*: > > (mapatoms > (lambda (symbol) > (when (boundp symbol) > (let ((value (symbol-value symbol))) > (while (consp value) > (let ((elem (car value))) > (when (bufferp elem) > (message "%s has a buffer %s" > symbol (buffer-name elem)))) > (setq value (cdr value)))))) > obarray) multi-web-global-mode-buffers has a buffer *Minibuf-1* rfn-eshadow-frobbed-minibufs has a buffer *Minibuf-1* gnus-buffers has a buffer *Article nndraft:drafts* gnus-buffers has a buffer *Original Article nndraft:drafts* gnus-buffers has a buffer *Summary nndraft:drafts* gnus-buffers has a buffer nil gnus-buffers has a buffer *unsent wide reply to Lars Ingebrigtsen* gnus-buffers has a buffer *gnus article copy* gnus-buffers has a buffer *nnmail message-id cache* gnus-buffers has a buffer *Gnus Backlog* gnus-buffers has a buffer *gnus work* gnus-buffers has a buffer *Gnus agent overview* gnus-buffers has a buffer *Group* And then I have to stop it with C-g because it hangs... I had to restart emacs this morning, there are no more *Help* and *Completions* buffers in the killed list. But there is "gnus-util.el". -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 15:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145667453723916 (code B ref 18522); Sun, 28 Feb 2016 15:49:01 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Feb 2016 15:48:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50890 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aa3aa-0006Dg-Nn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 10:48:56 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50312) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aa3aY-0006DT-SX for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 10:48:55 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aa3aP-0000CH-Ss for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 10:48:49 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37626) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aa3aP-0000CC-Pb; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 10:48:45 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3220 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aa3aO-0004ub-Vn; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 10:48:45 -0500 Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 17:48:29 +0200 Message-Id: <83y4a4al9u.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <8737sduukz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> (message from Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= on Sun, 28 Feb 2016 09:07:08 +0100) References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83io1ege6r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4a9kh9e.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5dvf6c.fsf@gnus.org> <8760xdi54j.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5cg4r6.fsf@gnu.org> <87wppspsnh.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8337sgfy08.fsf@gnu.org> <87wpprn34n.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xbenbm.fsf@gnu.org> <87si0fln5a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rhxyoc.fsf@gnus.org> <8737sduukz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Peter Münster > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 18522@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 09:07:08 +0100 > > On Sun, Feb 28 2016, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > > > Try evaling the following and post the list appearing in *Messages*: > > > > (mapatoms > > (lambda (symbol) > > (when (boundp symbol) > > (let ((value (symbol-value symbol))) > > (while (consp value) > > (let ((elem (car value))) > > (when (bufferp elem) > > (message "%s has a buffer %s" > > symbol (buffer-name elem)))) > > (setq value (cdr value)))))) > > obarray) > > multi-web-global-mode-buffers has a buffer *Minibuf-1* > rfn-eshadow-frobbed-minibufs has a buffer *Minibuf-1* > gnus-buffers has a buffer *Article nndraft:drafts* > gnus-buffers has a buffer *Original Article nndraft:drafts* > gnus-buffers has a buffer *Summary nndraft:drafts* > gnus-buffers has a buffer nil > gnus-buffers has a buffer *unsent wide reply to Lars Ingebrigtsen* > gnus-buffers has a buffer *gnus article copy* > gnus-buffers has a buffer *nnmail message-id cache* > gnus-buffers has a buffer *Gnus Backlog* > gnus-buffers has a buffer *gnus work* > gnus-buffers has a buffer *Gnus agent overview* > gnus-buffers has a buffer *Group* > > And then I have to stop it with C-g because it hangs... So there's a symbol-value there whose cdr equal's itself? That should be easy to protect against, no? Also, I'd suggest disabling GCC during the time this runs. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 02:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.145671254023888 (code B ref 18522); Mon, 29 Feb 2016 02:23:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Feb 2016 02:22:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51125 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aaDTY-0006DE-99 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:22:20 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:43178) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aaDTX-0006D3-L7 for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:22:19 -0500 Received: from cpe-60-225-211-161.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([60.225.211.161] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aaDT9-0007qj-GN; Mon, 29 Feb 2016 03:21:56 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83io1ege6r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4a9kh9e.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5dvf6c.fsf@gnus.org> <8760xdi54j.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5cg4r6.fsf@gnu.org> <87wppspsnh.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8337sgfy08.fsf@gnu.org> <87wpprn34n.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xbenbm.fsf@gnu.org> <87si0fln5a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rhxyoc.fsf@gnus.org> <8737sduukz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 13:21:50 +1100 In-Reply-To: <8737sduukz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> ("Peter \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?M\?\= \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?\=FCnster\=22's\?\= message of "Sun, 28 Feb 2016 09:07:08 +0100") Message-ID: <87io1845oh.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MailScanner-ID: 1aaDT9-0007qj-GN X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1457317317.7455@IH1UU8G6dItXVLoo2MeFmA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Peter M=FCnster writes: > And then I have to stop it with C-g because it hangs... Probably a circular list somewhere. Try the following: (let ((table (make-hash-table :test 'eq))) (mapatoms (lambda (symbol) (when (boundp symbol) (let ((value (symbol-value symbol))) (while (and (consp value) (not (gethash value table))) (let ((elem (car value))) (when (bufferp elem) (message "%s has a buffer %s" symbol (buffer-name elem)))) (setf (gethash value table) t) (setq value (cdr value)))))) obarray)) --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: killed buffers not GCed (was: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow) In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 10:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.14567420301643 (code B ref 18522); Mon, 29 Feb 2016 10:34:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Feb 2016 10:33:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51887 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aaL9B-0000QQ-Rb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Feb 2016 05:33:50 -0500 Received: from smtp05.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.127]:55125 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aaL99-0000QD-Ut for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 29 Feb 2016 05:33:48 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.2.82.147]) by mwinf5d61 with ME id QAZd1s0013AiiZe03AZdoC; Mon, 29 Feb 2016 11:33:41 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 11:33:41 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.2.82.147 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D7FD3F6F7; Mon, 29 Feb 2016 11:33:36 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83io1ege6r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4a9kh9e.