From unknown Thu Sep 11 20:11:52 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18372: Bug#755351: blink-cursor-mode should respect GTK+ setting by default Resent-From: Rob Browning Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 21:06:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 18372 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 18372@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: Josh Triplett , 755351@bugs.debian.org, 755351-forwarded@bugs.debian.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.140951913931506 (code B ref -1); Sun, 31 Aug 2014 21:06:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Aug 2014 21:05:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55163 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XOCJe-0008C5-59 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 17:05:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58385) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XOCJa-0008Bp-Jq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 17:05:35 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XOCJQ-0004jO-Hl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 17:05:29 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:58596) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XOCJQ-0004jK-FN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 17:05:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60086) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XOCJI-0003au-9J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 17:05:24 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XOCJD-0004gk-Ds for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 17:05:15 -0400 Received: from defaultvalue.org ([70.85.129.156]:56798) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XOCJD-0004ge-8p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 17:05:11 -0400 Received: from trouble.defaultvalue.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: rlb@defaultvalue.org) by defaultvalue.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 24916207DE; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:05:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: by trouble.defaultvalue.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2457F14E0AD; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:05:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Rob Browning In-Reply-To: <20140719202311.12507.88471.reportbug@thin> References: <20140719202311.12507.88471.reportbug@thin> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.18.1 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:05:08 -0500 Message-ID: <878um4fjzv.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) [If possible, please preserve the -forwarded address in any replies.] This was reported to bugs.debian.org, and looked like something that would be best considered upstream. Josh Triplett writes: > In the GTK+ version of Emacs, the default setting for > blink-cursor-mode should respect the desktop setting of > org.gnome.desktop.interface.cursor-blink . An explicit setting of > blink-cursor-mode in .emacs could still override it, but the default > setting should not. > > - Josh Triplett More information here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=755351 Thanks -- Rob Browning rlb @defaultvalue.org and @debian.org GPG as of 2011-07-10 E6A9 DA3C C9FD 1FF8 C676 D2C4 C0F0 39E9 ED1B 597A GPG as of 2002-11-03 14DD 432F AE39 534D B592 F9A0 25C8 D377 8C7E 73A4 From unknown Thu Sep 11 20:11:52 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18372: Bug#755351: blink-cursor-mode should respect GTK+ setting by default Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 00:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18372 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Rob Browning Cc: 755351-forwarded@bugs.debian.org, Josh Triplett , 18372@debbugs.gnu.org, 755351@bugs.debian.org Received: via spool by 18372-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18372.140953294020803 (code B ref 18372); Mon, 01 Sep 2014 00:56:02 +0000 Received: (at 18372) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Sep 2014 00:55:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55259 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XOFuF-0005PS-8j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 20:55:39 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:52636) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XOFuC-0005PE-Og for 18372@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 20:55:37 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArUGAIDvNVNFxLul/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSsA9gRcXdIIlAQEBAQIBViMQCw4mEhQYDSSIBAjSGReOegeEOASpGYFqgXGBWyE X-IPAS-Result: ArUGAIDvNVNFxLul/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSsA9gRcXdIIlAQEBAQIBViMQCw4mEhQYDSSIBAjSGReOegeEOASpGYFqgXGBWyE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="88336988" Received: from 69-196-187-165.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.196.187.165]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 31 Aug 2014 20:55:30 -0400 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id A4913660C4; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 20:55:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <20140719202311.12507.88471.reportbug@thin> <878um4fjzv.