From unknown Fri Aug 15 02:03:02 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#17463 <17463@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#17463 <17463@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: cc-langs loaded at runtime Reply-To: bug#17463 <17463@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 09:03:02 +0000 retitle 17463 cc-langs loaded at runtime reassign 17463 emacs,cc-mode submitter 17463 Shigeru Fukaya severity 17463 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun May 11 09:49:58 2014 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 May 2014 13:49:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58846 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WjU8b-0002kr-Pp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 May 2014 09:49:58 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42347) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WjU8Y-0002ke-TU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 May 2014 09:49:55 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WjU8K-0008Op-KL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 May 2014 09:49:49 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:40714) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WjU8K-0008Ol-H3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 May 2014 09:49:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44047) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WjU8B-0002hR-G5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 May 2014 09:49:40 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WjU82-0008OG-FT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 May 2014 09:49:31 -0400 Received: from mail-pa0-x234.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::234]:33377) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WjU82-0008O9-7v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 11 May 2014 09:49:22 -0400 Received: by mail-pa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id fa1so2308217pad.25 for ; Sun, 11 May 2014 06:49:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=/7bqhWPt5LykVet2Aks2H/RPLjrb/SNTxdSj1b4Mbqc=; b=1JjwCX9xqY4iOZ+kmUjwtn3QtyhnjCCKKvV1lxNzemYY86yEeFAxs9Hbfu9pcLBrwA KyJE9EoATSaSSRaftFwODLg+lOSlvML9W9zLGkKYy2xWzVuAZoSHFF8FeYnzGU54Oslt Qcm6914UlKYDH21u1mvzoK5XDVfZO593bJEcaEXq0EEMi4PB3aMbISGRj748ybnDo20P 3oTZ50klDigkWzR29RlAK3rOAkhOku3sqBgw4SuX+g2ociTb66Pjjruy+324o7/ZV10a e6Tpre/IWOODbuJ9Hqw6CPfHSU2xpYmYOE7rHCj636hK8AkC48KZ27t82fF83bwD172R E1+A== X-Received: by 10.66.189.106 with SMTP id gh10mr44473872pac.31.1399816160343; Sun, 11 May 2014 06:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gmail.com (115x125x38x6.ap115.ftth.ucom.ne.jp. [115.125.38.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id xk3sm17672662pbb.65.2014.05.11.06.49.18 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 11 May 2014 06:49:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Shigeru Fukaya To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.3.90; invoking c-mode always loads `cl' Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 22:49:25 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: HidemaruMail 6.24 (WinNT,602) Message-Id: <21CF6D1FD20BA4shigeru.fukaya@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) c-mode loads `cc-langs' and it always, as it is execution time, loads `cl'. I suspect in cc-langs (cc-external-require 'cl) sholud be simply changed to (eval-when-compile 'cl) as in cc-defs. -- Shigeru From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun May 11 14:18:29 2014 Received: (at 17463) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 May 2014 18:18:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59547 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WjYKT-0002qY-5d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 May 2014 14:18:29 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:49432 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WjYKQ-0002qQ-Mo for 17463@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 May 2014 14:18:27 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WjYKP-0007pi-OD; Sun, 11 May 2014 14:18:25 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Shigeru Fukaya Subject: Re: bug#17463: 24.3.90; invoking c-mode always loads `cl' References: <21CF6D1FD20BA4shigeru.fukaya@gmail.com> X-Spook: 64 Vauxhall Cross Abu Ghraib FTS2000 tempest anarchy X-Ran: ~V^o3,=.^L8W%LwS-sT\o'"o<_nexXVi6NBRs?lWK]O/V:so`tJ6~6du%Jx{@[9>i}ZSiG X-Hue: white X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 14:18:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: <21CF6D1FD20BA4shigeru.fukaya@gmail.com> (Shigeru Fukaya's message of "Sun, 11 May 2014 22:49:25 +0900") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17463 Cc: 17463@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) Shigeru Fukaya wrote: > c-mode loads `cc-langs' and it always, as it is execution time, loads `cl'. > I suspect in cc-langs > > (cc-external-require 'cl) > > sholud be simply changed to > > (eval-when-compile 'cl) It would be great if we were allowed to replace cc-bytecomp more generally with standard syntax, as proposed in http://debbugs.gnu.org/14496 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun May 11 16:08:33 2014 Received: (at 17463) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 May 2014 20:08:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59671 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wja2y-00060r-Cp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 May 2014 16:08:32 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:50964 