From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:06:22 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#17677 <17677@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#17677 <17677@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: gnus: confusing error message from `gnus-topic-unindent' Reply-To: bug#17677 <17677@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 06:06:22 +0000 retitle 17677 gnus: confusing error message from `gnus-topic-unindent' reassign 17677 emacs,gnus submitter 17677 Samuel Bronson severity 17677 normal tag 17677 fixed thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jun 03 13:27:06 2014 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jun 2014 17:27:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42466 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WrsUG-00045p-NT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 13:27:05 -0400 Received: from mail-qg0-f43.google.com ([209.85.192.43]:55414) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WrsU9-00045N-4h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 13:26:58 -0400 Received: by mail-qg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id 63so13977384qgz.30 for ; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 10:26:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-type; bh=yz0NIdoytS5BmXvKUZ8PdB10vHxjtZHYtIjm9um0taQ=; b=V8tk2DCKsqSV2NPbE5xcbP+bNvs5izQkXVDeQoIRXHs6rZzcqkDPPX8rzriOsZfqyy J1yv8emZnNnUvVNxNbsnppFbRQuixZXxkkKZmQ8aObFr9G/ThznUD314bt96xQbbXWj4 Ahik4stgIx2CG7kxdBVpQDCM/wv91N6T8fe8hgIyXsjwvndjx0war11hCLyLWs3k8E9C LQ8LuRkcwlW92rKUerNXsty6Kfl8BX2dLaPnzUxu+2hFRL+Mz4fVLPwLIgLDOJG5ezEw 8z0twNJfZsE0TH04aTjIjs+YdWU7nsRI6SppVzW5qS/r9mIKmBzB9wyFqkXNHZV6YXOX KvgQ== X-Received: by 10.140.22.209 with SMTP id 75mr57975220qgn.4.1401816407609; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 10:26:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hydrogen (naesten-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net. [2001:470:1f06:57::2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id m2sm10805659qga.47.2014.06.03.10.26.45 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 03 Jun 2014 10:26:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from naesten by hydrogen with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1WrsTz-0002Qt-6g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 13:26:43 -0400 From: Samuel Bronson To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys) Subject: gnus: confusing error message from `gnus-topic-unindent' X-Debbugs-Version: 5.13 X-Debbugs-Package: gnus Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 13:26:42 -0400 Message-ID: <8761kh3nvx.fsf@naesten.mooo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) When I invoke `gnus-topic-unindent' and it can't see how to unindent the topic any further, it says (e.g.) "Nothing to indent Gnus into". This rather confused me about the key handling at first, since (at least for the first sub-topic) this is exactly the same message I get for `gnus-topic-indent'. (Also for the top-level topic, but I doubt anyone would seriously attempt to indent/unindent that?) It's also not immediately obvious that the message makes any sense even if you s/indent/unindent/, though upon reflection I guess it sort-of does: there isn't exactly a grandparent or parent of the top-level topic into which to move the top-level topic or its children, respectively. Gnus v5.13 GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2013-12-22 on binet, modified by Debian -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 25 12:32:30 2017 Received: (at 17677) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2017 17:32:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43186 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWRQs-0005IT-Ay for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 12:32:30 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:42144) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWRQr-0005IM-GV for 17677@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 12:32:29 -0500 Received: from 2.150.50.220.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.50.220] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWRQm-0005tb-Cm; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:32:28 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Samuel Bronson Subject: Re: bug#17677: gnus: confusing error message from `gnus-topic-unindent' In-Reply-To: <8761kh3nvx.fsf@naesten.mooo.com> (Samuel Bronson's message of "Tue, 03 Jun 2014 13:26:42 -0400") Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:28:08 +0100 Message-ID: <871svruk0n.fsf@gnus.org> References: <8761kh3nvx.fsf@naesten.mooo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17677 Cc: 17677@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Samuel Bronson writes: > When I invoke `gnus-topic-unindent' and it can't see how to unindent the > topic any further, it says (e.g.) "Nothing to indent Gnus into". This > rather confused me about the key handling at first, since (at least for > the first sub-topic) this is exactly the same message I get for > `gnus-topic-indent'. (Also for the top-level topic, but I doubt anyone > would seriously attempt to indent/unindent that?) I've now changed the error message to: (unless grandparent - (error "Nothing to indent %s into" topic)) + (error "Can't unindent %s further" topic)) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 25 12:32:23 2017 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2017 17:32:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43183 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWRQj-0005I8-VG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 12:32:23 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:42136) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWRQi-0005Hy-8J for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 12:32:20 -0500 Received: from 2.150.50.220.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.50.220] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWRQe-0005NX-L9 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:32:18 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: control message for bug #17677 Message-ID: <8737g7uk0q.fsf@totally-fudged-out-message-id> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:32:10 +0100 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) reassign 17677 emacs,gnus From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 25 12:32:37 2017 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2017 17:32:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43189 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWRQz-0005In-HU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 12:32:37 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:42151) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWRQy-0005Ig-PP for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 12:32:37 -0500 Received: from 2.150.50.220.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.50.220] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWRQw-0006c0-Ik for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:32:36 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: control message for bug #17677 Message-ID: <87ziift5g4.fsf@totally-fudged-out-message-id> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:32:28 +0100 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) tags 17677 fixed close 17677 From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:06:22 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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