From unknown Sat Jun 14 02:05:46 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#17411 <17411@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#17411 <17411@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.4.50; emacs_backtrace.txt Reply-To: bug#17411 <17411@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2025 09:05:46 +0000 retitle 17411 24.4.50; emacs_backtrace.txt reassign 17411 emacs submitter 17411 Drew Adams severity 17411 normal tag 17411 moreinfo thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 05 16:08:58 2014 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 May 2014 20:08:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51975 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WhPC5-0007sE-EW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 May 2014 16:08:57 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48535) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WhPC1-0007rv-T3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 May 2014 16:08:55 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WhPBm-0001LB-Al for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 May 2014 16:08:48 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:44627) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WhPBm-0001L4-7a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 May 2014 16:08:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50200) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WhPBd-0000c3-H0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 May 2014 16:08:38 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WhPBU-0001I9-Pa for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 May 2014 16:08:29 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:41578) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WhPBU-0001I1-Io for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 May 2014 16:08:20 -0400 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s45K8IM2031297 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 5 May 2014 20:08:19 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s45K8IID015329 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 May 2014 20:08:18 GMT Received: from abhmp0002.oracle.com (abhmp0002.oracle.com [141.146.116.8]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s45K8Hl5005146 for ; Mon, 5 May 2014 20:08:17 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4ed285be-ccc5-4df6-90f8-5dfd88f52d21@default> Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 13:08:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.4.50; emacs_backtrace.txt X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). 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??:0 w32_backtrace at w32fns.c:8476 emacs_abort at w32fns.c:8508 terminate_due_to_signal at emacs.c:382 die at alloc.c:6955 balance_an_interval at intervals.c:436 balance_intervals_internal at intervals.c:509 balance_intervals_internal at intervals.c:506 balance_intervals_internal at intervals.c:506 balance_intervals_internal at intervals.c:506 balance_intervals_internal at intervals.c:506 balance_intervals_internal at intervals.c:508 balance_intervals_internal at intervals.c:506 balance_intervals_internal at intervals.c:508 balance_intervals_internal at intervals.c:506 balance_intervals_internal at intervals.c:506 balance_intervals_internal at intervals.c:508 balance_intervals at intervals.c:517 sweep_buffers at alloc.c:6751 gc_sweep at alloc.c:6772 Fgarbage_collect at alloc.c:5680 maybe_gc at lisp.h:4527 exec_byte_code at bytecode.c:961 funcall_lambda at eval.c:3049 Ffuncall at eval.c:2864 call0 at eval.c:2599 safe_run_hooks_1 at keyboard.c:1872 internal_condition_case at eval.c:1354 safe_run_hook_funcall at keyboard.c:1927 run_hook_with_args at eval.c:2551 safe_run_hooks at keyboard.c:1944 update_menu_bar at xdisp.c:11733 prepare_menu_bars at xdisp.c:11634 redisplay_internal at xdisp.c:13437 redisplay at xdisp.c:13056 read_char at keyboard.c:2569 read_key_sequence at keyboard.c:9081 command_loop_1 at keyboard.c:1449 internal_condition_case at eval.c:1354 command_loop_2 at keyboard.c:1174 internal_catch at eval.c:1118 command_loop at keyboard.c:1153 recursive_edit_1 at keyboard.c:777 Frecursive_edit at keyboard.c:845 main at emacs.c:1654 ?? at crt1.c:0 ?? ??:0 ?? ??:0 ?? ??:0 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun May 11 22:38:16 2014 Received: (at 17411) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 May 2014 02:38:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59920 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wjg87-0003Ln-TN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 May 2014 22:38:16 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:62145) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wjg81-0003LE-Im for 17411@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 May 2014 22:38:11 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N5F00H00WK5SF00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 17411@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 May 2014 05:38:02 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N5F00H3IWNEFB80@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Mon, 12 May 2014 05:38:02 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 05:37:52 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#17411: 24.4.50; emacs_backtrace.txt In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Juanma Barranquero Message-id: <83siofu3gf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4ed285be-ccc5-4df6-90f8-5dfd88f52d21@default> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17411 Cc: 17411@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Juanma Barranquero > Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 17:20:13 +0200 > Cc: 17411@debbugs.gnu.org > > w32_backtrace at w32fns.c:8476 > emacs_abort at w32fns.c:8508 > terminate_due_to_signal at emacs.c:382 > die at alloc.c:6955 > balance_an_interval at intervals.c:436 > balance_intervals_internal at intervals.c:509 > balance_intervals_internal at intervals.c:506 > balance_intervals_internal at intervals.c:506 > balance_intervals_internal at intervals.c:506 > balance_intervals_internal at intervals.c:506 > balance_intervals_internal at intervals.c:508 > balance_intervals_internal at intervals.c:506 > balance_intervals_internal at intervals.c:508 > balance_intervals_internal at intervals.c:506 > balance_intervals_internal at intervals.c:506 > balance_intervals_internal at intervals.c:508 > balance_intervals at intervals.c:517 > sweep_buffers at alloc.c:6751 > gc_sweep at alloc.c:6772 > Fgarbage_collect at alloc.c:5680 > maybe_gc at lisp.h:4527 A duplicate of 17340. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun May 11 22:38:41 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 May 2014 02:38:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59924 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wjg8W-0003Mz-QX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 May 2014 22:38:41 -0400 Received: from mtaout27.012.net.il ([80.179.55.183]:38997) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wjg8U-0003Mh-QE for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 May 2014 22:38:39 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout27.012.net.il by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N5F00A00W988B00@mtaout27.012.net.il> for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 May 2014 05:35:11 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N5F001A4WIM9380@mtaout27.012.net.il> for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 May 2014 05:35:11 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 05:38:21 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#17411: 24.4.50; emacs_backtrace.txt In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Message-id: <83r43zu3fm.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4ed285be-ccc5-4df6-90f8-5dfd88f52d21@default> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) merge 17411 17340 thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun May 11 23:26:13 2014 Received: (at 17411) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 May 2014 03:26:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59949 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WjgsW-00062p-En for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 May 2014 23:26:12 -0400 Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:47356) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WjgsT-00062g-Tc for 17411@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 May 2014 23:26:10 -0400 Received: from pastel.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id s4C3Q6Oo014362; Sun, 11 May 2014 23:26:07 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 6B979601D9; Sun, 11 May 2014 23:26:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#17411: 24.4.50; emacs_backtrace.txt Message-ID: References: <4ed285be-ccc5-4df6-90f8-5dfd88f52d21@default> <83siofu3gf.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 23:26:06 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83siofu3gf.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 12 May 2014 05:37:52 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4939=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9378 : core <4939> : inlines <853> : streams <1180103> : uri <1754433> X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17411 Cc: Juanma Barranquero , 17411@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) >> balance_an_interval at intervals.c:436 >> balance_intervals_internal at intervals.c:509 >> balance_intervals_internal at intervals.c:506 > A duplicate of 17340. Indeed. Both seemed to fail the "eassert (LENGTH (i) > 0);" and right in the middle of a tree. I tried to add this assertion everywhere where the length of an interval can be changed, so we should never bump into a case like the above, because such a non-positive length should have been caught by an assertion earlier. Evidence shows that I missed some cases, tho. I'd be interested to see the stack trace before we enter GC (in case it's in the middle of some interval manipulation, maybe?). It might also be interesting to look at `i' to see whether it's hopelessly messed up, or if it looks "incorrect but sanish". Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 12 09:22:18 2014 Received: (at 17411) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 May 2014 13:22:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60273 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WjqBO-0002zf-7E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 May 2014 09:22:18 -0400 Received: from mtaout26.012.net.il ([80.179.55.182]:35137) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WjqBK-0002zO-Ei for 17411@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 May 2014 09:22:16 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout26.012.net.il by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N5G00M00QAWVW00@mtaout26.012.net.il> for 17411@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 May 2014 16:19:13 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N5G00HLBQC0CK50@mtaout26.012.net.il>; Mon, 12 May 2014 16:19:13 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 16:21:59 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#17411: 24.4.50; emacs_backtrace.txt In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Stefan Monnier Message-id: <83ppjjt9mw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4ed285be-ccc5-4df6-90f8-5dfd88f52d21@default> <83siofu3gf.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17411 Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 17411@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Juanma Barranquero , 17411@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 23:26:06 -0400 > > >> balance_an_interval at intervals.c:436 > >> balance_intervals_internal at intervals.c:509 > >> balance_intervals_internal at intervals.c:506 > > A duplicate of 17340. > > Indeed. Both seemed to fail the "eassert (LENGTH (i) > 0);" and right > in the middle of a tree. I tried to add this assertion everywhere where the > length of an interval can be changed, so we should never bump into > a case like the above, because such a non-positive length should have > been caught by an assertion earlier. > > Evidence shows that I missed some cases, tho. I'd be interested to see > the stack trace before we enter GC (in case it's in the middle of some > interval manipulation, maybe?). You mean, this one: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=17411#8 > It might also be interesting to look at `i' to see whether it's > hopelessly messed up, or if it looks "incorrect but sanish". I was unable to convince Drew to run Emacs under GDB and leave the crashed session running to allow us ask him to look around in the crashed session. So I think the only practical way of obtaining this information is to add eassert's that will tell you which one is it. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 12 14:19:05 2014 Received: (at 17411) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 May 2014 18:19:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32792 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wjuoa-0004nZ-JZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 May 2014 14:19:04 -0400 Received: from mercure.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.24.67]:37931) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WjuoX-0004nA-Rf for 17411@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 May 2014 14:19:02 -0400 Received: from hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.50]) by mercure.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F6C32C092; Mon, 12 May 2014 14:19:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by hidalgo.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3AEA1E5B8A; Mon, 12 May 2014 14:18:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lechon.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 8907CB40F9; Mon, 12 May 2014 14:18:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#17411: 24.4.50; emacs_backtrace.txt Message-ID: References: <4ed285be-ccc5-4df6-90f8-5dfd88f52d21@default> <83siofu3gf.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppjjt9mw.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 14:18:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83ppjjt9mw.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 12 May 2014 16:21:59 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-2.82, requis 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -2.82, MC_TSTLAST 0.00) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17411 Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 17411@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) >> Evidence shows that I missed some cases, tho. I'd be interested to see >> the stack trace before we enter GC (in case it's in the middle of some >> interval manipulation, maybe?). > You mean, this one: > http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=17411#8 Ah, yes. Sadly, this backtrace seems to say that the breakage doesn't come from running GC in the middle of some interval manipulation. > So I think the only practical way of obtaining this information is to > add eassert's that will tell you which one is it. But I don't know what to add where, at this point. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 12 14:33:24 2014 Received: (at 17411) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 May 2014 18:33:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32812 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wjv2R-0005HN-PL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 May 2014 14:33:23 -0400 Received: from mtaout29.012.net.il ([80.179.55.185]:52831) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wjv2Q-0005H4-Ab for 17411@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 May 2014 14:33:23 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout29.012.net.il by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N5H00E004S1L900@mtaout29.012.net.il> for 17411@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 May 2014 21:34:15 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N5H005V14X2TJ80@mtaout29.012.net.il>; Mon, 12 May 2014 21:34:14 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 21:33:06 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#17411: 24.4.50; emacs_backtrace.txt In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Stefan Monnier Message-id: <83tx8uq23h.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4ed285be-ccc5-4df6-90f8-5dfd88f52d21@default> <83siofu3gf.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppjjt9mw.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17411 Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 17411@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 17411@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 14:18:36 -0400 > > > So I think the only practical way of obtaining this information is to > > add eassert's that will tell you which one is it. > > But I don't know what to add where, at this point. Maybe I misunderstood. You said: > It might also be interesting to look at `i' to see whether it's > hopelessly messed up, or if it looks "incorrect but sanish". So I thought about an eassert that will catch something "hopelessly messed up", for example. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 13 15:32:20 2014 Received: (at 17411) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 May 2014 19:32:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34363 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WkIR2-0007sL-A7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 15:32:20 -0400 Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:33995) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WkIR0-0007s8-0F for 17411@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 15:32:18 -0400 Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id s4DJWEP7008859; Tue, 13 May 2014 15:32:14 -0400 Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 7E967AE173; Tue, 13 May 2014 15:32:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#17411: 24.4.50; emacs_backtrace.txt Message-ID: References: <4ed285be-ccc5-4df6-90f8-5dfd88f52d21@default> <83siofu3gf.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppjjt9mw.fsf@gnu.org> <83tx8uq23h.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 15:32:13 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83tx8uq23h.