From unknown Sat Sep 13 23:19:32 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17659: 24.3.90; C-x 8 ? displays help instead of inserting INVERTED QUESTION MARK Resent-From: Eric Hanchrow Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2014 04:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 17659 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 17659@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.14015952486984 (code B ref -1); Sun, 01 Jun 2014 04:01:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jun 2014 04:00:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39369 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wqwwx-0001oZ-5b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2014 00:00:47 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48537) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wqwwu-0001oF-K0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2014 00:00:45 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wqwwo-0002QQ-0H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2014 00:00:39 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:39096) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wqwwn-0002QM-TV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2014 00:00:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50258) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wqwwm-0003hC-Lf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2014 00:00:37 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wqwwl-0002Ov-A1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2014 00:00:36 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-x231.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::231]:60127) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wqwwk-0002Ok-LS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2014 00:00:35 -0400 Received: by mail-wg0-f49.google.com with SMTP id m15so3684435wgh.32 for ; Sat, 31 May 2014 21:00:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=4Y9RHydzV0dAQU+9KseVd+1DYSu5lE+O2wkVEwwmX84=; b=XXu9LnGGK/kwEpK9ljwRt2IZIFeJMEEVtIa8eN0D2Ibhv5frmczvJbM1P6/optjoGq xp7ReUFQUDmp2EO8/8ltGjPGzo69keZcI7Ic8DX8gnsZCU2DlkKwn/7uf72KWOioLyAe aNrUyios+CMUysxejYxE2GvQAZ/+f+ehSNfW86calark8Pkz3CFoWpMRLPzzNlLEeuhC qeDpw85QpAROKKE/EYZn1kWdgZMhH/OXbVn3jDIrrgjl5zQHxxcqGs1c7EpwUXbbar3t 5FZ9p5t4d/mz6SOpBGeH5ASLF3YmtyEaw5O6zAniyMjmvcHL1XtqbqXWArV/Edk3fCoK QScQ== X-Received: by 10.194.187.107 with SMTP id fr11mr36863673wjc.70.1401595232950; Sat, 31 May 2014 21:00:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.80.5 with HTTP; Sat, 31 May 2014 21:00:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Eric Hanchrow Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 21:00:12 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) The subject says it all: when I type C-x 8 ?, I expect emacs to insert into the buffer Unicode 191, INVERTED QUESTION MARK. However, instead it displays a *Help* buffer whose first line reads Key translations Starting With C-x 8: In GNU Emacs 24.3.90.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin13.1.0, NS apple-appkit-1265.19) of 2014-05-07 on Eric-Hanchrows-MacBook-Pro.local Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1265 Configured using: `configure --with-ns' Important settings: locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: eldoc-mode: t magit-auto-revert-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t diff-auto-refine-mode: t global-auto-revert-mode: t elisp-slime-nav-mode: t recentf-mode: t ido-everywhere: t display-time-mode: t tooltip-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: M-\ C-a C-n C-o C-n C-M-d C-M-f C-M-f C-M-f C-o C-M-f C-M-o C-M-f C-M-o C-M-f C-M-o C-M-f C-M-o C-M-f C-M-o C-M-f C-M-o C-M-f C-M-o C-M-f C-M-o C-M-f C-M-o C-M-u C-M-q C-x | C-n C-M-n C-M-o C-M-n C-M-o C-M-u C-M-q C-n C-n C-n C-n C-e C-a C-p C-M-n C-M-o C-M-u C-M-q C-n C-M-d C-M-n C-o C-M-n C-o C-M-n C-o C-M-n C-o C-M-n C-o C-M-n C-o C-M-n C-a C-M-u C-M-u C-M-u C-M-u C-M-q C-h a p r e t t y C-M-v C-M-v C-M-v C-x o M-v M-v M-v C-l M-m q C-x b C-p C-p C-e C-SPC C-M-b M-w M-> M-( c l - p r e p SPC C-y C-e C-j M-- C-l C-M-p C-M-k C-M-p C-M-k C-M-k C-x C-o M-- C-l C-u C-u C-p C-u C-p C-u C-p C-n C-n C-M-d C-M-d C-M-f C-M-f C-M-f C-M-f C-M-f C-M-f C-M-f C-M-f C-M-f C-M-f C-M-f C-M-u C-b C-b C-f C-f C-n M-RET M-m C-f C-f C-f C-h i C-x b M-> i n p u t - d e c o C-j C-h i q l o c a l - f u n C-j C-x | M-- C-l C-M-p C-p M-1 M-( c l - p r e t t p SPC C-e C-M-k C-j C-M-p C-p C-p ; ; SPC C-a C-o C-p C-p ; ; SPC C-a C-n M-> C-M-p C-p C-p C-f C-f C-f C-SPC C-e M-w M-> C-u C-y C-h i C-u C-n C-u C-n C-p C-p C-e C-b C-SPC M-b M-b M-b M-w C-x b C-e C-b C-M-b C-M-o C-y C-M-k C-e C-j C-M-p M-0 C-l C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-M-u C-M-u C-M-u C-M-u M-x r e p o r Recent messages: Mark set Truncate long lines enabled forward-list: Scan error: "Containing expression ends prematurely", 6598, 6599 Type "q" in help window to restore its previous buffer. Mark set [3 times] M-RET is undefined Mark set Truncate long lines disabled Mark set [6 times] Making completion list... Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug sendmail apropos dabbrev debug iso-transl log-view pcmpl-unix rect mm-archive network-stream starttls url-cache url-handlers vc-bzr vc-sccs vc-svn vc-cvs vc-rcs vc vc-dispatcher js cc-mode cc-fonts cc-guess cc-menus cc-cmds cc-styles cc-align cc-engine cc-vars cc-defs yaml-mode tar-mode jka-compr smerge-mode mule-util ffap eieio-opt speedbar sb-image ezimage dframe flyspell ispell browse-kill-ring misearch multi-isearch face-remap woman man eldoc protbuf gist gh-gist gh-oauth gh-api logito gh-cache pcache gh-auth gh-common gh-url url-http tls url url-proxy url-privacy url-expand url-methods url-history mailcap url-auth url-cookie url-domsuf url-gw gh-profile timezone eieio-base magit-key-mode magit view tramp tramp-compat tramp-loaddefs trampver shell pcomplete epa epg epg-config diff-mode git-rebase-mode git-commit-mode log-edit message format-spec rfc822 mml mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mailabbrev mail-utils gmm-utils mailheader pcvs-util add-log vc-git derived autorevert filenotify elisp-slime-nav paste-to-dropbox path server saveplace url-util url-parse auth-source gnus-util mm-util mail-prsvr password-cache url-vars find-func ibuf-ext ibuf-macs ibuffer recentf tree-widget wid-edit dired-x dired perl-extras perl-mode autoinsert rx elpy yasnippet help-mode pyvenv grep python nose easy-mmode json idomenu imenu ido highlight-indentation flymake find-file-in-project cl etags elpy-refactor auto-complete-config auto-complete edmacro kmacro popup quack thingatpt compile cmuscheme comint ansi-color ring scheme color-theme-autoloads fuzzy-autoloads gist-autoloads finder-inf eieio byte-opt bytecomp byte-compile cconv eieio-core highlight-indentation-autoloads idomenu-autoloads iedit-autoloads logito-autoloads markdown-mode-autoloads info easymenu pcache-autoloads powerline advice help-fns cl-macs gv powerline-separators color cl-loaddefs cl-lib powerline-themes quack-autoloads svg-clock-autoloads typo-autoloads yaml-mode-autoloads package time midnight time-date tooltip electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel ns-win tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process cocoa ns multi-tty emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 781944 201941) (symbols 48 57208 0) (miscs 40 1866 3163) (strings 32 282720 4216) (string-bytes 1 5155307) (vectors 16 44016) (vector-slots 8 1691982 184043) (floats 8 380 1720) (intervals 56 68888 1320) (buffers 960 63)) From unknown Sat Sep 13 23:19:32 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17659: 24.3.90; C-x 8 ? displays help instead of inserting INVERTED QUESTION MARK Resent-From: Leo Liu Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2014 13:02:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17659 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eric Hanchrow Cc: Stefan Monnier , 17659@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 17659-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17659.1401714102435 (code B ref 17659); Mon, 02 Jun 2014 13:02:01 +0000 Received: (at 17659) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jun 2014 13:01:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40448 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WrRrs-00006s-VX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 09:01:41 -0400 Received: from mail-pb0-f49.google.com ([209.85.160.49]:61962) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WrRrl-00006X-R0 for 17659@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 09:01:34 -0400 Received: by mail-pb0-f49.google.com with SMTP id jt11so4183023pbb.36 for <17659@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 06:01:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:face:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=6EuFJGR/2ceMfRUkcAThEbZJiOEhD8aedSPoDonsBEc=; b=S0Op4XzhEUQhhfIAq4cxmSCED3o+9G9e72ya8Nov12TETkGuGpht/pHdO+gYq+GBt/ GTbEyjA43U4mMSmMSYu3WBh81zTZTQtWym56FfEhPhnVQaeJpgRdNH6gVz8+HdFyp3Rz J+R9EJd7qpSypNnO+5fV9I4Z515mh3l8rETelnc6J6pMVav2gQ+pDlwMNtOVyiq3rjrI uI+h31rfMwgDMU//4q6Ldq3L3U7dJR25hGJbqzVRs5YEjE0LN1rSXHhOju7MJ5//5Imn 27i75NksAMiXecQ3i5RsBtowwEzBLGvhjYiHmF75HcMOG6828JQx9OdRUdWfKTm62Y0B AfvA== X-Received: by 10.68.166.131 with SMTP id zg3mr4216789pbb.165.1401714083392; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 06:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fortuna ([221.217.232.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id xz7sm63936193pac.3.2014.06.02.06.01.20 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 02 Jun 2014 06:01:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Leo Liu References: Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoAgMAAADxkFD+AAAADFBMVEUvT09qWs3/pQD///+J kUVcAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB9cBBwMLOd3veKQA AACuSURBVBjTldE9CgIxEAXgB+lEyFUC2wo5ikdZ8DSypxhMY7H9VuIVwlqkGRgnm59VsHGafIQ3 CZlAtmKIRaHETgYa12lqvEsPYKf8wXHsPGfqPaUM0g9aJPKFXkmNQmSDqwzz4Fpgpz+6WAPY2z5o uPJJpu0uypcl4nyCibMLQ8lCiVjayLoQvw5LsVKQuHPRR958HZbOcVsKeepcLxpByjycGvnKmY+c MBvrtyjfe0vmuLvdq/kAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2014 21:01:12 +0800 In-Reply-To: (Eric Hanchrow's message of "Sat, 31 May 2014 21:00:12 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (CentOS 6.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On 2014-05-31 21:00 -0700, Eric Hanchrow wrote: > The subject says it all: when I type C-x 8 ?, I expect emacs to insert > into the buffer Unicode 191, INVERTED QUESTION MARK. However, instead > it displays a *Help* buffer whose first line reads > > Key translations Starting With C-x 8: ? is bound in iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map but oddly the ? (help-char) takes precedence. Stefan, any idea where to look to fix it? Leo From unknown Sat Sep 13 23:19:32 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17659: 24.3.90; C-x 8 ? displays help instead of inserting INVERTED QUESTION MARK Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 01:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17659 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Leo Liu Cc: Eric Hanchrow , 17659@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 17659-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17659.140176035514005 (code B ref 17659); Tue, 03 Jun 2014 01:53:02 +0000 Received: (at 17659) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jun 2014 01:52:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41408 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wrdty-0003dn-Sp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 21:52:35 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:29155) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wrdtx-0003dT-2j for 17659@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 21:52:33 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArYGAIDvNVPO+IOj/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSr0vgw6BFxd0giUBAQEBAgFWIxALDiYSFBgNJIgECNIZF456B4Q4BKkZgWqBcYFbIQ X-IPAS-Result: ArYGAIDvNVPO+IOj/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSr0vgw6BFxd0giUBAQEBAgFWIxALDiYSFBgNJIgECNIZF456B4Q4BKkZgWqBcYFbIQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="65528277" Received: from 206-248-131-163.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([206.248.131.163]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 02 Jun 2014 21:52:26 -0400 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 183D3660D4; Mon, 2 Jun 2014 21:52:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2014 21:52:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Leo Liu's message of "Mon, 02 Jun 2014 21:01:12 +0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) >> The subject says it all: when I type C-x 8 ?, I expect emacs to insert >> into the buffer Unicode 191, INVERTED QUESTION MARK. However, instead >> it displays a *Help* buffer whose first line reads >> Key translations Starting With C-x 8: > ? is bound in iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map but oddly the ? (help-char) takes > precedence. Stefan, any idea where to look to fix it? I guess it's in read_key_sequence (you know, that self-evident 10-liner). Stefan From unknown Sat Sep 13 23:19:32 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17659: 24.3.90; C-x 8 ? displays help instead of inserting INVERTED QUESTION MARK Resent-From: Leo Liu Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 02:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17659 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Monnier Cc: Eric Hanchrow , 17659@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 17659-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17659.140176430322198 (code B ref 17659); Tue, 03 Jun 2014 02:59:02 +0000 Received: (at 17659) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jun 2014 02:58:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41425 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wreve-0005lr-2r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 22:58:22 -0400 Received: from mail-pd0-f178.google.com ([209.85.192.178]:41729) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wrevb-0005lb-Ej for 17659@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 22:58:20 -0400 Received: by mail-pd0-f178.google.com with SMTP id v10so4077618pde.37 for <17659@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 19:58:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:face:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=VeS83aD73fFmZCtBMc7zmwC16ImDOomaZl9LurJ0800=; b=Wom6kFSUeQkuQrmRyVAoN+WI4zpTmRtMAb4MNLOazqLNpW1Khj9+76AolxWl+1ouFJ FCp35RJeWn8qVHzcLooDiln3Jvraa4GHFq9HALNEWxKOqcRzHFsyLHspYiMBfZtTAjXa D7ZlT7LyWIzBSVeMAUg2npjs/ztY4Zh6YqKqD7gSM0YeRAxHSQf6Eu6FWnQJ/zhu/4fP kiNxyHPvxjr4YCA2OGm4bacNAKVd7eZ61Kg2aoSm5boJTiNsYGUy3HQF5yV6M8IOzPC2 Ln0skvuf87x/Phh1O5GUlab25ynteHmEo3aN0rgLT8/wkQbRMnta/FMZKEAUYPSDqkjK ohaQ== X-Received: by 10.66.175.166 with SMTP id cb6mr23409292pac.128.1401764293232; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 19:58:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fortuna ([221.217.232.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id su8sm22847667pbc.72.2014.06.02.19.58.10 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 02 Jun 2014 19:58:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Leo Liu References: Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoBAMAAAB+0KVeAAAAElBMVEUAAAAAAP+LRRP0pGC+ vr7///+7mT1iAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB9cBBwMO DhglKe4AAAEsSURBVCjPbZNBboQwDEV/Cd4X9QJRThApmn0XYW+Jyf2v0m+HhqDBgiAe9rcTG7QH w/1Vn2Ar8gBb/ocywSN3qK9T3z4eFDB4eApocBpeBs1RSykoJd8gQcm8pGmHXFso3ajnmsqV0TnY DQkOfXUfN5NwaI7AWTVOyEhcu1aHmdWItHddUVUcUgUBCkitu8V6ditHVOVdqzl2EQ1ZVGTbdK0V 7cqn8vWzoU5Q/bF9Y/Y0cRU1xwkys5dJ+Dt6pBDWifcNQml8Gh2JVmPSoQzo7en0grswkxrUGYJ7 0hSxxAGr7ZMwYcHIzprpi7TENEE1xtiYxixRlCfPBsUUrwHD7uGIwATrbnODJcVrPpVn3hxiGloe m/S+z3CtuzUSMo83N4DPH+F0evwR3P4A2k+75838OKQAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 10:58:07 +0800 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 02 Jun 2014 21:52:26 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (CentOS 6.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On 2014-06-02 21:52 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > I guess it's in read_key_sequence (you know, that self-evident 10-liner). ;) I can not verify if this breaks something else (I am using an apple keyboard) but it fixes the bug. === modified file 'lisp/international/iso-transl.el' --- lisp/international/iso-transl.el 2014-02-10 01:34:22 +0000 +++ lisp/international/iso-transl.el 2014-06-03 02:46:11 +0000 @@ -39,7 +39,7 @@ ;;; Code: ;;; Provide some binding for startup: -;;;###autoload (define-key key-translation-map "\C-x8" 'iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map) +;;;###autoload (define-key ctl-x-map "8" iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map) ;;;###autoload (autoload 'iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map "iso-transl" "Keymap for C-x 8 prefix." t 'keymap) (defvar iso-transl-dead-key-alist @@ -239,12 +239,10 @@ (defvar iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map nil "Keymap for C-x 8 prefix.") + (or iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map (fset 'iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map (setq iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map (make-sparse-keymap)))) -(or key-translation-map - (setq key-translation-map (make-sparse-keymap))) -(define-key key-translation-map "\C-x8" iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map) ;; For each entry in the alist, we'll make up to three ways to generate ;; the character in question: the prefix `C-x 8'; the ALT modifier on From unknown Sat Sep 13 23:19:32 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17659: 24.3.90; C-x 8 ? displays help instead of inserting INVERTED QUESTION MARK Resent-From: Leo Liu Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 00:03:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17659 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 17659@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 17659-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17659.1401840177792 (code B ref 17659); Wed, 04 Jun 2014 00:03:01 +0000 Received: (at 17659) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jun 2014 00:02:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42783 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WryfQ-0000Ci-PP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 20:02:57 -0400 Received: from mail-pb0-f48.google.com ([209.85.160.48]:42611) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WryfO-0000CS-DG for 17659@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 20:02:55 -0400 Received: by mail-pb0-f48.google.com with SMTP id rr13so6158488pbb.21 for <17659@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 17:02:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:references:face:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HqDLyrJ85LEc8jWT92eSNPOL8mds8M1T6Iml/jUzvdc=; b=MSrlr5FbTVqQ93mm6o+yE6fOBTasWRqonedJQ/HY5+mlfMsyOlxg/+wyMSQw2DA+IK hMBVOAkyWPQ1hCXHKHNa3cQofUWWMHVJ4rsdXGBqlK7pnHAnMcU42JdoIaVhOOy66vwY OlUEn3uIJpCjREI88tH8B7w/66CR83p/h9gEd7pL09Qql/HekqBBP+foGiX1uFjKYGNw 6DuJQ4usx9JZwH0iZinMblG5LvW0ZhZeqgRXtbuVICFg44J0tOiKAEOU7++Qms88MfXn NB1PkoxBUEqQhFk0gAfcZ4+06HV9V4KyErIzbJ+k2pbOLsvWpLt7SsdGo3XZXfgj8p2X xL7A== X-Received: by 10.68.170.131 with SMTP id am3mr56510390pbc.97.1401840168197; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 17:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fortuna ([221.217.232.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id co3sm2303968pbb.89.2014.06.03.17.02.45 for <17659@debbugs.gnu.org> (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 03 Jun 2014 17:02:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Leo Liu References: Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoBAMAAAB+0KVeAAAAElBMVEUAAAAAAP+LRRP0pGC+ vr7///+7mT1iAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB9cBBwMO DhglKe4AAAEsSURBVCjPbZNBboQwDEV/Cd4X9QJRThApmn0XYW+Jyf2v0m+HhqDBgiAe9rcTG7QH w/1Vn2Ar8gBb/ocywSN3qK9T3z4eFDB4eApocBpeBs1RSykoJd8gQcm8pGmHXFso3ajnmsqV0TnY DQkOfXUfN5NwaI7AWTVOyEhcu1aHmdWItHddUVUcUgUBCkitu8V6ditHVOVdqzl2EQ1ZVGTbdK0V 7cqn8vWzoU5Q/bF9Y/Y0cRU1xwkys5dJ+Dt6pBDWifcNQml8Gh2JVmPSoQzo7en0grswkxrUGYJ7 0hSxxAGr7ZMwYcHIzprpi7TENEE1xtiYxixRlCfPBsUUrwHD7uGIwATrbnODJcVrPpVn3hxiGloe m/S+z3CtuzUSMo83N4DPH+F0evwR3P4A2k+75838OKQAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 08:02:41 +0800 In-Reply-To: (Leo Liu's message of "Tue, 03 Jun 2014 10:58:07 +0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (CentOS 6.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On 2014-06-03 10:58 +0800, Leo Liu wrote: > I can not verify if this breaks something else (I am using an apple > keyboard) but it fixes the bug. How about something along these lines? =3D=3D=3D modified file 'lisp/international/iso-transl.el' --- lisp/international/iso-transl.el 2014-02-10 01:34:22 +0000 +++ lisp/international/iso-transl.el 2014-06-03 16:18:51 +0000 @@ -39,8 +39,10 @@ ;;; Code: =20 ;;; Provide some binding for startup: -;;;###autoload (define-key key-translation-map "\C-x8" 'iso-transl-ctl-x-8= -map) -;;;###autoload (autoload 'iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map "iso-transl" "Keymap for = C-x 8 prefix." t 'keymap) +;;;###autoload +(define-prefix-command 'iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map) +;;;###autoload +(define-key ctl-x-map "8" 'iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map) =20 (defvar iso-transl-dead-key-alist '((?\' . mute-acute) @@ -237,15 +239,6 @@ ("N" . [?=D1]) ("n" . [?=F1])))) =20 -(defvar iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map nil - "Keymap for C-x 8 prefix.") -(or iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map - (fset 'iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map - (setq iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map (make-sparse-keymap)))) -(or key-translation-map - (setq key-translation-map (make-sparse-keymap))) -(define-key key-translation-map "\C-x8" iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map) - ;; For each entry in the alist, we'll make up to three ways to generate ;; the character in question: the prefix `C-x 8'; the ALT modifier on ;; the first key of the sequence; and (if applicable) replacing the first From unknown Sat Sep 13 23:19:32 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17659: 24.3.90; C-x 8 ? displays help instead of inserting INVERTED QUESTION MARK Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 12:35:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17659 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Leo Liu Cc: 17659@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 17659-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17659.14018852655118 (code B ref 17659); Wed, 04 Jun 2014 12:35:02 +0000 Received: (at 17659) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jun 2014 12:34:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43252 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WsAOa-0001KO-OM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2014 08:34:25 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:41538) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WsAOU-0001K3-1N for 17659@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2014 08:34:18 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArYGAIDvNVPO+IOj/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSr0vgw6BFxd0giUBAQEBAgFWIwULCw4mEhQYDSSIBAjSGReOegeEOASpGYFqgXGBWyE X-IPAS-Result: ArYGAIDvNVPO+IOj/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSr0vgw6BFxd0giUBAQEBAgFWIwULCw4mEhQYDSSIBAjSGReOegeEOASpGYFqgXGBWyE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="65662728" Received: from 206-248-131-163.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.131.163]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 04 Jun 2014 08:33:04 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id AD8CD60126; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 08:33:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 08:33:04 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Leo Liu's message of "Wed, 04 Jun 2014 08:02:41 +0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > How about something along these lines? This would break C-x 8 in Isearch, AFAIK. Have you tried to find the root cause of the problem? Stefan From unknown Sat Sep 13 23:19:32 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17659: 24.3.90; C-x 8 ? displays help instead of inserting INVERTED QUESTION MARK Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 03:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17659 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Leo Liu Cc: Eric Hanchrow , 17659@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 17659-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17659.140314880029284 (code B ref 17659); Thu, 19 Jun 2014 03:34:02 +0000 Received: (at 17659) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jun 2014 03:33:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52318 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WxT6G-0007cG-2Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 23:33:20 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:57324) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WxT6D-0007c2-RV for 17659@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 23:33:18 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArYGAIDvNVNLd+D9/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSr0vgw6BFxd0giUBAQEBAgFWIxALDiYSFBgNJC2HVwjSGReOegeEOASpGYFqgXGBWyE X-IPAS-Result: ArYGAIDvNVNLd+D9/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSr0vgw6BFxd0giUBAQEBAgFWIxALDiYSFBgNJC2HVwjSGReOegeEOASpGYFqgXGBWyE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="67958062" Received: from 75-119-224-253.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([75.119.224.253]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 18 Jun 2014 23:33:11 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id AEF6662D00; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 23:33:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 23:33:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Leo Liu's message of "Mon, 02 Jun 2014 21:01:12 +0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) >> The subject says it all: when I type C-x 8 ?, I expect emacs to insert >> into the buffer Unicode 191, INVERTED QUESTION MARK. However, instead >> it displays a *Help* buffer whose first line reads >> Key translations Starting With C-x 8: > ? is bound in iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map but oddly the ? (help-char) takes > precedence. Stefan, any idea where to look to fix it? BTW, maybe it was obvious to someone, but it wasn't to me, so I'll mention that this is a regression w.r.t 24.3 and it is caused by the change documented in NEWS: *** The key `?' now describes prefix bindings, like `C-h'. Stefan From unknown Sat Sep 13 23:19:32 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.503 (Entity 5.503) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Eric Hanchrow Subject: bug#17659: closed (Re: bug#17659: 24.3.90; C-x 8 ? displays help instead of inserting INVERTED QUESTION MARK) Message-ID: References: X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 17659 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 17659@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 03:53:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1403149982-31120-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1403149982-31120-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #17659: 24.3.90; C-x 8 ? displays help instead of inserting INVERTED QUESTI= ON MARK which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 17659@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 17659: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D17659 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1403149982-31120-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 17659-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jun 2014 03:52:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52327 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WxTPF-00085e-Du for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 23:52:57 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:6696) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WxTPD-00085M-FO for 17659-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 23:52:56 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArYGAIDvNVNLd+D9/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSr0vgw6BFxd0giUBAQEBAgFWIwULCzQSFBgNJIgECNIZF456B4Q4BKkZgWqBcYFbIQ X-IPAS-Result: ArYGAIDvNVNLd+D9/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSr0vgw6BFxd0giUBAQEBAgFWIwULCzQSFBgNJIgECNIZF456B4Q4BKkZgWqBcYFbIQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="67965798" Received: from 75-119-224-253.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([75.119.224.253]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 18 Jun 2014 23:52:49 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 83BF762D00; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 23:52:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Eric Hanchrow Subject: Re: bug#17659: 24.3.90; C-x 8 ? displays help instead of inserting INVERTED QUESTION MARK Message-ID: References: Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 23:52:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Eric Hanchrow's message of "Sat, 31 May 2014 21:00:12 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17659-done Cc: 17659-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > The subject says it all: when I type C-x 8 ?, I expect emacs to insert > into the buffer Unicode 191, INVERTED QUESTION MARK. However, instead > it displays a *Help* buffer whose first line reads > Key translations Starting With C-x 8: I installed the patch below into emacs-24 which seems to fix this problem. Stefan === modified file 'src/keyboard.c' --- src/keyboard.c 2014-05-06 16:16:57 +0000 +++ src/keyboard.c 2014-06-19 03:30:12 +0000 @@ -9384,16 +9385,6 @@ first_unbound = min (t, first_unbound); head = EVENT_HEAD (key); - if (help_char_p (head) && t > 0) - { - read_key_sequence_cmd = Vprefix_help_command; - keybuf[t++] = key; - last_nonmenu_event = key; - /* The Microsoft C compiler can't handle the goto that - would go here. */ - dummyflag = 1; - break; - } if (SYMBOLP (head)) { @@ -9651,6 +9642,17 @@ goto replay_sequence; } + + if (NILP (current_binding) + && help_char_p (EVENT_HEAD (key)) && t > 1) + { + read_key_sequence_cmd = Vprefix_help_command; + /* The Microsoft C compiler can't handle the goto that + would go here. */ + dummyflag = 1; + break; + } + /* If KEY is not defined in any of the keymaps, and cannot be part of a function key or translation, and is a shifted function key, ------------=_1403149982-31120-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jun 2014 04:00:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39369 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wqwwx-0001oZ-5b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2014 00:00:47 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48537) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wqwwu-0001oF-K0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2014 00:00:45 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wqwwo-0002QQ-0H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2014 00:00:39 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:39096) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wqwwn-0002QM-TV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2014 00:00:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50258) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wqwwm-0003hC-Lf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2014 00:00:37 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wqwwl-0002Ov-A1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2014 00:00:36 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-x231.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::231]:60127) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wqwwk-0002Ok-LS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2014 00:00:35 -0400 Received: by mail-wg0-f49.google.com with SMTP id m15so3684435wgh.32 for ; Sat, 31 May 2014 21:00:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=4Y9RHydzV0dAQU+9KseVd+1DYSu5lE+O2wkVEwwmX84=; b=XXu9LnGGK/kwEpK9ljwRt2IZIFeJMEEVtIa8eN0D2Ibhv5frmczvJbM1P6/optjoGq xp7ReUFQUDmp2EO8/8ltGjPGzo69keZcI7Ic8DX8gnsZCU2DlkKwn/7uf72KWOioLyAe aNrUyios+CMUysxejYxE2GvQAZ/+f+ehSNfW86calark8Pkz3CFoWpMRLPzzNlLEeuhC qeDpw85QpAROKKE/EYZn1kWdgZMhH/OXbVn3jDIrrgjl5zQHxxcqGs1c7EpwUXbbar3t 5FZ9p5t4d/mz6SOpBGeH5ASLF3YmtyEaw5O6zAniyMjmvcHL1XtqbqXWArV/Edk3fCoK QScQ== X-Received: by 10.194.187.107 with SMTP id fr11mr36863673wjc.70.1401595232950; Sat, 31 May 2014 21:00:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.80.5 with HTTP; Sat, 31 May 2014 21:00:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Eric Hanchrow Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 21:00:12 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: 24.3.90; C-x 8 ? displays help instead of inserting INVERTED QUESTION MARK To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) The subject says it all: when I type C-x 8 ?, I expect emacs to insert into the buffer Unicode 191, INVERTED QUESTION MARK. However, instead it displays a *Help* buffer whose first line reads Key translations Starting With C-x 8: In GNU Emacs 24.3.90.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin13.1.0, NS apple-appkit-1265.19) of 2014-05-07 on Eric-Hanchrows-MacBook-Pro.local Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1265 Configured using: `configure --with-ns' Important settings: locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: eldoc-mode: t magit-auto-revert-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t diff-auto-refine-mode: t global-auto-revert-mode: t elisp-slime-nav-mode: t recentf-mode: t ido-everywhere: t display-time-mode: t tooltip-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: M-\ C-a C-n C-o C-n C-M-d C-M-f C-M-f C-M-f C-o C-M-f C-M-o C-M-f C-M-o C-M-f C-M-o C-M-f C-M-o C-M-f C-M-o C-M-f C-M-o C-M-f C-M-o C-M-f C-M-o C-M-f C-M-o C-M-u C-M-q C-x | C-n C-M-n C-M-o C-M-n C-M-o C-M-u C-M-q C-n C-n C-n C-n C-e C-a C-p C-M-n C-M-o C-M-u C-M-q C-n C-M-d C-M-n C-o C-M-n C-o C-M-n C-o C-M-n C-o C-M-n C-o C-M-n C-o C-M-n C-a C-M-u C-M-u C-M-u C-M-u C-M-q C-h a p r e t t y C-M-v C-M-v C-M-v C-x o M-v M-v M-v C-l M-m q C-x b C-p C-p C-e C-SPC C-M-b M-w M-> M-( c l - p r e p SPC C-y C-e C-j M-- C-l C-M-p C-M-k C-M-p C-M-k C-M-k C-x C-o M-- C-l C-u C-u C-p C-u C-p C-u C-p C-n C-n C-M-d C-M-d C-M-f C-M-f C-M-f C-M-f C-M-f C-M-f C-M-f C-M-f C-M-f C-M-f C-M-f C-M-u C-b C-b C-f C-f C-n M-RET M-m C-f C-f C-f C-h i C-x b M-> i n p u t - d e c o C-j C-h i q l o c a l - f u n C-j C-x | M-- C-l C-M-p C-p M-1 M-( c l - p r e t t p SPC C-e C-M-k C-j C-M-p C-p C-p ; ; SPC C-a C-o C-p C-p ; ; SPC C-a C-n M-> C-M-p C-p C-p C-f C-f C-f C-SPC C-e M-w M-> C-u C-y C-h i C-u C-n C-u C-n C-p C-p C-e C-b C-SPC M-b M-b M-b M-w C-x b C-e C-b C-M-b C-M-o C-y C-M-k C-e C-j C-M-p M-0 C-l C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-M-u C-M-u C-M-u C-M-u M-x r e p o r Recent messages: Mark set Truncate long lines enabled forward-list: Scan error: "Containing expression ends prematurely", 6598, 6599 Type "q" in help window to restore its previous buffer. 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displays help instead of inserting INVERTED QUESTION MARK Resent-From: Leo Liu Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 04:25:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17659 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Monnier Cc: Eric Hanchrow , 17659@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 17659-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17659.14031518531693 (code B ref 17659); Thu, 19 Jun 2014 04:25:01 +0000 Received: (at 17659) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jun 2014 04:24:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52341 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WxTtU-0000RE-Ca for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 00:24:12 -0400 Received: from mail-pd0-f178.google.com ([209.85.192.178]:64196) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WxTtR-0000R0-KD for 17659@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 00:24:10 -0400 Received: by mail-pd0-f178.google.com with SMTP id r10so1395583pdi.37 for <17659@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 21:24:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:face:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=72nXtZWuBo3uIy2UCwgrqOWJqh72o+s/AK/5HJ/TDZI=; b=ujZuh2+/4x8+HiTD6weMCT6f4DsTt//oeCZq8CxQ9Nt31xNoXvx2nBaVSrrnVUf5IP QvXkgX75GQ6mjZYHiv5W7fiGweTvkyYpbOpHP4Zik0BLJynLTEYTVChG9LEoRHWI1uZK QcF1tr3Xc/RwFrisTxOAll9hMxsZ3uMF6ciUKQSki0yI6S0+AXg39Y5E+n0J1ipwIR5g jJVngJ+gDQGxAt+SR8KyxWu8gM6unbpQL6jw2cbUl8KsoFo075ndjPkR0FL3CvRe+7DO X6giYBEPETUODCMZraiDpvxF77NRkj/7D1VQDWIKBOjEa0ovn51kSxRQVE41te/36spc U6Yw== X-Received: by 10.66.161.4 with SMTP id xo4mr2612286pab.36.1403151843687; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 21:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fortuna ([221.222.152.215]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id tr2sm20226543pab.26.2014.06.18.21.24.00 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 18 Jun 2014 21:24:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Leo Liu References: Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoAgMAAADxkFD+AAAADFBMVEUvT09qWs3/pQD///+J kUVcAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB9cBBwMLOd3veKQA AACuSURBVBjTldE9CgIxEAXgB+lEyFUC2wo5ikdZ8DSypxhMY7H9VuIVwlqkGRgnm59VsHGafIQ3 CZlAtmKIRaHETgYa12lqvEsPYKf8wXHsPGfqPaUM0g9aJPKFXkmNQmSDqwzz4Fpgpz+6WAPY2z5o uPJJpu0uypcl4nyCibMLQ8lCiVjayLoQvw5LsVKQuHPRR958HZbOcVsKeepcLxpByjycGvnKmY+c MBvrtyjfe0vmuLvdq/kAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 12:23:57 +0800 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 18 Jun 2014 23:33:11 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (CentOS 6.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On 2014-06-18 23:33 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > BTW, maybe it was obvious to someone, but it wasn't to me, so I'll > mention that this is a regression w.r.t 24.3 and it is caused by the > change documented in NEWS: > > *** The key `?' now describes prefix bindings, like `C-h'. There were some consequences that weren't obvious at the time of that change. Gladly the dark corners are gone one by one, I mean thanks for the fix. Leo From unknown Sat Sep 13 23:19:32 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17659: 24.3.90; C-x 8 ? displays help instead of inserting INVERTED QUESTION MARK Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 13:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17659 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Monnier , Leo Liu Cc: Eric Hanchrow , 17659@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 17659-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17659.140318478928526 (code B ref 17659); Thu, 19 Jun 2014 13:34:02 +0000 Received: (at 17659) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jun 2014 13:33:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52558 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WxcSi-0007Pz-5L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 09:33:08 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:51517) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WxcSd-0007Pa-Ka for 17659@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 09:33:04 -0400 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s5JDWugZ004842 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 19 Jun 2014 13:32:57 GMT Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s5JDWtFt021940 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 19 Jun 2014 13:32:56 GMT Received: from abhmp0020.oracle.com (abhmp0020.oracle.com [141.146.116.26]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s5JDWsDq011554; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 13:32:55 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 06:32:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams References: In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) > > ? is bound in iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map but oddly the ? (help-char) takes > > precedence. Stefan, any idea where to look to fix it? >=20 > BTW, maybe it was obvious to someone, but it wasn't to me, so I'll > mention that this is a regression w.r.t 24.3 and it is caused by the > change documented in NEWS: >=20 > *** The key `?' now describes prefix bindings, like `C-h'. See also bug #16617.