From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:59:29 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16658: 24.3; Customizing mode-line face with themes doesn't work Resent-From: Stuart Olsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 16:51:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 16658 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 16658@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13916190527488 (code B ref -1); Wed, 05 Feb 2014 16:51:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Feb 2014 16:50:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51107 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WB5gZ-0001wg-GZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:50:52 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36739) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WAzyl-0008Io-8Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 05:45:15 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WAzyd-0003j2-Kj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 05:45:14 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:40176) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WAzyd-0003is-Id for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 05:45:07 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38422) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WAzyX-0007SF-Ag for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 05:45:07 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WAzyR-0003KU-3e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 05:45:01 -0500 Received: from echo.nixihost.com ([184.171.251.130]:51642) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WAzyQ-0003KO-Th for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 05:44:55 -0500 Received: from rrcs-71-42-218-135.sw.biz.rr.com ([71.42.218.135]:33866 helo=dakara.rr.com) by echo.nixihost.com with esmtpsa (UNKNOWN:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1WAzyO-0008GM-5k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 05:44:52 -0500 From: Stuart Olsen Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 04:44:43 -0600 Message-ID: <87zjm5et44.fsf@sj-olsen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - echo.nixihost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - sj-olsen.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: echo.nixihost.com: authenticated_id: stuart@sj-olsen.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:50:48 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Simply put, using `custom-theme-set-faces' to set the face named `mode-line' does not work. Steps to reproduce: - Start Emacs with `emacs -Q'. - Do `M-x customize-create-theme'. - Initialize the theme with basic face customizations. - Navigate to the `mode-line' face. - Deselect the `box' property. - Save the new theme -- I called it `mode-line'. - Use `M-x customize-themes' to enable the new theme. - The `mode-line' face continues to display the `box' property. The face customization does not appear to work even after reloading Emacs and the new theme. So far, the `mode-line' face is the only face with which I have had this problem. Notably, customizing the face with `M-x customize-face' and saving straight to `custom-file' works perfectly fine. Also notably, evaluating `(load-file "path/to/mode-line-theme.el")' also works. In GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.8.6) of 2013-12-22 on brahms, modified by Debian Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11405000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux testing (jessie) Configured using: `configure '--build' 'x86_64-linux-gnu' '--build' 'x86_64-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=/var/lib' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes' '--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs24:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/24.3/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/24.3/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp' '--with-crt-dir=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu' '--with-x=yes' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk3' '--with-toolkit-scroll-bars' 'build_alias=x86_64-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-g -O2 -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Werror=format-security -Wall' 'LDFLAGS=-Wl,-z,relro' 'CPPFLAGS=-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2'' Important settings: value of $LC_CTYPE: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: xterm-mouse-mode: t global-undo-tree-mode: t undo-tree-mode: t global-page-break-lines-mode: t page-break-lines-mode: t show-paren-mode: t navigate-parens-mode: t hyper-greek-mode: t minibuffer-depth-indicate-mode: t global-auto-complete-mode: t auto-complete-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: M-x s u b C-a C-k b u g M-h C-a r e p Recent messages: Loading /home/sjo/.emacs.d/charcoal-black-custom.el (source)...done Loading /home/sjo/.emacs.d/visual-settings.el (source)...done Starting Emacs daemon. Loading /home/sjo/.emacs.d/powerline.el (source)... (lambda (d) ...) quoted with ' rather than with #' (lambda (dl) ...) quoted with ' rather than with #' (lambda (mm) ...) quoted with ' rather than with #' Loading /home/sjo/.emacs.d/powerline.el (source)...done When done with this frame, type C-x 5 0 Making completion list... Load-path shadows: /usr/share/emacs/24.3/site-lisp/debian-startup hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/debian-startup ~/.emacs.d/dired-x hides /usr/share/emacs/24.3/lisp/dired-x ~/.emacs.d/term hides /usr/share/emacs/24.3/lisp/term ~/.emacs.d/flymake hides /usr/share/emacs/24.3/lisp/progmodes/flymake ~/.emacs.d/cc-mode/cc-awk hides /usr/share/emacs/24.3/lisp/progmodes/cc-awk ~/.emacs.d/cc-mode/cc-fonts hides /usr/share/emacs/24.3/lisp/progmodes/cc-fonts ~/.emacs.d/cc-mode/cc-engine hides /usr/share/emacs/24.3/lisp/progmodes/cc-engine ~/.emacs.d/cc-mode/cc-mode hides /usr/share/emacs/24.3/lisp/progmodes/cc-mode ~/.emacs.d/cc-mode/cc-menus hides /usr/share/emacs/24.3/lisp/progmodes/cc-menus ~/.emacs.d/cc-mode/cc-bytecomp hides /usr/share/emacs/24.3/lisp/progmodes/cc-bytecomp ~/.emacs.d/cc-mode/cc-langs hides /usr/share/emacs/24.3/lisp/progmodes/cc-langs ~/.emacs.d/cc-mode/cc-styles hides /usr/share/emacs/24.3/lisp/progmodes/cc-styles ~/.emacs.d/cc-mode/cc-align hides /usr/share/emacs/24.3/lisp/progmodes/cc-align ~/.emacs.d/cc-mode/cc-defs hides /usr/share/emacs/24.3/lisp/progmodes/cc-defs ~/.emacs.d/cc-mode/cc-vars hides /usr/share/emacs/24.3/lisp/progmodes/cc-vars ~/.emacs.d/cc-mode/cc-cmds hides /usr/share/emacs/24.3/lisp/progmodes/cc-cmds ~/.emacs.d/cc-mode/cc-compat hides /usr/share/emacs/24.3/lisp/progmodes/cc-compat ~/.emacs.d/cc-mode/cc-guess hides /usr/share/emacs/24.3/lisp/progmodes/cc-guess /home/sjo/.emacs.d/elpa/cl-lib-0.3/cl-lib hides /usr/share/emacs/24.3/lisp/emacs-lisp/cl-lib Features: (shadow sort flyspell ispell gnus-util mail-extr emacsbug message format-spec rfc822 mml mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils powerline server auctex-autoloads tex-site cl-lib-autoloads fill-column-indicator-autoloads geiser-autoloads git-commit-mode-autoloads magit-autoloads info unicode-fonts-autoloads ucs-utils-autoloads font-utils-autoloads persistent-soft-autoloads list-utils-autoloads pcache-autoloads finder-inf xt-mouse lilypond-mode flymake-settings flymake compile minimap undo-tree diff page-break-lines multiple-cursors mc-separate-operations rectangular-region-mode mc-mark-pop mc-mark-more mc-cycle-cursors mc-edit-lines multiple-cursors-core rect time-date paren yasnippet help-mode goto-addr thingatpt term derived disp-table ehelp electric ange-ftp comint ansi-color ring package smart-tabs-mode cc-mode cc-fonts easymenu cc-guess cc-menus cc-cmds cc-styles cc-align cc-engine cc-vars cc-defs mb-depth define-keys auto-complete-etags auto-complete-clang auto-complete-config auto-complete easy-mmode advice advice-preload popup edmacro kmacro help-fns cl-macs gv cl cl-lib slime-autoloads tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel x-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:59:29 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16658: 24.3; Customizing mode-line face with themes doesn't work Resent-From: Alex Kost Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 06:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16658 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stuart Olsen Cc: 16658@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 16658-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16658.139166963422012 (code B ref 16658); Thu, 06 Feb 2014 06:54:02 +0000 Received: (at 16658) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Feb 2014 06:53:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51999 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WBIqP-0005ix-Rl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2014 01:53:54 -0500 Received: from mail-lb0-f175.google.com ([209.85.217.175]:61127) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WBIqN-0005in-Bm for 16658@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2014 01:53:52 -0500 Received: by mail-lb0-f175.google.com with SMTP id p9so1125497lbv.34 for <16658@debbugs.gnu.org>; 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[128.70.201.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id jl8sm31845137lbc.16.2014.02.05.22.53.49 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 05 Feb 2014 22:53:49 -0800 (PST) From: Alex Kost References: <87zjm5et44.fsf@sj-olsen.com> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 10:53:52 +0400 In-Reply-To: <87zjm5et44.fsf@sj-olsen.com> (Stuart Olsen's message of "Wed, 05 Feb 2014 04:44:43 -0600") Message-ID: <877g98k9z3.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Stuart Olsen (2014-02-05 14:44 +0400) wrote: > Simply put, using `custom-theme-set-faces' to set the face named > `mode-line' does not work. Steps to reproduce: > > - Start Emacs with `emacs -Q'. > - Do `M-x customize-create-theme'. > - Initialize the theme with basic face customizations. > - Navigate to the `mode-line' face. > - Deselect the `box' property. > - Save the new theme -- I called it `mode-line'. > - Use `M-x customize-themes' to enable the new theme. > - The `mode-line' face continues to display the `box' property. > > The face customization does not appear to work even after reloading > Emacs and the new theme. So far, the `mode-line' face is the only face > with which I have had this problem. Notably, customizing the face with > `M-x customize-face' and saving straight to `custom-file' works > perfectly fine. Also notably, evaluating `(load-file > "path/to/mode-line-theme.el")' also works. That's because in 24.3.1 and earlier, default face settings were applied along with the themed ones, so you cannot see a pure theme in those versions. In your case, a standard spec with `:box' property is "enabled" as well, and as the themed spec do not specify that property, it is taken from the