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23.0.60; proced with variable-pitch header line

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Message #102 received at 1779 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>, Juri Linkov <juri <at> linkov.net>
Cc: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman <at> gmx.net>,
 Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>,
 "1779 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <1779 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>,
 Roland Winkler <winkler <at> gnu.org>
Subject: RE: [External] : bug#1779: 23.0.60; proced with variable-pitch header
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2021 18:51:05 +0000

> I had in mind a bigger change than that.  😀  tabulated-list-mode is
> nice, but there's things about it that makes it less suited to some work
> flows, so I'd like to make a new package for this.
> 
> The main problem is that it wants to own the buffer, and you can only
> have the table in it, and nothing else.

Yes, I've said that many times.  Glad it's finally
sunk in.  That's a sufficient reason that it should
not have been used in things like the bookmark list.
(Even adding it to buffer-menu was a mistake.)

> The other issue is that the
> interface functions are a bit obscure -- you set/manipulate a bunch of
> buffer-local variables, and then call some functions.

A more important weakness of t-l-mode is that it
doesn't support arbitrary sort functions - it
doesn't make it easy to sort other than by an
individual column.  

> I'd like to have a table that's an "object", with well-defined interface
> functions, and which allows you to have many tables in the same buffer,
> and mix with other text, too.
> 
> And with proportional fonts.  😀

To me, t-l-mode is too limited for most real,
useful uses of "tabular" data.  It should never
have been imposed on the bookmark list (I don't
use it in Bookmark+).  And it's useless for
things like Dired (thank goodness).  Maybe the
same for Ibuffer; dunno.

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