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A couple of suggestions for etc/TODO

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From: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
To: bug-emacs <bug-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: A couple of suggestions for etc/TODO
Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 21:05:30 +0100

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1. ECB is now part of CEDET, which in turn is installed in Emacs, so it can
be removed from the list of packages to install (search for "ECB").

2. The suggestion for "Save undo information" could say to use undo-tree,
which already does that. According to undo-tree.el, it's already copyright
the FSF, but it also says it's part of Emacs, which is surely false. The
author is Toby Cubitt <toby-undo-tree <at> dr-qubit.org>, and undo-tree's
upstream is at http://www.dr-qubit.org/git/undo-tree.git

I can make these changes if they're deemed apt.

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Message #8 received at 17581 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
Cc: 17581 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#17581: A couple of suggestions for etc/TODO
Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 16:46:41 -0400

> 1. ECB is now part of CEDET, which in turn is installed in Emacs, so it can
> be removed from the list of packages to install (search for "ECB").

AFAICT ECB is not yet in Emacs.  Maybe it's just a matter of sync'ing
with the upstream CEDET, in which case, I suggest we try and sync ASAP
and then we can remove this entry indeed.

> 2. The suggestion for "Save undo information" could say to use undo-tree,
> which already does that.

Sounds good.

> According to undo-tree.el, it's already copyright the FSF, but it also
> says it's part of Emacs, which is surely false.

`undo-tree' is in GNU ELPA, and GNU ELPA packages are kind of half-way
between being part of Emacs and not being part of it (e.g. for copyright
purposes we consider them part of Emacs, i.e. a copyright assignment for
Emacs changes is accepted as covering changes in GNU ELPA).

So some packages in GNU ELPA say "part of Emacs", others say "not part
of Emacs", and I think they're both right and wrong.


        Stefan

Message #11 received at 17581 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: David Engster <deng <at> randomsample.de>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 17581 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
Subject: Re: bug#17581: A couple of suggestions for etc/TODO
Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 23:00:22 +0200

Stefan Monnier writes:
>> 1. ECB is now part of CEDET, which in turn is installed in Emacs, so it can
>> be removed from the list of packages to install (search for "ECB").
>
> AFAICT ECB is not yet in Emacs.  Maybe it's just a matter of sync'ing
> with the upstream CEDET, in which case, I suggest we try and sync ASAP
> and then we can remove this entry indeed.

No, ECB is not part of CEDET.

-David

Message #14 received at 17581 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Reuben Thomas <rrt <at> sc3d.org>
To: David Engster <deng <at> randomsample.de>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>, 17581 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#17581: A couple of suggestions for etc/TODO
Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 13:57:46 +0100

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On 24 May 2014 22:00, David Engster <deng <at> randomsample.de> wrote:

> Stefan Monnier writes:
> >> 1. ECB is now part of CEDET, which in turn is installed in Emacs, so it
> can
> >> be removed from the list of packages to install (search for "ECB").
> >
> > AFAICT ECB is not yet in Emacs.  Maybe it's just a matter of sync'ing
> > with the upstream CEDET, in which case, I suggest we try and sync ASAP
> > and then we can remove this entry indeed.
>
> No, ECB is not part of CEDET.


Thanks, Stefan and David. I've added a note about undo-tree to etc/TODO;
this bug can be closed.

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Message #19 received at 17581-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: 17581-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#17581: A couple of suggestions for etc/TODO
Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 09:32:17 -0400

> Thanks, Stefan and David. I've added a note about undo-tree to etc/TODO;
> this bug can be closed.

Done, thanks,


        Stefan

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