From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 27 00:33:23 2014 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Aug 2014 04:33:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53116 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XMUvD-0005lo-1o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 00:33:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57159) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XMUvA-0005lV-DC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 00:33:21 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XMUuu-0000dV-Lj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 00:33:14 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,SUBJ_OBFU_PUNCT_FEW autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:41392) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XMUuu-0000dR-Il for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 00:33:04 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58837) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XMUul-0003Ng-QQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 00:33:04 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XMUua-0000Yr-Mv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 00:32:55 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:33361) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XMUua-0000YU-Gp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 00:32:44 -0400 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s7R4We8d020033 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 04:32:41 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s7R4Wc6E003511 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 04:32:40 GMT Received: from abhmp0004.oracle.com (abhmp0004.oracle.com [141.146.116.10]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s7R4WbR9012068 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 04:32:37 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 21:32:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.4.50; Typo: title of `enriched.txt' is `enriched.el' X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Presumably, someone renamed the file and forgot to update the title at the top of the text. This oublie predates even Emacs 20, it seems, for there the file is named `enriched.doc' (it is the same file, with the same name, for Emacs 24.3 and prior) but the title remains `enriched.el'. But I wonder about this: The file was presumably originally `enriched.el', and so presumably in Emacs Lisp mode. The Emacs manual, node `Enriched Text' currently says this: Enriched mode is typically used with Text mode (*note Text Mode::). It is _not_ compatible with Font Lock mode, which is used by many major modes, including most programming language modes, for syntax highlighting (*note Font Lock::). Unlike Enriched mode, Font Lock mode assigns text properties automatically, based on the current buffer contents; those properties are not saved to disk. I would like to know more about just what this incompatibility amounts to. This text is new with Emacs 24.4, and there is no more explanation than that. Why was this added? Why not let users know what it means? If you mean only that font-lock highlighting interferes with enriched-mode highlighting, that is one thing - and in this, enriched-mode is no different from other highlighting using text-property `face'. If you something stronger wrt incompatibility, then please document what it is. In GNU Emacs 24.4.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2014-06-28 on ODIEONE Bzr revision: 117431 rgm@gnu.org-20140628015517-eku6hj8mpgcvfnso Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --prefix=3D/c/Devel/emacs/snapshot/trunk --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs 'CFLAGS=3D-O0 -g3' LDFLAGS=3D-Lc:/Devel/emacs/lib 'CPPFLAGS=3D-DGC_MCHECK=3D1 -Ic:/Devel/emacs/include'' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 27 00:51:28 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Aug 2014 04:51:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53124 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XMVCi-0006F3-5J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 00:51:28 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:45576 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XMVCg-0006Ev-1Q for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 00:51:26 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XMVCf-0007p5-Qt for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 00:51:25 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 00:51:25 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 18335 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) tag 18335 notabug From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 27 00:51:15 2014 Received: (at 18335-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Aug 2014 04:51:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53121 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XMVCU-0006EZ-9r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 00:51:14 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:45574 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XMVCQ-0006EP-RH for 18335-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 00:51:11 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XMVCP-0007lY-RR; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 00:51:09 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 18335-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#18335: 24.4.50; Typo: title of `enriched.txt' is `enriched.el' References: X-Spook: Panama Gazprom CipherTAC-2000 investigation Axis of Evil X-Ran: 1|hrLgR9b3*y_@{SZzev<{w)8F+rIF1RJ.=BdHT7k.}`3l!/mZBd (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 26 Aug 2014 21:32:37 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18335-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Drew Adams wrote: > the title remains `enriched.el'. It's describing the features of enriched.el. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 27 01:06:22 2014 Received: (at 18335-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Aug 2014 05:06:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53141 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XMVR7-0007r1-J2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 01:06:21 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:47965) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XMVR4-0007qn-Ux for 18335-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 01:06:19 -0400 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s7R56Ch7016785 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 27 Aug 2014 05:06:13 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s7R56BeQ003888 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Aug 2014 05:06:11 GMT Received: from abhmp0004.oracle.com (abhmp0004.oracle.com [141.146.116.10]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s7R56B6H014558; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 05:06:11 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <44164f5e-4a2e-4de6-a3f6-574b7bb2771d@default> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 22:06:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: Glenn Morris , 18335-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: RE: bug#18335: 24.4.50; Typo: title of `enriched.txt' is `enriched.el' References: In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18335-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) > > the title remains `enriched.el'. >=20 > It's describing the features of enriched.el. Well of course it does that - anything that describes Enriched mode does that. But it certainly is not describing `enriched.el'.=20 It tells you nothing about the code. And Emacs does not introduce this file to its users as something that describes `enriched.el'. Not at all. This is how Emacs introduces the file to users - in (emacs) `Enriched Text': The file `enriched.txt' in Emacs's `data-directory' serves as an example of the features of Enriched mode. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The file serves as our primary example, for ordinary users (not necessarily Lispers), of Enriched mode. It is end-user doc about Enriched mode. It is not an explanation or description of `enriched.el'. From unknown Fri Sep 05 08:22:01 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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