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 20:55:30 -0400 In-Reply-To: <878um4fjzv.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> (Rob Browning's message of "Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:05:08 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) >> In the GTK+ version of Emacs, the default setting for >> blink-cursor-mode should respect the desktop setting of >> org.gnome.desktop.interface.cursor-blink . An explicit setting of >> blink-cursor-mode in .emacs could still override it, but the default >> setting should not. That would make a lot of sense, indeed. Stefan From unknown Thu Sep 11 20:11:52 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18372: Bug#755351: blink-cursor-mode should respect GTK+ setting by default Resent-From: "Jan D." Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 06:23:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18372 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Monnier , Rob Browning Cc: 18372@debbugs.gnu.org, Josh Triplett , 755351@bugs.debian.org, 755351-forwarded@bugs.debian.org Received: via spool by 18372-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18372.140955253320216 (code B ref 18372); Mon, 01 Sep 2014 06:23:01 +0000 Received: (at 18372) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Sep 2014 06:22:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55358 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XOL0H-0005Fz-Dy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 02:22:13 -0400 Received: from mailfe01.swip.net ([212.247.154.1]:49763 helo=swip.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XOL0E-0005Fi-LF for 18372@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 02:22:11 -0400 X-T2-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 Received: from hosdjarv.se (account mj138573@tele2.se [46.59.42.57] verified) by mailfe01.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPA id 528684567; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 08:22:02 +0200 Received: from jdvpro.local (unknown [176.57.193.190]) (Authenticated sender: jhd) by hosdjarv.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 809871A0365; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 06:22:02 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <54041086.9070607@swipnet.se> Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 08:21:58 +0200 From: "Jan D." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20140719202311.12507.88471.reportbug@thin> <878um4fjzv.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Stefan Monnier skrev 2014-09-01 02:55: >>> In the GTK+ version of Emacs, the default setting for >>> blink-cursor-mode should respect the desktop setting of >>> org.gnome.desktop.interface.cursor-blink . An explicit setting of >>> blink-cursor-mode in .emacs could still override it, but the default >>> setting should not. > > That would make a lot of sense, indeed. > How do you distinguish between the default and % emacs M-x blink-cursor-mode M-x blink-cursor-mode ? The latter is an explicit setting to on. Or are we just talking about customizing blink-cursor-mode? Jan D. From unknown Thu Sep 11 20:11:52 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18372: Bug#755351: blink-cursor-mode should respect GTK+ setting by default Resent-From: Josh Triplett Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 18:25:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18372 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Jan D." Cc: 755351-forwarded@bugs.debian.org, 18372@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , Rob Browning , 755351@bugs.debian.org Received: via spool by 18372-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18372.14095958837456 (code B ref 18372); Mon, 01 Sep 2014 18:25:01 +0000 Received: (at 18372) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Sep 2014 18:24:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55862 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XOWHT-0001wB-A9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 14:24:43 -0400 Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]:55189) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XOWHP-0001w1-Vd for 18372@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 14:24:41 -0400 Received: from mfilter21-d.gandi.net (mfilter21-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.149]) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B7D983FF; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 20:24:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter21-d.gandi.net Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]) by mfilter21-d.gandi.net (mfilter21-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pjOnkuA1502o; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 20:24:37 +0200 (CEST) X-Originating-IP: 50.43.15.134 Received: from thin (static-50-43-15-134.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net [50.43.15.134]) (Authenticated sender: josh@joshtriplett.org) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 76B09983F0; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 20:24:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 11:24:31 -0700 From: Josh Triplett Message-ID: <20140901182430.GA2901@thin> References: <20140719202311.12507.88471.reportbug@thin> <878um4fjzv.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <54041086.9070607@swipnet.