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 12 May 2014 21:33:06 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4941=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9378 : core <4941> : inlines <862> : streams <1181863> : uri <1755863> X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17411 Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 17411@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) >> > So I think the only practical way of obtaining this information is to >> > add eassert's that will tell you which one is it. >> But I don't know what to add where, at this point. > Maybe I misunderstood. You said: >> It might also be interesting to look at `i' to see whether it's >> hopelessly messed up, or if it looks "incorrect but sanish". > So I thought about an eassert that will catch something "hopelessly > messed up", for example. The "eassert (length (i) > 0)" does catch this case already. We could add another assert which is looser (i.e. one that would not be caught by a "somewhat sane interval with a non-positive length"), but I'm not sure how to formally define "hopelessly messed up". Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 13 15:54:26 2014 Received: (at 17411) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 May 2014 19:54:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34380 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WkImP-0000A6-HJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 15:54:25 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:52680) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WkImL-00009m-T9 for 17411@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 15:54:23 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N5J00I0032RUS00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 17411@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 22:54:14 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N5J00I913AEJU50@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Tue, 13 May 2014 22:54:14 +0300 (IDT) Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 22:54:08 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#17411: 24.4.50; emacs_backtrace.txt In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Stefan Monnier Message-id: <83bnv1pi8v.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4ed285be-ccc5-4df6-90f8-5dfd88f52d21@default> <83siofu3gf.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppjjt9mw.fsf@gnu.org> <83tx8uq23h.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17411 Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 17411@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 17411@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 15:32:13 -0400 > > The "eassert (length (i) > 0)" does catch this case already. We could > add another assert which is looser (i.e. one that would not be caught by > a "somewhat sane interval with a non-positive length"), but I'm not sure > how to formally define "hopelessly messed up". You could display the values on your system in a debugger, and after some time you should have a good idea what isn't messed up. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 13 17:19:57 2014 Received: (at 17411) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 May 2014 21:19:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34424 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WkK7A-0002pG-Iu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 17:19:56 -0400 Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:59414) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WkK77-0002p5-Ri for 17411@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 17:19:54 -0400 Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id s4DLJp7j021866; Tue, 13 May 2014 17:19:51 -0400 Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id DEEF4AE173; Tue, 13 May 2014 17:19:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#17411: 24.4.50; emacs_backtrace.txt Message-ID: References: <4ed285be-ccc5-4df6-90f8-5dfd88f52d21@default> <83siofu3gf.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppjjt9mw.fsf@gnu.org> <83tx8uq23h.fsf@gnu.org> <83bnv1pi8v.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 17:19:50 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83bnv1pi8v.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 13 May 2014 22:54:08 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4941=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9378 : core <4941> : inlines <864> : streams <1181933> : uri <1755930> X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17411 Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 17411@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) >> The "eassert (length (i) > 0)" does catch this case already. We could >> add another assert which is looser (i.e. one that would not be caught by >> a "somewhat sane interval with a non-positive length"), but I'm not sure >> how to formally define "hopelessly messed up". > You could display the values on your system in a debugger, and after > some time you should have a good idea what isn't messed up. The problem is that it's not worth the trouble: knowing if the values are sane or not isn't that interesting, so we'd really want to *see* the values. I'd "fprintf (stderr, ...)", but that wouldn't work under w32 would it? Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 13 22:47:17 2014 Received: (at 17411) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 May 2014 02:47:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34558 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WkPDx-0005ez-D8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 22:47:17 -0400 Received: from mtaout28.012.net.il ([80.179.55.184]:60309) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WkPDu-0005ef-S3 for 17411@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 22:47:15 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout28.012.net.il by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N5J00200LKGNF00@mtaout28.012.net.il> for 17411@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 05:45:23 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N5J00NSSMBNBE50@mtaout28.012.net.il>; Wed, 14 May 2014 05:45:23 +0300 (IDT) Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 05:47:03 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#17411: 24.4.50; emacs_backtrace.txt In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Stefan Monnier Message-id: <837g5poz4o.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4ed285be-ccc5-4df6-90f8-5dfd88f52d21@default> <83siofu3gf.