From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:17:54 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#17310 <17310@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#17310 <17310@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.3; clarify emacsclient(1) manpage link to "(emacs)Emacs Server" Reply-To: bug#17310 <17310@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 06:17:54 +0000 retitle 17310 24.3; clarify emacsclient(1) manpage link to "(emacs)Emacs Se= rver" reassign 17310 emacs submitter 17310 Samuel Bronson severity 17310 minor tag 17310 wontfix patch thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Apr 21 14:01:45 2014 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Apr 2014 18:01:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54331 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WcIXI-0005Fe-Cq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 14:01:44 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46036) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WcIXB-0005FP-T3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 14:01:41 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WcIXB-0006aD-2e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 14:01:37 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:37574) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WcIXB-0006a9-09 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 14:01:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47752) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WcIXA-0006ga-31 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 14:01:36 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WcIX8-0006Zb-B7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 14:01:36 -0400 Received: from mail-qa0-x230.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c00::230]:65182) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WcIX8-0006Yp-6Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 14:01:34 -0400 Received: by mail-qa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id dc16so31305qab.21 for ; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 11:01:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=ycCFWJB6inTWzMHv7G9P+fLDnLW5ZOQgDZEB+Zc+1q0=; b=Jc4KIh2fGuzMAAp3H+PaphtK+FPoWW+2ku/ZJ727s7bA1dXP0cZS1iOFwGA6SlZqoC Wg3nAfFJaK6XLVzgvJeraHyxBIPCrW1nIKkQK26MxvCAoPQSROY4KIqTHx1dqC1DY5/O zKOSbULRDgPwS4xyQnLs56VRRzrx1AKYYsnGE/S5wrwj0okP97PEfaGmgwVDgN96a28r hnMBBTb7djrv/caU6Zq69U/uORXWU4selfAX8/zZXtlFFcSJYaNnl98kFYy/5qJyw0cd ChoxQwxKfwNbYCGzDCK52D8MTo6ijC0O1nF9y0og7gFCr7QOsw7h5GpTYIASnWxRtMIr kTqQ== X-Received: by 10.140.30.161 with SMTP id d30mr31310938qgd.62.1398103292803; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 11:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hydrogen (naesten-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net. [2001:470:1f06:57::2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f106sm8172827qge.8.2014.04.21.11.01.30 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 21 Apr 2014 11:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from naesten by hydrogen with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1WcIX1-0001Yv-Sv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2014 14:01:28 -0400 From: Samuel Bronson To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.3; clarify emacsclient(1) manpage link to "(emacs)Emacs Server" Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 14:01:27 -0400 Message-ID: <8761m2a7ew.fsf@naesten.mooo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Tags: patch It would be helpful if the manpage for emacsclient had a more prominent (i.e. bold) and more explicit link to (info "(emacs)Emacs Server"), perhaps using something like the included patch. In GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2013-12-22 on binet, modified by Debian Windowing system distributor `Colin Harrison', version 11.0.60900031 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux testing (jessie) Important settings: value of $LC_COLLATE: C value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch; name=emacsclient.1.patch Content-Disposition: inline diff -u /home/naesten/hacking/emacsclient.orig.1 /home/naesten/hacking/emacsclient.1 *** /home/naesten/hacking/emacsclient.orig.1 2014-04-21 13:04:31.000000000 -0400 --- /home/naesten/hacking/emacsclient.1 2014-04-21 13:37:07.000000000 -0400 *************** *** 93,99 **** .SH "SEE ALSO" The program is documented fully in .IR "Using Emacs as a Server" ! available via the Info system. .SH AUTHOR This manual page was written by Stephane Bortzmeyer , for the Debian GNU/Linux system (but may be used by others). --- 93,108 ---- .SH "SEE ALSO" The program is documented fully in .IR "Using Emacs as a Server" ! available via the Info system. You should be able to reach it using the ! shell command ! .IP ! .B info emacs \(aqEmacs Server\(aq ! .PP ! or by evaluating ! .IP ! .B (info \(dq(emacs)Emacs Server\(dq) ! .PP ! in Emacs. .SH AUTHOR This manual page was written by Stephane Bortzmeyer , for the Debian GNU/Linux system (but may be used by others). Diff finished. Mon Apr 21 13:37:21 2014 --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 29 10:15:57 2014 Received: (at 17310) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2014 14:15:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45134 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wf8pB-0001UZ-1m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 10:15:57 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:53536 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wf8p8-0001R8-4v for 17310@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 10:15:55 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wf8p7-0006Cm-D6; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 10:15:53 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Samuel Bronson Subject: Re: bug#17310: 24.3; clarify emacsclient(1) manpage link to "(emacs)Emacs Server" References: <8761m2a7ew.fsf@naesten.mooo.com> X-Spook: North Korea Al-Qaeda Blowfish Attorney General Islam X-Ran: |)FKsny;~>U`;v5@Pd!M|1`!HVxhZAS#)yx|dmZ&-!s9J?;!