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <54041086.9070607@swipnet.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 08:21:58AM +0200, Jan D. wrote: > Stefan Monnier skrev 2014-09-01 02:55: > >>>In the GTK+ version of Emacs, the default setting for > >>>blink-cursor-mode should respect the desktop setting of > >>>org.gnome.desktop.interface.cursor-blink . An explicit setting of > >>>blink-cursor-mode in .emacs could still override it, but the default > >>>setting should not. > > > >That would make a lot of sense, indeed. > > > > How do you distinguish between the default and > > % emacs > M-x blink-cursor-mode > M-x blink-cursor-mode > > ? For the simplest possible implementation, determine the desktop setting for whether the cursor should blink, and set blink-cursor-mode to that at startup; any explicit setting would then override that. - Josh Triplett From unknown Thu Sep 11 20:11:52 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18372: Bug#755351: blink-cursor-mode should respect GTK+ setting by default Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 18:43:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18372 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Josh Triplett Cc: jan.h.d@swipnet.se, 18372@debbugs.gnu.org, rlb@defaultvalue.org, 755351@bugs.debian.org, 755351-forwarded@bugs.debian.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 18372-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18372.14095969399339 (code B ref 18372); Mon, 01 Sep 2014 18:43:02 +0000 Received: (at 18372) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Sep 2014 18:42:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55871 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XOWYU-0002QY-8h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 14:42:18 -0400 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:33043) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XOWYR-0002QF-C3 for 18372@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 14:42:16 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NB800000JBV3I00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 18372@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 21:42:08 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NB8000B0JY71870@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 21:42:08 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 21:42:15 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <20140901182430.GA2901@thin> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83tx4rfaig.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20140719202311.12507.88471.reportbug@thin> <878um4fjzv.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <54041086.9070607@swipnet.se> <20140901182430.GA2901@thin> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 11:24:31 -0700 > From: Josh Triplett > Cc: 755351@bugs.debian.org, Rob Browning , > 18372@debbugs.gnu.org, 755351-forwarded@bugs.debian.org > > For the simplest possible implementation, determine the desktop setting > for whether the cursor should blink, and set blink-cursor-mode to that > at startup; any explicit setting would then override that. Why should we only take blink-cursor-mode from there, and ignore all the rest? E.g., cursor-blink-time and cursor-blink-timeout. And then there are other settings, like cursor-size, clock-format, etc. It makes very little sense to take only one setting. (I know nothing about GTK, so apologies if these are silly questions.) From unknown Thu Sep 11 20:11:52 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18372: Bug#755351: blink-cursor-mode should respect GTK+ setting by default Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 22:22:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18372 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 755351@bugs.debian.org, 18372@debbugs.gnu.org, Josh Triplett , rlb@defaultvalue.org, 755351-forwarded@bugs.debian.org Received: via spool by 18372-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18372.140961007430465 (code B ref 18372); Mon, 01 Sep 2014 22:22:01 +0000 Received: (at 18372) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Sep 2014 22:21:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55967 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XOZyL-0007vI-Ni for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 18:21:14 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:29612) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XOZyJ-0007v2-MI for 18372@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 18:21:12 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArUGAIDvNVNFpZEG/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSsA9gRcXdIIlAQEBAQIBViMFCws0EhQYDSSIBAjSGReOegeEOAEDqRmBaoFxgVsh X-IPAS-Result: ArUGAIDvNVNFpZEG/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSsA9gRcXdIIlAQEBAQIBViMFCws0EhQYDSSIBAjSGReOegeEOAEDqRmBaoFxgVsh X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="88431844" Received: from 69-165-145-6.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO fmsmemgm.homelinux.net) ([69.165.145.6]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 01 Sep 2014 18:21:05 -0400 Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 54CB9AE176; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 18:21:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <20140719202311.12507.88471.reportbug@thin> <878um4fjzv.