From unknown Sat Sep 06 05:55:15 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18395: shred let me kill a mounted device Resent-From: macetw Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 15:37:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 18395 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 18395@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: Bug-coreutils@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.140975858223236 (code B ref -1); Wed, 03 Sep 2014 15:37:04 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Sep 2014 15:36:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57970 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XPCbc-00062g-Su for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 11:36:21 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56607) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XPAfy-0002uH-KL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 09:32:43 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XPAfn-000747-CO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 09:32:37 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:34376) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XPAfn-000743-9k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 09:32:31 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58284) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XPAfh-0006Qb-Vp for Bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 09:32:31 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XPAfc-00071v-Tm for Bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 09:32:25 -0400 Received: from sam.nabble.com ([216.139.236.26]:33273) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XPAfc-00071H-PS for Bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 09:32:20 -0400 Received: from tom.nabble.com ([192.168.236.105]) by sam.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1XPAfb-0006or-6P for Bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2014 06:32:19 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 06:32:19 -0700 (PDT) From: macetw Message-ID: <1409751139160-23338.post@n7.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 11:36:17 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) It was a sad day for me yesterday, when I discovered that I accidentally shred'ed my /home. I expect the shred utility to notice that it's about to operate on a mounted device, but it gave no such indication. Maybe an interactive prompt, like "this disk is connected by USB | SATA | IDE" or "this disk is 250G in size", some sanity check, and then a prompt, "Are you sure?" If disks are mounted, it would say so. Oh, my stuff is gone. -- View this message in context: http://gnu-coreutils.7620.n7.nabble.com/shred-let-me-kill-a-mounted-device-tp23338.html Sent from the Gnu - Coreutils - Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. 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X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 11:53:10 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) My version of shred is 8.21 -- View this message in context: http://gnu-coreutils.7620.n7.nabble.com/shred-let-me-kill-a-mounted-device-tp23338p23339.html Sent from the Gnu - Coreutils - Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. 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[184.68.105.38]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id t196-v6sm1251061ita.30.2018.10.18.18.13.56 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 18 Oct 2018 18:13:56 -0700 (PDT) References: <1409751139160-23338.post@n7.nabble.com> From: Assaf Gordon Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 19:13:55 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1409751139160-23338.post@n7.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 18395 notabug close 18395 stop (triaging old bugs) Hello, On 03/09/14 07:32 AM, macetw wrote: > I expect the shred utility to notice that it's about to operate on a mounted > device, but it gave no such indication. It seems your email "fell between the cracks" and not replied to in many years. Sorry about that. Regarding your suggestion: Every file and every directory are essentially on a mounted device (e.g. "/" is mounted from some physical drive, and so are all its sub-directories). As a side-note, please be aware the shred's effectiveness is questionable with today's filesystems and hardware (see the warning in the manual page). As such, I'm closing this as "not a bug". Discussion can continue by replying to this thread. -assaf