From unknown Sun Jun 22 22:44:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18284: nnfolder-directory not honoring message-directory Resent-From: Carlos Pita Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:17:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 18284 X-GNU-PR-Package: gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 18284@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys) Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.140831020722637 (code B ref -1); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:17:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Aug 2014 21:16:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45652 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XJ7ok-0005t2-EN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:16:46 -0400 Received: from mail-yk0-f177.google.com ([209.85.160.177]:43102) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XJ7oh-0005sn-9x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:16:44 -0400 Received: by mail-yk0-f177.google.com with SMTP id 79so3659142ykr.8 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:16:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-type; bh=9npvriiBUIE0l8Af1Uhp7Hl29mszXDZYhO3cn2nIORs=; b=o85l0w4CQ69F0sh7mqsgbbTm4PZKcgmIghRJaajmC/SdOklAZTXgyJjlGK76IjhTn4 I/A+BZpPLNvPkwumA7SMRyn9MN5lrEFlTbNTdlQCTGXyKQEbmlz8IRqz8jBFcL2p0q+6 gPbQyie58XNOqT3r1ci+oKhBtwK1PMLal+NomEnnttVTN/632kMUfZqa7fHVWyUaerQV B677FWRY7Rc0DyJkPASPSW/5+36RCCBn/9osXkNQjWt60gbXtrQSFwToMumBz5Nfh4VQ Lpc4pCvluTNzjvjCofaDIivdNBhUTY81DwXBkpGXn4DwfIWrEtylPmEi/yqDmvBbDVnq fK8w== X-Received: by 10.236.51.73 with SMTP id a49mr47843294yhc.80.1408310197728; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:16:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([190.48.85.52]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 45sm31655142yhj.32.2014.08.17.14.16.35 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:16:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Carlos Pita Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:17:07 -0300 Message-ID: <86wqa6olyk.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) The documentation states that: nnfolder-directory All the nnfolder mail boxes will be stored under this directory. The default is the value of message-directory (whose default is ~/Mail) This seems indeed true if we look at nnfolder.el: (defvoo nnfolder-directory (expand-file-name message-directory) "The name of the nnfolder directory.") But then the first line of nnfolder-open-server reverts the value to the default "~/Mail/archive", no matter what the value of message-directory were: (deffoo nnfolder-open-server (server &optional defs) (nnoo-change-server 'nnfolder server defs) You can better appreciate the problem in the following backtrace: nnoo-change-server(nnfolder "archive" ((nnfolder-directory "~/Mail/archive") (nnfolder-active-file "~/Mail/archive/active") (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t))) nnfolder-open-server("archive" ((nnfolder-directory "~/Mail/archive") (nnfolder-active-file "~/Mail/archive/active") (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t))) gnus-open-server((nnfolder "archive" (nnfolder-directory "~/Mail/archive") (nnfolder-active-file "~/Mail/archive/active") (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t))) gnus-check-server((nnfolder "archive" (nnfolder-directory "~/Mail/archive") (nnfolder-active-file "~/Mail/archive/active") (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t))) gnus-ask-server-for-new-groups() gnus-find-new-newsgroups() One workaround is to explicitly define the archive method in order to override the "~/Mail/archive". But, still, this is a bug because it clearly contradicts what's documented. See also: http://superuser.com/questions/519685/gnus-get-rid-of-mail-and-news-folders Regards -- Carlos -------------------------- Gnus v5.13 GNU Emacs 24.3.93.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.12.2) of 2014-08-16 on localhost 200 news.gmane.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.5.1 ready (posting ok) 100 Legal commands ARTICLE [message-ID|number] AUTHINFO USER name|PASS password|GENERIC program [argument ...] BODY [message-ID|number] CAPABILITIES [keyword] DATE GROUP newsgroup HDR header [message-ID|range] HEAD [message-ID|number] HELP IHAVE message-ID LAST LIST [ACTIVE [wildmat]|ACTIVE.TIMES [wildmat]|DISTRIB.PATS|DISTRIBUTIONS|HEADERS [MSGID|RANGE]|MODERATORS|MOTD|NEWSGROUPS [wildmat]|OVERVIEW.FMT|SUBSCRIPTIONS] LISTGROUP [newsgroup [range]] MODE READER NEWGROUPS [yy]yymmdd hhmmss [GMT] NEWNEWS wildmat [yy]yymmdd hhmmss [GMT] NEXT OVER [range] POST QUIT STARTTLS STAT [message-ID|number] XGTITLE [wildmat] XHDR header [message-ID|range] XOVER [range] XPAT header message-ID|range pattern [pattern ...] Report problems to . . 