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <54041086.9070607@swipnet.se> <20140901182430.GA2901@thin> <83tx4rfaig.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 18:21:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83tx4rfaig.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 01 Sep 2014 21:42:15 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > Why should we only take blink-cursor-mode from there, and ignore all > the rest? Nobody asked to ignore the rest ;-) > E.g., cursor-blink-time and cursor-blink-timeout. And then > there are other settings, like cursor-size, clock-format, etc. It > makes very little sense to take only one setting. Currently we only take a few things such as foreground and background color. I agree that we should take "anything that's applicable". Stefan From unknown Thu Sep 11 20:11:52 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18372: Bug#755351: blink-cursor-mode should respect GTK+ setting by default Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 22:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18372 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Jan D." Cc: 755351-forwarded@bugs.debian.org, 18372@debbugs.gnu.org, 755351@bugs.debian.org, Rob Browning , Josh Triplett Received: via spool by 18372-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18372.140961010930518 (code B ref 18372); Mon, 01 Sep 2014 22:22:02 +0000 Received: (at 18372) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Sep 2014 22:21:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55970 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XOZyu-0007w8-Mz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 18:21:48 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:56066) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XOZys-0007vt-4c for 18372@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 18:21:46 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArUGAIDvNVNFpZEG/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSsA9gRcXdIIlAQEBAQIBViMFCws0EhQYDSSIBAjSGReOegeEOAEDqRmBaoFxgVsh X-IPAS-Result: ArUGAIDvNVNFpZEG/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSsA9gRcXdIIlAQEBAQIBViMFCws0EhQYDSSIBAjSGReOegeEOAEDqRmBaoFxgVsh X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="88431923" Received: from 69-165-145-6.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO fmsmemgm.homelinux.net) ([69.165.145.6]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 01 Sep 2014 18:21:40 -0400 Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 1AAFCAE176; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 18:21:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <20140719202311.12507.88471.reportbug@thin> <878um4fjzv.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <54041086.9070607@swipnet.se> Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 18:21:39 -0400 In-Reply-To: <54041086.9070607@swipnet.se> (Jan D.'s message of "Mon, 01 Sep 2014 08:21:58 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) >>>> In the GTK+ version of Emacs, the default setting for >>>> blink-cursor-mode should respect the desktop setting of >>>> org.gnome.desktop.interface.cursor-blink . An explicit setting of >>>> blink-cursor-mode in .emacs could still override it, but the default >>>> setting should not. >> That would make a lot of sense, indeed. > How do you distinguish between the default and > % emacs > M-x blink-cursor-mode > M-x blink-cursor-mode > ? > The latter is an explicit setting to on. No, AFAICT it's just asking to toggle it twice. Stefan From unknown Thu Sep 11 20:11:52 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18372: Bug#755351: blink-cursor-mode should respect GTK+ setting by default Resent-From: Josh Triplett Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 22:48:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18372 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: jan.h.d@swipnet.se, 18372@debbugs.gnu.org, rlb@defaultvalue.org, 755351@bugs.debian.org, 755351-forwarded@bugs.debian.org Received: via spool by 18372-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18372.1409611660775 (code B ref 18372); Mon, 01 Sep 2014 22:48:02 +0000 Received: (at 18372) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Sep 2014 22:47:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56020 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XOaNv-0000CQ-Ta for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 18:47:40 -0400 Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]:53379) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XOaNs-0000CG-SN for 18372@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 18:47:37 -0400 Received: from mfilter26-d.gandi.net (mfilter26-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.154]) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD19A80AC; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 00:47:34 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter26-d.gandi.net Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]) by mfilter26-d.gandi.net (mfilter26-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yRQiGnhJ21mh; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 00:47:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Originating-IP: 50.43.15.134 Received: from thin (static-50-43-15-134.