*LDwWNU51f~SZG49C@0o~y X-Hue: white X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 10:15:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: <8761m2a7ew.fsf@naesten.mooo.com> (Samuel Bronson's message of "Mon, 21 Apr 2014 14:01:27 -0400") Message-ID: <0dvbtskyqu.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17310 Cc: 17310@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) Samuel Bronson wrote: > It would be helpful if the manpage for emacsclient had a more prominent > (i.e. bold) and more explicit link to (info "(emacs)Emacs Server"), > perhaps using something like the included patch. Thanks for the patch, but IMO it's not worth applying. It's not the job of every man page to explain how to use info. > *** /home/naesten/hacking/emacsclient.orig.1 2014-04-21 13:04:31.000000000 -0400 > --- /home/naesten/hacking/emacsclient.1 2014-04-21 13:37:07.000000000 -0400 > *************** > *** 93,99 **** > .SH "SEE ALSO" > The program is documented fully in > .IR "Using Emacs as a Server" > ! available via the Info system. > .SH AUTHOR > This manual page was written by Stephane Bortzmeyer , > for the Debian GNU/Linux system (but may be used by others). > --- 93,108 ---- > .SH "SEE ALSO" > The program is documented fully in > .IR "Using Emacs as a Server" > ! available via the Info system. You should be able to reach it using the > ! shell command > ! .IP > ! .B info emacs \(aqEmacs Server\(aq > ! .PP > ! or by evaluating > ! .IP > ! .B (info \(dq(emacs)Emacs Server\(dq) > ! .PP > ! in Emacs. > .SH AUTHOR From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 29 11:30:08 2014 Received: (at 17310) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2014 15:30:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45224 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wf9yw-0004zL-2g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 11:30:07 -0400 Received: from mail-yh0-f52.google.com ([209.85.213.52]:61144) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Wf9yr-0004wS-Nm for 17310@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 11:30:03 -0400 Received: by mail-yh0-f52.google.com with SMTP id a41so157682yho.11 for <17310@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 08:29:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=IO6LxurQJy7vN7HXs3jO1evktqq9AHV8W/oQkS0MkQ4=; b=ClYqS9Q5hwAtWeWvHSkXfvjcfLNYLQwYXg1rqQNgTSkRUNVlIt/eqDG9mH1fHkKaXM PrkFV2JlN+VvCIIiDYkgzpTK2dN4Kp3nCs5BPs7KD3EV/B1U84GES/oVubC90JcWK4no baH3joXq8G7AitVMQPQ8NMuJJMWht+oR8k3uFzQAyQLfUCu42kpPGd783mjQOI5MacAt GaLZbsPJvpZ/t25z0hS7nZjQoNzcj/PfSV/D0kErAg7B50/aU6axHCAZc6OWxjRty2P0 BgUy5Es6LjDN/4/LjpDQ7Qq5Qk9XWKD+NnhDj8J8gaG/mB/ByRrdXjbMkCmqBKa3EqLh b3TA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkIkiTGQKSvwRZWqcB/asiUx4+Qmhj2gg/2j5u9W/kQ+WUHe2itjSpvhhLLWy5Y6qtVQqKO X-Received: by 10.236.116.99 with SMTP id f63mr46565582yhh.10.1398785395657; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 08:29:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.170.117.65 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Apr 2014 08:29:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <0dvbtskyqu.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <8761m2a7ew.fsf@naesten.mooo.com> <0dvbtskyqu.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> From: Josh Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 08:29:25 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2XabspOkZRDG3ThYcVAna__HtWY Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#17310: 24.3; clarify emacsclient(1) manpage link to "(emacs)Emacs Server" To: Glenn Morris Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3036387da03b8004f8301a81 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 17310 Cc: Samuel Bronson , 17310@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --20cf3036387da03b8004f8301a81 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Glenn Morris wrote: > Samuel Bronson wrote: > > > It would be helpful if the manpage for emacsclient had a more prominent > > (i.e. bold) and more explicit link to (info "(emacs)Emacs Server"), > > perhaps using something like the included patch. > > Thanks for the patch, but IMO it's not worth applying. > It's not the job of every man page to explain how to use info. > Agreed, but the current text ("The program is documented fully in Using Emacs as a Server available via the Info system.") isn't very helpful to users who are unfamiliar with GNU Info. Such users would be more likely to find their way to the complete documentation if we appended something like ", which can be invoked on most systems by issuing the `info' shell command." to the language above. --20cf3036387da03b8004f8301a81 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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> It would be helpful if the manpage for emacsclient had a more prominen= t
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> perhaps using something like the included patch.

Thanks for the patch, but IMO it's not worth applying.
It's not the job of every man page to explain how to use info.

Agreed, but the current text ("The pr= ogram is documented fully in
Using Emacs as a Server available vi= a the Info system.") isn't very
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be more likely to find their way to the complete documentatio= n if we
appended something like ", which can be invoked on m= ost systems=C2=A0
by issuing the `info'=C2=A0shell= command." to the language above.
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