From unknown Sun Jun 22 17:10:49 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#17888 <17888@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#17888 <17888@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.4.50; key binding not shown in menu item for alias command Reply-To: bug#17888 <17888@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 00:10:49 +0000 retitle 17888 24.4.50; key binding not shown in menu item for alias command reassign 17888 emacs submitter 17888 Drew Adams severity 17888 minor tag 17888 notabug thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 30 18:34:46 2014 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jun 2014 22:34:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38304 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1X1k9u-0005af-37 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 18:34:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58848) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1X1k9s-0005aQ-6I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 18:34:44 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X1k9c-0001QQ-Jg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 18:34:38 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:43155) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X1k9c-0001QK-DO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 18:34:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60427) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X1k9T-000816-Fs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 18:34:28 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X1k9I-0001Cv-0y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 18:34:19 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:20848) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X1k9H-0001C4-Qe for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 18:34:07 -0400 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s5UMY5bh026824 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 22:34:05 GMT Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s5UMY4Tx029099 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 22:34:05 GMT Received: from abhmp0012.oracle.com (abhmp0012.oracle.com [141.146.116.18]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s5UMY3q0012273 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 22:34:03 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <45a7ca34-b299-495d-9c0b-05316bb59756@default> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 15:34:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.4.50; key binding not shown in menu item for alias command X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) emacs -Q (defun foo () (interactive)(message "Foo")) (global-set-key "\C-o" 'foo) (defalias 'bar 'foo) (define-key menu-bar-edit-menu [bar] '(menu-item "Do It" bar)) In the Edit menu, the key `C-o' is not shown next to item `Do It'. Also: (defun toto () (interactive)(message "Toto")) (define-key menu-bar-edit-menu [toto] '(menu-item "To It" toto)) (defalias 'titi 'toto) (global-set-key "\C-n" 'titi) The binding `C-n' is not shown next to menu item `To It'. Seems like a command alias should be treated like the aliased command when it comes to showing key bindings in menus. That would help users. In GNU Emacs 24.4.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2014-06-28 on ODIEONE Bzr revision: 117431 rgm@gnu.org-20140628015517-eku6hj8mpgcvfnso Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --prefix=3D/c/Devel/emacs/snapshot/trunk --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs 'CFLAGS=3D-O0 -g3' LDFLAGS=3D-Lc:/Devel/emacs/lib 'CPPFLAGS=3D-DGC_MCHECK=3D1 -Ic:/Devel/emacs/include'' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 19 21:06:18 2021 Received: (at 17888) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2021 02:06:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52226 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l22t0-0008Sv-GN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2021 21:06:18 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:38256) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l22sz-0008Sh-Ej for 17888@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jan 2021 21:06:17 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ywbNV3Jx3CM58NsgHbtLHtzG5Z5uPo9zUHBSNSgfbNU=; b=i0yEZnmls5eI9o5I7LBux/XhoD ge630zA4LuW2hxvw8aQqZJKmq7wqWORP6Xw1Jf/HXJ1kHedLR5rZNnKW8i1KB2CvpztCLFXFIU8G8 ghq1mH/0zfEkAfnainbpuoM7noavb6akHHh2d5XyRUnVUkIuT/qLUnAFIGhu6EolIwkk=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l22sq-0007mL-Te; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 03:06:11 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: bug#17888: 24.4.50; key binding not shown in menu item for alias command References: <45a7ca34-b299-495d-9c0b-05316bb59756@default> X-Now-Playing: Hannah Jones's _The Remixes (CD3)_: "Too Much To Remember (Ian Anthony Stephens Mix)" Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 03:06:07 +0100 In-Reply-To: <45a7ca34-b299-495d-9c0b-05316bb59756@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 30 Jun 2014 15:34:03 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <87bldk746o.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Drew Adams writes: > (defun foo () (interactive)(message "Foo")) > (global-set-key "\C-o" 'foo) > > (defalias 'bar 'foo) > (define-key menu-bar-edit-menu [bar] '(menu-item "Do It" bar)) > > In the Edit menu, the key `C- [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17888 Cc: 17888@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Drew Adams writes: > (defun foo () (interactive)(message "Foo")) > (global-set-key "\C-o" 'foo) > > (defalias 'bar 'foo) > (define-key menu-bar-edit-menu [bar] '(menu-item "Do It" bar)) > > In the Edit menu, the key `C-o' is not shown next to item `Do It'. Is it supposed to? I'm not sure whether that would be surprising or not. Does anybody have an opinion? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 20 10:10:45 2021 Received: (at 17888) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2021 15:10:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55912 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l2F89-0007gc-Hu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 10:10:45 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48594) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l2F87-0007gO-Mr for 17888@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 10:10:44 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51612) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l2F82-00052B-CM; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 10:10:38 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4487 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1l2F81-0006AK-Mf; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 10:10:38 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 17:10:49 +0200 Message-Id: <83o8hj7ifa.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <87bldk746o.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Wed, 20 Jan 2021 03:06:07 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#17888: 24.4.50; key binding not shown in menu item for alias command References: <45a7ca34-b299-495d-9c0b-05316bb59756@default> <87bldk746o.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17888 Cc: 17888@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 03:06:07 +0100 > Cc: 17888@debbugs.gnu.org > > Drew Adams writes: > > > (defun foo () (interactive)(message "Foo")) > > (global-set-key "\C-o" 'foo) > > > > (defalias 'bar 'foo) > > (define-key menu-bar-edit-menu [bar] '(menu-item "Do It" bar)) > > > > In the Edit menu, the key `C-o' is not shown next to item `Do It'. > > Is it supposed to? I'm not sure whether that would be surprising or > not. Does anybody have an opinion? Indeed, it isn't clear at all that the expectations in this case are correct. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 27 01:50:06 2021 Received: (at 17888) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2021 06:50:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43519 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l4eeU-0000YE-EB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 01:50:06 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:37520) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l4eeQ-0000Xa-R2 for 17888@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 01:50:04 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=SO3w0oBDiCG4hRH5O5aVKq6q5H9R2IdVO000th+cEsk=; b=u7VlVSlXSTMt3gxPnFk3MywlT1 mxH14xNZVvNpmbTfxe+yGEgzmZ3QEn7zRUVda9vKjekQJxGMx9z7v0onRRWE6X/zNL2bI1ZCLt3iS 9lrpaBM9f3EgHIsjkzjWuFFGpty8wy/s2s5WOCqVFzRHG9TIby6IuBeZ3wFT4kIsgiBY=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l4eeI-0003EZ-6t; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 07:49:56 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#17888: 24.4.50; key binding not shown in menu item for alias command References: <45a7ca34-b299-495d-9c0b-05316bb59756@default> <87bldk746o.fsf@gnus.org> <83o8hj7ifa.fsf@gnu.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAElBMVEX39/fW4+PT09Ov vb5lmZz///8YrOx3AAAAAWJLR0QF+G/pxwAAAAd0SU1FB+UBGwYVE4ejAscAAAGySURBVDjLlVPR dcMwCATcAQB5AEALxHIHaPdfqiA7rdM2H9F7iS0dOo4DA7y8sD8D/BnAzwB7lYriJ2b+36n/qOLz h8IVi8cWgdwPgCLmC5+Aqj5mlTNFoITLRZwOPrSIuN8FMSdwIBqKGv2nalLR2wQYZ9q7ehKhikuW kwoPTzQQMxBDxS1KFzGVk0Es0Y20ewqescT16CJIGhKpVaJOBLmVfKIChouLtplbCFNOR2aOYamI cIpiQt7zhuXy5MBuPj0RBKEbuElWUFkxZtIylnBAqCLiIed0KvccHlFPvQyA5N5iH5HJhS4ApoXc eoSxoObBunjbUicbgyxB4RmSJsDyNtbtAyDTZW07tACWurEsoxWQGrOSnIjOCJfOZY9JzBPAgTJd FROz6nEmh5ohsjmub/vnXlRZp6Ats63TigS2A0h/fXnQX0MAexWIdK+2znGO2OJ5zifwvra1jXVI UsEAOQrItRUQrXkBi8I3VTaHyFNMTRJueYX++0I0wP8F0JnxpJJHV0LsCNn3GL3HCDvlXzuX3ox2 +8Uq5XZyPwbWxyXqNb3Bv27UUM85NXh9fQFpyCqRC+fw3gAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAy MS0wMS0yN1QwNjoyMToxOCswMDowMA2dqQMAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjEtMDEtMjdU MDY6MjE6MTgrMDA6MDB8wBG/AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Suicide's _Third Noise Principle (Formative North American Electronica 1975-1984) (1)_: "Rocket USA" Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 07:49:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83o8hj7ifa.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 20 Jan 2021 17:10:49 +0200") Message-ID: <87a6su98mn.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Indeed, it isn't clear at all that the expectations in this case are > correct. So I'm closing this bug report. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: oracle.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: SA2PR10MB4474.namprd10.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 3f33b348-c3e6-4a63-c1cd-08d8c2e11117 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 27 Jan 2021 16:31:58.2587 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 4e2c6054-71cb-48f1-bd6c-3a9705aca71b X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: pF5ka3J+rQKqrjBo06bI0uOGhFoO7tt5m9Mp53ksTXYktKE+VFj64tDu3RzRxMn/0tPWTDXbLOGGWMk2XkA63Q== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: SA2PR10MB4569 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6200 definitions=9877 signatures=668683 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlxscore=0 spamscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2101270086 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6200 definitions=9877 signatures=668683 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 malwarescore=0 adultscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 clxscore=1011 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 priorityscore=1501 mlxscore=0 suspectscore=0 impostorscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2101270086 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17888 Cc: "17888@debbugs.gnu.org" <17888@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > > Indeed, it isn't clear at all that the expectations > > in this case are correct. To this user, at least, it's clearer that users will expect the alias's key indication than that they will expect no key indication. More importantly, showing the key is more helpful to users than not showing it. The key has the same effect, for users, as using the menu item. Consider also: (defun foo () (interactive) (message "FOO")) (global-set-key "\C-o" 'foo) (defalias 'bar 'foo) C-h w bar bar is not on any key; its alias foo is on C-o That's nice, complete info. Both pieces of that info are appropriate for such a Help command. Presumably we tell users about the alias binding to let them know that you can use `C-o' to, in effect, invoke `bar'. That's the info that's missing, for a menu item.=20 > So I'm closing this bug report. From unknown Sun Jun 22 17:10:49 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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