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net [50.43.15.134]) (Authenticated sender: josh@joshtriplett.org) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5119FA80AD; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 00:47:31 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 15:47:29 -0700 From: Josh Triplett Message-ID: <20140901224729.GA9066@thin> References: <20140719202311.12507.88471.reportbug@thin> <878um4fjzv.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <54041086.9070607@swipnet.se> <20140901182430.GA2901@thin> <83tx4rfaig.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83tx4rfaig.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 09:42:15PM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 11:24:31 -0700 > > From: Josh Triplett > > Cc: 755351@bugs.debian.org, Rob Browning , > > 18372@debbugs.gnu.org, 755351-forwarded@bugs.debian.org > > > > For the simplest possible implementation, determine the desktop setting > > for whether the cursor should blink, and set blink-cursor-mode to that > > at startup; any explicit setting would then override that. > > Why should we only take blink-cursor-mode from there, and ignore all > the rest? E.g., cursor-blink-time and cursor-blink-timeout. And then > there are other settings, like cursor-size, clock-format, etc. It > makes very little sense to take only one setting. > > (I know nothing about GTK, so apologies if these are silly questions.) By all means, please do so. blink-cursor-mode was just the particular one that motivated my report. - Josh Triplett From unknown Thu Sep 11 20:11:52 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18372: Bug#755351: blink-cursor-mode should respect GTK+ setting by default Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 04:58:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18372 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: "755351-forwarded@bugs.debian.org" <755351-forwarded@bugs.debian.org>, "18372@debbugs.gnu.org" <18372@debbugs.gnu.org>, Josh Triplett , "755351@bugs.debian.org" <755351@bugs.debian.org>, "rlb@defaultvalue.org" Received: via spool by 18372-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18372.14096338603216 (code B ref 18372); Tue, 02 Sep 2014 04:58:01 +0000 Received: (at 18372) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Sep 2014 04:57:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56283 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XOgA0-0000pn-5F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 00:57:40 -0400 Received: from mailfe06.swip.net ([212.247.154.161]:32803 helo=swip.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XOg9x-0000pY-4V for 18372@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 00:57:38 -0400 X-T2-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 Received: from hosdjarv.se (account mj138573@tele2.se [46.59.42.57] verified) by mailfe06.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPA id 526285370; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 06:57:28 +0200 References: <20140719202311.12507.88471.reportbug@thin> <878um4fjzv.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <54041086.9070607@swipnet.se> <20140901182430.GA2901@thin> <83tx4rfaig.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <83tx4rfaig.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <45DDD72A-693B-4145-B220-A5113886E8CA@swipnet.se> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D257) From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 06:57:26 +0200 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Hi. 1 sep 2014 kl. 20:42 skrev Eli Zaretskii : >> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 11:24:31 -0700 >> From: Josh Triplett >> Cc: 755351@bugs.debian.org, Rob Browning , >> 18372@debbugs.gnu.org, 755351-forwarded@bugs.debian.org >> >> For the simplest possible implementation, determine the desktop setting >> for whether the cursor should blink, and set blink-cursor-mode to that >> at startup; any explicit setting would then override that. > > Why should we only take blink-cursor-mode from there, and ignore all > the rest? E.g., cursor-blink-time and cursor-blink-timeout. And then > there are other settings, like cursor-size, clock-format, etc. It > makes very little sense to take only one setting. > > (I know nothing about GTK, so apologies if these are silly questions.) From unknown Thu Sep 11 20:11:52 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18372: Bug#755351: blink-cursor-mode should respect GTK+ setting by default Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 05:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18372 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: "755351-forwarded@bugs.debian.org" <755351-forwarded@bugs.debian.org>, "18372@debbugs.gnu.org" <18372@debbugs.gnu.org>, Josh Triplett , "755351@bugs.debian.org" <755351@bugs.debian.org>, "rlb@defaultvalue.org" Received: via spool by 18372-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18372.14096343794075 (code B ref 18372); Tue, 02 Sep 2014 05:07:01 +0000 Received: (at 18372) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Sep 2014 05:06:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56287 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XOgIM-00013e-DH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 01:06:19 -0400 Received: from mailfe06.swip.net ([212.247.154.161]:35661 helo=swip.