From unknown Sat Jun 14 18:46:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16976: 24.3.50; Flickering during frame creation for the NS-port with toolbar-mode enabled Resent-From: Konrad Podczeck Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2014 19:13:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 16976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 16976@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.139439236812922 (code B ref -1); Sun, 09 Mar 2014 19:13:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Mar 2014 19:12:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58380 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WMj9T-0003MM-Ar for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2014 15:12:47 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49760) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WMj9Q-0003MD-Jr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2014 15:12:45 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WMj9K-0002eB-4A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2014 15:12:44 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:40467) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WMj9K-0002e4-1H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2014 15:12:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51436) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WMj9D-0001PU-SA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2014 15:12:37 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WMj98-0002b7-5J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2014 15:12:31 -0400 Received: from grace.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.115]:50597) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WMj97-0002at-RQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2014 15:12:26 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=univie.ac.at; s=rev2; h=Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Date:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:From; bh=TgB1BnCRchu6uRFdRJlL0jku1uvaP3Sq1WMX07kykNE=; b=NH9YdW/RGnA201dUyAR/W4nzSaL8dFyM6ehdN9CBvjTN7cDxPqCDFvvIeZ71tizXvyfjoMQ5xtu/aBSSRnD1sctCnXbpX2b/KG7WnAvEFUgLX+3laakdob7uAfVzotp6INFR70B2q5lMuvuF7JlTYjtRaR8BSUPsCsZHXOGiBpA=; Received: from joan.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.110] helo=joan.univie.ac.at) by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1WMj93-0004Q7-Qd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2014 20:12:21 +0100 Received: from [84.113.246.80] (helo=[192.168.0.11]) by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtpsa (TLSv1:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1WMj93-00009F-OZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2014 20:12:21 +0100 From: Konrad Podczeck Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 20:12:21 +0100 Message-Id: <801316EE-F452-4A27-8104-5BB4FA7BEE31@univie.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Univie-Virus-Scan: scanned by ClamAV on joan.univie.ac.at X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Use the key combination C-x 5 2 to open a new frame. During creation of = the new frame, there is an annoying flickering. The flickering disappears, however, when tool-bar mode is disabled. With or without toolbar-mode, there is no flickering during frame = creation for emacs compiled with the option "--with-x". So this flickering seems to be an NS-port specific bug. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin, NS apple-appkit-1038.36) of 2014-03-09 on bob.porkrind.org Repository revision: lekktu@gmail.com-20140308222620-e38x03628o8njfqq Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1138 Configured using: `configure --host=3Dx86_64-apple-darwin --build=3Di686-apple-darwin --with-ns' Important settings: locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: LaTeX Minor modes in effect: shell-dirtrack-mode: t tooltip-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: C-x C-f d o c u m a n t s =20 e n t s / t e x f i l e s /=20 b a l a t 2 - t e x =20 . t e x C-x C-f p u r i f . t=20 e x M-x f i n d - f i l e - o SPC SPC =20 =20 C-x 5 2 < send-emacs-bug-report> Recent messages: Error: (file-error "Cannot open load file" "no such file or directory" = "tex-site") For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. balat2.tex has auto save data; consider M-x recover-this-file purif.tex has auto save data; consider M-x recover-this-file Making completion list... read-file-name-default: No file name specified [2 times] Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort gnus-util mail-extr emacsbug message format-spec rfc822 mml mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util help-fns mail-prsvr mail-utils help-mode tex-mode compile shell pcomplete comint ansi-color ring latexenc info easymenu package time-date tooltip electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel ns-win tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process cocoa ns multi-tty emacs) From unknown Sat Jun 14 18:46:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16976: 24.3.50; Flickering during frame creation for the NS-port with toolbar-mode enabled Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:33:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Konrad Podczeck , 16976@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 16976-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16976.139609637432447 (code B ref 16976); Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:33:01 +0000 Received: (at 16976) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2014 12:32:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55463 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WTsRR-0008RG-Uc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 08:32:54 -0400 Received: from mailfe09.swipnet.se ([212.247.155.1]:48984 helo=swip.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WTsRP-0008R7-0W for 16976@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 08:32:52 -0400 X-T2-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 Received: from hosdjarv.se (account mj138573@tele2.se [46.59.42.57] verified) by mailfe09.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPA id 315348601; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:32:49 +0100 Message-ID: <5336BD71.6040105@swipnet.se> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:32:49 +0100 From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <801316EE-F452-4A27-8104-5BB4FA7BEE31@univie.ac.at> In-Reply-To: <801316EE-F452-4A27-8104-5BB4FA7BEE31@univie.ac.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) Hello. 2014-03-09 20:12, Konrad Podczeck skrev: > Use the key combination C-x 5 2 to open a new frame. During creation of the > new frame, there is an annoying flickering. > > The flickering disappears, however, when tool-bar mode is disabled. > > With or without toolbar-mode, there is no flickering during frame creation > for emacs compiled with the option "--with-x". > > So this flickering seems to be an NS-port specific bug. It is an extra redraw that happens only on NS, i.e. frame is fully drawn, then cleared then redrawn again. I'm not sure where it comes from yet. Jan D. > > > > > > In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin, NS apple-appkit-1038.36) of > 2014-03-09 on bob.porkrind.org Repository revision: > lekktu@gmail.com-20140308222620-e38x03628o8njfqq Windowing system > distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1138 Configured using: `configure > --host=x86_64-apple-darwin --build=i686-apple-darwin --with-ns' > > Important settings: locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix > > Major mode: LaTeX > > Minor modes in effect: shell-dirtrack-mode: t tooltip-mode: t > electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: > t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t > blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t > auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t > > Recent input: C-x C-f d o c u m a n t s > e n t s / t e x f i l e s / b a l a t 2 > - t e x . t e x > C-x C-f p u r i f . t e x M-x f i n d - f i l e - o SPC SPC > > C-x 5 2 < send-emacs-bug-report> > > Recent messages: Error: (file-error "Cannot open load file" "no such file > or directory" "tex-site") For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU > system, type C-h C-a. balat2.tex has auto save data; consider M-x > recover-this-file purif.tex has auto save data; consider M-x > recover-this-file Making completion list... read-file-name-default: No file > name specified [2 times] > > Load-path shadows: None found. > > Features: (shadow sort gnus-util mail-extr emacsbug message format-spec > rfc822 mml mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 > mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums > mm-util help-fns mail-prsvr mail-utils help-mode tex-mode compile shell > pcomplete comint ansi-color ring latexenc info easymenu package time-date > tooltip electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel ns-win > tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment > lisp-mode prog-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select > scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham > georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean > japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian > cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev > minibuffer nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files > text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom > widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process cocoa ns > multi-tty emacs) > > From unknown Sat Jun 14 18:46:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16976: 24.3.50; Flickering during frame creation for the NS-port with toolbar-mode enabled Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:57:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Cc: konrad.podczeck@univie.ac.at, 16976@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 16976-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16976.13960978112447 (code B ref 16976); Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:57:02 +0000 Received: (at 16976) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2014 12:56:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55474 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WTsoc-0000dO-2N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 08:56:50 -0400 Received: from mtaout28.012.net.il ([80.179.55.184]:41189) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WTsoW-0000d4-PC for 16976@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 08:56:46 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout28.012.net.il by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N3700I007GZSI00@mtaout28.012.net.il> for 16976@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 15:56:24 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N3700AG77Y0X990@mtaout28.012.net.il>; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 15:56:24 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 15:56:47 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <5336BD71.6040105@swipnet.se> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83fvm1duy8.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <801316EE-F452-4A27-8104-5BB4FA7BEE31@univie.ac.at> <5336BD71.6040105@swipnet.se> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:32:49 +0100 > From: Jan Djärv > > It is an extra redraw that happens only on NS, i.e. frame is fully drawn, then > cleared then redrawn again. I'm not sure where it comes from yet. Maybe someone sets the frame's garbaged flag? From unknown Sat Jun 14 18:46:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16976: 24.3.50; Flickering during frame creation for the NS-port with toolbar-mode enabled Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:17:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: konrad.podczeck@univie.ac.at, 16976@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 16976-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16976.13960989714457 (code B ref 16976); Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:17:02 +0000 Received: (at 16976) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2014 13:16:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55491 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WTt7L-00019p-FT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 09:16:11 -0400 Received: from mailfe04.swip.net ([212.247.154.97]:36828 helo=swip.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WTt7J-00019g-DR for 16976@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 09:16:10 -0400 X-T2-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 Received: from hosdjarv.se (account mj138573@tele2.se [46.59.42.57] verified) by mailfe04.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPA id 487250248; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 14:16:04 +0100 Message-ID: <5336C794.4000203@swipnet.se> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 14:16:04 +0100 From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <801316EE-F452-4A27-8104-5BB4FA7BEE31@univie.ac.at> <5336BD71.6040105@swipnet.se> <83fvm1duy8.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83fvm1duy8.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Hello. 2014-03-29 13:56, Eli Zaretskii skrev: >> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:32:49 +0100 >> From: Jan Djärv >> >> It is an extra redraw that happens only on NS, i.e. frame is fully drawn, then >> cleared then redrawn again. I'm not sure where it comes from yet. > > Maybe someone sets the frame's garbaged flag? > I made SET_FRAME_GARBAGED a no-op, it still does a double redraw. Jan D. From unknown Sat Jun 14 18:46:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16976: 24.3.50; Flickering during frame creation for the NS-port with toolbar-mode enabled Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:23:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Cc: konrad.podczeck@univie.ac.at, 16976@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 16976-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16976.13960993435211 (code B ref 16976); Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:23:01 +0000 Received: (at 16976) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2014 13:22:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55513 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WTtDK-0001Ly-8g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 09:22:22 -0400 Received: from mtaout24.012.net.il ([80.179.55.180]:58751) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WTtDH-0001Lp-Jv for 16976@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 09:22:20 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout24.012.net.il by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N3700H008FDK100@mtaout24.012.net.il> for 16976@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:20:17 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N3700BW491QWP70@mtaout24.012.net.il>; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:20:17 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:22:20 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <5336C794.4000203@swipnet.se> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83bnwpdtrn.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <801316EE-F452-4A27-8104-5BB4FA7BEE31@univie.ac.at> <5336BD71.6040105@swipnet.se> <83fvm1duy8.fsf@gnu.org> <5336C794.4000203@swipnet.se> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 14:16:04 +0100 > From: Jan Djärv > CC: konrad.podczeck@univie.ac.at, 16976@debbugs.gnu.org > > I made SET_FRAME_GARBAGED a no-op, it still does a double redraw. Do you see 2 consecutive calls to update_window_tree? From unknown Sat Jun 14 18:46:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16976: 24.3.50; Flickering during frame creation for the NS-port with toolbar-mode enabled Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 15:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Konrad Podczeck Cc: 16976@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 16976-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16976.139610572820608 (code B ref 16976); Sat, 29 Mar 2014 15:09:02 +0000 Received: (at 16976) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2014 15:08:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56299 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WTusK-0005MK-DM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 11:08:48 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:63872) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WTusH-0005MA-HY for 16976@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 11:08:46 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N3700H00DP4J300@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 16976@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 18:08:01 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N3700HYUE1DJN00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 18:08:01 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 18:08:01 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <7761f1b97fd0e679a65e8d5629419ded@univie.ac.at> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <8361mxdovi.fsf@gnu.org> References: <801316EE-F452-4A27-8104-5BB4FA7BEE31@univie.ac.at> <5336BD71.6040105@swipnet.se> <83fvm1duy8.fsf@gnu.org> <5336C794.4000203@swipnet.se> <83bnwpdtrn.fsf@gnu.org> <7761f1b97fd0e679a65e8d5629419ded@univie.ac.at> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > From: Konrad Podczeck > Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:10:04 +0100 > > Maybe the following information gives some hint. Some days ago I looked > at the historical builds on http://emacsformacosx.com/builds/all, and > it seemed to me that the bug became manifest the first time in the > build made available at 2012-09-12. When was the previous build? Anyway, the only one near that date that looks relevant is revision 109972. From unknown Sat Jun 14 18:46:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16976: 24.3.50; Flickering during frame creation for the NS-port with toolbar-mode enabled Resent-From: Konrad Podczeck Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 15:54:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 16976@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 16976-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16976.139610838924840 (code B ref 16976); Sat, 29 Mar 2014 15:54:01 +0000 Received: (at 16976) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2014 15:53:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56308 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WTvZE-0006Sa-Ks for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 11:53:08 -0400 Received: from grace.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.115]:38555) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WTvZA-0006SP-Sk for 16976@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 11:53:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=univie.ac.at; s=rev2; h=To:Date:Subject:From:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To; bh=yVgzuvK0NKzUkIsOOOV1fcJkzelrdiUN+R4xLHT8RSs=; b=btdWTtF3OJ9cHNBOC6ktdwJ7yDZn5PF0MvsRumbUKzjgPIXC8STv5et9u4bauBoHAk9AS/tRhsdKH+kv6jaVdqhnFLhESI3K6+vH7EBAyinkcX8YQg9yv2uIteTNKk63Nh9AuKoZH4W0OU55tQFjWHxbj+zUO7eeimTguKYGyE4=; Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1WTvZ9-0007py-AC; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:53:03 +0100 Received: from 188-23-217-240.adsl.highway.telekom.at ([188.23.217.240] helo=[10.0.0.5]) by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1WTvZ9-0007vJ-7D; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:53:03 +0100 In-Reply-To: <8361mxdovi.fsf@gnu.org> References: <801316EE-F452-4A27-8104-5BB4FA7BEE31@univie.ac.at> <5336BD71.6040105@swipnet.se> <83fvm1duy8.fsf@gnu.org> <5336C794.4000203@swipnet.se> <83bnwpdtrn.fsf@gnu.org> <7761f1b97fd0e679a65e8d5629419ded@univie.ac.at> <8361mxdovi.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Konrad Podczeck Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 17:02:22 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Univie-Virus-Scan: scanned by ClamAV on justin.univie.ac.at X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) The build before was made available at 2012-09-11. The revision numbers appearing in the diff-file of the build from 2012-09-11 do not contain 109972, they range from 109976 to 109989 On 29.03.2014, at 16:08, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Konrad Podczeck >> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:10:04 +0100 >> >> Maybe the following information gives some hint. Some days ago I >> looked >> at the historical builds on http://emacsformacosx.com/builds/all, and >> it seemed to me that the bug became manifest the first time in the >> build made available at 2012-09-12. > > When was the previous build? > > Anyway, the only one near that date that looks relevant is revision > 109972. From unknown Sat Jun 14 18:46:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16976: 24.3.50; Flickering during frame creation for the NS-port with toolbar-mode enabled Resent-From: Konrad Podczeck Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 15:57:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Konrad Podczeck Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 16976@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 16976-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16976.139610858325175 (code B ref 16976); Sat, 29 Mar 2014 15:57:02 +0000 Received: (at 16976) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2014 15:56:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56312 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WTvcM-0006Xz-FK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 11:56:22 -0400 Received: from grace.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.115]:38647) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WTvcJ-0006Xq-Hn for 16976@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 11:56:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=univie.ac.at; s=rev2; h=To:Date:Subject:From:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To; bh=sOkLMMyx8ueiEddhIuKg2b14j+7oHl4eDO27WPGbaQE=; b=A4xDmHknNt83AOurOpr8+KsxP91g1E++JZfem319gVuYBp5xXL/vgWPTO+F9r27akjFdXa+KPZ6tnyvQAy10c1sUZqO4K5E/tVPdSfWP3Nymb2SuD14gr/N4evkmV/iXpEIv8o//Tboo5ECJX7WPnDYC0vUnpUiJnEW2JLVM+ak=; Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1WTvcJ-0008Ap-0l; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:56:19 +0100 Received: from 188-23-217-240.adsl.highway.telekom.at ([188.23.217.240] helo=[10.0.0.5]) by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1WTvcI-00083S-TB; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:56:18 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <801316EE-F452-4A27-8104-5BB4FA7BEE31@univie.ac.at> <5336BD71.6040105@swipnet.se> <83fvm1duy8.fsf@gnu.org> <5336C794.4000203@swipnet.se> <83bnwpdtrn.fsf@gnu.org> <7761f1b97fd0e679a65e8d5629419ded@univie.ac.at> <8361mxdovi.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <5bd19ebdbda17609f8568f911085dc91@univie.ac.at> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Konrad Podczeck Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 17:05:39 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Univie-Virus-Scan: scanned by ClamAV on justin.univie.ac.at X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Sorry. I meant the revision number in the build from 2012-09-12, that showing the bug the first time. On 29.03.2014, at 17:02, Konrad Podczeck wrote: > The build before was made available at 2012-09-11. The revision > numbers appearing in the diff-file of the build from 2012-09-11 do not > contain 109972, they range from 109976 to 109989 > > > On 29.03.2014, at 16:08, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >>> From: Konrad Podczeck >>> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:10:04 +0100 >>> >>> Maybe the following information gives some hint. Some days ago I >>> looked >>> at the historical builds on http://emacsformacosx.com/builds/all, and >>> it seemed to me that the bug became manifest the first time in the >>> build made available at 2012-09-12. >> >> When was the previous build? >> >> Anyway, the only one near that date that looks relevant is revision >> 109972. > From unknown Sat Jun 14 18:46:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16976: 24.3.50; Flickering during frame creation for the NS-port with toolbar-mode enabled Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:14:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Konrad Podczeck Cc: konrad.podczeck@univie.ac.at, 16976@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 16976-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16976.139610963826828 (code B ref 16976); Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:14:02 +0000 Received: (at 16976) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2014 16:13:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56320 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WTvtN-0006yd-AM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:13:57 -0400 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:55963) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WTvtJ-0006yR-4J for 16976@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:13:54 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N3700F00GYZ2G00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 16976@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 19:13:51 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N3700EHWH31ZE60@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 19:13:49 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 19:13:49 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <5bd19ebdbda17609f8568f911085dc91@univie.ac.at> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <834n2hdltu.fsf@gnu.org> References: <801316EE-F452-4A27-8104-5BB4FA7BEE31@univie.ac.at> <5336BD71.6040105@swipnet.se> <83fvm1duy8.fsf@gnu.org> <5336C794.4000203@swipnet.se> <83bnwpdtrn.fsf@gnu.org> <7761f1b97fd0e679a65e8d5629419ded@univie.ac.at> <8361mxdovi.fsf@gnu.org> <5bd19ebdbda17609f8568f911085dc91@univie.ac.at> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , > 16976@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Konrad Podczeck > Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 17:05:39 +0100 > > Sorry. I meant the revision number in the build from 2012-09-12, that > showing the bug the first time. > > > On 29.03.2014, at 17:02, Konrad Podczeck wrote: > > > The build before was made available at 2012-09-11. The revision > > numbers appearing in the diff-file of the build from 2012-09-11 do not > > contain 109972, they range from 109976 to 109989 Than perhaps 109984? From unknown Sat Jun 14 18:46:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16976: 24.3.50; Flickering during frame creation for the NS-port with toolbar-mode enabled Resent-From: "Jan D." Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: konrad.podczeck@univie.ac.at, 16976@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 16976-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16976.139611053328288 (code B ref 16976); Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:29:02 +0000 Received: (at 16976) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2014 16:28:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56326 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WTw7o-0007MB-Is for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:28:53 -0400 Received: from mailfe04.swip.net ([212.247.154.97]:51863 helo=swip.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WTw7k-0007Ln-JN for 16976@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:28:50 -0400 X-T2-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 Received: from hosdjarv.se (account mj138573@tele2.se [46.59.42.57] verified) by mailfe04.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPA id 487272673; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 17:28:43 +0100 Message-ID: <5336F4BA.6070302@swipnet.se> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 17:28:42 +0100 From: "Jan D." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <801316EE-F452-4A27-8104-5BB4FA7BEE31@univie.ac.at> <5336BD71.6040105@swipnet.se> <83fvm1duy8.fsf@gnu.org> <5336C794.4000203@swipnet.se> <83bnwpdtrn.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83bnwpdtrn.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii skrev 2014-03-29 14:22: >> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 14:16:04 +0100 >> From: Jan Djärv >> CC: konrad.podczeck@univie.ac.at, 16976@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> I made SET_FRAME_GARBAGED a no-op, it still does a double redraw. > > Do you see 2 consecutive calls to update_window_tree? > Well, it is difficult to tell as this function is called on mouse movement and on every key stroke and on every blink of the cursor. But turning off blink cursor, and testing with and without toolbar gives 3 calls. Jan D. From unknown Sat Jun 14 18:46:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16976: 24.3.50; Flickering during frame creation for the NS-port with toolbar-mode enabled Resent-From: "Jan D." Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 17:00:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Konrad Podczeck Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 16976@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 16976-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16976.139611235231323 (code B ref 16976); Sat, 29 Mar 2014 17:00:03 +0000 Received: (at 16976) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2014 16:59:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56334 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WTwb9-000898-1U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:59:11 -0400 Received: from mailfe01.swip.net ([212.247.154.1]:54494 helo=swip.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WTwas-00088S-9z for 16976@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:59:08 -0400 X-T2-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 Received: from hosdjarv.se (account mj138573@tele2.se [46.59.42.57] verified) by mailfe01.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPA id 491690308; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 17:58:52 +0100 Message-ID: <5336FBCE.1070506@swipnet.se> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 17:58:54 +0100 From: "Jan D." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <801316EE-F452-4A27-8104-5BB4FA7BEE31@univie.ac.at> <5336BD71.6040105@swipnet.se> <83fvm1duy8.fsf@gnu.org> <5336C794.4000203@swipnet.se> <83bnwpdtrn.fsf@gnu.org> <7761f1b97fd0e679a65e8d5629419ded@univie.ac.at> <8361mxdovi.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Hello. Konrad Podczeck skrev 2014-03-29 17:02: > The build before was made available at 2012-09-11. The revision numbers > appearing in the diff-file of the build from 2012-09-11 do not contain > 109972, they range from 109976 to 109989 That implies 109984. But reverting that does not help. Jan D. > > > On 29.03.2014, at 16:08, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >>> From: Konrad Podczeck >>> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:10:04 +0100 >>> >>> Maybe the following information gives some hint. Some days ago I looked >>> at the historical builds on http://emacsformacosx.com/builds/all, and >>> it seemed to me that the bug became manifest the first time in the >>> build made available at 2012-09-12. >> >> When was the previous build? >> >> Anyway, the only one near that date that looks relevant is revision >> 109972. > > > From unknown Sat Jun 14 18:46:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16976: 24.3.50; Flickering during frame creation for the NS-port with toolbar-mode enabled Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 17:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Jan D." Cc: konrad.podczeck@univie.ac.at, 16976@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 16976-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16976.139611288232229 (code B ref 16976); Sat, 29 Mar 2014 17:09:02 +0000 Received: (at 16976) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2014 17:08:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56339 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WTwjh-0008Nh-NB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:08:02 -0400 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:58459) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WTwje-0008NC-2T for 16976@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:07:59 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N3700F00JH18G00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 16976@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 20:07:56 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N3700FGWJL75N50@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 20:07:56 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 20:07:56 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <5336F4BA.6070302@swipnet.se> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <8338i1djbn.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <801316EE-F452-4A27-8104-5BB4FA7BEE31@univie.ac.at> <5336BD71.6040105@swipnet.se> <83fvm1duy8.fsf@gnu.org> <5336C794.4000203@swipnet.se> <83bnwpdtrn.fsf@gnu.org> <5336F4BA.6070302@swipnet.se> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 17:28:42 +0100 > From: "Jan D." > CC: konrad.podczeck@univie.ac.at, 16976@debbugs.gnu.org > > Eli Zaretskii skrev 2014-03-29 14:22: > >> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 14:16:04 +0100 > >> From: Jan Djärv > >> CC: konrad.podczeck@univie.ac.at, 16976@debbugs.gnu.org > >> > >> I made SET_FRAME_GARBAGED a no-op, it still does a double redraw. > > > > Do you see 2 consecutive calls to update_window_tree? > > > > Well, it is difficult to tell as this function is called on mouse > movement and on every key stroke and on every blink of the cursor. > But turning off blink cursor, and testing with and without toolbar gives > 3 calls. Maybe I'm missing something here, so let me take a step back. You said earlier that you see the frame cleared and redrawn. I'm asking if you can trace this clearing and redrawing to any of the calls to update_frame or update_window_tree. From unknown Sat Jun 14 18:46:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16976: 24.3.50; Flickering during frame creation for the NS-port with toolbar-mode enabled Resent-From: "Jan D." Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 17:53:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: konrad.podczeck@univie.ac.at, 16976@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 16976-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16976.13961155714137 (code B ref 16976); Sat, 29 Mar 2014 17:53:01 +0000 Received: (at 16976) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2014 17:52:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56362 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WTxR3-00014b-Pu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:52:50 -0400 Received: from mailfe09.tele2.se ([212.247.155.1]:45127 helo=swip.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WTxQz-00014J-Vy for 16976@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:52:47 -0400 X-T2-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 Received: from hosdjarv.se (account mj138573@tele2.se [46.59.42.57] verified) by mailfe09.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPA id 315390651; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 18:52:43 +0100 Message-ID: <5337086D.2050708@swipnet.se> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 18:52:45 +0100 From: "Jan D." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <801316EE-F452-4A27-8104-5BB4FA7BEE31@univie.ac.at> <5336BD71.6040105@swipnet.se> <83fvm1duy8.fsf@gnu.org> <5336C794.4000203@swipnet.se> <83bnwpdtrn.fsf@gnu.org> <5336F4BA.6070302@swipnet.se> <8338i1djbn.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <8338i1djbn.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Hello. Eli Zaretskii skrev 2014-03-29 18:07: >> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 17:28:42 +0100 >> From: "Jan D." >> CC: konrad.podczeck@univie.ac.at, 16976@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> Eli Zaretskii skrev 2014-03-29 14:22: >>>> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 14:16:04 +0100 >>>> From: Jan Djärv >>>> CC: konrad.podczeck@univie.ac.at, 16976@debbugs.gnu.org >>>> >>>> I made SET_FRAME_GARBAGED a no-op, it still does a double redraw. >>> >>> Do you see 2 consecutive calls to update_window_tree? >>> >> >> Well, it is difficult to tell as this function is called on mouse >> movement and on every key stroke and on every blink of the cursor. >> But turning off blink cursor, and testing with and without toolbar gives >> 3 calls. > > Maybe I'm missing something here, so let me take a step back. You > said earlier that you see the frame cleared and redrawn. I'm asking > if you can trace this clearing and redrawing to any of the calls to > update_frame or update_window_tree. > It seems the clearing is done because of an expose. If we don't have a toolbar, NS thinks the frame is up to date when the event loop is entered after the first redisplay is done. But if we have a toolbar NS thinks the frame is out of date and needs redrawing, thus sending an expose event (well, drawRect in NS speek) that does not happen without the toolbar. So the clearing is already done when Emacs code is entered. I don't know why we did not get this expose before, but much has happened, i.e. pixelwise resizing, event loop changes and more. Maybe the generic code changed, because update_frame_tool_bar is called four times when a new frame is created. NS does not have an "up-to-date" check on the toolbar, so it just recreates it. This may be the cause. Jan D. From unknown Sat Jun 14 18:46:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16976: 24.3.50; Flickering during frame creation for the NS-port with toolbar-mode enabled Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 19:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Jan D." Cc: konrad.podczeck@univie.ac.at, 16976@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 16976-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16976.139612218419226 (code B ref 16976); Sat, 29 Mar 2014 19:44:02 +0000 Received: (at 16976) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2014 19:43:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56415 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WTz9j-000502-HU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 15:43:03 -0400 Received: from mtaout25.012.net.il ([80.179.55.181]:39212) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WTz9f-0004zZ-1J for 16976@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 15:43:00 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout25.012.net.il by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N3700B00Q633G00@mtaout25.012.net.il> for 16976@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 22:41:35 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout25.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N3700AN6QPAQ520@mtaout25.012.net.il>; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 22:41:35 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 22:42:57 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <5337086D.2050708@swipnet.se> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83zjk8dc5a.fsf@gnu.org> References: <801316EE-F452-4A27-8104-5BB4FA7BEE31@univie.ac.at> <5336BD71.6040105@swipnet.se> <83fvm1duy8.fsf@gnu.org> <5336C794.4000203@swipnet.se> <83bnwpdtrn.fsf@gnu.org> <5336F4BA.6070302@swipnet.se> <8338i1djbn.fsf@gnu.org> <5337086D.2050708@swipnet.se> X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) > Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 18:52:45 +0100 > From: "Jan D." > CC: konrad.podczeck@univie.ac.at, 16976@debbugs.gnu.org > > It seems the clearing is done because of an expose. Yes, that was my second suspect. From unknown Sat Jun 14 18:46:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16976: 24.3.50; Flickering during frame creation for the NS-port with toolbar-mode enabled Resent-From: "Jan D." Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 17:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: konrad.podczeck@univie.ac.at, 16976@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 16976-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16976.13962001796123 (code B ref 16976); Sun, 30 Mar 2014 17:23:02 +0000 Received: (at 16976) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Mar 2014 17:22:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57244 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WUJRi-0001ag-Cj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 13:22:58 -0400 Received: from mailfe09.swip.net ([212.247.155.1]:49281 helo=swip.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WUJRf-0001aV-EI for 16976@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 13:22:57 -0400 X-T2-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 Received: from hosdjarv.se (account mj138573@tele2.se [46.59.42.57] verified) by mailfe09.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPA id 315572098; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 19:22:48 +0200 Message-ID: <533852E4.9060706@swipnet.se> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 19:22:44 +0200 From: "Jan D." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <801316EE-F452-4A27-8104-5BB4FA7BEE31@univie.ac.at> <5336BD71.6040105@swipnet.se> <83fvm1duy8.fsf@gnu.org> <5336C794.4000203@swipnet.se> <83bnwpdtrn.fsf@gnu.org> <5336F4BA.6070302@swipnet.se> <8338i1djbn.fsf@gnu.org> <5337086D.2050708@swipnet.se> <83zjk8dc5a.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83zjk8dc5a.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Hello. Eli Zaretskii skrev 2014-03-29 20:42: >> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 18:52:45 +0100 >> From: "Jan D." >> CC: konrad.podczeck@univie.ac.at, 16976@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> It seems the clearing is done because of an expose. > > Yes, that was my second suspect. > I have checked in a fix in trunk that avoids redrawing until the tool bar is up to date. Please try it. Jan D. From unknown Sat Jun 14 18:46:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16976: 24.3.50; Flickering during frame creation for the NS-port with toolbar-mode enabled Resent-From: Darren Hoo Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 02:16:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Jan D." Cc: Eli Zaretskii , konrad.podczeck@univie.ac.at, 16976@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 16976-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16976.13962321045901 (code B ref 16976); Mon, 31 Mar 2014 02:16:01 +0000 Received: (at 16976) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2014 02:15:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57464 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WURkd-0001X6-L6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 22:15:04 -0400 Received: from mail-qg0-f44.google.com ([209.85.192.44]:40676) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WURka-0001WP-Lt for 16976@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 22:15:01 -0400 Received: by mail-qg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id a108so6825956qge.31 for <16976@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 