From unknown Mon Sep 08 09:42:42 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16642: 24.3; (auth) Minor documentation inconsistency on checking order of un/encrypted .authinfo files Resent-From: Neil Jackson Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 18:22:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 16642 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 16642@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13915380917665 (code B ref -1); Tue, 04 Feb 2014 18:22:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Feb 2014 18:21:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49705 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WAkck-0001zX-Ol for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 13:21:31 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44521) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WAkci-0001zP-0r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 13:21:28 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WAkca-0002oZ-Gm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 13:21:27 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER,RECEIVED_FROM_WINDOWS_HOST autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:50156) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WAijB-0008LM-P8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 11:20:01 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45316) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WAifA-0003SN-6j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 11:20:01 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WAic5-0006ku-SY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 11:15:52 -0500 Received: from blu0-omc1-s16.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.27]:46196) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WAic5-0006ko-30 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 11:12:41 -0500 Received: from BLU0-SMTP347 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s16.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 4 Feb 2014 08:12:40 -0800 X-TMN: [Zod122DkNN3WA33PmzrbnjUxNZbkmsl5] X-Originating-Email: [neil.jackson@live.ca] Message-ID: Received: from moondust.localdomain.nodomain.none ([134.190.135.20]) by BLU0-SMTP347.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 4 Feb 2014 08:12:39 -0800 From: Neil Jackson Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 12:12:37 -0400 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2014 16:12:39.0103 (UTC) FILETIME=[ECBAACF0:01CF21C3] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Windows XP X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) The documentation is inconsistent about the order in which auth checks '~/.authinfo' and '~/.authinfo.gpg' when 'auth-sources' isn't customised. In (info "(auth)Help for Users") it says that the unencrypted file is sought first: If you don't customize 'auth-sources', you'll have to live with the defaults: the unencrypted netrc file '~/.authinfo' will be used for any host and any port. If that fails, any host and any port are looked up in the netrc file '~/.authinfo.gpg', which is a GnuPG encrypted file (*note GnuPG and EasyPG Assistant Configuration::). But in (info "(auth)GnuPG and EasyPG Assistant Configuration") it says it says that the encrypted file is sought first: If you don't customize 'auth-sources', the auth-source library reads '~/.authinfo.gpg', which is a GnuPG encrypted file. Then it will check '~/.authinfo' but it's not recommended to use such an unencrypted file. In GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.8.2) of 2013-08-14 on buildvm-15.phx2.fedoraproject.org Windowing system distributor `Fedora Project', version 11.0.11404000 System Description: Fedora release 19 (Schr=C3=B6dinger=E2=80=99s Cat) From unknown Mon Sep 08 09:42:42 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.503 (Entity 5.503) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Neil Jackson Subject: bug#16642: closed (Re: bug#16642: 24.3; (auth) Minor documentation inconsistency on checking order of un/encrypted .authinfo files) Message-ID: References: X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 16642 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 16642@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 02:09:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1391825342-29957-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1391825342-29957-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #16642: 24.3; (auth) Minor documentation inconsistency on checking order of= un/encrypted .authinfo files which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 16642@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 16642: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D16642 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1391825342-29957-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 16642-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2014 02:08:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55595 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WBxLD-0007mK-Ls for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2014 21:08:23 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:54108) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WBxLC-0007mA-31 for 16642-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2014 21:08:22 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WBxLB-0004A8-4j; Fri, 07 Feb 2014 21:08:21 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: 16642-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#16642: 24.3; (auth) Minor documentation inconsistency on checking order of un/encrypted .authinfo files References: X-Spook: AMEMB Venezuela Medco global lynch kibo pre-emptive AK-47 X-Ran: m[cE3rBQSPNj\N"`Ij?7FlkfU9%G'OJag5VXVddbc>!HZ0)w>wXpuR"t1Mw9l X-Hue: black X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 21:08:21 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Neil Jackson's message of "Tue, 4 Feb 2014 12:12:37 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 16642-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) Version: 24.4 Thanks, the first one was right. ------------=_1391825342-29957-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Feb 2014 18:21:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49705 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WAkck-0001zX-Ol for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 13:21:31 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44521) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WAkci-0001zP-0r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 13:21:28 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WAkca-0002oZ-Gm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 13:21:27 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER,RECEIVED_FROM_WINDOWS_HOST autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:50156) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WAijB-0008LM-P8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 11:20:01 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45316) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WAifA-0003SN-6j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 11:20:01 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WAic5-0006ku-SY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 11:15:52 -0500 Received: from blu0-omc1-s16.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.27]:46196) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WAic5-0006ko-30 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 11:12:41 -0500 Received: from BLU0-SMTP347 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s16.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 4 Feb 2014 08:12:40 -0800 X-TMN: [Zod122DkNN3WA33PmzrbnjUxNZbkmsl5] X-Originating-Email: [neil.jackson@live.ca] Message-ID: Received: from moondust.localdomain.nodomain.none ([134.190.135.20]) by BLU0-SMTP347.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 4 Feb 2014 08:12:39 -0800 From: Neil Jackson To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.3; (auth) Minor documentation inconsistency on checking order of un/encrypted .authinfo files Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 12:12:37 -0400 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2014 16:12:39.0103 (UTC) FILETIME=[ECBAACF0:01CF21C3] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Windows XP X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) The documentation is inconsistent about the order in which auth checks '~/.authinfo' and '~/.authinfo.gpg' when 'auth-sources' isn't customised. In (info "(auth)Help for Users") it says that the unencrypted file is sought first: If you don't customize 'auth-sources', you'll have to live with the defaults: the unencrypted netrc file '~/.authinfo' will be used for any host and any port. If that fails, any host and any port are looked up in the netrc file '~/.authinfo.gpg', which is a GnuPG encrypted file (*note GnuPG and EasyPG Assistant Configuration::). But in (info "(auth)GnuPG and EasyPG Assistant Configuration") it says it says that the encrypted file is sought first: If you don't customize 'auth-sources', the auth-source library reads '~/.authinfo.gpg', which is a GnuPG encrypted file. Then it will check '~/.authinfo' but it's not recommended to use such an unencrypted file. In GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.8.2) of 2013-08-14 on buildvm-15.phx2.fedoraproject.org Windowing system distributor `Fedora Project', version 11.0.11404000 System Description: Fedora release 19 (Schr=C3=B6dinger=E2=80=99s Cat) ------------=_1391825342-29957-1-- From unknown Mon Sep 08 09:42:42 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16642: 24.3; (auth) Minor documentation inconsistency on checking order of un/encrypted .authinfo files Resent-From: nljlistbox2@gmail.com (N. 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Jackson) Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug References: Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 21:58:11 -0400 Message-ID: <87bnyhoxn0.fsf@moondust.localdomain> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:absJafHndEnuTHf42HLdwFTsgfw= In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Fri, 07 Feb 2014 21:08:21 -0500") MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Posted-To: gnu.emacs.bug X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to gnu.emacs.bug as well. Glenn Morris writes: > Version: 24.4 > > Thanks, the first one was right. Thanks. (And I aplologise for the duplicate posting (bug#16643) -- I'm in the midst of a struggle to get email working in Emacs and, thinking I was misconfigured, I wasn't patient enough for the original report to appear.) From unknown Mon Sep 08 09:42:42 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16642: 24.3; (auth) Minor documentation inconsistency on checking order of un/encrypted .authinfo files Resent-From: Ted Zlatanov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16642 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 16642@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: rgm@gnu.org, neil.jackson@live.ca Received: via spool by 16642-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16642.13919892893531 (code B ref 