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23.4; cursor stops blinking in minibuffer for Find File in viper-mode

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From: Michael Leibow <moof <at> camooflage.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 23.4; cursor stops blinking in minibuffer for Find File in viper-mode
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 18:26:58 -0400

Start emacs (no init files).  type M-xviper-mode<ret>C-xC-f<esc> and the
cursor will stop blinking and disappear.  Since the cursor is missing,
it's impossible to see where the point is when typing h or l
repeatedly.

Please help.

Thanks.

In GNU Emacs 23.4.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin, NS apple-appkit-1038.36)
 of 2012-01-29 on bob.porkrind.org
Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1265
configured using `configure  '--host=x86_64-apple-darwin'
'--build=i686-apple-darwin' '--with-ns'
'build_alias=i686-apple-darwin' 'host_alias=x86_64-apple-darwin'
'CC=gcc -mmacosx-version-min=10.5''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
  default enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Fundamental

Minor modes in effect:
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
M-x r e p o r t - e m <tab> <return>

Recent messages:
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.

Load-path shadows:
None found.

Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr message ecomplete rfc822 mml mml-sec
password-cache mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mailcap mail-parse rfc2231
rfc2047 rfc2045 qp ietf-drums mailabbrev nnheader gnus-util netrc
time-date mm-util mail-prsvr gmm-utils wid-edit mailheader canlock sha1
hex-util hashcash mail-utils emacsbug tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks
lisp-float-type mwheel ns-win easymenu tool-bar dnd fontset image fringe
lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar
mldrag mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham
georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao
korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic
indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple
abbrev loaddefs button minibuffer faces cus-face files text-properties
overlay md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget
hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process ns multi-tty
emacs)

Message #8 received at 17054 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Michael Leibow <moof <at> camooflage.com>
Cc: 17054 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#17054: 23.4;
 cursor stops blinking in minibuffer for Find File in viper-mode
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 20:50:54 -0400

> Start emacs (no init files).  type M-xviper-mode<ret>C-xC-f<esc> and the

The above doesn't work for me: I get prompted what level of viperism
I want.  So apparently you're not quite running it with "no init
files".

> cursor will stop blinking and disappear.

I selected "beginner" and then did the C-x C-f and the cursor blinked
just fine.  I tried it with both 23.4 and 24.3 under GNU/Linux.

Please try a more recent Emacs version first, and if the problem
subsists, try to reproduce it starting from "emacs -Q".


        Stefan

Message #11 received at 17054 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Leibow <moof <at> camooflage.com>
To: 17054 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: still doesn't work (I removed .viper file, and problem persists)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 21:35:24 -0400

I had a ~/.viper file.  I removed it and tried again:

$ /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs -Q
M-x viper-mode
Inhibit Viper startup message? (y or n) n
1
Do you wish to make this change permanent? (y or n) n
C-x C-f
Find file: ~/ <esc>

and the ~/ background changes to a dark grey, and the cursor disappears.

This is repeatable on different computers and different user accounts.
 I am using 23.4.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin, NS apple-appkit-1038.36) of
2012-01-29 on bob.porkrind.org.

I can't use 24.1, 24.2, or 24.3 due to other bugs when writing
over samba to to servers with varying times that 23.4.1 is more
tolerant.

    --Mike

Message #14 received at 17054 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov <at> yandex.ru>
To: Michael Leibow <moof <at> camooflage.com>
Cc: 17054 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#17054: still doesn't work (I removed .viper file,
 and problem persists)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 04:28:09 +0200

Michael Leibow <moof <at> camooflage.com> writes:

> I can't use 24.1, 24.2, or 24.3 due to other bugs when writing
> over samba to to servers with varying times that 23.4.1 is more
> tolerant.

Surely you could try to reproduce the bug, at least?

I don't know what you're expecting: Emacs core does not usually support
older versions. Your best bet would be to report the problems you're
having with Samba on the current release, to try to get them fixed.

Message #17 received at 17054 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Michael Leibow <moof <at> camooflage.com>
Cc: 17054 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#17054: still doesn't work (I removed .viper file,
 and problem persists)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 09:56:52 +0200

> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 21:35:24 -0400
> From: Michael Leibow <moof <at> camooflage.com>
> 
> I had a ~/.viper file.  I removed it and tried again:
> 
> $ /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs -Q
> M-x viper-mode
> Inhibit Viper startup message? (y or n) n
> 1
> Do you wish to make this change permanent? (y or n) n
> C-x C-f
> Find file: ~/ <esc>
> 
> and the ~/ background changes to a dark grey, and the cursor disappears.

Could this be due to some issue with color depth?  What I see after
the above recipe is gray background and black cursor.  If your cursor
is gray, maybe you are unable to see it on the gray background?

Message #20 received at 17054 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Leibow <moof <at> camooflage.com>
To: 17054 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#17054: still doesn't work (I removed .viper file,
 and problem persists)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 10:23:10 -0400

I am unable to reproduce this bug in 24.3, however it is indeed in
23.4.1.  My other bug with samba timestamps is a different problem
that I will have to tackle if I move to 24.3.


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 3:56 AM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:
>> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 21:35:24 -0400
>> From: Michael Leibow <moof <at> camooflage.com>
>>
>> I had a ~/.viper file.  I removed it and tried again:
>>
>> $ /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs -Q
>> M-x viper-mode
>> Inhibit Viper startup message? (y or n) n
>> 1
>> Do you wish to make this change permanent? (y or n) n
>> C-x C-f
>> Find file: ~/ <esc>
>>
>> and the ~/ background changes to a dark grey, and the cursor disappears.
>
> Could this be due to some issue with color depth?  What I see after
> the above recipe is gray background and black cursor.  If your cursor
> is gray, maybe you are unable to see it on the gray background?

Message #25 received at 17054 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Michael Leibow <moof <at> camooflage.com>
Cc: 17054 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#17054: still doesn't work (I removed .viper file,
 and problem persists)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 22:32:25 -0400

Michael Leibow wrote:

> I am unable to reproduce this bug in 24.3, however it is indeed in
> 23.4.1.  My other bug with samba timestamps is a different problem
> that I will have to tackle if I move to 24.3.

Sorry, but we don't support Emacs 23.4 any more.
Unless anyone happens to remember what change fixed your viper problem
between 23.4 and 24.3 (it seems unlikely), I advise you to switch to
24.3 and report whatever samba issue you have as a new bug report.

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