standard spec. To avoid that you can set `:box' property to nil (or turn it off with "Value Menu" in customization buffer). In the current trunk (and it will be in 24.4) you don't need to bother about that: if a face is themed, standard spec do not interfere. -- Alex Kost From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:59:29 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16658: 24.3; Customizing mode-line face with themes doesn't work Resent-From: Stuart Olsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 09:28:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16658 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Alex Kost Cc: 16658@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 16658-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16658.139167884813257 (code B ref 16658); Thu, 06 Feb 2014 09:28:02 +0000 Received: (at 16658) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Feb 2014 09:27:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52098 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WBLF1-0003Rk-Dg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2014 04:27:27 -0500 Received: from echo.nixihost.com ([184.171.251.130]:37100) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WBLEy-0003Rb-Sf for 16658@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2014 04:27:25 -0500 Received: from rrcs-71-42-218-135.sw.biz.rr.com ([71.42.218.135]:33691 helo=[192.168.0.101]) by echo.nixihost.com with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1WBLEx-0002gm-4p; Thu, 06 Feb 2014 04:27:23 -0500 Message-ID: <1391678829.10878.3.camel@dakara> From: Stuart Olsen Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 03:27:09 -0600 In-Reply-To: <877g98k9z3.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87zjm5et44.fsf@sj-olsen.com> <877g98k9z3.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.8.5-2+b1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - echo.nixihost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - sj-olsen.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: echo.nixihost.com: authenticated_id: stuart@sj-olsen.com X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) On Thu, 2014-02-06 at 10:53 +0400, Alex Kost wrote: > Stuart Olsen (2014-02-05 14:44 +0400) wrote: > > > Simply put, using `custom-theme-set-faces' to set the face named > > `mode-line' does not work. Steps to reproduce: > > > > - Start Emacs with `emacs -Q'. > > - Do `M-x customize-create-theme'. > > - Initialize the theme with basic face customizations. > > - Navigate to the `mode-line' face. > > - Deselect the `box' property. > > - Save the new theme -- I called it `mode-line'. > > - Use `M-x customize-themes' to enable the new theme. > > - The `mode-line' face continues to display the `box' property. > > > > The face customization does not appear to work even after reloading > > Emacs and the new theme. So far, the `mode-line' face is the only face > > with which I have had this problem. Notably, customizing the face with > > `M-x customize-face' and saving straight to `custom-file' works > > perfectly fine. Also notably, evaluating `(load-file > > "path/to/mode-line-theme.el")' also works. > > That's because in 24.3.1 and earlier, default face settings were applied > along with the themed ones, so you cannot see a pure theme in those > versions. In your case, a standard spec with `:box' property is > "enabled" as well, and as the themed spec do not specify that property, > it is taken from the standard spec. To avoid that you can set `:box' > property to nil (or turn it off with "Value Menu" in customization > buffer). > > In the current trunk (and it will be in 24.4) you don't need to bother > about that: if a face is themed, standard spec do not interfere. > > -- > Alex Kost Thanks, that seems to resolve the problem. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 06 12:28:26 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Feb 2014 17:28:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53621 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WBSkU-00020p-9Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2014 12:28:26 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:33429) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WBSkS-00020g-3J for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2014 12:28:24 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WBSkR-0003QY-Ge for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2014 12:28:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 12:28:23 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 16658 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) close 16658 24.4 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 19 02:37:53 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2014 07:37:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59422 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WG1j5-0000qN-Pw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 02:37:52 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:54047 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WG1j1-0000q2-0T for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 02:37:47 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WG1j0-0007lK-Fb for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Feb 2014 02:37:46 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 02:37:46 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 16789 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) forcemerge 16658 16789