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5dvf6c.fsf@gnus.org> <8760xdi54j.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5cg4r6.fsf@gnu.org> <87wppspsnh.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8337sgfy08.fsf@gnu.org> <87wpprn34n.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xbenbm.fsf@gnu.org> <87si0fln5a.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87d1rhxyoc.fsf@gnus.org> <8737sduukz.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87io1845oh.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 11:33:36 +0100 Message-ID: <87egbvyfen.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Mon, Feb 29 2016, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Probably a circular list somewhere. Try the following: Output: multi-web-global-mode-buffers has a buffer *Minibuf-1* message-buffer-list has a buffer *sent mail to XXX* rfn-eshadow-frobbed-minibufs has a buffer *Minibuf-1* gnus-buffers has a buffer *Article nndraft:drafts* gnus-buffers has a buffer *Original Article nndraft:drafts* gnus-buffers has a buffer *Summary nndraft:drafts* gnus-buffers has a buffer *unsent mail* gnus-buffers has a buffer *nnmail message-id cache* gnus-buffers has a buffer *sent mail to XXX* gnus-buffers has a buffer *MML2015 Result* gnus-buffers has a buffer nil gnus-buffers has a buffer *unsent wide reply to Lars Ingebrigtsen* gnus-buffers has a buffer *gnus article copy* gnus-buffers has a buffer *Gnus Backlog* gnus-buffers has a buffer *gnus work* gnus-buffers has a buffer *Gnus agent overview* gnus-buffers has a buffer *Group* undo-auto--undoably-changed-buffers has a buffer *Minibuf-1* global-font-lock-mode-buffers has a buffer *Minibuf-1* eval-buffer-list has a buffer hugo.el And here the names of killed buffers: "*Messages*" "*GNU Emacs*" "*Article inbox*" "*unsent mail*" "*Summary nndraft:drafts*" "*Summary nndraft:drafts*" "*Article nndraft:drafts*" "gnus-util.el" "quittance-samson.tex" -- Peter From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 20:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: pmlists@free.fr, 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.14853749849462 (code B ref 18522); Wed, 25 Jan 2017 20:10:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2017 20:09:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43497 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWTt2-0002SX-Cn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 15:09:44 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:44544) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWTt0-0002SP-EV for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 15:09:42 -0500 Received: from 2.150.50.220.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.50.220] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWTsy-00064v-2z; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:09:41 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <83bn79n66p.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83io1ege6r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4a9kh9e.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5dvf6c.fsf@gnus.org> <8760xdi54j.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5cg4r6.fsf@gnu.org> <87egc0noyf.fsf@gnus.org> <83fuwfes7u.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9gtxyyl.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:09:34 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87h9gtxyyl.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 28 Feb 2016 14:34:18 +1030") Message-ID: <87d1fakikh.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) I think the conclusion from this mega-thread was that this was fixed. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 25 15:09:55 2017 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2017 20:09:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43500 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWTtD-0002Sx-JZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 15:09:55 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:44552) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWTtB-0002Sm-HG for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 15:09:53 -0500 Received: from 2.150.50.220.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.50.220] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWTt9-0006q3-D9 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:09:53 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:09:45 +0100 Message-Id: <87bmuukik6.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #18522 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) tags 18522 fixed close 18522 From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:46 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18522: 24.4.50; mapcar is very slow In-Reply-To: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> Resent-From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 20:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18522 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 18522@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18522-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18522.148537680125653 (code B ref 18522); Wed, 25 Jan 2017 20:40:02 +0000 Received: (at 18522) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2017 20:40:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43606 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWUMK-0006fg-M0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 15:40:00 -0500 Received: from smtp09.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.131]:21088 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWUMI-0006fE-Ox for 18522@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 15:39:59 -0500 Received: from micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org ([2.2.83.12]) by mwinf5d18 with ME id ckfg1u0070FxF9u03kfgpF; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:39:51 +0100 X-ME-Helo: micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org X-ME-Auth: ZHJwbUB3YW5hZG9vLmZy X-ME-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:39:51 +0100 X-ME-IP: 2.2.83.12 Received: by micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E48811CDB1; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:39:39 +0100 (CET) From: Peter =?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=BCnster?= References: <8738bkdjqg.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <87vb5hry9y.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g4lnor.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3g4o4uw.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83h9h0jwfo.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvqru119.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <8360xfjsyr.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2bs7tl.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83r3g3iajr.fsf@gnu.org> <87twkypfqx.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5egg8y.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuwikmzc.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83io1ege6r.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4a9kh9e.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <87vb5dvf6c.fsf@gnus.org> <8760xdi54j.fsf@roche-blanche.net> <83vb5cg4r6.fsf@gnu.org> <87egc0noyf.fsf@gnus.org> <83fuwfes7u.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9gtxyyl.fsf@gnus.org> <87d1fakikh.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:39:39 +0100 Message-ID: <87mveec1ro.fsf@roche-blanche.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) On Wed, Jan 25 2017, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > I think the conclusion from this mega-thread was that this was fixed. Yes, thanks. -- Peter