From unknown Thu Jun 19 16:22:43 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17368: 24.3; Inconsistent behavior of scroll-bar-mode Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?S=C3=A9bastien?= Brisard Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 07:33:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 17368 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 17368@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.139875673812527 (code B ref -1); Tue, 29 Apr 2014 07:33:04 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2014 07:32:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44363 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wf2WV-0003Fo-Pf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 03:32:16 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45302) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wf1W0-0001Ae-VF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 02:27:42 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wf1Vl-0005Wk-SR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 02:27:35 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:36738) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wf1Vl-0005We-Ov for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 02:27:25 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46954) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wf1Ve-0003yH-5r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 02:27:25 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wf1VW-0005Se-6U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 02:27:18 -0400 Received: from mx1.polytechnique.org ([129.104.30.34]:37413) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wf1VV-0005SL-SO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 02:27:10 -0400 Received: from mail-ve0-f178.google.com (mail-ve0-f178.google.com [209.85.128.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ssl.polytechnique.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C132B1408EEF2 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 08:27:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-ve0-f178.google.com with SMTP id jw12so9183582veb.37 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 23:27:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.221.4.66 with SMTP id ob2mr164047vcb.28.1398752825562; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 23:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.12.139 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Apr 2014 23:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 08:27:05 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?Q?S=C3=A9bastien?= Brisard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP at svoboda.polytechnique.org (Tue Apr 29 08:27:07 2014 +0200 (CEST)) X-Org-Mail: sebastien.brisard.1997@polytechnique.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 03:32:13 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) Hello, I wanted to customize my Emacs so as not to show scroll-bars in any frame. Initially, I did this through custom (custom-set-variables '(scroll-bar-mode nil)) and this works fine. I wanted to get rid of the custom-set-variables section alltogether in my init.el file. According to the docstrings, the only thing you have to do is call the function scroll-bar-mode (scroll-bar-mode -1) This indeed removes scroll bars in the initial frame, but *not* in subsequent frames, which is in contradiction with the docstring. I thought maybe this was a bug. Best regards, S=C3=A9bastien In GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601) of 2013-03-17 on MARVIN Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --cflags -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libiconv-1.13.1-1-dev/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libxml2-2.7.8/include/libxml2' Important settings: value of $LANG: FRA locale-coding-system: cp1252 default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: TeX-PDF-mode: t TeX-source-correlate-mode: t show-paren-mode: t global-hl-line-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: x r e o p o r t - e m < return> Recent messages: Loading c:/Users/brisard/.emacs.d/filesets-cache.el (source)...done Loading c:/Users/brisard/.emacs.d/init-window-system.el (source)...done For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. 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Features: (shadow sort gnus-util mail-extr emacsbug message cl-macs gv rfc822 mml mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils cython-mode python rx ob-python ob-C cc-mode cc-fonts cc-guess cc-menus cc-cmds cc-styles cc-align cc-engine cc-vars cc-defs org byte-opt warnings bytecomp byte-compile cconv org-macro org-footnote org-pcomplete pcomplete org-list org-faces org-entities noutline outline org-version ob-emacs-lisp ob ob-tangle org-src ob-ref ob-lob ob-table ob-keys ob-exp ob-comint comint ansi-color ring ob-core ob-eval org-compat org-macs org-loaddefs format-spec find-func cal-menu calendar cal-loaddefs htmlize cl reftex reftex-vars preview prv-emacs latex easy-mmode tex-style tex-buf tex solarized-light-theme solarized dash cython-mode-autoloads htmlize-autoloads jedi-autoloads auto-complete-autoloads epc-autoloads ctable-autoloads concurrent-autoloads magit-autoloads git-rebase-mode-autoloads git-commit-mode-autoloads org-autoloads popup-autoloads finder-inf pydoc-info-autoloads pydoc-info advice help-fns cl-lib advice-preload info-look info python-environment-autoloads deferred-autoloads solarized-theme-autoloads dash-autoloads zenburn-theme-autoloads package edmacro kmacro paren hl-line filesets easymenu preview-latex tex-site auto-loads time-date tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel dos-w32 ls-lisp w32-common-fns disp-table w32-win w32-vars tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process w32 multi-tty emacs) From unknown Thu Jun 19 16:22:43 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17368: 24.3; Inconsistent behavior of scroll-bar-mode Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17368 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: =?UTF-8?Q?S=C3=A9bastien?