From unknown Fri Jun 20 18:17:48 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#17740 <17740@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#17740 <17740@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: info.texi patch for standalone Info Reply-To: bug#17740 <17740@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 01:17:48 +0000 retitle 17740 info.texi patch for standalone Info reassign 17740 emacs submitter 17740 karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry) severity 17740 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jun 08 14:50:24 2014 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jun 2014 18:50:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41584 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WtiAh-0008KY-QG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2014 14:50:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44083) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WtiAg-0008KF-0K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2014 14:50:22 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtiAV-00016S-Fx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2014 14:50:16 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:56872) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtiAV-00016O-E6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2014 14:50:11 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45793) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtiAP-0007bm-W4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2014 14:50:11 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtiAK-0000n1-Gp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2014 14:50:05 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37408) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtiAK-0000mx-Cd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2014 14:50:00 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41712) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtiAK-0006z9-2D for bug-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2014 14:50:00 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtiAF-0000mX-61 for bug-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2014 14:49:59 -0400 Received: from frenzy.freefriends.org ([66.54.153.139]:37953 helo=freefriends.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WtiAF-0000mS-0y for bug-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2014 14:49:55 -0400 X-Envelope-From: karl@freefriends.org X-Envelope-To: Received: from freefriends.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefriends.org (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s58InrQx007580 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2014 12:49:54 -0600 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.14.8/8.14.8/submit) id s58Inr97007579; Sun, 8 Jun 2014 18:49:53 GMT Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 18:49:53 GMT Message-Id: <201406081849.s58Inr97007579@freefriends.org> X-Authentication-Warning: frenzy.freefriends.org: nobody set sender to karl@freefriends.org using -f From: karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry) To: bug-emacs@gnu.org Subject: info.texi patch for standalone Info X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Hope the patch below is ok for you. Just eliminates some weird bits about the standalone Info that haven't been necessary for umpteen years. This is against the trunk info.texi. By the way, grepping for "modeline" and "mode-line" through all the manuals in Emacs turns up a few other instances that presumably should be changed to "mode line" for consistency. (Not identifiers, obviously.) Thanks, Karl 2014-06-08 Karl Berry * doc/info.texi (Help-^L): "mode line", "screenful", stand-alone and Emacs Info both use the mode line. Use x instead of weird C-x 0 to get rid of help msg in standalone Info. --- ORIG/info.texi +++ info.texi @@ -151,12 +151,11 @@ screen, it is necessary to give you special advice at the beginning. If the entire text you are looking at fits on the screen, the text -@samp{All} will be displayed at the bottom of the screen. In the -stand-alone Info reader, it is displayed at the bottom right corner of -the screen; in Emacs, it is displayed on the modeline. If you see the -text @samp{Top} instead, it means that there is more text below that -does not fit. To move forward through the text and see another screen -full, press @key{SPC}, the Space bar. To move back up, press the key +@samp{All} will be displayed near the bottom of the screen, on the +mode line (usually, the line in inverse video). If you see the text +@samp{Top} instead, it means that there is more text below that does +not fit. To move forward through the text and see another screenful, +press @key{SPC}, the Space bar. To move back up, press the key labeled @samp{Backspace} or @samp{DEL} (on some keyboards, this key might be labeled @samp{Delete}), or @key{S-SPC}. @@ -401,13 +400,10 @@ >> Type a @key{?} now. Press @key{SPC} to see consecutive screenfuls of the list until finished. Then type @key{SPC} several times. If you are using Emacs, the help will then go away automatically. + If you are using the stand-alone Info reader, type @kbd{x} to + return here. @end format - (If you are using the stand-alone Info reader, type @kbd{C-x 0} to -return here, that is---press and hold @key{CTRL}, type an @kbd{x}, -then release @key{CTRL} and @kbd{x}, and press @kbd{0}; that's a zero, -not the letter ``o''.) - From now on, you will encounter large nodes without warning, and will be expected to know how to use @key{SPC} and @key{BACKSPACE} to move around in them without being told. Since not all terminals have From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jun 08 15:33:10 2014 Received: (at 17740) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jun 2014 19:33:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41612 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wtiq6-0001Jx-4G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2014 15:33:10 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:44767) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wtiq3-0001JR-KL for 17740@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2014 15:33:08 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N6V00E007CIGT00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 17740@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Jun 2014 22:33:00 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N6V00E5D7N0FG30@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sun, 08 Jun 2014 22:33:00 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2014 22:32:57 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#17740: info.texi patch for standalone Info In-reply-to: <201406081849.s58Inr97007579@freefriends.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Message-id: <83a99n2o46.fsf@gnu.org> References: <201406081849.s58Inr97007579@freefriends.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17740 Cc: 17740@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 18:49:53 GMT > From: karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry) > > Hope the patch below is ok for you. Just eliminates some weird bits > about the standalone Info that haven't been necessary for umpteen years. > This is against the trunk info.texi. Thanks, installed on the release branch (will be merged to the trunk soonish). > By the way, grepping for "modeline" and "mode-line" through all the > manuals in Emacs turns up a few other instances that presumably should > be changed to "mode line" for consistency. (Not identifiers, obviously.) Yep. 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