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppjjt9mw.fsf@gnu.org> <83tx8uq23h.fsf@gnu.org> <83bnv1pi8v.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17411 Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 17411@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 17411@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 17:19:50 -0400 > > I'd "fprintf (stderr, ...)", but that wouldn't work under w32 would > it? Not if Emacs was invoked by clicking the desktop icon, which is the usual way, no. Perhaps we should add a feature to write arbitrary text into the emacs_backtrace.txt file, when Emacs crashes. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 13 23:27:19 2014 Received: (at 17411) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 May 2014 03:27:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34570 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WkPqh-0006uY-B2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 23:27:19 -0400 Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:40549) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WkPqe-0006uL-VF for 17411@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 May 2014 23:27:17 -0400 Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id s4E3RELT005566; Tue, 13 May 2014 23:27:14 -0400 Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id EB8B5AE173; Tue, 13 May 2014 23:27:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#17411: 24.4.50; emacs_backtrace.txt Message-ID: References: <4ed285be-ccc5-4df6-90f8-5dfd88f52d21@default> <83siofu3gf.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppjjt9mw.fsf@gnu.org> <83tx8uq23h.fsf@gnu.org> <83bnv1pi8v.fsf@gnu.org> <837g5poz4o.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 23:27:13 -0400 In-Reply-To: <837g5poz4o.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 14 May 2014 05:47:03 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Level: X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0.2 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 2 Rules triggered GEN_SPAM_FEATRE=0.2, RV4941=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9378 : core <4941> : inlines <864> : streams <1182162> : uri <1756149> X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17411 Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 17411@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) > Perhaps we should add a feature to write arbitrary text into the > emacs_backtrace.txt file, when Emacs crashes. In any case, a much better option is to run the thing under a debugger. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 14 10:38:57 2014 Received: (at 17411) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 May 2014 14:38:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35265 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WkaKe-0002Q2-Ft for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 10:38:56 -0400 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:48466) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WkaKZ-0002Pe-GV for 17411@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 10:38:52 -0400 Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s4EEciXH000545 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 14 May 2014 14:38:45 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s4EEchWX001478 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 14 May 2014 14:38:44 GMT Received: from abhmp0020.oracle.com (abhmp0020.oracle.com [141.146.116.26]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s4EEchK2018433; Wed, 14 May 2014 14:38:43 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 07:38:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Monnier Subject: RE: bug#17411: 24.4.50; emacs_backtrace.txt References: <<4ed285be-ccc5-4df6-90f8-5dfd88f52d21@default> <83siofu3gf.fsf@gnu.org>> < <83ppjjt9mw.fsf@gnu.org>> < <83tx8uq23h.fsf@gnu.org>> < <83bnv1pi8v.fsf@gnu.org>> <> <<837g5poz4o.fsf@gnu.org>> In-Reply-To: <<837g5poz4o.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17411 Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 17411@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) > > I'd "fprintf (stderr, ...)", but that wouldn't work under w32 would > > it? >=20 > Not if Emacs was invoked by clicking the desktop icon, which is the > usual way, no. FWIW, I invoke Emacs from a shortcut (on the Desktop) that points to runemacs.exe. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 14 11:21:51 2014 Received: (at 17411) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 May 2014 15:21:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35315 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wkb0A-0003ax-Vr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 11:21:51 -0400 Received: from mtaout27.012.net.il ([80.179.55.183]:36056) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wkb08-0003af-0e for 17411@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 11:21:49 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout27.012.net.il by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N5K00F00L54MG00@mtaout27.012.net.il> for 17411@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2014 18:18:22 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N5K00DMGL6M3O20@mtaout27.012.net.il>; Wed, 14 May 2014 18:18:22 +0300 (IDT) Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 18:21:38 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#17411: 24.4.50; emacs_backtrace.txt In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Drew Adams Message-id: <83y4y4o071.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4ed285be-ccc5-4df6-90f8-5dfd88f52d21@default> <83siofu3gf.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppjjt9mw.fsf@gnu.org> <83tx8uq23h.fsf@gnu.org> <83bnv1pi8v.fsf@gnu.org> <837g5poz4o.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17411 Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, 17411@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 07:38:42 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 17411@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > I'd "fprintf (stderr, ...)", but that wouldn't work under w32 would > > > it? > > > > Not if Emacs was invoked by clicking the desktop icon, which is the > > usual way, no. > > FWIW, I invoke Emacs from a shortcut (on the Desktop) that points to > runemacs.exe. Yes, that's what I meant. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 26 09:17:21 2015 Received: (at 17411) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Dec 2015 14:17:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37256 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aCper-00079Q-A7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 09:17:21 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:45223) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aCpep-00079F-94; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 09:17:19 -0500 Received: from 2.150.58.24.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.58.24] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aCpeT-0008GY-L4; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 15:16:57 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#17411: 24.4.50; emacs_backtrace.txt References: <4ed285be-ccc5-4df6-90f8-5dfd88f52d21@default> <83siofu3gf.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppjjt9mw.fsf@gnu.org> <83tx8uq23h.fsf@gnu.org> <83bnv1pi8v.fsf@gnu.org> <837g5poz4o.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 15:16:56 +0100 In-Reply-To: <837g5poz4o.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 14 May 2014 05:47:03 +0300") Message-ID: <87twn5xpk7.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1aCpeT-0008GY-L4 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1451744218.43722@ediMSgg/b0SjUdAaG+7y2w X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17411 Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 17340@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , 17411@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Stefan Monnier >> Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 17411@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 17:19:50 -0400 >> >> I'd "fprintf (stderr, ...)", but that wouldn't work under w32 would >> it? > > Not if Emacs was invoked by clicking the desktop icon, which is the > usual way, no. > > Perhaps we should add a feature to write arbitrary text into the > emacs_backtrace.txt file, when Emacs crashes. It's unclear what the conclusion was in this report -- whether there was something more to investigate or not... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 26 09:23:38 2015 Received: (at 17411) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Dec 2015 14:23:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37277 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aCpkt-0007Ku-0V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 09:23:38 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59311) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aCpko-0007Kd-3f for 17411@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 09:23:33 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aCpkf-0007sG-9L for 17411@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 09:23:24 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50637) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aCpkf-0007sC-5u; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 09:23:21 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1363 helo=HOME-C4E4A596F7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aCpke-0003He-DW; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 09:23:20 -0500 Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 16:24:05 +0200 Message-Id: <83ege9i8ze.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-reply-to: <87twn5xpk7.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sat, 26 Dec 2015 15:16:56 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#17411: 24.4.50; emacs_backtrace.txt References: <4ed285be-ccc5-4df6-90f8-5dfd88f52d21@default> <83siofu3gf.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppjjt9mw.fsf@gnu.org> <83tx8uq23h.fsf@gnu.org> <83bnv1pi8v.fsf@gnu.org> <837g5poz4o.fsf@gnu.org> <87twn5xpk7.fsf@gnus.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17411 Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 17340@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, 17411@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: Stefan Monnier , 17340@debbugs.gnu.org, lekktu@gmail.com, 17411@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 15:16:56 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: Stefan Monnier > >> Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 17411@debbugs.gnu.org > >> Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 17:19:50 -0400 > >> > >> I'd "fprintf (stderr, ...)", but that wouldn't work under w32 would > >> it? > > > > Not if Emacs was invoked by clicking the desktop icon, which is the > > usual way, no. > > > > Perhaps we should add a feature to write arbitrary text into the > > emacs_backtrace.txt file, when Emacs crashes. > > It's unclear what the conclusion was in this report -- whether there was > something more to investigate or not... I think it should be closed. These problems didn't happen in a long while. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 26 09:40:55 2015 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Dec 2015 14:40:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37289 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aCq1f-0000xP-D5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 09:40:55 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:43484) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aCq1e-0000xI-4O for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 09:40:54 -0500 Received: from 2.150.58.24.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.58.24] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aCq1H-00009E-0S for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 15:40:31 +0100 Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 15:40:30 +0100 Message-Id: <87h9j5xogx.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #17411 X-MailScanner-ID: 1aCq1H-00009E-0S X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1451745633.38233@NI/7AHXJ1AMYgpjdiBQfSQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) close 17411 From unknown Sat Jun 14 02:05:46 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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