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wja2u-00060i-Uf for 17463@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 May 2014 16:08:29 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wja2t-0004no-Uf; Sun, 11 May 2014 16:08:27 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Shigeru Fukaya Subject: Re: bug#17463: 24.3.90; invoking c-mode always loads `cl' References: <21CF6D1FD20BA4shigeru.fukaya@gmail.com> X-Spook: mania propaganda JSOFC3IP Adriatic Arnett Albanian X-Ran: B\yu|I5BFoa(];/:4XoWY!;Ui*4jRNb2^%9=\b`Y\utaf)vA%&$2`X-kuZD4LVVy?xB#!D X-Hue: green X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 16:08:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Sun, 11 May 2014 14:18:25 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17463 Cc: 17463@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) Glenn Morris wrote: > Shigeru Fukaya wrote: > >> c-mode loads `cc-langs' and it always, as it is execution time, loads `cl'. >> I suspect in cc-langs >> >> (cc-external-require 'cl) >> >> sholud be simply changed to >> >> (eval-when-compile 'cl) Anyway, I don't think that's the real cause. emacs -Q -f c-mode is not supposed to load cc-langs, yet it does since 24.3. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun May 11 16:27:50 2014 Received: (at 17463) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 May 2014 20:27:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59689 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WjaLd-0006Wy-03 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 May 2014 16:27:49 -0400 Received: from mail-pa0-f48.google.com ([209.85.220.48]:62656) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WjaLa-0006Wc-Jh for 17463@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 May 2014 16:27:47 -0400 Received: by mail-pa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id rd3so6832790pab.7 for <17463@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 11 May 2014 13:27:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:references:message-id; bh=aWMwg961YhPTlArWje1f3YAYZWYAZsbF+vTzefpQf5g=; b=WMAFK9CxgsI+wQc+1c9LNA8rHEho8YbH0vRUbYNjP6qJbo9+kW7olzUKV5rqLPKO0p bu0QC+TKyIggpZRNwHOO/O8cCeVG0U/dCRd9obxyuorDlGadMgojyFUlm9S/CuZeNKS7 x9EUY8b695zUB1kO8MnSsV3/DzPourJGQGKkld6DLBJkXlZyHn7uWSJRVMmCuLk1xGud 3nw12TQR+gsyvmMTHQ48XEiD8oKVr9jKuBI1RXjAhQPmfH7nt9cqUhswQe6SBWAC55CV YXrriT58N4LG6YvjsCagkfd3AurrMZie2NcqAOFpk4WLFcgNOKRCuQ4hl1oJzOHxDU0A GtCg== X-Received: by 10.66.253.170 with SMTP id ab10mr47115562pad.53.1399840060383; Sun, 11 May 2014 13:27:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gmail.com (115x125x38x6.ap115.ftth.ucom.ne.jp. [115.125.38.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id kl1sm18953544pbd.73.2014.05.11.13.27.38 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 11 May 2014 13:27:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Shigeru Fukaya To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#17463: 24.3.90; invoking c-mode always loads `cl' Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 05:27:52 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: HidemaruMail 6.24 (WinNT,602) In-Reply-To: References: <21CF6D1FD20BA4shigeru.fukaya@gmail.com> Message-Id: <24CF6D577BA285shigeru.fukaya@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17463 Cc: 17463@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) >>> c-mode loads `cc-langs' and it always, as it is execution time, loads `cl'. >>> I suspect in cc-langs >>> >>> (cc-external-require 'cl) >>> >>> sholud be simply changed to >>> >>> (eval-when-compile 'cl) > >Anyway, I don't think that's the real cause. > >emacs -Q -f c-mode > >is not supposed to load cc-langs, yet it does since 24.3. I don't know well the real cause, at least in my environments (MingW 24.3, Cygwin 24.4), (list (featurep 'cl) (featurep 'cc-langs)) return (t t) after "emacs -Q -f c-mode". -- Shigeru From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun May 11 17:00:02 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 May 2014 21:00:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59732 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wjaqn-0007Ra-85 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 May 2014 17:00:01 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:22023) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wjaqk-0007RF-E8 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 May 2014 16:59:59 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArUGAIDvNVMXW5vY/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSr0vgw6BFxd0giYBAQRWMws0EhQYDYgw0hkXjwEWhCIEqwODTCE X-IPAS-Result: ArUGAIDvNVMXW5vY/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSr0vgw6BFxd0giYBAQRWMws0EhQYDYgw0hkXjwEWhCIEqwODTCE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="62365727" Received: from 23-91-155-216.cpe.pppoe.ca (HELO pastel.home) ([23.91.155.216]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 11 May 2014 16:59:52 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id F22D860094; Sun, 11 May 2014 16:59:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#17463: 24.3.90; invoking c-mode always loads `cl' Message-ID: References: <21CF6D1FD20BA4shigeru.fukaya@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 16:59:51 -0400 In-Reply-To: <21CF6D1FD20BA4shigeru.fukaya@gmail.com> (Shigeru Fukaya's message of "Sun, 11 May 2014 22:49:25 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) severity 17463 important thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 13 13:59:35 2014 Received: (at 17463) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 