16642); Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:42:02 +0000 Received: (at 16642) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2014 23:41:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32783 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCe09-0000us-BG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 18:41:29 -0500 Received: from mail-qc0-f175.google.com ([209.85.216.175]:65240) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCe05-0000uj-Tj for 16642@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 18:41:26 -0500 Received: by mail-qc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id x13so9544476qcv.34 for <16642@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 15:41:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lifelogs.com; s=google; h=from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=HAos3sLsqnGjPM07Y3CTrmTka+lmT2FI0hOYZAJYzL0=; b=p7gX/ECfNC9j9Sj/J1g8ZDKSTNvkvfGqIHzFxiWRmSgGkKQFzIkRhx/IP2yCAP8/si khRUx9ZKuxTJ08guYCjKIgPeq+gSFqrbI92FScPYbKg0wlj8Zk4UPXUVZMA62UoGT0Yb HFqP+leT3sIbugsbt8LnuZcsHu5saJZXiA314= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:organization:references :mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=HAos3sLsqnGjPM07Y3CTrmTka+lmT2FI0hOYZAJYzL0=; b=kLI0Sn0oKmqs1MAZvNUhZ/hFSqkfE9SNQylaX6aEXPPYackrWVpgZOBFX/ZNYAobix R0exzOs65mwoKCWiVAu/hf22bf17beBX+K+NiqeOqp99yhTPFgQYkWbmymQX0zmw9keY OsN7SKiEPZjiVo84UtuJmXtmN9dBTj5fXK7EEJHOC3VPIaKVnGAlaKjg65WzPlq9NT2p EMumZLmFfdg+y4nYHrkHPkPC4ruuXAMaiXj2FJXNAmu3EtuwfeIsbj3b5PLU2TbiKqVr EWyou5ueqExo5R2mLVkZrqSZQIAkyvtQIc+Ncs729RAOsGhoBHCgxTdSSoct1QNaWVkm LUWQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmGwyvgceg6mnjdqaUWjMMACqWKhz/15dJryufTXXFPJtTTfGqsB7yN6ljHIPMqdsmmD6nR X-Received: by 10.224.36.129 with SMTP id t1mr39968386qad.8.1391989285355; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 15:41:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from flea (c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net. [98.229.61.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id y71sm21138465qgd.3.2014.02.09.15.41.24 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 09 Feb 2014 15:41:24 -0800 (PST) From: Ted Zlatanov Organization: =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=A2=D0=B5=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=BE=D1=80_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=97=D0=BB=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2?= @ Cienfuegos References: X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 18:41:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Fri, 07 Feb 2014 21:08:21 -0500") Message-ID: <87ob2fam6r.fsf@lifelogs.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 21:08:21 -0500 Glenn Morris wrote: GM> Version: 24.4 GM> Thanks, the first one was right. I looked at your patch (finally, yeah). The relevant piece is at the end. I am not sure that it's an improvement to remove the explanation, even though it's certainly easier for the developers not to keep them in sync. Maybe instead of talking about order, the docstring should explain what the .gpg extension means and how to enable it, and what happens to missing files? I am not making the change immediately in case this kind of detail is not appropriate in the docstring. Thanks Ted (defcustom auth-sources '("~/.authinfo" "~/.authinfo.gpg" "~/.netrc") "List of authentication sources. - -The default will get login and password information from -\"~/.authinfo.gpg\", which you should set up with the EPA/EPG -packages to be encrypted. If that file doesn't exist, it will -try the unencrypted version \"~/.authinfo\" and the famous -\"~/.netrc\" file. - -See the auth.info manual for details. - Each entry is the authentication type with optional properties. +Entries are tried in the order in which they appear. +See Info node `(auth)Help for users' for details. 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[98.229.61.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id k1sm63211485qat.16.2014.02.12.06.30.20 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 12 Feb 2014 06:30:20 -0800 (PST) From: Ted Zlatanov Organization: =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=A2=D0=B5=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=BE=D1=80_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=97=D0=BB=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2?= @ Cienfuegos References: <87ob2fam6r.fsf@lifelogs.com> X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 09:30:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87ob2fam6r.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Sun, 09 Feb 2014 18:41:32 -0500") Message-ID: <87mwhw4d4o.fsf@lifelogs.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 18:41:32 -0500 Ted Zlatanov wrote: TZ> On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 21:08:21 -0500 Glenn Morris wrote: GM> Version: 24.4 GM> Thanks, the first one was right. TZ> I looked at your patch (finally, yeah). The relevant piece is at the TZ> end. TZ> I am not sure that it's an improvement to remove the explanation, even TZ> though it's certainly easier for the developers not to keep them in TZ> sync. TZ> Maybe instead of talking about order, the docstring should explain what TZ> the .gpg extension means and how to enable it, and what happens to TZ> missing files? TZ> I am not making the change immediately in case this kind of detail is TZ> not appropriate in the docstring. Glenn... ping? Is it OK to revise the docstring or do you want to keep it lean? Thanks Ted From unknown Mon Sep 08 09:42:42 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16642: 24.3; (auth) Minor documentation inconsistency on checking order of