From unknown Fri Aug 15 14:17:00 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#1851: 23.0.60; eval-buffer on a file containing help-xref-button doesn't update help mode text Reply-To: Brent Goodrick , 1851@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Brent Goodrick Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 20:50:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 1851 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.123162011213614 (code B ref -1); Sat, 10 Jan 2009 20:50:03 +0000 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 10 Jan 2009 20:41:52 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0AKfm4U013608 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:41:49 -0800 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:47406) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LLkdD-0004O2-W6 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:40:32 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LLkeP-0003yJ-8T for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:41:47 -0500 Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.246]:64298) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LLkeO-0003y8-N4 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:41:45 -0500 Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id k29so12016623rvb.6 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:41:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:date:to:subject :x-mailer; bh=EwDD/DuEy/m64SPdBlBzRkW4Z5b4ibFCTAmgYTuDQCs=; b=c82wURJyd3pnTRG9bDQ+bbCLmkOrSGjI+tYDebcXXymkUnrlcH241HK3wnwsY9oEGZ LM8F2IPr16yizHvoysxGHtIkItapupOGy2AUqg/AJwv3NqWpa5ytZbaUxA93/HzbpCC/ S4+CH4sI2/nizmTfqj+m+4fGYnrBlXVPI4gF4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :date:to:subject:x-mailer; b=xfvtENwtBGOABVq3z51xgkg//M+6OOloi2Z5rAhxH2N/ffOXz5kU2L/N942kGz/UWH rl5KriPsF9Wx6XUvrh/1KlbNkyffJp+V0Xbs+HQ6o+ajUqfREa/drSrk2mNghrWyt6xI +6MRduhkhVrGlMxGk1iLSGPCCKhS2ZqEcHZ+A= Received: by 10.140.170.12 with SMTP id s12mr2933355rve.166.1231620102680; Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:41:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from hungover.brentg.com.thisisbogus.com ([76.14.208.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f42sm4117002rvb.5.2009.01.10.12.41.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:41:42 -0800 (PST) From: Brent Goodrick MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18793.2050.407742.672702@hungover.brentg.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:41:38 -0800 To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org X-Mailer: VM viewmail-606 under 23.0.60.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Please write in English if possible, because the Emacs maintainers usually do not have translators to read other languages for them. Your bug report will be posted to the emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org mailing list. Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and the precise symptoms of the bug: Do the following to reproduce: 1. Invoke emacs with -q. 2. C-h f help-xref-button 3. Verify that you see a help mode buffer with this text: > help-xref-button is a Lisp function in `help-mode.el'. > > (help-xref-button match-number type &rest args) > > Make a hyperlink for cross-reference text previously matched. > match-number is the subexpression of interest in the last matched > regexp. type is the type of button to use. Any remaining arguments are > passed to the button's help-function when it is invoked. > See `help-make-xrefs'. > > [back] 4. Hit the TAB key in that buffer to position over help-mode.el 5. Hit the return key. At this point, you should be in the file .../share/emacs/23.0.60/lisp/help-mode.el.gz or some similarly named .el.gz file. 6. Copy the full defun body of the help-xref-button function and paste it into a new file, say, in /tmp/newfile.el 7. When in the buffer for newfile.el, type M-x eval-buffer 8. Redo step 2 and 3, but notice that the Lisp function in `help-mode.el' still remains just that. It should instead read `newfile.el'. Clicking on the link for `help-mode.el' brings me back to the original definition, not the one I have redefined in newfile.el If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger, please include the output from the following gdb commands: `bt full' and `xbacktrace'. If you would like to further debug the crash, please read the file /home/brentg/emacs_from_source/install/share/emacs/23.0.60/etc/DEBUG for instructions. In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.11) of 2009-01-10 on hungover Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10402000 configured using `configure '--with-x-toolkit' '--with-xft' '--prefix=/home/brentg/emacs_from_source/install'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Emacs-Lisp Minor modes in effect: diff-auto-refine-mode: t erc-list-mode: t erc-menu-mode: t erc-pcomplete-mode: t erc-track-mode: t erc-track-minor-mode: t erc-match-mode: t erc-button-mode: t erc-netsplit-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t iswitchb-mode: t erc-ring-mode: t erc-services-mode: t erc-networks-mode: t erc-fill-mode: t erc-stamp-mode: t erc-irccontrols-mode: t erc-noncommands-mode: t erc-move-to-prompt-mode: t erc-readonly-mode: t display-time-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t delete-selection-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: 1 transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-l C-p C-p C-p C-p C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-M-SPC M-; C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-l C-p C-p C-f C-e M-b C-M-SPC C-z C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-n C-n C-e M-( s e t q SPC m y - b a c k SPC C-v M-b C-M-SPC M-( C-a C-x C-s C-c d M-O M-P M-O C-g C-f M-P M-b M-b M-b M-b M-b C-k C-p C-p C-p C-e M-b M-b C-M-a C-M-SPC M-; C-x C-s C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-a C-n C-n C-p C-M-SPC M-; C-x C-s C-a C-n C-n C-n C-n C-M-SPC M-; C-x C-s M-P C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p M-x r e p o r r t - b u g e m b u Recent messages: Pushed a window configuration. Mark set line-move-visual: Beginning of buffer [4 times] Mark set Wrote /home/brentg/tmp/help-scrap.el Mark set Wrote /home/brentg/tmp/help-scrap.el Mark set Wrote /home/brentg/tmp/help-scrap.el History item: 1 From unknown Fri Aug 15 14:17:00 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#1851: 23.0.60; eval-buffer on a file containing help-xref-button doesn't update help mode text Reply-To: Glenn Morris , 1851@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 1851 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 