19:15:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=vq8nIGfKVDXiafiPgKmXS6gxRefsQSTsM4RYSbqdk1o=; b=A7fxv2f6lfP31QBsXWjy55JVC3cZzx5tcMBNe2nFmptnfCLq4gPw1jL9FyIU7uwDlz uuFwzIeuloLiLQdHPk0eBCmR70YR2Xld5S0tD5mHFBMzA8v/3aVkyMVD2j1ekZ9GPJYY /Cy0PvqRZEdjW4449A+CDkWE/V6BPXlXVfAjmV37TXbTGOV6uVktdxHrtdG6QeW0ymx3 BAk5R35kJIIdT1/RgAtlwgrL7vPE9/9SLQvMp0femLX8c6hb7TTaCtiBphjvE6rhxsFu B8oGrwYcWuSyjH9VNQ59KIdV3DlREKuAA0P1MlgvM6FhK3USF84q6U9kICvvAR+CxtRE idnA== X-Received: by 10.140.89.234 with SMTP id v97mr23325229qgd.20.1396232100115; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 19:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Darren-rMBP.local ([107.170.66.160]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g20sm25652350qaq.4.2014.03.30.19.14.53 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 30 Mar 2014 19:14:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Darren Hoo References: <801316EE-F452-4A27-8104-5BB4FA7BEE31@univie.ac.at> <5336BD71.6040105@swipnet.se> <83fvm1duy8.fsf@gnu.org> <5336C794.4000203@swipnet.se> <83bnwpdtrn.fsf@gnu.org> <5336F4BA.6070302@swipnet.se> <8338i1djbn.fsf@gnu.org> <5337086D.2050708@swipnet.se> <83zjk8dc5a.fsf@gnu.org> <533852E4.9060706@swipnet.se> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 10:14:48 +0800 In-Reply-To: <533852E4.9060706@swipnet.se> (Jan D.'s message of "Sun, 30 Mar 2014 19:22:44 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) "Jan D." writes: > Hello. > > Eli Zaretskii skrev 2014-03-29 20:42: >>> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 18:52:45 +0100 >>> From: "Jan D." >>> CC: konrad.podczeck@univie.ac.at, 16976@debbugs.gnu.org >>> >>> It seems the clearing is done because of an expose. >> >> Yes, that was my second suspect. >> > > I have checked in a fix in trunk that avoids redrawing until the tool > bar is up to date. Please try it. > The fix has problem when tool-bar is disabled at startup, ie, the window won't change its size accordingly upon the frame resizing. step to reproduce: $ open Emacs.app --args -Q \ -eval "(custom-set-variable'(tool-bar-mode nil))" then try to resize the frame you'll see that the size of the buffer window, the echo area all stay unchanged. From unknown Sat Jun 14 18:46:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16976: 24.3.50; Flickering during frame creation for the NS-port with toolbar-mode enabled Resent-From: "Jan D." Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 06:22:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Darren Hoo Cc: Eli Zaretskii , konrad.podczeck@univie.ac.at, 16976@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 16976-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16976.139624686930409 (code B ref 16976); Mon, 31 Mar 2014 06:22:01 +0000 Received: (at 16976) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2014 06:21:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57549 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WUVam-0007uO-QU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 02:21:09 -0400 Received: from mailfe07.swip.net ([212.247.154.193]:58748 helo=swip.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WUVah-0007uC-DB for 16976@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 02:21:07 -0400 X-T2-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 Received: from hosdjarv.se (account mj138573@tele2.se [46.59.42.57] verified) by mailfe07.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPA id 488620370; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 08:21:01 +0200 Received: from jdvpro.hq.ismobile.com (unknown [176.57.193.190]) (Authenticated sender: jhd) by hosdjarv.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7D4441A057D; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 06:21:01 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5339094E.9090808@swipnet.se> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 08:21:02 +0200 From: "Jan D." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <801316EE-F452-4A27-8104-5BB4FA7BEE31@univie.ac.at> <5336BD71.6040105@swipnet.se> <83fvm1duy8.fsf@gnu.org> <5336C794.4000203@swipnet.se> <83bnwpdtrn.fsf@gnu.org> <5336F4BA.6070302@swipnet.se> <8338i1djbn.fsf@gnu.org> <5337086D.2050708@swipnet.se> <83zjk8dc5a.fsf@gnu.org> <533852E4.9060706@swipnet.se> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Hello. Darren Hoo skrev 2014-03-31 04:14: > "Jan D." writes: > >> Hello. >> >> Eli Zaretskii skrev 2014-03-29 20:42: >>>> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 18:52:45 +0100 >>>> From: "Jan D." >>>> CC: konrad.podczeck@univie.ac.at, 16976@debbugs.gnu.org >>>> >>>> It seems the clearing is done because of an expose. >>> >>> Yes, that was my second suspect. >>> >> >> I have checked in a fix in trunk that avoids redrawing until the tool >> bar is up to date. Please try it. >> > > The fix has problem when tool-bar is disabled at startup, ie, the > window won't change its size accordingly upon the frame resizing. > > step to reproduce: > > $ open Emacs.app --args -Q \ > -eval "(custom-set-variable'(tool-bar-mode nil))" > eval: Symbol's function definition is void: custom-set-variable > then try to resize the frame you'll see that the size of the buffer > window, the echo area all stay unchanged. > Should be fixed now. Jan D. From unknown Sat Jun 14 18:46:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16976: 24.3.50; Flickering during frame creation for the NS-port with toolbar-mode enabled Resent-From: Konrad Podczeck Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 17:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Jan D." Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 16976@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 16976-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16976.13962875994265 (code B ref 16976); Mon, 31 Mar 2014 17:40:02 +0000 Received: (at 16976) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2014 17:39:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58132 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WUgBj-00016j-1H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 13:39:59 -0400 Received: from grace.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.115]:39629) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WUgBg-00016V-Bh for 16976@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 13:39:57 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=univie.ac.at; s=rev2; h=To:References:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject; bh=JOW1Kxoy8IDi7CIx4l01EhNz3wa+2cSAL1K/cZYm1Qk=; b=aFFYfHwIy4h/oBZ+Q67vucegNsbCmqQE3+pdBhjdtF7FkSs0xLU48lE7WYsvLMi2BZ8hy23tjMPKaA41ULYqle7eJqqtu/Hbs5irnW6oVF8CgWx4nvqAuegBlyLU+seSZBIenZP3vBSkO1z54Q3bFH8Z5mzyKz4ZG18y5/3zrWQ=; Received: from justin.univie.ac.at ([131.130.3.111] helo=justin.univie.ac.at) by grace.univie.ac.at with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1WUgBe-0001Tq-TW; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 19:39:54 +0200 Received: from [84.113.246.80] (helo=[192.168.0.11]) by justin.univie.ac.at with esmtpsa (TLSv1:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1WUgBe-0005iw-R7; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 19:39:54 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Konrad Podczeck In-Reply-To: <533852E4.9060706@swipnet.se> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 19:39:53 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <801316EE-F452-4A27-8104-5BB4FA7BEE31@univie.ac.at> <5336BD71.6040105@swipnet.se> <83fvm1duy8.fsf@gnu.org> <5336C794.4000203@swipnet.se> <83bnwpdtrn.fsf@gnu.org> <5336F4BA.6070302@swipnet.se> <8338i1djbn.fsf@gnu.org> <5337086D.2050708@swipnet.se> <83zjk8dc5a.fsf@gnu.org> <533852E4.9060706@swipnet.se> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Univie-Virus-Scan: scanned by ClamAV on justin.univie.ac.at X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) Thanks, Jan. Works. Big improvement. Konrad Podczeck Am 30.03.2014 um 19:22 schrieb Jan D.: > Hello. >=20 > Eli Zaretskii skrev 2014-03-29 20:42: >>> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 18:52:45 +0100 >>> From: "Jan D." >>> CC: konrad.podczeck@univie.ac.at, 16976@debbugs.gnu.org >>>=20 >>> It seems the clearing is done because of an expose. >>=20 >> Yes, that was my second suspect. >>=20 >=20 > I have checked in a fix in trunk that avoids redrawing until the tool = bar is up to date. Please try it. >=20 > Jan D. >=20 From unknown Sat Jun 14 18:46:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16976: 24.3.50; Flickering during frame creation for the NS-port with toolbar-mode enabled Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 17:52:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Jan D." Cc: 16976@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 16976-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16976.13962883055399 (code B ref 16976); Mon, 31 Mar 2014 17:52:01 +0000 Received: (at 16976) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2014 17:51:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58142 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WUgN6-0001P0-8z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 13:51:44 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:39863) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WUgN3-0001Oq-8Y for 16976@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 13:51:42 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WUgN1-0006GB-18; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 13:51:39 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <801316EE-F452-4A27-8104-5BB4FA7BEE31@univie.ac.at> <5336BD71.6040105@swipnet.se> <83fvm1duy8.fsf@gnu.org> <5336C794.4000203@swipnet.se> <83bnwpdtrn.fsf@gnu.org> <5336F4BA.6070302@swipnet.se> <8338i1djbn.fsf@gnu.org> <5337086D.2050708@swipnet.se> <83zjk8dc5a.fsf@gnu.org> <533852E4.9060706@swipnet.se> X-Spook: Agfa Ermes Consul MILSATCOM satellite imagery Aladdin X-Ran: 1|y0?cY{}On)&Og4?oA6xB3Z5c.4hx!J>Y (Konrad Podczeck's message of "Mon, 31 Mar 2014 19:39:53 +0200") Message-ID: <7uzjk66ytx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) Is this a fix that should be in emacs-24? The symptoms sounds like they could annoy many NS users. I haven't understood if 24.3 had the same issue though. From unknown Sat Jun 14 18:46:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16976: 24.3.50; Flickering during frame creation for the NS-port with toolbar-mode enabled Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2014 10:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16976 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: 16976@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 16976-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16976.13964334274696 (code B ref 16976); Wed, 02 Apr 2014 10:11:02 +0000 Received: (at 16976) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Apr 2014 10:10:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60367 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WVI7m-0001Df-BS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 06:10:26 -0400 Received: from mailfe04.swip.net ([212.247.154.97]:35329 helo=swip.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WVI7h-0001DT-JQ for 16976@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 06:10:23 -0400 X-T2-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 Received: from hosdjarv.se (account mj138573@tele2.se [46.59.42.57] verified) by mailfe04.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPA id 488236962; Wed, 02 Apr 2014 12:10:19 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= In-Reply-To: <7uzjk66ytx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 12:10:18 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <8E221688-ECA3-4C74-9651-5CA8AF5892A6@swipnet.se> References: <801316EE-F452-4A27-8104-5BB4FA7BEE31@univie.ac.at> <5336BD71.6040105@swipnet.se> <83fvm1duy8.fsf@gnu.org> <5336C794.4000203@swipnet.se> <83bnwpdtrn.fsf@gnu.org> <5336F4BA.6070302@swipnet.se> <8338i1djbn.fsf@gnu.org> <5337086D.2050708@swipnet.se> <83zjk8dc5a.fsf@gnu.org> <533852E4.9060706@swipnet.se> <7uzjk66ytx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Hello. 31 mar 2014 kl. 19:51 skrev Glenn Morris : > > Is this a fix that should be in emacs-24? I must check possible impact on GnuStep first. > The symptoms sounds like they could annoy many NS users. > I haven't understood if 24.3 had the same issue though. It has. Jan D. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 04 17:37:04 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Apr 2014 21:37:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35713 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WWBnL-00068l-10 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 17:37:03 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:50555) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WWBnI-00068L-3g for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 17:37:00 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WWBnH-0001XU-O2 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2014 17:36:59 -0400 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 17:36:59 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 16976 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) close 16976 24.4 From unknown Sat Jun 14 18:46:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16976: 24.3.50; Flickering during frame creation for the NS-port with toolbar-mode enabled Resent-From: "Jan D." 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X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11D167) In-Reply-To: <7uzjk66ytx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2014 10:06:58 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <91C31079-0814-4677-AADD-274DA00C688B@swipnet.se> References: <801316EE-F452-4A27-8104-5BB4FA7BEE31@univie.ac.at> <5336BD71.6040105@swipnet.se> <83fvm1duy8.fsf@gnu.org> <5336C794.4000203@swipnet.se> <83bnwpdtrn.fsf@gnu.org> <5336F4BA.6070302@swipnet.se> <8338i1djbn.fsf@gnu.org> <5337086D.2050708@swipnet.se> <83zjk8dc5a.fsf@gnu.org> <533852E4.9060706@swipnet.se> <7uzjk66ytx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) --Apple-Mail-11058F54-9202-456A-B485-9EAB486F7D45 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. > 31 mar 2014 kl. 19:51 skrev Glenn Morris : > > > Is this a fix that should be in emacs-24? Backported. Jan D. --Apple-Mail-11058F54-9202-456A-B485-9EAB486F7D45 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi.

31 mar 2014 kl. 19:51 skrev Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>:


Is this a fix that should be in emacs-24?

Backported.

     Jan D.

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