= Brisard Cc: 17368@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 17368-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17368.139878018432657 (code B ref 17368); Tue, 29 Apr 2014 14:04:02 +0000 Received: (at 17368) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2014 14:03:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45089 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wf8ci-0008Ue-7Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 10:03:04 -0400 Received: from mtaout29.012.net.il ([80.179.55.185]:57834) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wf8ce-0008Ty-9B for 17368@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 10:03:01 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout29.012.net.il by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N4S00600PNY6800@mtaout29.012.net.il> for 17368@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 17:04:13 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N4S00M90PR1FI90@mtaout29.012.net.il>; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 17:04:13 +0300 (IDT) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 17:03:02 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83r44gmdwp.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 08:27:05 +0200 > From: Sébastien Brisard > > Hello, I wanted to customize my Emacs so as not to show scroll-bars in > any frame. Initially, I did this through custom > > (custom-set-variables > '(scroll-bar-mode nil)) > > and this works fine. I wanted to get rid of the custom-set-variables > section alltogether in my init.el file. According to the docstrings, the > only thing you have to do is call the function scroll-bar-mode > > (scroll-bar-mode -1) > > This indeed removes scroll bars in the initial frame, but *not* in > subsequent frames, which is in contradiction with the docstring. I > thought maybe this was a bug. I cannot reproduce this here. Can you show a reproducible recipe starting from "emacs -Q"? From unknown Thu Jun 19 16:22:43 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17368: 24.3; Inconsistent behavior of scroll-bar-mode Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 14:19:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17368 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 17368@debbugs.gnu.org, =?UTF-8?Q?S=C3=A9bastien?= Brisard Received: via spool by 17368-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17368.145113954127706 (code B ref 17368); Sat, 26 Dec 2015 14:19:02 +0000 Received: (at 17368) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Dec 2015 14:19:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37266 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aCpgT-0007Cn-4V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 09:19:01 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:45250) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aCpgR-0007Ce-97 for 17368@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 09:18:59 -0500 Received: from 2.150.58.24.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.58.24] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aCpg4-0008IY-KM; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 15:18:36 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <83r44gmdwp.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 15:18:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83r44gmdwp.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 29 Apr 2014 17:03:02 +0300") Message-ID: <87lh8hxphg.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MailScanner-ID: 1aCpg4-0008IY-KM X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1451744317.08412@IZx6m8/5S82pr3uu9v7OaQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 08:27:05 +0200 >> From: S=E9bastien Brisard >>=20 >> Hello, I wanted to customize my Emacs so as not to show scroll-bars in >> any frame. Initially, I did this through custom >>=20 >> (custom-set-variables >> '(scroll-bar-mode nil)) >>=20 >> and this works fine. I wanted to get rid of the custom-set-variables >> section alltogether in my init.el file. According to the docstrings, the >> only thing you have to do is call the function scroll-bar-mode >>=20 >> (scroll-bar-mode -1) >>=20 >> This indeed removes scroll bars in the initial frame, but *not* in >> subsequent frames, which is in contradiction with the docstring. I >> thought maybe this was a bug. > > I cannot reproduce this here. Can you show a reproducible recipe > starting from "emacs -Q"? More information was requested, but no response was given within a few months, so I'm closing this bug report. If the problem still exists, please reopen this bug report. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 26 09:19:03 2015 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Dec 2015 14:19:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37271 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aCpgV-0007DW-FY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 09:19:03 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:45257) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aCpgT-0007Cm-6G for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 09:19:01 -0500 Received: from 2.150.58.24.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.58.24] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1aCpg7-0008In-H8 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2015 15:18:39 +0100 Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 15:18:38 +0100 Message-Id: <87k2o1xphd.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #17368 X-MailScanner-ID: 1aCpg7-0008In-H8 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1451744319.78429@4tFhZZs7/X/adAI9bqwinQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) close 17368