un/encrypted .authinfo files Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 16:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16642 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 16642@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 16642-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16642.139222349115737 (code B ref 16642); Wed, 12 Feb 2014 16:45:02 +0000 Received: (at 16642) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Feb 2014 16:44:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49154 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDcva-00045k-Mk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Feb 2014 11:44:50 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:45631 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDcvY-00045b-5C for 16642@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Feb 2014 11:44:48 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WDcvV-0006zu-O3; Wed, 12 Feb 2014 11:44:45 -0500 From: Glenn Morris References: <87ob2fam6r.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87mwhw4d4o.fsf@lifelogs.com> X-Spook: Rubin afsatcom diwn Roswell Bosnia NORAD Forte passwd X-Ran: 9V[erb|Q%TKt*T=E-bXeGXF\DwAd>L^) X-Hue: blue X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 11:44:45 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87mwhw4d4o.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Wed, 12 Feb 2014 09:30:31 -0500") Message-ID: <991tz8jn5u.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) Ted Zlatanov wrote: > Glenn... ping? Is it OK to revise the docstring or do you want to keep > it lean? It's your doc-string, so please feel free to make it say whatever you like. (I don't see the point in doc-strings saying things like "the default tries A, B, then C" is all, since it repeats information that is available by other means, and is likely to get outdated.) From unknown Mon Sep 08 09:42:42 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#16642: 24.3; (auth) Minor documentation inconsistency on checking order of un/encrypted .authinfo files Resent-From: Ted Zlatanov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:12:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16642 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: 16642@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 16642-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16642.139230068018919 (code B ref 16642); Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:12:01 +0000 Received: (at 16642) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Feb 2014 14:11:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50176 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDx0Z-0004v5-G4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 09:11:19 -0500 Received: from mail-qc0-f177.google.com ([209.85.216.177]:37636) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WDx0Y-0004uo-8G for 16642@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 09:11:18 -0500 Received: by mail-qc0-f177.google.com with SMTP id i8so17513436qcq.8 for <16642@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 06:11:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lifelogs.com; s=google; h=from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=ZqzMSijTk+sUEO7WJV7DBihpn+bUGcpamEYPCORu15o=; b=M23JBGeX8EB6hpA8Hojfl0WolhRymQTZWGoC3Xl02fZbHBuxXeH4xCEee5m7NSqwaH pJ8cHJ6U/Balmy8BnL2psTqkDAz6Bg8g1mY083MSzU2cVxXw2eHtfk6E5SewuqJMszeQ pAXG2ynsJOwU+p8DZtJpCnw6NOn9ob6W1vMj0= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:organization:references :mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=ZqzMSijTk+sUEO7WJV7DBihpn+bUGcpamEYPCORu15o=; b=CWQfI0Dd5aSTULWjFdSKDh9pmcs5EQ7Wx15L5PzQv3Lt8YC0CxAZzidsdV+NRfEXCP 8mF2YeKtdOpB+Z5oCjDP9eDQMudR8yMuzjuvsGevNQ/z6Rf2aM4fo0V/oBuLS+ZsCeKt 247wSaXT2/rGDDFUMZ14y1wfNlmC7DnNtTR+GpnN8hZIiFWOboPwkSjhtz7b6bN1uZMk Ak1dnIdFDSSD1ZHHNphDPDa05f8IotLNLOX4Pup1POep8AbFVooIfWvEd8sQD4SyuDvK /hShYg3eapcpq9GFgpkZmO48zWv4kwdKrs3Pzp7VeNanOT5WjTyopYWBhkqPoeSQIE7m A8pA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnjgptOTUKT0oh/9Tmynb3pgETkfQVix7uX0/lhDGGMBhr0ZqGlyaZ4VMHbGanlhwlZkCoY X-Received: by 10.140.108.116 with SMTP id i107mr2670009qgf.80.1392300672826; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 06:11:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from flea (c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net. [98.229.61.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id k107sm2707145qgk.5.2014.02.13.06.11.11 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 13 Feb 2014 06:11:12 -0800 (PST) From: Ted Zlatanov Organization: =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=A2=D0=B5=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=BE=D1=80_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=97=D0=BB=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=BE=D0=B2?= @ Cienfuegos References: <87ob2fam6r.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87mwhw4d4o.fsf@lifelogs.com> <991tz8jn5u.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 09:11:24 -0500 In-Reply-To: <991tz8jn5u.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed, 12 Feb 2014 11:44:45 -0500") Message-ID: <871tz7gl0z.fsf@lifelogs.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 11:44:45 -0500 Glenn Morris wrote: GM> Ted Zlatanov wrote: >> Glenn... ping? Is it OK to revise the docstring or do you want to keep >> it lean? GM> (I don't see the point in doc-strings saying things like "the default GM> tries A, B, then C" is all, since it repeats information that is GM> available by other means, and is likely to get outdated.) OK, I'll just mention the extension as I suggested. Thanks Ted