May 2014 17:59:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34251 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WkGzG-00051h-HR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 13:59:34 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:43429 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WkGzE-00051U-2A for 17463@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 13:59:32 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WkGzD-0006Lk-3J; Tue, 13 May 2014 13:59:31 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#17463: 24.3.90; invoking c-mode always loads `cl' References: <21CF6D1FD20BA4shigeru.fukaya@gmail.com> <24CF6D577BA285shigeru.fukaya@gmail.com> X-Spook: Cocaine PET CISU DRM Leitrim Panama 9/11 cryptanalysis X-Ran: a}9F\g8epWJyicT{mheKK~5pEr]b!O (Shigeru Fukaya's message of "Mon, 12 May 2014 05:27:52 +0900") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17463 Cc: 17463@debbugs.gnu.org, Shigeru Fukaya X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) I think I bisected this to somewhere around r108513 on the current emacs-24 branch. These are changes related to macro expansion. 108512 is ok (emacs -Q -f c-mode does not load cc-langs) 108513 fails to build 108514 build infloops? 108515 build infloops? 108516 emacs -Q -f c-mode loads cc-langs cc-mode tries to do different things in compiled code and uncompiled code (yay; eg c-make-init-lang-vars-fun, which is what I think is loading cc-langs). Perhaps we are getting the wrong version. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jun 14 19:55:00 2014 Received: (at 17463) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jun 2014 23:55:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48010 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wvxml-0001Ze-8L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2014 19:54:59 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:52154 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wvxmi-0001ZV-Mc for 17463@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2014 19:54:57 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wvxmg-0000sF-Q2; Sat, 14 Jun 2014 19:54:54 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#17463: 24.3.90; invoking c-mode always loads `cl' References: <21CF6D1FD20BA4shigeru.fukaya@gmail.com> <24CF6D577BA285shigeru.fukaya@gmail.com> X-Spook: mailbomb Agfa enforcers Albania warfare Montenegro AVIP X-Ran: fr?"yY{C.e8/B3^"?9}xM2N$0Aw{lF[r]:-4:c>V=u9AVIBDL:l#;g]{52 X-Hue: green X-Attribution: GM Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 19:54:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 13 May 2014 13:59:30 -0400") Message-ID: <9pk38jxd0x.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17463 Cc: 17463@debbugs.gnu.org, Shigeru Fukaya X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) The only things cc-langs uses from cl are delete-duplicates (perhaps delete-dups would do) and mapcan (perhaps apply+mapcar would do). I simply replaced them by their cl- versions. Figuring out why cc-langs is loaded at runtime is beyond me. I'll leave this aspect open as a cc-mode bug of normal priority. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jun 14 19:55:29 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jun 2014 23:55:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48014 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WvxnF-0001ar-2r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2014 19:55:29 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:52169 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WvxnC-0001aj-JX for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2014 19:55:27 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WvxnC-0001J6-Db for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2014 19:55:26 -0400 Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 19:55:26 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 17463 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) retitle 17463 cc-langs loaded at runtime severity 17463 normal From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 10 17:55:28 2014 Received: (at 17463-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Sep 2014 21:55:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37075 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XRprL-0003Yw-GB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:55:27 -0400 Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:63369 helo=mail.muc.de) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XRprH-0003Yl-Jx for 17463-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:55:24 -0400 Received: (qmail 99338 invoked by uid 3782); 10 Sep 2014 21:55:22 -0000 Received: from acm.muc.de (pD9518F48.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.81.143.72]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 23:55:21 +0200 Received: (qmail 14296 invoked by uid 1000); 10 Sep 2014 21:50:02 -0000 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:50:02 +0000 To: 17463-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#17463: 24.3.90; invoking c-mode always loads `cl' Message-ID: <20140910215002.GA12333@acm.acm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) From: Alan Mackenzie X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-Spam-Score: -3.2 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17463-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.2 (---) Bug fixed (in revision #117860). -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany). 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