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XOgIK-00013P-70 for 18372@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 01:06:16 -0400 X-T2-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40 Received: from hosdjarv.se (account mj138573@tele2.se [46.59.42.57] verified) by mailfe06.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPA id 526287232; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 07:06:00 +0200 References: <20140719202311.12507.88471.reportbug@thin> <878um4fjzv.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <54041086.9070607@swipnet.se> <20140901182430.GA2901@thin> <83tx4rfaig.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <83tx4rfaig.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <67DC170C-4CD6-4F11-9C4A-955537B6CCD2@swipnet.se> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D257) From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 07:05:58 +0200 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Hi. 1 sep 2014 kl. 20:42 skrev Eli Zaretskii : >> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 11:24:31 -0700 >> From: Josh Triplett >> Cc: 755351@bugs.debian.org, Rob Browning , >> 18372@debbugs.gnu.org, 755351-forwarded@bugs.debian.org >>=20 >> For the simplest possible implementation, determine the desktop setting >> for whether the cursor should blink, and set blink-cursor-mode to that >> at startup; any explicit setting would then override that. >=20 > Why should we only take blink-cursor-mode from there, and ignore all > the rest? E.g., cursor-blink-time and cursor-blink-timeout. And then > there are other settings, like cursor-size, clock-format, etc. It > makes very little sense to take only one setting. Those that we look at had a GUI in Gnome at one point to change them. Also t= he set of settings has not been very stable. There is no GUI in current Gnom= e to change them, so they aren't really the place where a user can easily tw= eak settings.=20 So in 99% (figure from air) of the cases these settings are never changed. I= t is not worth it to track a setting that with high probability will be remo= ved or change name/place within two years.=20 Jan D.=20= From unknown Thu Sep 11 20:11:52 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18372: Bug#755351: blink-cursor-mode should respect GTK+ setting by default Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2022 14:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18372 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Cc: "18372@debbugs.gnu.org" <18372@debbugs.gnu.org>, Josh Triplett , Po Lu , "rlb@defaultvalue.org" , Eli Zaretskii , "755351@bugs.debian.org" <755351@bugs.debian.org>, "755351-forwarded@bugs.debian.org" <755351-forwarded@bugs.debian.org> Received: via spool by 18372-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18372.16565145164844 (code B ref 18372); Wed, 29 Jun 2022 14:56:01 +0000 Received: (at 18372) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jun 2022 14:55:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59781 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o6Z64-0001G3-6A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2022 10:55:16 -0400 Received: from mail-pg1-f174.google.com ([209.85.215.174]:33391) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o6Z62-0001FX-DI for 18372@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2022 10:55:14 -0400 Received: by mail-pg1-f174.google.com with SMTP id z14so15598419pgh.0 for <18372@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 29 Jun 2022 07:55:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TT2vk8MpUX8gMNTEh2OwluQQuSuKGj3HBVGOIsAKXco=; b=nG0Y34zEZ988HUeqnlKKiW292VTPVnkQzgKe5xtMYqsImt9n3sWPJz7/ujsBjzJf1T ecW93Rqwbjgx4ed7Ov6QFWf0oecP6kUo/WNE6KAArpNa6VbcjivotJgLyA/l8Vd4RIvl CRbMAVfATUm+UsaXiPIpXWco74kiIx3qg35c4u99269mFHrUMKflzGxhFqQW6QZlSEX6 uSJLetJHb41SEZK4necMy65Q62wJa64srK0FtkSKv65VL8VKolhdawz8XrBrPlLUgvW/ bg9zBLCEPnYODlBx3rkjNf0tHStPh4olLajofpE6CxLdk/ESjcNYtWdSMVKb+FZc4i53 ojng== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora9kkSLay/YE4WkceGCsEAYGo1pTeaPvsRf5YHxw1WrmkJOGWdvP DQ4iGZDD1j+IEhTzJujMKaVk6auwE0n4i+fXMwY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1s7eoo5k5f4+60onOo7DCJGmmYnekz4ThVjQnFJdMhT1RuMU8dAD7vVVR8fFFxgraJvxQP7UHSF10TpRx4LEMg= X-Received: by 2002:a63:ed48:0:b0:40d:9866:6834 with SMTP id m8-20020a63ed48000000b0040d98666834mr3273194pgk.324.1656514508762; Wed, 29 Jun 2022 07:55:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Wed, 29 Jun 2022 07:55:08 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <67DC170C-4CD6-4F11-9C4A-955537B6CCD2@swipnet.se> ("Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?="'s message of "Tue, 2 Sep 2014 07:05:58 +0200") References: <20140719202311.12507.88471.reportbug@thin> <878um4fjzv.