382 Begin TLS negotiation now 100 Legal commands ARTICLE [message-ID|number] AUTHINFO USER name|PASS password|GENERIC program [argument ...] BODY [message-ID|number] CAPABILITIES [keyword] DATE GROUP newsgroup HDR header [message-ID|range] HEAD [message-ID|number] HELP IHAVE message-ID LAST LIST [ACTIVE [wildmat]|ACTIVE.TIMES [wildmat]|DISTRIB.PATS|DISTRIBUTIONS|HEADERS [MSGID|RANGE]|MODERATORS|MOTD|NEWSGROUPS [wildmat]|OVERVIEW.FMT|SUBSCRIPTIONS] LISTGROUP [newsgroup [range]] MODE READER NEWGROUPS [yy]yymmdd hhmmss [GMT] NEWNEWS wildmat [yy]yymmdd hhmmss [GMT] NEXT OVER [range] POST QUIT STARTTLS STAT [message-ID|number] XGTITLE [wildmat] XHDR header [message-ID|range] XOVER [range] XPAT header message-ID|range pattern [pattern ...] Report problems to . . From unknown Sun Jun 22 22:44:41 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18284: (no subject) References: <86wqa6olyk.fsf@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <86wqa6olyk.fsf@gmail.com> Resent-From: Carlos Pita Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:57:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18284 X-GNU-PR-Package: gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 18284@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 18284-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18284.140831260026736 (code B ref 18284); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:57:02 +0000 Received: (at 18284) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Aug 2014 21:56:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45658 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XJ8RM-0006xA-65 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:56:40 -0400 Received: from mail-yh0-f46.google.com ([209.85.213.46]:39532) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XJ8RK-0006wx-0N for 18284@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:56:38 -0400 Received: by mail-yh0-f46.google.com with SMTP id a41so3899660yho.33 for <18284@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:56:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=BIc3ZvlKctRWmUJD9lS/0JmpRS246P1K2VrPABEpt/E=; b=TcI0XjVBxr70qNGYM5cklhedRFjz2vIjRzBKKQrN/ceYcaXNdqxx0DWOYlwXuPiIp/ ZHihY9u4b13SVUxPtQjzEJwoJ2aV9w0IXfmUVev6oLsCV2bxZ9a4wA489kfONvApOeYE 4nVJWBB9XlxrgFeTUY8w3sGAt4rvRB7Ij5DNt6pr/VDN1rdELDPTw2TqNdPwYnhsvU1Z vdJH3OGxTTHPter4KzY8oaLHaRQnULVTKSBM+SOKzqJ3VMpwlsisxxMF0PFXv6SzUC6F fUX5my9tRDuOaJ7ynV7XNItGuuSLZ4C/oJkFKvyS92SlYUorJRjQdY2pUgSzR4pGIqJ1 KMeg== X-Received: by 10.236.81.243 with SMTP id m79mr51922148yhe.28.1408312592147; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([190.48.85.52]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id c61sm31835950yhk.25.2014.08.17.14.56.29 for <18284@debbugs.gnu.org> (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:56:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Carlos Pita Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:56:59 -0300 Message-ID: <86lhqmhj9w.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Well, my newsrc happened to have an archive source already defined with the "~/Mail/archive" directory, so it was overriding my message-directory setting. Thus I had to delete this variable from newsrc and everything worked as expected after that. You can close this ticket but a cautionary word in the documentation would prevent a nightmarishly debug session. [...] Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [209.85.213.46 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (carlosjosepita[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.8 MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject: header 0.2 NO_SUBJECT Extra score for no subject 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid Well, my newsrc happened to have an archive source already defined with the "~/Mail/archive" directory, so it was overriding my message-directory setting. Thus I had to delete this variable from newsrc and everything worked as expected after that. You can close this ticket but a cautionary word in the documentation would prevent a nightmarishly debug session. 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