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24.3.92; ls-lisp: Sorting; make ls-lisp-string-lessp a normal function?

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Message #257 received at 18051 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: rudalics <at> gmx.at, eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu, dmantipov <at> yandex.ru,
 18051 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#18051: [Emacs-diffs] trunk r117726: Add string collation.
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 22:31:49 +0300

> From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
> Cc: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>,  eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu,  dmantipov <at> yandex.ru,  18051 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 20:01:50 +0200
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > Case-insensitive versions of the new functions are yet to be written;
> > stay tuned.
> 
> I've just committed a patch to the trunk which adds optional arguments
> LOCALE and IGNORE-CASE to the collation functions.

Thanks.

> > For now, on MS-Windows, you can have that if you use the
> > NORM_IGNORECASE flag as the second argument of CompareStringW inside
> > w32_compare_strings.
> 
> As usual, this I haven't implemented. I would let it to you, Eli.

As usual, done.

I needed to introduce a w32-specific variable, which needs to be bound
to a non-nil value in order to have UTS#10 (a.k.a. "Unicode Collation
Algorithm", or "UCA") compliant collation order, which ignores
punctuation differences, on MS-Windows.  This is because Windows
doesn't support UTF-8 as a codeset in its locales (and Windows locales
have different names anyway).  This means that if a Lisp program needs
to make sure it gets a UCA-compliant collation order on all platforms,
it will have to pass a "xx_YY.UTF-8" locale on Posix platforms, and on
Windows bind that w32-specific variable to a non-nil value.

Btw, I think we will need a lot of verbiage in the ELisp manual to
make sure people understand what to expect from these functions.  In
particular, the results are extremely locale- and platform-specific,
so one cannot expect exactly the same results in all cases, only
something similar.

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