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <54041086.9070607@swipnet.se> <20140901182430.GA2901@thin> <83tx4rfaig.fsf@gnu.org> <67DC170C-4CD6-4F11-9C4A-955537B6CCD2@swipnet.se> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2022 07:55:08 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Jan Dj=C3=A4rv writes: > Hi. > > 1 sep 2014 kl. 20:42 skrev Eli Zaretskii : > >>> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 11:24:31 -0700 >>> From: Josh Triplett >>> Cc: 755351@bugs.debian.org, Rob Browning , >>> 18372@debbugs.gnu.org, 755351-forwarded@bugs.debian.org >>> >>> For the simplest possible implementation, determine the desktop setting >>> for whether the cursor should blink, and set blink-cursor-mode to that >>> at startup; any explicit setting would then override that. >> >> Why should we only take blink-cursor-mode from there, and ignore all >> the rest? E.g., cursor-blink-time and cursor-blink-timeout. And then >> there are other settings, like cursor-size, clock-format, etc. It >> makes very little sense to take only one setting. > > Those that we look at had a GUI in Gnome at one point to change them. Als= o the > set of settings has not been very stable. There is no GUI in current Gnom= e to > change them, so they aren't really the place where a user can easily twea= k > settings. > > So in 99% (figure from air) of the cases these settings are never > changed. It is not worth it to track a setting that with high > probability will be removed or change name/place within two years. So if we don't want to chase these settings, does it make sense to keep this bug open? Maybe Po Lu has any comments? 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID b3492c3da8ddaad042bc61a4f46abd75; Thu, 30 Jun 2022 01:09:06 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu References: <20140719202311.12507.88471.reportbug@thin> <878um4fjzv.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <54041086.9070607@swipnet.se> <20140901182430.GA2901@thin> <83tx4rfaig.fsf@gnu.org> <67DC170C-4CD6-4F11-9C4A-955537B6CCD2@swipnet.se> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2022 09:09:01 +0800 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Wed, 29 Jun 2022 07:55:08 -0700") Message-ID: <87zghvufde.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20381 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 662 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Stefan Kangas writes: >> Those that we look at had a GUI in Gnome at one point to change them. Also the >> set of settings has not been very stable. There is no GUI in current Gnome to >> change them, so they aren't really the place where a user can easily tweak >> settings. >> >> So in 99% (figure from air) of the cases these settings are never >> changed. It is not worth it to track a setting that with high >> probability will be removed or change name/place within two years. > > So if we don't want to chase these settings, does it make sense to keep > this bug open? Maybe Po Lu has any comments? No, I think it should be closed. From unknown Thu Sep 11 20:11:52 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18372: Bug#755351: blink-cursor-mode should respect GTK+ setting by default Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2022 11:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18372 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Po Lu Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Josh Triplett , 18372@debbugs.gnu.org, "rlb@defaultvalue.org" Received: via spool by 18372-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18372.165702189325232 (code B ref 18372); Tue, 05 Jul 2022 11:52:02 +0000 Received: (at 18372) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jul 2022 11:51:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49545 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o8h5Z-0006Yt-FB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2022 07:51:33 -0400 Received: from mail-pf1-f178.google.com ([209.85.210.178]:45805) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1o8h5Y-0006YZ-1S for 18372@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2022 07:51:32 -0400 Received: by mail-pf1-f178.google.com with SMTP id 128so11257517pfv.12 for <18372@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 05 Jul 2022 04:51:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=gyVqMHAETn8EEiRIX/GRNdfOiS4gQZc5z48eFfcBzLo=; b=ki3t+NzzOEcoGiZIQ/tm3ojnylyvhpvH7/ZxO95gq1VkYovdwHraprh6JYSQEP0I0d aSnXNnXpcqDDieq5r8tRkQnjs9QlDKoYsCIvMq7mTS1iT6l5MgV0AQQTkzTI8MwACah4 DtkEZS6ce4awtASJYFoBQ19X9COFf3iasBabTbFGOSMgxJbbKJePZbzWsvVUS9jhoJK5 og6klE68vtxnF99D6j4XlLw24N/MQiGMSh9IcVgTFwdMu5+TGanpKZhYOtECrGQYnMtl Y3YtpLhwQ9t587XggmwEls9aOWasB5Hrt+LXbULESPp3EJj5ldg9TpoiI8SZBLioHRrb gnVw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora/y2B+zECPZN/zy8rZqw0pd8JmPxEFzAfg97NVeaoaBYxD75lVN rj8xb5kwIMV0WtCkO7Kf9C03ZgscUnCU31LQ2P4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1uTuWR2+1xe8SjeJEphT+o62T8tauHjzQ6K+8843R/GQZgZcjg08eG+Yd3DSuLmbFd37iZyNAz3pQoo1JrvBN8= X-Received: by 2002:a63:8849:0:b0:40d:e25:9fb2 with SMTP id l70-20020a638849000000b0040d0e259fb2mr29994638pgd.592.1657021886237; Tue, 05 Jul 2022 04:51:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20140719202311.12507.88471.reportbug@thin> <878um4fjzv.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <54041086.9070607@swipnet.se> <20140901182430.GA2901@thin> <83tx4rfaig.fsf@gnu.org> <67DC170C-4CD6-4F11-9C4A-955537B6CCD2@swipnet.se> <87zghvufde.fsf@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <87zghvufde.fsf@yahoo.com> From: Stefan Kangas Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2022 13:51:15 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) tags 18372 + wontfix close 18372 thanks Po Lu writes: > > So if we don't want to chase these settings, does it make sense to keep > > this bug open? Maybe Po Lu has any comments? > > No, I think it should be closed. OK, done.