From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 09 18:54:13 2014 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Aug 2014 22:54:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36812 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XGFWf-0000xS-B9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 18:54:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37435) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XGFWb-0000xD-Vu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 18:54:10 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XGFWP-0003cx-FP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 18:54:04 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:35340) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XGFWP-0003cs-Cm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 18:53:57 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39131) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XGFWJ-00053v-8w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 18:53:57 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XGFWA-0003b4-2l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 18:53:51 -0400 Received: from homie.mail.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.208]:42628 helo=homiemail-a99.g.dreamhost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XGFW9-0003av-Sj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 18:53:42 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a99.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a99.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25D6FB0078 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 15:53:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=date:from :to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=mcryPO7Q8TRBvwV86lyMVdBjKnQ=; b=jHCz1ngOpKm2LpUqFHWhgK8gZP0n GM5N+jaEceMABwj1+kiO6q+vm8L2AHjUnh/6eUpbdWW1TxWM3xKJbZTYyV9YDkuj 0e2hJS3XZGXn/AUCayxrE25QisuybeAZCAE+EIGXIuUWRogfpXc/YVTSPCPQHksm SY/hHzxDSMmSfto= Received: from jidanni.org (114-41-38-174.dynamic.hinet.net [114.41.38.174]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a99.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 90D73FB0077 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 15:53:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 06:53:37 +0800 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: emacs -nw still depends on libXcursor.so.1 Message-ID: <20140809225337.GA5422@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) $ emacs -nw -q emacs: error while loading shared libraries: libXcursor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory True, my system is broken today. However perhaps to increase resilliance, maybe if the user uses -nw, perhaps that X stuff can not be attempted to get pulled in. That way a single emacs binary, would also be useful, for those days when one is repairing their system. So no need to install a separate emacs-non-x package... when in fact the system might be in such bad shape to make installation impossible, etc. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 09 19:45:57 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Aug 2014 23:45:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36821 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XGGKj-0002Fk-40 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 19:45:57 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:45448 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XGGKg-0002Fb-AY for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 19:45:55 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XGGKg-0007xJ-2M for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 19:45:54 -0400 Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 19:45:54 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 18235 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) tag 18235 wontfix From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 09 19:45:40 2014 Received: (at 18235-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Aug 2014 23:45:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36818 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XGGKR-0002FA-Ed for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 19:45:40 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:45441 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XGGKO-0002Er-Dk for 18235-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 19:45:38 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XGGKD-0007eB-An; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 19:45:25 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 18235-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#18235: emacs -nw still depends on libXcursor.so.1 References: <20140809225337.GA5422@jidanni.org> X-Spook: Peking CID fundamentalist 9/11 SHA STARLAN bootleg rs9512c X-Ran: 4l,.}Sh8\2eE=zwuO+mb]5)'V28uP+ATcLv>E{"4;r|(Zu3m+IIW<>UswCPD](fh0rzH|T X-Hue: blue X-Attribution: GM Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 19:45:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20140809225337.GA5422@jidanni.org> (=?utf-8?B?IuepjeS4uQ==?= =?utf-8?B?5bC8?= Dan Jacobson"'s message of "Sun, 10 Aug 2014 06:53:37 +0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18235-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) What you ask for is not possible. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 09 21:46:18 2014 Received: (at 18235) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Aug 2014 01:46:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36895 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XGIDB-0006Wk-4I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 21:46:18 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:24517) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XGID9-0006WS-1v for 18235@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 21:46:15 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArYGAIDvNVPAqyKr/2dsb2JhbABZgwY7gw/APYEXF3SCJQEBAQECAVYjBQsLNBIUGA2IKAjSGReOegcWhCIEqwODTCE X-IPAS-Result: ArYGAIDvNVPAqyKr/2dsb2JhbABZgwY7gw/APYEXF3SCJQEBAQECAVYjBQsLNBIUGA2IKAjSGReOegcWhCIEqwODTCE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="83420863" Received: from 192-171-34-171.cpe.pppoe.ca (HELO pastel.home) ([192.171.34.171]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 09 Aug 2014 21:46:08 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id A9E3961782; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 21:46:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: 18235@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#18235: emacs -nw still depends on libXcursor.so.1 Message-ID: References: <20140809225337.GA5422@jidanni.org> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 21:46:07 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Sat, 09 Aug 2014 19:45:25 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 18235 Cc: rgm@gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > What you ask for is not possible. Of course, nothing's impossible. E.g. We could change Emacs to use dynamic loading of X libraries (a crap load of work for very little benefit). But another avenue would be to lobby the GNU/Linux people working on ld.so so that we can mark some libraries as "not indispensable", in which case their absence wouldn't cause an error: instead the symbols would be resolved such that using one of their functions signals an error. Stefan From unknown Fri Aug 15 17:23:31 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator