From unknown Sun Jun 22 15:27:03 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17009: Please add a hook to visual-line-mode Resent-From: Reuben Thomas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 00:57:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 17009 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 17009@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-emacs Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13947585759535 (code B ref -1); Fri, 14 Mar 2014 00:57:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2014 00:56:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36262 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WOGQ2-0002Ti-Lm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 20:56:15 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34982) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WOGPz-0002TX-E3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 20:56:12 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WOGPy-0003fo-35 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 20:56:10 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:60401) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WOGPy-0003fk-0L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 20:56:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36702) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WOGPx-0006Kt-4X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 20:56:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WOGPw-0003fQ-C9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 20:56:09 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:35013) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WOGPw-0003fM-9O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 20:56:08 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60857) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WOGPw-0000NB-2f for bug-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 20:56:08 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WOGPv-0003fD-1k for bug-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 20:56:07 -0400 Received: from mail-yh0-x22c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4002:c01::22c]:50316) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WOGPu-0003f9-SR for bug-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 20:56:06 -0400 Received: by mail-yh0-f44.google.com with SMTP id f10so1906264yha.31 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 17:56:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sc3d.org; s=google; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iQayNkQgFIEVbmxGeE/VT9IWX5lkIoZr177NO+gRL1E=; b=pYC/49Ao1f6Sfqchk09P+ziYyyXNKtm+2EszjuVbySFLr0Noes7jxaCppOYhZHIvOu 8tPYPnL89AcPGSZ11Q49oqtNKX+8ded37mMZXlxIYh/IXw2UGVOwqxMyUB2Z+uyChqOB gZVu3k3SGmmRZyIVQHrfzybgUCw87WxzWbY9s= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=iQayNkQgFIEVbmxGeE/VT9IWX5lkIoZr177NO+gRL1E=; b=k/ZqNdEph0oYkQldZa6f+jgeIeClcVBAkx8X19MFOdFLq7sqfBNbkuth/cOjA5u2v4 ix+StzVxSoQIvPEgYhCJnPboczIoqsQnICXWeejNMn8js52VBDeccWxzy0+ftYBglk2D RqwC17aVz+pZ6aV0wHQLgJNB5O/FT7SBvYhO72Y7HrDVoCx3FHlByeVX+/uZBP0jdcIm ObJTjqHtcrfrZYHlYfet467Qcf2hSvUaD+o5a4aqa0o30GJx+GHbtXGmOVAWzxelvxld JLlfEhtXKbNru17rwGEMJxqsFqK4nYPgHDN3bUgrhkVYd3caPmY06S1ZKEfeHHlbh0kP N2eg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm53F4iChMyTHXB0BJpeDFN0JcB5FuRTXw+1qJJl2XHVNU68Y2RZP1syvMBHNrmlSeHPbBS MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.122.173 with SMTP id t33mr6650253yhh.117.1394758566066; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 17:56:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.170.137.66 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Mar 2014 17:56:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 00:56:06 +0000 Message-ID: From: Reuben Thomas Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3011e35fe0d2c404f48688ae X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) --20cf3011e35fe0d2c404f48688ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It would be nice to be able to activate window-margin-mode when visual-line-mode is turned on: https://github.com/aculich/window-margin.el -- http://rrt.sc3d.org --20cf3011e35fe0d2c404f48688ae Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
It would be nice to be able to activate window-margin-mode when visual-line-mode is turned on:

https://github.com/aculich/window-margin.el
--20cf3011e35fe0d2c404f48688ae-- From unknown Sun Jun 22 15:27:03 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17009: Please add a hook to visual-line-mode Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 07:51:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17009 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Reuben Thomas Cc: 17009@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 17009-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17009.139478342723971 (code B ref 17009); Fri, 14 Mar 2014 07:51:02 +0000 Received: (at 17009) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2014 07:50:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36428 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WOMsr-0006ET-Ft for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 03:50:25 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:40957) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WOMsp-0006EL-1E for 17009@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 03:50:23 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WOMsm-0003MA-UE; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 03:50:20 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: X-Spook: analyzer AVIP Jiang Zemin South Africa rs9512c high X-Ran: \2P3-Jrw6HHNNnu<@f|vTC0s.OAC4BN]-^=4w:rNLVz\,9]I;s^K^_sR,.$6ihF2::/PK@ X-Hue: yellow X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 03:50:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Reuben Thomas's message of "Fri, 14 Mar 2014 00:56:06 +0000") Message-ID: <01zjktrzgj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Modes defined with define-minor-mode have hooks. C-h v visual-line-mode-hook visual-line-mode-hook is a variable defined in `simple.el'. Its value is (visual-line-mode-set-explicitly) This variable may be risky if used as a file-local variable. Documentation: Hook run after entering or leaving `visual-line-mode'. No problems result if this variable is not bound. `add-hook' automatically binds it. (This is true for all hook variables.) From unknown Sun Jun 22 15:27:03 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17009: Please add a hook to visual-line-mode Resent-From: Reuben Thomas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 12:18:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17009 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: 17009@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 17009-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17009.139479947926734 (code B ref 17009); Fri, 14 Mar 2014 12:18:02 +0000 Received: (at 17009) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2014 12:17:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36532 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WOR3n-0006x8-6x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 08:17:59 -0400 Received: from mail-yk0-f172.google.com ([209.85.160.172]:41026) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WOR3l-0006x0-Bp for 17009@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 08:17:58 -0400 Received: by mail-yk0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 200so6422483ykr.3 for <17009@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 05:17:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sc3d.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=NrAQ+OFDuuCAGDxsGDhVeYqWSmFWyl36y2yP5Q/bMtg=; b=ejnDK3wMS72wxmar0d4+AHr56yfFNR/xgXwtsL1mjvV8BzTWrb5pgpVgZIGFXxmWs7 Sj+PsjT70i6UpZ/ZnuPnttA38WYzrMmc2yevK0ngkKkVTPhZvnaMI9KLx3gS12b4GqrO IOIkwRxsViQCayr4z8dFdbcxzMZfjxzBeCSrU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=NrAQ+OFDuuCAGDxsGDhVeYqWSmFWyl36y2yP5Q/bMtg=; b=QHyKm/HceNz3QnQvOHc71F/Y9O21gFu1dxTeZcbPzSq0nHHJbEnbmvDrzw0te/BXSK GdMUAp2Wl8/KahNkA7GlcMX8yKcerKiKRJh0E1cpq2rLftnVADHNL8Xqyl3Y+vMNVNGx wm3phNmL6l/vPcY+N89cu7wXhcUTGsYPKZXQ3pazqLJNSH/ctNDtDztD0Kbxsqajw1nQ 7+/BWPQAHs08zacNCRZ9n5pZkxvwuggCl59SiIZZRKgyBKXPjcBa+Ig8FDWgG3ttQiLo gzEOEHT8qDEyKaftUN7xD2Xea4eK/cnui6dmzYhvnHFzDFwovo8cnCS9J2BF7Z+8joF6 D1PQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlClQVN608f2Bq+2NcUxbr29HxP7BJUtbP9GzCXODrQpTr3ty7ySX1mqo6CTxJJq+gORyBv MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.17.34 with SMTP id i22mr2254199yhi.110.1394799476857; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 05:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.170.137.66 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 05:17:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <01zjktrzgj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <01zjktrzgj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 12:17:56 +0000 Message-ID: From: Reuben Thomas Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01634ef459f43d04f4900f95 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --089e01634ef459f43d04f4900f95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 14 March 2014 07:50, Glenn Morris wrote: > > Modes defined with define-minor-mode have hooks. > > C-h v visual-line-mode-hook > > visual-line-mode-hook is a variable defined in `simple.el'. > Its value is (visual-line-mode-set-explicitly) > > This variable may be risky if used as a file-local variable. > > Documentation: > Hook run after entering or leaving `visual-line-mode'. > No problems result if this variable is not bound. > `add-hook' automatically binds it. (This is true for all hook > variables.) > Great! Is this new in 24.4, because this doesn't work for me? -- http://rrt.sc3d.org --089e01634ef459f43d04f4900f95 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 1= 4 March 2014 07:50, Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> wrote:

Modes defined with define-minor-mode have hooks.

C-h v visual-line-mode-hook

=A0 =A0 visual-line-mode-hook is a variable defined in `simple.el'.
=A0 =A0 Its value is (visual-line-mode-set-explicitly)

=A0 =A0 This variable may be risky if used as a file-local variable.

=A0 =A0 Documentation:
=A0 =A0 Hook run after entering or leaving `visual-line-mode'.
=A0 =A0 No problems result if this variable is not bound.
=A0 =A0 `add-hook' automatically binds it. =A0(This is true for all hoo= k
=A0 =A0 variables.)

Great! Is this new = in 24.4, because this doesn't work for me?

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--089e01634ef459f43d04f4900f95-- From unknown Sun Jun 22 15:27:03 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17009: Please add a hook to visual-line-mode Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 13:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17009 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Reuben Thomas Cc: Glenn Morris , 17009@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 17009-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17009.13948043683879 (code B ref 17009); Fri, 14 Mar 2014 13:40:02 +0000 Received: (at 17009) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2014 13:39:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36611 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WOSKd-00010U-E5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 09:39:27 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:63848) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WOSKR-000104-TH for 17009@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 09:39:23 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFFMCppy/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLDiYSFBgNJIgeBsEtkQoDpHqBXoMT X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFFMCppy/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLDiYSFBgNJIgeBsEtkQoDpHqBXoMT X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="52069006" Received: from 76-10-154-114.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO fmsmemgm.homelinux.net) ([76.10.154.114]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 14 Mar 2014 09:39:15 -0400 Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 40BC9AE1F9; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 09:39:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <01zjktrzgj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 09:39:15 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Reuben Thomas's message of "Fri, 14 Mar 2014 12:17:56 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > Great! Is this new in 24.4, because this doesn't work for me? No, it's been there from the very beginning. What do you mean by "doesn't work"? Stfean From unknown Sun Jun 22 15:27:03 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17009: Please add a hook to visual-line-mode Resent-From: Reuben Thomas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 13:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17009 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Monnier Cc: Glenn Morris , 17009@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 17009-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17009.13948049144950 (code B ref 17009); Fri, 14 Mar 2014 13:49:01 +0000 Received: (at 17009) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2014 13:48:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36622 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WOSTR-0001Hl-OM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 09:48:34 -0400 Received: from mail-yk0-f178.google.com ([209.85.160.178]:43867) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WOSTM-0001HY-Hw for 17009@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 09:48:32 -0400 Received: by mail-yk0-f178.google.com with SMTP id 79so6711800ykr.9 for <17009@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 06:48:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sc3d.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=bhHwmoBf8X9VySxKFAaU+vBd7HKPirOKIHZiiVSFSHk=; b=Y0hnmSr8H+IJsQyH139hTwcEU59dta5OvH+KO0OWkhvCCAs4ErpjUrwhRNnXIVPOWl jfFH9/DA4E23iEVXhmB7LJbgE1kcduCPforasYyIKXznSrXYMBGl2kzEHSwChNAzROx8 YKfTEpjXlUy7Ei58rC3/m15W81SzY3w3324xg= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=bhHwmoBf8X9VySxKFAaU+vBd7HKPirOKIHZiiVSFSHk=; b=X6hE/VGB7J75/kOL4Za89p2r/32lGPSrDy5Vuz9JP73ZX5SNaxT04woqHUDbAETFae 3hrizaPku0pWxpR4wyNyejyp2ye+ITctvi2eQ4IGBvYXNaFlKDjgM/l/VPM6MUdQSIF2 aGz+njh3Bo8rSi0pHYOMxiGrvslZlVV5Fuvo2/CaBv/q7vOT9at22uJmSy2MYepYONa/ k7AmZc93D+Qzy7ZMi20u75en7edHasjJ6LPj5T2VFXLNfEsJCowWUnOMyaEYy2yjnolZ rS9JYZncCb9Tw6eUGyfQDs8B2PG0K1M146aT69WCpBdSAuMVhR+9vX6STyZfLPAzhXkD OIWw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkStvhAmY6c0KpWm26JdHyqSyEl9mehfbR4Xy0/BAhh6T4chDw/wtblZLhmo4SVfLDM06dH MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.162.65 with SMTP id x41mr10483894yhk.25.1394804907584; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 06:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.170.137.66 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 06:48:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <01zjktrzgj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 13:48:27 +0000 Message-ID: From: Reuben Thomas Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3040e3b20c460f04f49153df X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --20cf3040e3b20c460f04f49153df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 14 March 2014 13:39, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Great! Is this new in 24.4, because this doesn't work for me? > > No, it's been there from the very beginning. What do you mean by > "doesn't work"? > C-h v visual-line-mode-hook [No match] So this is a hook that magically comes into existence if I assign to it: having done so, C-h v now works. This is all rather confusing; thanks for straightening me out. -- http://rrt.sc3d.org --20cf3040e3b20c460f04f49153df Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 1= 4 March 2014 13:39, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>= ; wrote:
> Great! Is this new in 2= 4.4, because this doesn't work for me?

No, it's been there from the very beginning. =A0What do you mean = by
"doesn't work"?

C-h v vis= ual-line-mode-hook [No match]

So this is a = hook that magically comes into existence if I assign to it: having done so,= C-h v now works.

This is all rather confusing; thanks for straightening me out.

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--20cf3040e3b20c460f04f49153df-- From unknown Sun Jun 22 15:27:03 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17009: Please add a hook to visual-line-mode Resent-From: Dmitry Gutov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 14:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17009 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Reuben Thomas Cc: 17009@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier Received: via spool by 17009-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17009.13948073219516 (code B ref 17009); Fri, 14 Mar 2014 14:29:01 +0000 Received: (at 17009) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2014 14:28:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36924 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WOT6H-0002TQ-17 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 10:28:41 -0400 Received: from mail-ee0-f45.google.com ([74.125.83.45]:38291) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WOT6F-0002TI-19 for 17009@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 10:28:39 -0400 Received: by mail-ee0-f45.google.com with SMTP id d17so1461896eek.4 for <17009@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 07:28:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=ZcD/ZI3WMGn070YeNdc8ca8ACforEXx3znoLGK3Y73M=; b=SBmryBerOK0TG/F9iBmv8pJJxy0PsbMF3kkQ6pAV/OTttzYqBWt659a7CQ/9Lv/0Wd z+gOqD5ddu5WyxioFU3S3ajIBzxOCcf+6a+J0NqrZGORBTLzaaGxGMG9KkhGzxr1BjIx mzri4ZbOOoMXcI1FjGq8oRNUr5sT8UXk8sh1i0/FFyFwBgV4/rZAMbH12+Vq1WqrBujH /fWolT1Xnis9ik7+Qr3IZecxdl2dYR7lg/y0rjs7TArhYcSdKW/8YCZIDzro04n69VjN JJjq10mOSzvDtYQCueKE5qDl95R0jdxriJnh1YSxHVUqoVMySQ8/p48E0J+R196lXRoc CXBw== X-Received: by 10.15.26.67 with SMTP id m43mr523227eeu.109.1394807317976; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 07:28:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from axl (static-nbl2-118.cytanet.com.cy. [212.31.107.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id q44sm17505190eez.1.2014.03.14.07.28.35 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 14 Mar 2014 07:28:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Dmitry Gutov References: <01zjktrzgj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 16:28:30 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Reuben Thomas's message of "Fri, 14 Mar 2014 13:48:27 +0000") Message-ID: <87zjkslur5.fsf@yandex.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Reuben Thomas writes: > So this is a hook that magically comes into existence if I assign to it: > having done so, C-h v now works. That's true of all hooks: a hook variable doesn't have to be defined for `add-hook' or `run-hooks' to work. Of course, the latter won't do anything in that case. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 14 11:56:00 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2014 15:56:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36963 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WOUSl-00057p-EA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 11:55:59 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:39851) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WOUSj-00057h-Uj for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 11:55:58 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WOUSi-0000FY-Lg for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 11:55:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 11:55:56 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 17009 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) close 17009 23.1 From unknown Sun Jun 22 15:27:03 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17009: Please add a hook to visual-line-mode Resent-From: Stefan Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 16:50:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17009 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Reuben Thomas Cc: Glenn Morris , 17009@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 17009-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17009.139481575630216 (code B ref 17009); Fri, 14 Mar 2014 16:50:02 +0000 Received: (at 17009) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2014 16:49:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37019 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WOVIK-0007rH-4w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 12:49:16 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:5579) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WOVIG-0007r4-KU for 17009@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 12:49:13 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Al8FABK/CFFMCpZ3/2dsb2JhbABEj0SvShdzgh4BAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOOGJZigV6DEw X-IPAS-Result: Al8FABK/CFFMCpZ3/2dsb2JhbABEj0SvShdzgh4BAQQBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOOGJZigV6DEw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="52113992" Received: from 76-10-150-119.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.150.119]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 14 Mar 2014 12:49:11 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 33A7660472; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 12:49:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Message-ID: References: <01zjktrzgj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 12:49:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Reuben Thomas's message of "Fri, 14 Mar 2014 13:48:27 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > C-h v visual-line-mode-hook [No match] Who cares? Use it anyway: it will work. Quoting the message Glenn send you earlier: > No problems result if this variable is not bound. > `add-hook' automatically binds it. (This is true for all hook > variables.) -- Stefan From unknown Sun Jun 22 15:27:03 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17009: Please add a hook to visual-line-mode Resent-From: Reuben Thomas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 17:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17009 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Cc: Glenn Morris , 17009@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 17009-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17009.139481644531735 (code B ref 17009); Fri, 14 Mar 2014 17:01:02 +0000 Received: (at 17009) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2014 17:00:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37033 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WOVTP-0008Fl-CE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 13:00:44 -0400 Received: from mail-yk0-f171.google.com ([209.85.160.171]:46540) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WOVTK-0008FV-4T for 17009@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 13:00:39 -0400 Received: by mail-yk0-f171.google.com with SMTP id q9so7377665ykb.2 for <17009@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 10:00:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sc3d.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=5nzhQzhRfgK+QqVK0A6IOU6de23YC4MgZv3aNzyNFEo=; b=e+wcDy0X9EVroKp5GJ1QP0mgmbfQNbnp3lWdF8RKaYT+EBCXKTSF26pRfyHo2P/70L EkGaY10OT96fdgX1J6+ruwyoq//avntLSd3nBPoxEhBPQa8tw3bnRTBb0k5ST/QC/CCf FG3F796MJ+5oP2BDTpSvSyUXye/O8BAC7cAbg= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=5nzhQzhRfgK+QqVK0A6IOU6de23YC4MgZv3aNzyNFEo=; b=EiHCivPLGC5oecO7MOp5+xvSy033hiGyV2hgwDj12Ojoc8CYBNE/wpAc0mfec/u5mI Capisja7SweZxGxTC5V7ysOXoHSzxTvzgwbUG9tpDVJsIVuYsfZLBBiCEs9jBMsRT1WL c33jEFKH3wgsRpSqB11IoTg8UBNtOtl7/HCxI/wd2XlIpaJLCIwjzNIkfCBgWTCyHcFR OM6/Jl4HZXIuxHSok1K5eK9z8jOWAyMAIQ/iLfnYqX43+cK2eTJ3AtwSMeCRaGFyyMYw QF4EIw1PNOjVeXr/RGMa75p3iS8GDvGwLaAUNfRZAD850a2Dhfh3ez9ULiyjCi0oDE1Y sK0w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQniLWAgRTjxZce6M3RGOoEf9rcf9XX5xpn81dp0i9uM0S1B3dNkXSs2tx7FYZyD0u/LKp84 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.130.51 with SMTP id j39mr3720381yhi.125.1394816436950; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 10:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.170.137.66 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 10:00:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <01zjktrzgj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 17:00:36 +0000 Message-ID: From: Reuben Thomas Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3010e605406b5004f49402a2 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --20cf3010e605406b5004f49402a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 14 March 2014 16:49, Stefan wrote: > > C-h v visual-line-mode-hook [No match] > > Who cares? Use it anyway: it will work. > Even from a careful reading of the documentation, it's not obvious that the variable not being bound means that its documentation will not be available: it's reasonable to think that C-h v not working means that something is wrong. Sure, it works, but discoverability is not great. -- http://rrt.sc3d.org --20cf3010e605406b5004f49402a2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 1= 4 March 2014 16:49, Stefan <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>= wrote:
> C-h v visual-line-mode-= hook [No match]

Who cares? =A0Use it anyway: it will work.

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Even from a careful reading of the documentation, it's not ob= vious that the variable not being bound means that its documentation will n= ot be available: it's reasonable to think that C-h v not working means = that something is wrong. Sure, it works, but discoverability is not great.<= br>

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--20cf3010e605406b5004f49402a2-- From unknown Sun Jun 22 15:27:03 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17009: Please add a hook to visual-line-mode Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 17:13:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17009 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Reuben Thomas Cc: 17009@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Received: via spool by 17009-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17009.1394817175742 (code B ref 17009); Fri, 14 Mar 2014 17:13:02 +0000 Received: (at 17009) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2014 17:12:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37038 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WOVfD-0000Bu-3y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 13:12:55 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:45135) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WOVfA-0000Bk-Gc for 17009@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 13:12:52 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WOVf9-0005p2-KK; Fri, 14 Mar 2014 13:12:51 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <01zjktrzgj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Spook: AUTODIN Telex Blowfish eternity server SAPO M-14 X-Ran: 2+D0Xn(rU:=G.txj=pVkgli=7-P3_sKdTIV;o.gx"SY0lqb"-B_"d+[K*0c|DjG?67?GIP X-Hue: yellow X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 13:12:51 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Reuben Thomas's message of "Fri, 14 Mar 2014 17:00:36 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Reuben Thomas wrote: > Even from a careful reading of the documentation, it's not obvious that the > variable not being bound means that its documentation will not be > available: it's reasonable to think that C-h v not working means that > something is wrong. Sure, it works, but discoverability is not great. That's the part that will be different in 24.4. 2013-05-27 Stefan Monnier * emacs-lisp/easy-mmode.el (define-minor-mode): * emacs-lisp/derived.el (define-derived-mode): Always defvar the mode hook and provide a docstring. From unknown Sun Jun 22 15:27:03 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17009: Please add a hook to visual-line-mode Resent-From: Kevin Rodgers Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 13:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17009 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 17009@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.139584173120093 (code B ref -1); Wed, 26 Mar 2014 13:49:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Mar 2014 13:48:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50188 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WSoCJ-0005E1-5P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:48:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46078) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WSoCF-0005Ds-Vo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:48:48 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSoCA-0005Ll-07 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:48:47 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:45537) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSoC9-0005Lh-TN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:48:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47785) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSoC4-0003Nw-Gz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:48:41 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSoBz-0005HV-E1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:48:36 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:52208) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WSoBz-0005HI-6z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:48:31 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WSoBu-0008FC-L7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 14:48:26 +0100 Received: from 70-59-41-30.hlrn.qwest.net ([70.59.41.30]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 14:48:26 +0100 Received: from kevin.d.rodgers by 70-59-41-30.hlrn.qwest.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 14:48:26 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ From: Kevin Rodgers Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 07:49:03 -0600 Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <01zjktrzgj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 70-59-41-30.hlrn.qwest.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9.2.28) Gecko/20120306 Thunderbird/3.1.20 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) On 3/14/14 11:12 AM, Glenn Morris wrote: > Reuben Thomas wrote: > >> Even from a careful reading of the documentation, it's not obvious that the >> variable not being bound means that its documentation will not be >> available: it's reasonable to think that C-h v not working means that >> something is wrong. Sure, it works, but discoverability is not great. > > That's the part that will be different in 24.4. > > > 2013-05-27 Stefan Monnier > > * emacs-lisp/easy-mmode.el (define-minor-mode): > * emacs-lisp/derived.el (define-derived-mode): Always defvar > the mode hook and provide a docstring. :-) http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2008-03/msg00136.html -- Kevin Rodgers Denver, Colorado, USA From unknown Sun Jun 22 15:27:03 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#17009: Please add a hook to visual-line-mode Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 14:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17009 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Kevin Rodgers Cc: 17009@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 17009-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17009.139584369224127 (code B ref 17009); Wed, 26 Mar 2014 14:22:02 +0000 Received: (at 17009) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Mar 2014 14:21:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51005 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WSohv-0006H2-14 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 10:21:31 -0400 Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:52351) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WSohs-0006Gu-Ml for 17009@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 10:21:29 -0400 Received: from pastel.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id s2QELRO4023757; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 10:21:27 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 11B21608E5; Wed, 26 Mar 2014 10:21:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <01zjktrzgj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 10:21:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Kevin Rodgers's message of "Wed, 26 Mar 2014 07:49:03 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Level: ** X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 2.9 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 11 Rules triggered SORT_LNK_1HTP_CTPLN_W_SLS_HPL=1, SLS_HPL=0.5, GEN_SPAM_FEATRE=0.2, HTM_SHRT_PTR=0.2, SHORT_1HTTP_HTML=0.2, SHORT_1HTTP_HTML_W_HTM_SHRT_PTR=0.2, SORT_LNK_1HTP_CTPLN=0.2, SORT_LNK_1HTP_CTPLN_W_GEN_SPAM_FEATRE=0.2, GEN_SPAM_FEATRE_W_SHORT_1HTTP_HTML=0.1, SHORT_1HTTP_HTML_W_HAS_HTML_TAG=0.1, RV4893=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9362 : core <4893> : inlines <647> : streams <1144988> : uri <1710542> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2008-03/msg00136.html Oh, yes, I know, this is a very long standing issue, both with define-derived-mode and define-minor-mode. Stefan