From unknown Wed Jun 18 00:29:28 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#18185 <18185@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#18185 <18185@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: environment variable LANGUAGE overrides LC_ALL Reply-To: bug#18185 <18185@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 07:29:28 +0000 retitle 18185 environment variable LANGUAGE overrides LC_ALL reassign 18185 grep submitter 18185 Benno Schulenberg severity 18185 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 03 15:36:52 2014 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Aug 2014 19:36:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56232 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XE1aO-0005rv-Hl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2014 15:36:52 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57403) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XE1aM-0005rf-IR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2014 15:36:51 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XE1aC-00023c-7r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2014 15:36:45 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:34183) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XE1aC-00023W-52 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2014 15:36:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57288) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XE1VB-0006g7-Ap for bug-grep@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2014 15:31:34 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XE1V5-0000Rf-68 for bug-grep@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2014 15:31:29 -0400 Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:43884) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XE1V5-0000RR-1X for bug-grep@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2014 15:31:23 -0400 Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by gateway1.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8029521CFA for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 15:31:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web5 ([10.202.2.215]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 03 Aug 2014 15:31:22 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=justemail.net; h= message-id:from:to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:subject:date; s=mesmtp; bh=2yctv8Yx6dpZEjZWdAe1WWo +NXw=; b=YeRJ2MPGzGgL/XzBvKdQ6E3kzGW+Dkj0d1Ek7ORvvV8Vnerl7vBD5S8 2LNWcaYIp1MSk8SMzxHYv5M2MRFfhf3M+Sm014pstYZ0aZwgWUnNpOhgPwGLLW1Z T7dKxX/ciTO3a5IA/yKYCudPyJzW1M1QQSjPaQbGKkzN8utNelSU= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:from:to:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:subject:date; s=smtpout; bh=2yctv8Yx6dpZEjZWdAe1WWo+NXw=; b=hIj1C5dDXiC1OmgFpP78amCxw0YC HvEYDs6yJVc8WUgzhO2MXVVQsFXtoY9WuptmP5eUXN3WrouJdCYkuIHH9/gVrl34 o1yqvRFQNK/+9JLqq6eRVTO92re6CdtL57sAtfKjnrFmlj6oIuGt7Skjg9JVSo0p Fk4EgUMc4DaNFtE= Received: by web5.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 4E2B9A70542; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 15:31:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1407094282.3047388.148658710.7FAE4118@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: DIycWfB01I/3xyu2zVLVnDIzBXFar7oWF5vNqyG2nQoL 1407094282 From: Benno Schulenberg To: bug-grep@gnu.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - html Subject: environment variable LANGUAGE overrides LC_ALL Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2014 21:31:22 +0200 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) Hi, In 'info grep inv env' it says that the variables `LC_ALL' `LC_MESSAGES' `LANG' determine the language that `grep' uses for messages. But this leaves the variable LANGUAGE unmentioned, which on my system overrides even LC_ALL. (Well, it overrides them when at least one of them is set; when all three of them are empty or unset, LANGUAGE has no effect.) So I think that the above group of three should become a group of four: `LANGUAGE' `LC_ALL' `LC_MESSAGES' `LANG' Also see 'info gettext.info "locale env"'. 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