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24.2; nlinum version 1.2 does not work correctly with indirect buffers

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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Mark Lillibridge <mdl <at> alum.mit.edu>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org, monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: 24.2; nlinum version 1.2 does not work correctly with indirect buffers
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 11:30:48 -0800

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Please write in English if possible, as the Emacs maintainers
usually do not have translators for other languages.

Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug, and
the precise symptoms of the bug.  If you can, give a recipe
starting from `emacs -Q':


    emacs24 -q
     ; substitute below path to your copy of nlinum:
    {esc}: (load "/home/mdl/elisp/nlinum") 
    
    {esc}x global-nlinum-mode {enter}
    {ctrl+x}b *scratch* {enter}
    
    {ctrl+x}4c
    
    Hit enter multiple times; observe that line numbers for the new
    lines appear in the original buffer but not the indirect buffer you
    are currently in.  This is a bug: line numbers should be present for
    every line in both buffers.
    
    Type some more text.  Same effect.
    
    Switch to the original buffer via {ctrl+x}o
    Insert some text here.  Note line numbers still missing in indirect buffer.




In GNU Emacs 24.2.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
 of 2013-11-24 on foil
Windowing system distributor `The Cygwin/X Project', version 11.0.11403000
Configured using:
 `configure '--prefix=/home/mdl/bin/emacs-24.2' '--without-gif''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
  default enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Lisp Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
  global-nlinum-mode: t
  nlinum-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
o t h e r SPC n i t o r SPC k SPC C-u 3 <escape> G 
<help-echo> <C-escape> C-: C-g <escape> : C-y <return> 
<help-echo> <escape> x C-y <return> <help-echo> <help-echo> 
<help-echo> C-x b C-y <return> C-x 4 c <return> <return> 
<return> <return> h e l l o <return> C-x o d f b h 
j <return> d k d <return> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-movement> 
<mouse-1> <escape> x b u g <tab> <escape> <backspace> 
C-g <escape> x b u g - <tab> <escape> <backspace> <escape> 
<backspace> r e p <tab> o <tab> r <tab> <return>

Recent messages:
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.
scroll-up-command: End of buffer [3 times]
Quit
Loading /home/mdl/elisp/nlinum...done
t
Global-Nlinum mode enabled
Quit
Making completion list... [2 times]

Load-path shadows:
None found.

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Message #8 received at 16692 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: mdl <at> alum.mit.edu
Cc: 16692 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: Re: bug#16692: 24.2;
 nlinum version 1.2 does not work correctly with indirect buffers
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 21:45:44 +0200

> From: Mark Lillibridge <mdl <at> alum.mit.edu>
> Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 11:30:48 -0800
> 
>     emacs24 -q
>      ; substitute below path to your copy of nlinum:
>     {esc}: (load "/home/mdl/elisp/nlinum") 
>     
>     {esc}x global-nlinum-mode {enter}
>     {ctrl+x}b *scratch* {enter}
>     
>     {ctrl+x}4c

(Whatever happened to the Emacs convention of specifying keystrokes?)

>     Hit enter multiple times; observe that line numbers for the new
>     lines appear in the original buffer but not the indirect buffer you
>     are currently in.  This is a bug: line numbers should be present for
>     every line in both buffers.

Stefan in help-gnu-emacs:

  My recommendation: stay away from indirect-buffers.
  They are an attractive-nuisance.

See

  http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2014-01/msg00575.html

Message #11 received at 16692 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Mark Lillibridge <mdl <at> alum.mit.edu>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 16692 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: Re: bug#16692: 24.2;
 nlinum version 1.2 does not work correctly with indirect buffers
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 12:01:02 -0800

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>  Stefan in help-gnu-emacs:
>  
>    My recommendation: stay away from indirect-buffers.
>    They are an attractive-nuisance.
>  
>  See
>  
>    http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2014-01/msg00575.html

    Is there a good alternative for editing several places in the same
file at once?  E.g., a C++ header file with the class part with
declarations at the top and the inlined member definitions at the end of
the same file.  I find myself losing one of my places when I have to
switch to a different buffer and back again.

- Thanks,
  Mark

Message #14 received at 16692 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: mdl <at> alum.mit.edu
Cc: 16692 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: Re: bug#16692: 24.2;
 nlinum version 1.2 does not work correctly with indirect buffers
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 22:13:16 +0200

> From: Mark Lillibridge <mdl <at> alum.mit.edu>
> Cc: 16692 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca
> Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 12:01:02 -0800
> 
>     Is there a good alternative for editing several places in the same
> file at once?  E.g., a C++ header file with the class part with
> declarations at the top and the inlined member definitions at the end of
> the same file.  I find myself losing one of my places when I have to
> switch to a different buffer and back again.

There are various packages that allow saving and restoring positions,
starting with the mark ring and bookmarks.

Message #17 received at 16692 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Alp Aker <alptekin.aker <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: mdl <at> alum.mit.edu, 16692 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#16692: 24.2; nlinum version 1.2 does not work correctly with
 indirect buffers
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 18:44:47 -0500

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> Is there a good alternative for editing several places in the same
> file at once?  E.g., a C++ header file with the class part with
> declarations at the top and the inlined member definitions at the end of
> the same file.  I find myself losing one of my places when I have to
> switch to a different buffer and back again.

You might want to try setting switch-to-buffer-preserve-window-point to t.

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Message #20 received at 16692 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Mark Lillibridge <mdl <at> alum.mit.edu>
Cc: 16692 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: 24.2;
 nlinum version 1.2 does not work correctly with indirect buffers
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:14:40 -0500

>     Hit enter multiple times; observe that line numbers for the new
>     lines appear in the original buffer but not the indirect buffer you
>     are currently in.  This is a bug: line numbers should be present for
>     every line in both buffers.
    
The core of the problem is that jit-lock relies on text-properties,
i.e. data shared between the indirect buffers, but is run "per buffer".
This can be seen also when you use two indirect buffers in different
major modes, where the font-lock behavior can be erratic, mixing the
rules of the different major modes.

I installed a patch which prevents activation of jit-lock in indirect
buffers.  In practice this means that nlinum-mode should now work
correctly in the base buffer but will not work at all in the
indirect buffer.
IOW, problem is still present but it fails more cleanly ;-)


        Stefan

Message #23 received at 16692 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Mark Lillibridge <mdl <at> alum.mit.edu>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 16692 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: 24.2;
 nlinum version 1.2 does not work correctly with indirect buffers
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 10:49:04 -0800

Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>  >     Hit enter multiple times; observe that line numbers for the new
>  >     lines appear in the original buffer but not the indirect buffer you
>  >     are currently in.  This is a bug: line numbers should be present for
>  >     every line in both buffers.
>      
>  The core of the problem is that jit-lock relies on text-properties,
>  i.e. data shared between the indirect buffers, but is run "per buffer".
>  This can be seen also when you use two indirect buffers in different
>  major modes, where the font-lock behavior can be erratic, mixing the
>  rules of the different major modes.
>  
>  I installed a patch which prevents activation of jit-lock in indirect
>  buffers.  In practice this means that nlinum-mode should now work
>  correctly in the base buffer but will not work at all in the
>  indirect buffer.
>  IOW, problem is still present but it fails more cleanly ;-)

    Check.  Indirect buffers are horribly broken; so noted.  I will try
some of the other recommended methods of dealing with multiple edit
points in the same buffer.

- Mark

Message #28 received at 16692 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Mark Lillibridge <mdl <at> alum.mit.edu>
To: Alp Aker <alptekin.aker <at> gmail.com>
Cc: eliz <at> gnu.org, 16692 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#16692: 24.2; nlinum version 1.2 does not work correctly with
 indirect buffers
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2014 11:57:05 -0800

Alp Aker <alptekin.aker <at> gmail.com> writes:

> > Is there a good alternative for editing several places in the same
> > file at once?  E.g., a C++ header file with the class part with
> > declarations at the top and the inlined member definitions at the end of
> > the same file.  I find myself losing one of my places when I have to
> > switch to a different buffer and back again.
> 
> You might want to try setting switch-to-buffer-preserve-window-point to t.

    When did this get added to Emacs?  The web claims version 24 but I
don't see it in version 24.2 ...

- Thanks,
  Mark

Message #31 received at 16692 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: mdl <at> alum.mit.edu
Cc: alptekin.aker <at> gmail.com, 16692 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#16692: 24.2;
 nlinum version 1.2 does not work correctly with indirect buffers
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2014 22:04:01 +0200

> From: Mark Lillibridge <mdl <at> alum.mit.edu>
> Cc: eliz <at> gnu.org, 16692 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2014 11:57:05 -0800
> 
> 
> > You might want to try setting switch-to-buffer-preserve-window-point to t.
> 
>     When did this get added to Emacs?

In Emacs 24.3, according to NEWS.

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