From unknown Sat Aug 16 14:25:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17959: eww: FTP is not supported; but with ftp_proxy, it is Resent-From: Ivan Shmakov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2014 19:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 17959 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 17959@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.14046741614120 (code B ref -1); Sun, 06 Jul 2014 19:16:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2014 19:16:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45190 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1X3ruq-00014N-Bd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jul 2014 15:16:00 -0400 Received: from fely.am-1.org ([78.47.74.50]:46241) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1X3ruk-00014C-Mt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; 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but with ftp_proxy, it is Resent-From: Ted Zlatanov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 16:41:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17959 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Ivan Shmakov Cc: 17959@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 17959-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17959.141511923410050 (code B ref 17959); Tue, 04 Nov 2014 16:41:01 +0000 Received: (at 17959) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Nov 2014 16:40:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49007 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xlh9l-0002c2-N6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 11:40:34 -0500 Received: from mail-qa0-f42.google.com ([209.85.216.42]:45047) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xlh9i-0002bt-L7 for 17959@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 11:40:31 -0500 Received: by mail-qa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id k15so8565700qaq.29 for <17959@debbugs.gnu.org>; 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[98.229.61.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 4sm750465qax.48.2014.11.04.08.40.26 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 04 Nov 2014 08:40:26 -0800 (PST) From: Ted Zlatanov Organization: =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=A2=D0=B5=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=BE=D1=80_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=97=D0=BB=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2?= @ Cienfuegos References: <87mwcmb8nx.fsf@violet.siamics.net> X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 11:40:41 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87mwcmb8nx.fsf@violet.siamics.net> (Ivan Shmakov's message of "Sun, 06 Jul 2014 19:15:46 +0000") Message-ID: <87egti7wc6.fsf@lifelogs.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 19:15:46 +0000 Ivan Shmakov wrote: IS> Package: emacs IS> Severity: wishlist IS> As of 36634f669f2c, eww unconditionally disallows browsing ftp: IS> scheme URIs. Arguably, it should only do so when no proxy IS> setting is in effect for the URI in question. IS> For instance, with ("ftp" . "MYPROXY:PORT") in IS> url-proxy-services (and user-error commented out in eww.el) IS> M-x eww shows FTP sites perfectly fine. Consider, e. g.: IS> M-x eww RET ftp://ladsftp.nascom.nasa.gov/ IS> You are user #109 of 800 simultaneous users allowed. What would be the upside of simply allowing browsing ftp: scheme? If it only works with the proxy services you note, it seems like a pretty rare use case. Ted From unknown Sat Aug 16 14:25:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17959: eww: FTP is not supported; but with ftp_proxy, it is Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 21:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17959 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Ivan Shmakov Cc: 17959@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 17959-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17959.14156544608296 (code B ref 17959); Mon, 10 Nov 2014 21:21:02 +0000 Received: (at 17959) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Nov 2014 21:21:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56362 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XnwOS-00029j-IS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:21:00 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:37912) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XnwOR-00029b-A1 for 17959@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:20:59 -0500 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1XnwO8-0001Z6-2w; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:20:40 +0100 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen References: <87mwcmb8nx.fsf@violet.siamics.net> X-Now-Playing: The Cure's _Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me_ X-Hashcash: 1:23:141110:ivan@siamics.net::UCOCehPR9v72/ol0:0IXfs X-Hashcash: 1:23:141110:17959@debbugs.gnu.org::1Ek602hDfYNc+Fpa:0000000000000000000000000000000000000001+ZxF Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:20:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87mwcmb8nx.fsf@violet.siamics.net> (Ivan Shmakov's message of "Sun, 06 Jul 2014 19:15:46 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1XnwO8-0001Z6-2w X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1416259241.37083@iNjcXocRrEQ543VpkJqh9w X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Ivan Shmakov writes: > Package: emacs > Severity: wishlist > > As of 36634f669f2c, eww unconditionally disallows browsing ftp: > scheme URIs. Arguably, it should only do so when no proxy > setting is in effect for the URI in question. > > For instance, with ("ftp" . "MYPROXY:PORT") in > url-proxy-services (and user-error commented out in eww.el) > M-x eww shows FTP sites perfectly fine. Consider, e. g.: > > M-x eww RET ftp://ladsftp.nascom.nasa.gov/ Is there any point in using eww for ftp? It seems like a duplication of functionality. The Emacs ftp browser is fine, I think. So I'm closing this. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 10 16:21:05 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Nov 2014 21:21:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56366 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XnwOW-0002Ag-TV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:21:05 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:37918) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XnwOU-0002AH-L8 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:21:02 -0500 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1XnwOD-0001ZF-8o for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:20:45 +0100 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:20:44 +0100 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #17959 X-MailScanner-ID: 1XnwOD-0001ZF-8o X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1416259245.33544@c3UToI4K94djtv3kzVxnNQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) tags 17959 wontfix close 17959 From unknown Sat Aug 16 14:25:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17959: eww: FTP is not supported; but with ftp_proxy, it is Resent-From: Ivan Shmakov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 08:06:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17959 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: 17959@debbugs.gnu.org, control@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 17959-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17959.14163843114696 (code B ref 17959); Wed, 19 Nov 2014 08:06:01 +0000 Received: (at 17959) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2014 08:05:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37777 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xr0GB-0001DY-Fz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 03:05:11 -0500 Received: from fely.am-1.org ([78.47.74.50]:41350) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xr0G2-0001Ct-30; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 03:05:01 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=siamics.net; s=a2013295; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:Sender:References:Subject:To:From; bh=1rfuJa0HRY4GYY35oqJSrqD29HeaLzrO1KcYBV0C0ck=; b=hUGrSDFbbbE6epH4VzjfyAU6KbECc5h7yoqzj4nBBy2Swi+qCzNmSjAETD3/TbWEAcnttrNECqj0uUqoO7wHC/4Il6CV2I8sEozP5/ABRpUaR4fo+b0BAIkcPj69dE9Y1UyjNMBIYGQnbp70r3mF7TAaimqanwKoYB42iR77f/c=; Received: from [2a02:2560:6d4:26ca::1:1d] (helo=violet.siamics.net) by fely.am-1.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xr0G1-0001vz-5N; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 08:04:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=violet.siamics.net) by violet.siamics.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xr0Ft-0005Ks-Sf; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 15:04:49 +0700 From: Ivan Shmakov References: <87mwcmb8nx.fsf@violet.siamics.net> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 08:04:49 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:20:39 +0100") Message-ID: <87r3wz7h0e.fsf@violet.siamics.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) reopen 17959 thanks >>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: >>>>> Ivan Shmakov writes: >> Package: emacs Severity: wishlist >> As of 36634f669f2c, eww unconditionally disallows browsing ftp: >> scheme URIs. Arguably, it should only do so when no proxy setting >> is in effect for the URI in question. >> For instance, with ("ftp" . "MYPROXY:PORT") in url-proxy-services >> (and user-error commented out in eww.el) M-x eww shows FTP sites >> perfectly fine. Consider, e. g.: >> M-x eww RET ftp://ladsftp.nascom.nasa.gov/ > Is there any point in using eww for ftp? It seems like a duplication > of functionality. The Emacs ftp browser is fine, I think. =E2=80=A6 Except that it doesn=E2=80=99t support using an HTTP proxy to ac= cess FTP servers, either, and I=E2=80=99ve seen networks where it=E2=80=99s the= only option. (Due to firewall settings, NAT, etc.) Given that the only thing that EWW has to do to support ftp_proxy is to ensure the user configuration specifies an HTTP proxy to use for the target ftp: URI, it just seems like to simple a feature to omit it. When no HTTP proxy is specified for the URI, EWW should indeed somehow invoke the Emacs native FTP client instead. I guess the same approach may be applied to the other URI schemes just as well (gopher:, perhaps?) > So I'm closing this. I have no objections to classifying this as =E2=80=98wontfix=E2=80=99, but= I=E2=80=99d rather keep this opened for the issue to remain visible to the community. (FWIW, http://debbugs.gnu.org/ hides closed issues by default.) --=20 FSF associate member #7257 http://boycottsystemd.org/ =E2=80=A6 3013 B6A0= 230E 334A From unknown Sat Aug 16 14:25:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17959: eww: FTP is not supported; but with ftp_proxy, it is Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 17:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17959 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Ivan Shmakov Cc: 17959@debbugs.gnu.org, control@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 17959-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17959.14164178969217 (code B ref 17959); Wed, 19 Nov 2014 17:25:02 +0000 Received: (at 17959) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2014 17:24:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38522 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xr8zv-0002OV-Vf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 12:24:56 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:55421) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xr8zt-0002OG-Qf; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 12:24:54 -0500 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Xr8zc-0002bs-Ar; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:24:36 +0100 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen References: <87mwcmb8nx.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <87r3wz7h0e.fsf@violet.siamics.net> X-Now-Playing: Mapstation's _Distance Told Me Things To Be Said_: "The Way Things Change" X-Hashcash: 1:23:141119:17959@debbugs.gnu.org::oC/nY6Jwf9pNaf21:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000Ie4t X-Hashcash: 1:23:141119:ivan@siamics.net::DfH6KaCb+SUn+Hvw:0f2Ii X-Hashcash: 1:23:141119:control@debbugs.gnu.org::wWwCfag4qpKkwBRO:000000000000000000000000000000000000020KkJ Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:24:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87r3wz7h0e.fsf@violet.siamics.net> (Ivan Shmakov's message of "Wed, 19 Nov 2014 08:04:49 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MailScanner-ID: 1Xr8zc-0002bs-Ar X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1417022676.52766@DaxLxMCFEer06TNKvYThfA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Ivan Shmakov writes: > > So I'm closing this. > > I have no objections to classifying this as =91wontfix=92, but I=92d > rather keep this opened for the issue to remain visible to the > community. (FWIW, http://debbugs.gnu.org/ hides closed issues > by default.) That's the point of closing bugs reports -- so that other maintainers don't have to bother with them. Closing again. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 19 12:25:03 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2014 17:25:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38525 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xr902-0002P2-9i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 12:25:02 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:55427) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xr8zw-0002Oi-Uq for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 12:24:57 -0500 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Xr8zf-0002bz-PO for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:24:39 +0100 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:24:39 +0100 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #17959 X-MailScanner-ID: 1Xr8zf-0002bz-PO X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1417022679.92393@8bLutnwE9Uj9Kge8paFiCA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) close 17959 From unknown Sat Aug 16 14:25:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17959: support accessing FTP services via HTTP proxies Resent-From: Ivan Shmakov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 20:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17959 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: 17959@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 17959-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17959.141876057819967 (code B ref 17959); Tue, 16 Dec 2014 20:10:02 +0000 Received: (at 17959) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Dec 2014 20:09:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48168 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0yR8-0005Bz-3H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 15:09:38 -0500 Received: from fely.am-1.org ([78.47.74.50]:44987) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0yR4-0005Bo-U8 for 17959@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 15:09:36 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=siamics.net; s=a2013295; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:Sender:References:Subject:To:From; bh=KdPfLTh0+J26Rkqq/oZKXTvKpR9o5XiluLZA6i8taio=; b=GWB3op/8gfBbs8GkRcMVAjpIDsijSzZuxJIciuhkVjUWknllp5fxf54PZ1C58kzXhjajS4YDrnmTL376LXHLLf3WDf08VemIdIYQXL7/MQaq6vKxuCz92hFNzMWtlPN7JliUqQaF4SCY6FEwSkal1/ow/FQj4NdsQuPskCrAesw=; Received: from [2a02:2560:6d4:26ca::1:1d] (helo=violet.siamics.net) by fely.am-1.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0yR2-0007Ad-G4 for 17959@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 20:09:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=violet.siamics.net) by violet.siamics.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0yQv-0008Lo-AE for 17959@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 03:09:25 +0700 From: Ivan Shmakov References: <87mwcmb8nx.