From unknown Sun Aug 10 03:09:06 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#1768 <1768@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#1768 <1768@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 23.0.60; proced-mode should be autoloaded Reply-To: bug#1768 <1768@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2025 10:09:06 +0000 retitle 1768 23.0.60; proced-mode should be autoloaded reassign 1768 emacs submitter 1768 Eli Zaretskii severity 1768 minor thanks From eliz@gnu.org Fri Jan 2 10:55:11 2009 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 2 Jan 2009 18:55:11 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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Your bug report will be posted to the emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org mailing list. Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and the precise symptoms of the bug: emacs -Q C-h f proced RET C-x o go to to `proced-mode' hyper link and press RET => No cross-reference here I think this happens because `proced-mode' is not autoloaded. If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger, please include the output from the following gdb commands: `bt full' and `xbacktrace'. If you would like to further debug the crash, please read the file d:/gnu/emacs/etc/DEBUG for instructions. In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2009-01-02 on HOME-C4E4A596F7 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: ENU value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: cp1255 default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: C-h f p r o c e d C-x o C-x o M-x r e m p o r Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. 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X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mail-ew0-f10.google.com (mail-ew0-f10.google.com [209.85.219.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0J0ugNe008346 for <1768@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:56:44 -0800 Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so797378ewy.1 for <1768@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:56:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZkCTmfuOBfn0kN7FpFxs54ujwk4oqoEpP4wuPE1Vsvs=; b=pYnW/Ky9PUOMrUyL9KFvCPgYqkmBK+A1IazNXcZFsnJngJv3CP7Zsv5P6K9RK4xywW 54qv0hR4wG5jGHty0Y30hYAfAjgg9Eknsht7Ba5W8P5FpOK0VvoXjdhCElqZAwjtyWPf G0kNFROBzlx8/uVrdRlHJx8L92075wrLdRPRE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=so5G3/h/qHD20PHTcUs8/CezUZI+mKp8zFtaSurL+KyrFVoZ6bP9uOoxkgLRkz+dbO lAXsUHrD+wFrdVQiAzQ+wFm3KaAns6QCnt/G04N5r7S2ufK6VD0GrnqqOj4iDu6SypN+ neW74m+Gn5Cj9bpePMJoI2JTIWTcrMhmc4kmw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.68.1 with SMTP id q1mr1090919eba.46.1232326597392; Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:56:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:56:37 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#1768: 23.0.60; proced-mode should be autoloaded From: Juanma Barranquero To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 1768@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 19:55, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > emacs -Q > C-h f proced RET > C-x o > go to to `proced-mode' hyper link and press RET > => No cross-reference here > > I think this happens because `proced-mode' is not autoloaded. Indeed, thought the docstring of `proced-mode' contains about ten new hyperlinks in the same situation. Perhaps it'd be better to move most information about proced to the docstring of `proced', from `proced-mode'. It's similar to what happens with server, where the docstring of `server-start' is more informative than the one for `server-mode', because `server-start' is the primary user interface. Juanma From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 10 10:52:36 2011 Received: (at 1768) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jul 2011 14:52:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QfvN5-0001D5-Mr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 10:52:36 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QfvN3-0001Ck-1l for 1768@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 10:52:33 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QfvMr-0001eC-7J; Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:52:21 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Juanma Barranquero Subject: Re: bug#1768: 23.0.60; proced-mode should be autoloaded In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:56:37 +0100") Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:44:37 +0200 Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Rick Rizzo and Tara Key's _Double Star_: "Loop 2" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110710:lekktu@gmail.com::eP89hjZzLOiltV7/:09Vj1 X-Hashcash: 1:23:110710:1768@debbugs.gnu.org::C8rbPKHlFOU2O5+D:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000F7Kw X-Hashcash: 1:23:110710:eliz@gnu.org::uWFSsh0I/ctlQyy5:00000deGt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1QfvMr-0001eC-7J X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1310914341.3918@eRMj46Q0KYv9Ljn6jwgnKQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 1768 Cc: 1768@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Juanma Barranquero writes: > Perhaps it'd be better to move most information about proced to the > docstring of `proced', from `proced-mode'. It's similar to what > happens with server, where the docstring of `server-start' is more > informative than the one for `server-mode', because `server-start' is > the primary user interface. I think that's a good idea. Could you make that change? I know nothing about `proced'. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 05 10:30:43 2012 Received: (at 1768) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Aug 2012 14:30:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35543 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sy1qt-0004vb-2q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 10:30:43 -0400 Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com ([209.85.160.44]:48841) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sy1qr-0004sG-3A for 1768@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 10:30:41 -0400 Received: by pbbrr4 with SMTP id rr4so2466532pbb.3 for <1768@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 07:22:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=BNCgQkJBBWH6mg6ew+k9I2f6+jBRQcL3/xMJgOpseig=; b=xXj9pJbuLi6h+tLUBP4DMji3HZRi13hni+utMdZrmn+Vsd7YT7Iy+z6hK6HLGd+LXt qixrDNDXgcL8WmGdoHEqerTaVtVIXA8LwHE/dkNAUiF86pqypVhyqhAaDrzRkOgiC0aR McHTBnmxpZADBeHeKDBayy7snXjNJYAozvWev9J3CPBgGjCU28CGC7rtYi6JvjHcaWgA 3zu7CFoV+TI7lBwY0qIC0KOUaRQnqeirC2od3JCnVpe4x9+H5PtfNIdxzHpJ3yx6lNRy LfO2W5+o/KplCr6fTMf9kbwOO+hahCkGQRAtkdm9vK6uEudkJCLwFoQN1ZPuzLRdOSXx edfQ== Received: by 10.68.203.66 with SMTP id ko2mr12087851pbc.84.1344176573054; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 07:22:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ulysses (cm162.gamma80.maxonline.com.sg. [202.156.80.162]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ob9sm6946282pbb.28.2012.08.05.07.22.49 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 05 Aug 2012 07:22:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Chong Yidong To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#1768: 23.0.60; proced-mode should be autoloaded References: Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2012 22:22:44 +0800 In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 02 Jan 2009 20:55:05 +0200") Message-ID: <8739412zbf.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 1768 Cc: 1768@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Eli Zaretskii writes: > emacs -Q > C-h f proced RET > C-x o > go to to `proced-mode' hyper link and press RET > => No cross-reference here > > I think this happens because `proced-mode' is not autoloaded. This is now fixed with the "autoload on C-h v" feature. Closing. 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[202.156.80.162]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id wi6sm3522914pbc.35.2012.08.05.07.22.56 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 05 Aug 2012 07:22:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: close 1768 Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2012 22:22:54 +0800 Message-ID: <87txwhfmf5.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) close 1768 thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 05 13:12:07 2012 Received: (at 1768) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Aug 2012 17:12:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35735 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sy4N5-0000yh-5B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 13:12:07 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:51061) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sy4N1-0000yX-J0 for 1768@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 13:12:05 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0M8A00000JVY2900@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 1768@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 20:04:13 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0M8A00MFMKR17RI0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 20:04:13 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2012 20:04:13 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#1768: 23.0.60; proced-mode should be autoloaded In-reply-to: <8739412zbf.fsf@gnu.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Chong Yidong Message-id: <831ujlb78y.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8739412zbf.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 1768 Cc: 1768@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > From: Chong Yidong > Cc: 1768@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2012 22:22:44 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > emacs -Q > > C-h f proced RET > > C-x o > > go to to `proced-mode' hyper link and press RET > > => No cross-reference here > > > > I think this happens because `proced-mode' is not autoloaded. > > This is now fixed with the "autoload on C-h v" feature. Thanks. Though it would be nice if the <> trick were described somewhere in the docs. From unknown Sun Aug 10 03:09:06 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 11:24:03 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator