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23.0.60; Can't reach info nodes that aren't in TOC

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Message #5 received at submit <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: David Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
To: emacs-pretest-bug <at> gnu.org
Subject: 23.0.60; Can't reach info nodes that aren't in TOC
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 03:01:27 -0500

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usually do not have translators to read other languages for them.

Your bug report will be posted to the emacs-pretest-bug <at> gnu.org mailing list.

Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug
and the precise symptoms of the bug:

This is arguably a feature request, but it seems so glaring that you
might consider it a bug.  If I'm in an xterm and type `info dbus' I get
a nice info session about emacs/dbus integration.  But there doesn't
seem to be any way to visit the same page from within emacs using
info-mode other than `M-: (info "dbus")'.  This seems needlessly
inconvenient.  `C-u M-x info <RET> dbus <RET>' ought to get me to the
same node if there's no info file named "dbus" in the current working
directory.  Also, there should be some syntax to disambiguate:
`C-u M-x info <RET> :dbus <RET>' maybe

Thanks and regards,
Dave

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-- 
Dave Abrahams
BoostPro Computing
http://www.boostpro.com

Message #10 received at 1761 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: David Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
Cc: 1761 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#1761: 23.0.60; Can't reach info nodes that aren't in TOC
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 10:11:17 +0100

David Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> writes:

> This is arguably a feature request, but it seems so glaring that you
> might consider it a bug.  If I'm in an xterm and type `info dbus' I get
> a nice info session about emacs/dbus integration.  But there doesn't
> seem to be any way to visit the same page from within emacs using
> info-mode other than `M-: (info "dbus")'.  This seems needlessly
> inconvenient.  `C-u M-x info <RET> dbus <RET>' ought to get me to the
> same node if there's no info file named "dbus" in the current working
> directory.  Also, there should be some syntax to disambiguate:
> `C-u M-x info <RET> :dbus <RET>' maybe

When you are in Info mode of Emacs, you can type "g (dbus)". This will
show you the DBus info page, if there is a corresponding file in one of
the directories of `Info-default-directory-list'.

> Thanks and regards,
> Dave

Best regards, Michael.

Message #15 received at submit <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman <at> gmx.net>
To: David Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
Cc: 1761 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-pretest-bug <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#1761: 23.0.60; Can't reach info nodes that aren't in TOC
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 15:48:59 +0100

On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 03:01:27 -0500 David Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> wrote:

> This is arguably a feature request, but it seems so glaring that you
> might consider it a bug.  If I'm in an xterm and type `info dbus' I get
> a nice info session about emacs/dbus integration.  But there doesn't
> seem to be any way to visit the same page from within emacs using
> info-mode other than `M-: (info "dbus")'.  This seems needlessly
> inconvenient.  `C-u M-x info <RET> dbus <RET>' ought to get me to the
> same node if there's no info file named "dbus" in the current working
> directory.  Also, there should be some syntax to disambiguate:
> `C-u M-x info <RET> :dbus <RET>' maybe

I also wanted something like that, so I wrote this as a start:

(defun srb-info ()
  "Enter Info at the Info file the user chooses, tabbing for completion.
If you type parentheses around the Info file name and then type a
node name, e.g. `(emacs)Buffers', then Info enters the file at
that node (completion for nodes below the file level is not
provided)."
  (interactive)
  (require 'info)
  (let (files idx info-files info-file)
    (dolist (d Info-default-directory-list files)
      (when (file-readable-p d)
	(setq files (cons (directory-files d) files))))
    (setq files (append (car files) (cadr files)))
    (dolist (f files)
      (setq idx (string-match "\\." f))
      (setq info-files (cons (substring f 0 idx) info-files)))
    (dolist (f info-files)
      (when (string-match "-[1-9][0-9]?$" f)
	(setq info-files (delete f info-files))))
    (setq info-file (completing-read "Info file name: " info-files))
    (unless (string-match "^\([^ ]+\)" info-file)
      (setq info-file (concat "(" info-file ")")))
    (Info-goto-node info-file)))

Steve Berman

Message #27 received at submit <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org>
To: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman <at> gmx.net>
Cc: 1761 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, David Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>,
        emacs-pretest-bug <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#1761: 23.0.60; Can't reach info nodes that aren't in TOC
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:06:38 +0200

>> This is arguably a feature request, but it seems so glaring that you
>> might consider it a bug.  If I'm in an xterm and type `info dbus' I get
>> a nice info session about emacs/dbus integration.  But there doesn't
>> seem to be any way to visit the same page from within emacs using
>> info-mode other than `M-: (info "dbus")'.  This seems needlessly
>> inconvenient.  `C-u M-x info <RET> dbus <RET>' ought to get me to the
>> same node if there's no info file named "dbus" in the current working
>> directory.  Also, there should be some syntax to disambiguate:
>> `C-u M-x info <RET> :dbus <RET>' maybe
>
> I also wanted something like that, so I wrote this as a start:

But "g (dbus)" already can complete on a file name when point is located
after the opening parenthesis.

-- 
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/

Message #37 received at submit <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman <at> gmx.net>
To: Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org>
Cc: 1761 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, David Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>,
        emacs-pretest-bug <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#1761: 23.0.60; Can't reach info nodes that aren't in TOC
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:17:39 +0100

On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:06:38 +0200 Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org> wrote:

>>> This is arguably a feature request, but it seems so glaring that you
>>> might consider it a bug.  If I'm in an xterm and type `info dbus' I get
>>> a nice info session about emacs/dbus integration.  But there doesn't
>>> seem to be any way to visit the same page from within emacs using
>>> info-mode other than `M-: (info "dbus")'.  This seems needlessly
>>> inconvenient.  `C-u M-x info <RET> dbus <RET>' ought to get me to the
>>> same node if there's no info file named "dbus" in the current working
>>> directory.  Also, there should be some syntax to disambiguate:
>>> `C-u M-x info <RET> :dbus <RET>' maybe
>>
>> I also wanted something like that, so I wrote this as a start:
>
> But "g (dbus)" already can complete on a file name when point is located
> after the opening parenthesis.

From within Info, yes, but the purpose of the function I wrote (and what
I understood the OP to be requesting) is to open any info file with a
single command invocation when you're not in Info mode.

Steve Berman

Message #47 received at submit <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: David Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
To: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman <at> gmx.net>
Cc: Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org>, 1761 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
        emacs-pretest-bug <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#1761: 23.0.60; Can't reach info nodes that aren't in TOC
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:48:21 -0500

on Tue Jan 06 2009, Stephen Berman <stephen.berman-AT-gmx.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:06:38 +0200 Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org> wrote:
>
>>>> This is arguably a feature request, but it seems so glaring that you
>>>> might consider it a bug.  If I'm in an xterm and type `info dbus' I get
>>>> a nice info session about emacs/dbus integration.  But there doesn't
>>>> seem to be any way to visit the same page from within emacs using
>>>> info-mode other than `M-: (info "dbus")'.  This seems needlessly
>>>> inconvenient.  `C-u M-x info <RET> dbus <RET>' ought to get me to the
>>>> same node if there's no info file named "dbus" in the current working
>>>> directory.  Also, there should be some syntax to disambiguate:
>>>> `C-u M-x info <RET> :dbus <RET>' maybe
>>>
>>> I also wanted something like that, so I wrote this as a start:
>>
>> But "g (dbus)" already can complete on a file name when point is located
>> after the opening parenthesis.
>
>>From within Info, yes, but the purpose of the function I wrote (and what
> I understood the OP to be requesting) is to open any info file with a
> single command invocation when you're not in Info mode.

That's exactly right.  It's a very odd that I can type "info foo" at the
shell command-line and get what I want, but Emacs makes me look at the
entire info index before I can tell it that I'm really interested in a
section that isn't in the index.

-- 
Dave Abrahams
BoostPro Computing
http://www.boostpro.com

Message #57 received at 1761-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: 1761-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#1761: 23.0.60; Can't reach info nodes that aren't in TOC
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:42:32 -0500

Version: 24.1

David Abrahams wrote:

> This is arguably a feature request, but it seems so glaring that you
> might consider it a bug.  If I'm in an xterm and type `info dbus' I get
> a nice info session about emacs/dbus integration.  But there doesn't
> seem to be any way to visit the same page from within emacs using
> info-mode other than `M-: (info "dbus")'.  This seems needlessly
> inconvenient. 

Now you can use

M-x info-display-manual RET dbus RET

Message #60 received at 1761 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
To: 1761 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: rgm <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#1761: 23.0.60; Can't reach info nodes that aren't in TOC
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:52:15 +0100

Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> writes:

> Version: 24.1
>
> David Abrahams wrote:
>
>> This is arguably a feature request, but it seems so glaring that you
>> might consider it a bug.  If I'm in an xterm and type `info dbus' I get
>> a nice info session about emacs/dbus integration.  But there doesn't
>> seem to be any way to visit the same page from within emacs using
>> info-mode other than `M-: (info "dbus")'.  This seems needlessly
>> inconvenient. 
>
> Now you can use
>
> M-x info-display-manual RET dbus RET

You can also use g (dbus) in any info buffer.

Andreas.

-- 
Andreas Schwab, schwab <at> linux-m68k.org
GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756  01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5
"And now for something completely different."

Message #63 received at 1761 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
Cc: 1761 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#1761: 23.0.60; Can't reach info nodes that aren't in TOC
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:33:39 +0200

> From: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:52:15 +0100
> 
> Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > Version: 24.1
> >
> > David Abrahams wrote:
> >
> >> This is arguably a feature request, but it seems so glaring that you
> >> might consider it a bug.  If I'm in an xterm and type `info dbus' I get
> >> a nice info session about emacs/dbus integration.  But there doesn't
> >> seem to be any way to visit the same page from within emacs using
> >> info-mode other than `M-: (info "dbus")'.  This seems needlessly
> >> inconvenient. 
> >
> > Now you can use
> >
> > M-x info-display-manual RET dbus RET
> 
> You can also use g (dbus) in any info buffer.

"g (dbus)" loads the dbus manual into the current info buffer, which
means you lose the previous manual that was loaded there.
info-display-manual doesn't have that problem.

Message #66 received at 1761 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 1761 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#1761: 23.0.60; Can't reach info nodes that aren't in TOC
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:08:16 +0100

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> "g (dbus)" loads the dbus manual into the current info buffer, which
> means you lose the previous manual that was loaded there.

l will go back there, though.

Andreas.

-- 
Andreas Schwab, schwab <at> linux-m68k.org
GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756  01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5
"And now for something completely different."

Message #69 received at 1761 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
Cc: 1761 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#1761: 23.0.60; Can't reach info nodes that aren't in TOC
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:27:07 +0200

> From: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
> Cc: 1761 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:08:16 +0100
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > "g (dbus)" loads the dbus manual into the current info buffer, which
> > means you lose the previous manual that was loaded there.
> 
> l will go back there, though.

True.  But in my workflow, I want all the manuals I need to be
available simultaneously, so they can be displayed side by side when I
need that.  YMMV, of course.

Message #72 received at 1761 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 1761 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#1761: 23.0.60; Can't reach info nodes that aren't in TOC
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:57:54 +0100

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> True.  But in my workflow, I want all the manuals I need to be
> available simultaneously, so they can be displayed side by side when I
> need that.  YMMV, of course.

This is apparently irrelevant to the OP.

Andreas.

-- 
Andreas Schwab, schwab <at> linux-m68k.org
GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756  01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5
"And now for something completely different."

Message #75 received at 1761 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Juri Linkov <juri <at> jurta.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 1761 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
Subject: Re: bug#1761: 23.0.60; Can't reach info nodes that aren't in TOC
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 23:20:28 +0200

>> > "g (dbus)" loads the dbus manual into the current info buffer, which
>> > means you lose the previous manual that was loaded there.
>>
>> l will go back there, though.
>
> True.  But in my workflow, I want all the manuals I need to be
> available simultaneously, so they can be displayed side by side when I
> need that.  YMMV, of course.

Before `g (dbus)' you can type `M-n' (`clone-buffer').

Or type `C-u g (dbus)' and it will display a new Info buffer
with the name "*info-(dbus)*".

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