1851-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1851.123162169820867 (code B ref 1851); Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:15:02 +0000 Received: (at 1851) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 10 Jan 2009 21:08:18 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0AL8FDN020861 for <1851@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:08:16 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LLl2o-0005MI-3h; Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:06:58 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Brent Goodrick Cc: 1851@debbugs.gnu.org References: <18793.2050.407742.672702@hungover.brentg.com> X-Spook: 2600 Magazine fundamentalist mindwar 22nd SAS Taiwan X-Ran: *AV)~?S~ZT];yy2%O"K(M"e+U4]tE^Zr)0~|_M!f8jINOEn5.K]ZHb_!DlK[H&:0`U$Z8u X-Hue: cyan X-Attribution: GM Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:06:57 -0500 In-Reply-To: <18793.2050.407742.672702@hungover.brentg.com> (Brent Goodrick's message of "Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:41:38 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Brent Goodrick wrote: > 8. Redo step 2 and 3, but notice that the Lisp function in > `help-mode.el' still remains just that. It should instead read > `newfile.el'. Clicking on the link for `help-mode.el' brings me back > to the original definition, not the one I have redefined in newfile.el I can't reproduce this with emacs -Q. (I assume you saved newfile.el, it wasn't explicit.) From unknown Fri Aug 15 14:17:00 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (Emacs bug Tracking System) To: Brent Goodrick Subject: bug#1851 closed by Brent Goodrick (Re: bug#1851: 23.0.60; eval-buffer on a file containing help-xref-button doesn't update help mode text) Message-ID: References: <18793.35892.694346.782762@hungover.brentg.com> <18793.2050.407742.672702@hungover.brentg.com> X-Emacs-PR-Message: they-closed 1851 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 1851@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:25:04 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1231723504-1273-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1231723504-1273-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" This is an automatic notification regarding your bug report which was filed against the emacs package: #1851: 23.0.60; eval-buffer on a file containing help-xref-button doesn't u= pdate help mode text It has been closed by Brent Goodrick . 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Redo step 2 and 3, but notice that the Lisp function in > > `help-mode.el' still remains just that. It should instead read > > `newfile.el'. Clicking on the link for `help-mode.el' brings me back > > to the original definition, not the one I have redefined in newfile.el > > I can't reproduce this with emacs -Q. (I assume you saved newfile.el, > it wasn't explicit.) Sigh. Now I can't either. And I believe I had saved the file. I had tried this a number of ways, too. Hmmm, I guess just close/ignore this for now. Thanks for trying to reproduce it. Brent ------------=_1231723504-1273-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 10 Jan 2009 20:41:52 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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Your bug report will be posted to the emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org mailing list. Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and the precise symptoms of the bug: Do the following to reproduce: 1. Invoke emacs with -q. 2. C-h f help-xref-button 3. Verify that you see a help mode buffer with this text: > help-xref-button is a Lisp function in `help-mode.el'. > > (help-xref-button match-number type &rest args) > > Make a hyperlink for cross-reference text previously matched. > match-number is the subexpression of interest in the last matched > regexp. type is the type of button to use. Any remaining arguments are > passed to the button's help-function when it is invoked. > See `help-make-xrefs'. > > [back] 4. Hit the TAB key in that buffer to position over help-mode.el 5. Hit the return key. At this point, you should be in the file .../share/emacs/23.0.60/lisp/help-mode.el.gz or some similarly named .el.gz file. 6. Copy the full defun body of the help-xref-button function and paste it into a new file, say, in /tmp/newfile.el 7. When in the buffer for newfile.el, type M-x eval-buffer 8. Redo step 2 and 3, but notice that the Lisp function in `help-mode.el' still remains just that. It should instead read `newfile.el'. Clicking on the link for `help-mode.el' brings me back to the original definition, not the one I have redefined in newfile.el If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger, please include the output from the following gdb commands: `bt full' and `xbacktrace'. If you would like to further debug the crash, please read the file /home/brentg/emacs_from_source/install/share/emacs/23.0.60/etc/DEBUG for instructions. In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.11) of 2009-01-10 on hungover Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10402000 configured using `configure '--with-x-toolkit' '--with-xft' '--prefix=/home/brentg/emacs_from_source/install'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Emacs-Lisp Minor modes in effect: diff-auto-refine-mode: t erc-list-mode: t erc-menu-mode: t erc-pcomplete-mode: t erc-track-mode: t erc-track-minor-mode: t erc-match-mode: t erc-button-mode: t erc-netsplit-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t iswitchb-mode: t erc-ring-mode: t erc-services-mode: t erc-networks-mode: t erc-fill-mode: t erc-stamp-mode: t erc-irccontrols-mode: t erc-noncommands-mode: t erc-move-to-prompt-mode: t erc-readonly-mode: t display-time-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t delete-selection-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: 1 transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-l C-p C-p C-p C-p C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-M-SPC M-; C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-l C-p C-p C-f C-e M-b C-M-SPC C-z C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-n C-n C-e M-( s e t q SPC m y - b a c k SPC C-v M-b C-M-SPC M-( C-a C-x C-s C-c d M-O M-P M-O C-g C-f M-P M-b M-b M-b M-b M-b C-k C-p C-p C-p C-e M-b M-b C-M-a C-M-SPC M-; C-x C-s C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-a C-n C-n C-p C-M-SPC M-; C-x C-s C-a C-n C-n C-n C-n C-M-SPC M-; C-x C-s M-P C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p M-x r e p o r r t - b u g e m b u Recent messages: Pushed a window configuration. 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