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <87r3wz7h0e.fsf@violet.siamics.net> Mail-Followup-To: 17959@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 20:09:24 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87r3wz7h0e.fsf@violet.siamics.net> (Ivan Shmakov's message of "Wed, 19 Nov 2014 08:04:49 +0000") Message-ID: <877fxricgb.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> Ivan Shmakov writes: [=E2=80=A6] > Given that the only thing that EWW has to do to support ftp_proxy is > to ensure the user configuration specifies an HTTP proxy to use for > the target ftp: URI, it just seems like to simple a feature to omit > it. The patch MIMEd seems to resolve the issue. > When no HTTP proxy is specified for the URI, EWW should indeed > somehow invoke the Emacs native FTP client instead. > I guess the same approach may be applied to the other URI schemes > just as well (gopher:, perhaps?) FTR, =E2=80=93 I=E2=80=99ve tried to access [1] via Squid, and it just wor= ked. [1] gopher://gopher.docfile.org/1/world/monitoring/uptime [=E2=80=A6] --=20 FSF associate member #7257 http://boycottsystemd.org/ =E2=80=A6 3013 B6A0= 230E 334A --=-=-= Content-Type: text/diff Content-Disposition: inline --- a/lisp/net/eww.el 2014-12-09 03:21:57 +0000 +++ b/lisp/net/eww.el 2014-12-16 19:59:32 +0000 @@ -252,8 +238,15 @@ (setq url (string-trim url)) (cond ((string-match-p "\\`file:/" url)) ;; Don't mangle file: URLs at all. - ((string-match-p "\\`ftp://" url) - (user-error "FTP is not supported.")) + ((let* ((parsed (url-generic-parse-url url)) + (loader (url-scheme-get-property (url-type parsed) 'loader)) + (proxy (and (url-host parsed) + (url-find-proxy-for-url + parsed (url-host parsed))))) + (and (eq 'url-ftp loader) + (or (not proxy) + (not (string-match-p "^https?://" proxy))))) + (user-error "Direct FTP is not supported.")) (t (if (and (= (length (split-string url)) 1) (or (and (not (string-match-p "\\`[\"\'].*[\"\']\\'" url)) --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 16 18:10:16 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Dec 2014 23:10:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48219 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y11Fw-0002cc-7B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 18:10:16 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:60674) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y11Ft-0002cT-PQ for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 18:10:14 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj0PAOwQflTO+ILA/2dsb2JhbABbgwdSgw6FWsUdBAICgSQXAQEBAQEBfIQDAQEEVjMLNBIUGA2Id9ZZAQEIAgEfkANzFoQyBYsBpC6BeIQZIYE9gToBAQE X-IPAS-Result: Aj0PAOwQflTO+ILA/2dsb2JhbABbgwdSgw6FWsUdBAICgSQXAQEBAQEBfIQDAQEEVjMLNBIUGA2Id9ZZAQEIAgEfkANzFoQyBYsBpC6BeIQZIYE9gToBAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.07,502,1413259200"; d="scan'208";a="102726966" Received: from 206-248-130-192.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.130.192]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 16 Dec 2014 18:10:12 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id B238812E5; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 18:10:12 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#17959: support accessing FTP services via HTTP proxies Message-ID: References: <87mwcmb8nx.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <87r3wz7h0e.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <877fxricgb.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 18:10:12 -0500 In-Reply-To: <877fxricgb.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> (Ivan Shmakov's message of "Tue, 16 Dec 2014 20:09:24 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) tags 17959 patch thanks From unknown Sat Aug 16 14:25:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17959: support accessing FTP services via HTTP proxies Resent-From: Ivan Shmakov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 21:41:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17959 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch wontfix To: 17959@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 17959-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17959.142109883331495 (code B ref 17959); Mon, 12 Jan 2015 21:41:03 +0000 Received: (at 17959) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jan 2015 21:40:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54783 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YAmiu-0008Bt-LB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2015 16:40:33 -0500 Received: from fely.am-1.org ([78.47.74.50]:49084) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YAmio-0008Bf-2H for 17959@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2015 16:40:27 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=siamics.net; s=a2013295; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:Sender:References:Subject:To:From; bh=HiqXl/Fb95ONNVLb2idRen0CoTExFLp/Gabiqafz6PI=; b=Hdf3B59EC3FJI21msOF+HjmulobjKMKJQsM4iTEJ0kLGY1FIBERvKtNb5U4f3G5Cj4dw1fYWod5KVmhJNK3zYKtQYI1YxoPbM0dVmJMqaJqv5Z2hoJW+u8vW7shdWwtquK7tE8dM7j/ZEOoOWPC8DiArVSRA97QTJ4F7m+nOg4M=; Received: from [2a02:2560:6d4:26ca::1:1d] (helo=violet.siamics.net) by fely.am-1.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YAmii-000579-KK for 17959@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2015 21:40:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=violet.siamics.net) by violet.siamics.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YAmib-00019h-BK for 17959@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 04:40:13 +0700 From: Ivan Shmakov References: <87mwcmb8nx.