From unknown Sat Aug 16 23:48:59 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18235: emacs -nw still depends on libXcursor.so.1 Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 22:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 18235 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 18235@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.14076248533691 (code B ref -1); Sat, 09 Aug 2014 22:55:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Aug 2014 22:54:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36812 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XGFWf-0000xS-B9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 18:54:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37435) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XGFWb-0000xD-Vu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 18:54:10 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XGFWP-0003cx-FP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 18:54:04 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:35340) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XGFWP-0003cs-Cm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 18:53:57 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39131) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XGFWJ-00053v-8w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 18:53:57 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XGFWA-0003b4-2l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 18:53:51 -0400 Received: from homie.mail.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.208]:42628 helo=homiemail-a99.g.dreamhost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XGFW9-0003av-Sj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 18:53:42 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a99.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a99.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25D6FB0078 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 15:53:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=date:from :to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=mcryPO7Q8TRBvwV86lyMVdBjKnQ=; b=jHCz1ngOpKm2LpUqFHWhgK8gZP0n GM5N+jaEceMABwj1+kiO6q+vm8L2AHjUnh/6eUpbdWW1TxWM3xKJbZTYyV9YDkuj 0e2hJS3XZGXn/AUCayxrE25QisuybeAZCAE+EIGXIuUWRogfpXc/YVTSPCPQHksm SY/hHzxDSMmSfto= Received: from jidanni.org (114-41-38-174.dynamic.hinet.net [114.41.38.174]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a99.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 90D73FB0077 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 15:53:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 06:53:37 +0800 From: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Message-ID: <20140809225337.GA5422@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) $ emacs -nw -q emacs: error while loading shared libraries: libXcursor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory True, my system is broken today. However perhaps to increase resilliance, maybe if the user uses -nw, perhaps that X stuff can not be attempted to get pulled in. That way a single emacs binary, would also be useful, for those days when one is repairing their system. So no need to install a separate emacs-non-x package... when in fact the system might be in such bad shape to make installation impossible, etc. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 09 19:45:57 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Aug 2014 23:45:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36821 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XGGKj-0002Fk-40 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 19:45:57 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:45448 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XGGKg-0002Fb-AY for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 19:45:55 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XGGKg-0007xJ-2M for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 19:45:54 -0400 Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 19:45:54 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 18235 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) tag 18235 wontfix From unknown Sat Aug 16 23:48:59 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.503 (Entity 5.503) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson Subject: bug#18235: closed (Re: bug#18235: emacs -nw still depends on libXcursor.so.1) Message-ID: References: <20140809225337.GA5422@jidanni.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 18235 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs X-Gnu-PR-Keywords: wontfix Reply-To: 18235@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 23:46:03 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1407627963-8695-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1407627963-8695-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #18235: emacs -nw still depends on libXcursor.so.1 which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 18235@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 18235: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D18235 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1407627963-8695-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 18235-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Aug 2014 23:45:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36818 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XGGKR-0002FA-Ed for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 19:45:40 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:45441 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XGGKO-0002Er-Dk for 18235-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 19:45:38 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XGGKD-0007eB-An; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 19:45:25 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 18235-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#18235: emacs -nw still depends on libXcursor.so.1 References: <20140809225337.GA5422@jidanni.org> X-Spook: Peking CID fundamentalist 9/11 SHA STARLAN bootleg rs9512c X-Ran: 4l,.}Sh8\2eE=zwuO+mb]5)'V28uP+ATcLv>E{"4;r|(Zu3m+IIW<>UswCPD](fh0rzH|T X-Hue: blue X-Attribution: GM Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 19:45:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20140809225337.GA5422@jidanni.org> (=?utf-8?B?IuepjeS4uQ==?= =?utf-8?B?5bC8?= Dan Jacobson"'s message of "Sun, 10 Aug 2014 06:53:37 +0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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Sat, 9 Aug 2014 15:53:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=date:from :to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=mcryPO7Q8TRBvwV86lyMVdBjKnQ=; b=jHCz1ngOpKm2LpUqFHWhgK8gZP0n GM5N+jaEceMABwj1+kiO6q+vm8L2AHjUnh/6eUpbdWW1TxWM3xKJbZTYyV9YDkuj 0e2hJS3XZGXn/AUCayxrE25QisuybeAZCAE+EIGXIuUWRogfpXc/YVTSPCPQHksm SY/hHzxDSMmSfto= Received: from jidanni.org (114-41-38-174.dynamic.hinet.net [114.41.38.174]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a99.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 90D73FB0077 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 15:53:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 06:53:37 +0800 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: emacs -nw still depends on libXcursor.so.1 Message-ID: <20140809225337.GA5422@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) $ emacs -nw -q emacs: error while loading shared libraries: libXcursor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory True, my system is broken today. However perhaps to increase resilliance, maybe if the user uses -nw, perhaps that X stuff can not be attempted to get pulled in. That way a single emacs binary, would also be useful, for those days when one is repairing their system. So no need to install a separate emacs-non-x package... when in fact the system might be in such bad shape to make installation impossible, etc. ------------=_1407627963-8695-1-- From unknown Sat Aug 16 23:48:59 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#18235: emacs -nw still depends on libXcursor.so.1 Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 01:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18235 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: 18235@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: rgm@gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org Received: via spool by 18235-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18235.140763517825099 (code B ref 18235); Sun, 10 Aug 2014 01:47:02 +0000 Received: (at 18235) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Aug 2014 01:46:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36895 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XGIDB-0006Wk-4I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 21:46:18 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:24517) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XGID9-0006WS-1v for 18235@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 21:46:15 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArYGAIDvNVPAqyKr/2dsb2JhbABZgwY7gw/APYEXF3SCJQEBAQECAVYjBQsLNBIUGA2IKAjSGReOegcWhCIEqwODTCE X-IPAS-Result: ArYGAIDvNVPAqyKr/2dsb2JhbABZgwY7gw/APYEXF3SCJQEBAQECAVYjBQsLNBIUGA2IKAjSGReOegcWhCIEqwODTCE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="83420863" Received: from 192-171-34-171.cpe.pppoe.ca (HELO pastel.home) ([192.171.34.171]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 09 Aug 2014 21:46:08 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id A9E3961782; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 21:46:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <20140809225337.GA5422@jidanni.org> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 21:46:07 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Sat, 09 Aug 2014 19:45:25 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > What you ask for is not possible. Of course, nothing's impossible. E.g. We could change Emacs to use dynamic loading of X libraries (a crap load of work for very little benefit). But another avenue would be to lobby the GNU/Linux people working on ld.so so that we can mark some libraries as "not indispensable", in which case their absence wouldn't cause an error: instead the symbols would be resolved such that using one of their functions signals an error. Stefan