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <87r3wz7h0e.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <877fxricgb.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> Mail-Followup-To: 17959@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 21:40:12 +0000 In-Reply-To: <877fxricgb.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> (Ivan Shmakov's message of "Tue, 16 Dec 2014 20:09:24 +0000") Message-ID: <87fvbfy8xv.fsf@violet.siamics.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) Alternatively, one may question of why the guard was necessary in the code in the first place? Scanning through the url*.el code, I=E2=80=99ve found that there=E2=80=99re certain differences in handling URIs. Namely, while some URI scheme handlers (like http:) retrieve a document when a URI is referenced, others (like irc:) instead call some =E2=80=9Cthird-party=E2= =80=9D code, and there=E2=80=99s also a group (news:, file:, ftp:) of handlers which follow either of these ways depending on specific conditions. And in the case of FTP, =E2=80=93 the condition upon which no document is retrieved is: the URI in question refers to a directory. The differences are due to the fact that while some URIs (say, news:877fxricgb.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net or http://example.com/) refer to certain /documents,/ there=E2=80=99re also URIs which are unlikely to ever denote anything like that (think of, say, geo:20,15.) Thus, my suggestion would be to: =E2=80=A2 allow the caller of the url*.el facilities to explicitly state whether it=E2=80=99s interested in a document to be returned, in some code to be called, or either; =E2=80=A2 in the =E2=80=98url-file=E2=80=99 function, =E2=80=93 return a d= ocument of some form (possibly the unprocessed output of the respective FTP command) when given a URI which refers to a directory, =E2=80=93 if so is the preference of the caller; =E2=80=A2 (not directly related to this bug) adjust =E2=80=98url-news=E2= =80=99 (and possibly others) behavior similarly, perhaps going as far as allowing the caller to specify its preferences regarding the representation for such a document, =E2=80=93 in the spirit of the HTTP Accept: header. I guess all of the above warrant separate bug reports, which I hope to file shortly. --=20 FSF associate member #7257 http://boycottsystemd.org/ =E2=80=A6 3013 B6A0= 230E 334A From unknown Sat Aug 16 14:25:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17959: support accessing FTP services via HTTP proxies Resent-From: Ivan Shmakov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17959 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch wontfix To: 17959@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 17959-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17959.14235014803229 (code B ref 17959); Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:05:02 +0000 Received: (at 17959) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2015 17:04:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38481 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YKrlI-0000q0-2q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 12:04:40 -0500 Received: from fely.am-1.org ([78.47.74.50]:43043) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YKrlC-0000pm-O2 for 17959@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 12:04:38 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=siamics.net; s=a2013295; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:Sender:References:Subject:To:From; bh=xJhxMDjJOk/ow7FMt8Pz4hcYFQcDcGOixIh1gm3i+8U=; b=BbIH2AXfZIg7BfhgKwu/9AaqKDH8ByUyNvVseBM09EMRC9iUK61L97Kjb8kyG6gimp2uc6LghtUYYC44VxKMyvQAKFonum0mKYReEQOkX8kFotoVIC5jrBvRrmlZ6vzqX4vSteXT6NCWTqIdR2ka+H9+AumBwoYqZs6wnnBI+3o=; Received: from [2a02:2560:6d4:26ca::1:1d] (helo=violet.siamics.net) by fely.am-1.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YKrlB-0001Mj-RM for 17959@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:04:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=violet.siamics.net) by violet.siamics.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YKrl4-0003jJ-W3 for 17959@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 00:04:27 +0700 From: Ivan Shmakov References: <87mwcmb8nx.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <87r3wz7h0e.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <877fxricgb.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> <87fvbfy8xv.fsf@violet.siamics.net> Mail-Followup-To: 17959@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:04:26 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87fvbfy8xv.fsf@violet.siamics.net> (Ivan Shmakov's message of "Mon, 12 Jan 2015 21:40:12 +0000") Message-ID: <87iofbdnj9.fsf@violet.siamics.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) >>>>> Ivan Shmakov writes: [=E2=80=A6] > Thus, my suggestion would be to: > =E2=80=A2 allow the caller of the url*.el facilities to explicitly state > whether it=E2=80=99s interested in a document to be returned, in some co= de to > be called, or either; [=E2=80=A6] > I guess all of the above warrant separate bug reports, which I > hope to file shortly. Filed #19822 for the first point. Once it=E2=80=99s decided how to fix that (and if), changes for url-file, url-irc, url-news, etc., wouldn=E2=80=99t be all that a big deal. --=20 FSF associate member #7257 http://boycottsystemd.org/ =E2=80=A6 3013 B6A0= 230E 334A